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  •  Tip Jar (5+ / 0-)

    Editor, Daily Kos Elections

    by James L on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:49:17 PM PDT

  •  Is there a one-stop site to find out who's (0+ / 0-)

    running in what primaries and in what states this week? It seems I get pieces here and there. Thank you!

    "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

    by Leslie Salzillo on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 03:50:34 AM PDT

  •  On Steve Cornacki Cutler is being rather stubborn (11+ / 0-)

    and obtuse. Refusing to stop his helping LePage get reelected, spoting typical politician "I'll win because" yadda, yadda, yadda. Attacking Michaud. A rather unimpressive performance. He tries to both say he's an outsider and also more experienced.

  •  any news on GA-sen? (1+ / 0-)
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    it feels like nothing has happened, almost like perdue gave up.

    NH-01. First time living in NH, waiting for the candidates to start a courting.

    by DougTuttle on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 06:37:08 AM PDT

  •  Open thread question (4+ / 0-)
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    Trosk, MichaelNY, mayim, gabjoh

    Which politicians from your state can you see as a presidential contender in 15-20 years? Congressmen, State Senators and Representatives, statewide officeholders, countywide officeholders, dog catchers, prominent businesspeople, activists...

    19/Sweden/Wonk. Prefers discussing opinions to having them. Learning by doing.

    by Tayya on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 08:32:12 AM PDT

    •  Maybe one of the Castro brothers (3+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY, mayim, Christopher Walker

      With some experience in Congress, they could be quite a force. With some luck, maybe Texas will be more competitive in 2018 and one of them can try their luck against Crazy Cruz.

      •  Texas (3+ / 0-)
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        LordMike, MichaelNY, JacobNC

        Realistically, though, I think there's about a 10X greater chance that George P. Bush ends up on a national ticket than either of the Castros: he's already about to be elected to statewide office, and he's both a Bush and hispanic, which ought to give the Republican establishment all sorts of wet dreams.

        Meanwhile, I doubt Texas will elect any Dems to statewide office until the '20s (through a strong challenge to Cruz in '18 would certainly be worth the effort).

        •  I disagree on one point (2+ / 0-)
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          I doubt there will ever again be a Bush on a national ticket. The name has been so thoroughly damaged as to be rendered totally useless to their efforts. It doesn't unite the conservative wing because the Tea Party remembers Bush as a big spender. It doesn't unite the "sane" wing because sane people realize that the Bush name alone is worth several percentage points to whatever Democrat is running.

          It just won't happen, ever.

          •  Jeb is being talked up by the establishment (4+ / 0-)

            even now. W.'s approval rating has already recovered into positive territory, I believe. At any rate by, say, 2024, we will be nearly a generation removed from W.'s administration, and George P. would have shaped his own political identity. Are you really so certain he wouldn't be able to overcome the Bush moniker at that point?

            •  Yes, quite (2+ / 0-)
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              MichaelNY, TofG

              It'd be like if Jason Carter ran for president. Only reason why he's viable in GA is because GA has always loved the shit out of Carter. I think Carter won every county in GA in '76, and all but four or five in '80. But he'll never be national candidate material.

            •  A generation from Dubya won't restore the name (2+ / 0-)
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              It's not like people a decade or more from now won't still know he was the dipshit that created the worst recession since the Great Depression, was President when 9/11 happened and got us involved in two disastrous wars.  

              •  No, No (2+ / 0-)
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                The recession was caused by the race-pandering CRA, and made worse and prolonged by the food stamp president and his bailout giveaways to union thugs and Solyndra.  Bush protected our Freedoms from Islamic communist oppression by fighting them over there instead of here.

                snark, but nothing is so ridiculous they aren't already saying it.  

                People are still trying to blame the Depression on  FDR and socialist entitlements.

                Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

                by benamery21 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 07:59:49 PM PDT

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                •  I have a funny feeling (4+ / 0-)

                  That decades from now Dubya will be looked upon as a complete and utter failure, near the bottom of the rankings of historical Presidents.  

                  On the other hand I have a strong suspicion Obama will rank quite highly historically as far as Presidents go.  The first President to embrace gay rights, reversing Bill Clinton and Dubya's complete failures on the issue, and the first President to get through major healthcare reform for all people.

                  I know there are a lot of right-wing revisionists out there, but FDR still ranks among the greatest Presidents of all-time in spite of their re-writing of history.

                  •  History books will help with that. (1+ / 0-)
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                    MichaelNY

                    You can't really hide the incompetence or not make it so people can't connect the dots.

                    “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

                    by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:48:11 PM PDT

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                    •  You can write your own history books (1+ / 0-)
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                      MichaelNY

                      And fool some of the people.  Especially if they want to be fooled.  More especially if you own the press and the textbook companies and the school boards.

                      Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

                      by benamery21 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 11:04:52 PM PDT

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                  •  I wouldn't say Clinton was a failure (3+ / 0-)
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                    ChadmanFL, anshmishra, pademocrat

                    on gay rights. In retrospect, DADT was a horrible, discriminatory policy. But if you think about it, gay marriage probably polled in the teens at the time, and that came from a deep-seated hatred that just wasn't going away for a while.

                    I think Obama will be in the top ten, but not the top five. He's just.. not that great. Having six years of his presidency taken up by an intransigent Republican House does bad things to one's popularity. And the existence of the Republican House in the first place is at least half his fault.

                    And I doubt Bush will be near the bottom. Definitely in the bottom half, probably even the bottom quarter, but the man did several truly good things like the African AIDS initiative, a lot of stuff on race relations with Hispanics, and Medicare Part D was a damn fine idea (despite the rather awful motivation behind it and its terrible implementation).

                    •  The military fought like heck against such reform (1+ / 0-)
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                      MichaelNY

                      at the time, I bet DADT was considered reformative and progressive.

                      “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

                      by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:58:02 PM PDT

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                    •  That's my thinking (4+ / 0-)

                      Doubt Obama ever makes top-5 lists of greatest Presidents, but I think by the later years of my life we'll see him on many top-10 lists.  My feeling is that Obama will be seen as something of a transformational President.  Basically a bridge between the conservative politics that dominated the Reagan-Dubya era for 35 years or so years and the coming, more progressive society that seems inevitable to follow given demographic/generational trends.  People will probably look back at Obama and realize he did as much as he could to further progressive causes during his Presidency.

                    •  You are right about Part D too IMO (2+ / 0-)
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                      It's one of the few things I somewhat liked about the Bush Presidency.  Ya, I know a lot of it was a giveaway to big pharma.  But at the end of the day it was a nice start, which can be improved upon as far as giving seniors RX coverage goes.  Can you imagine if a republican President post-2010 tried to push an expansion of Medicare like Bush did?  Republican heads would explode if that happened today.

                  •  If Obama's steps on global warming (3+ / 0-)

                    lead to a real mitigation of the problem, that will be seen as a crucial turning point in 100 years. We can only hope.

                    Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

                    by MichaelNY on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 10:00:38 PM PDT

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                  •  I hope so, but (1+ / 0-)
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                    MichaelNY

                    Reagan was gawd-awful in many ways.

                    Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

                    by benamery21 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 11:10:33 PM PDT

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                  •  Obama is going to get hit hard (0+ / 0-)

                    The narrative years from now will be that the achievements  in Gay Rights were inevitable regardless of who was President. It may well not be true, but to suggest otherwise will be seen as diminishing the "movement" and it will be a useful line for everyone including Republicans to embrace after the fact.

                    Healthcare is going to be mixed because I suspect that the eventual final plan will be a doled-up version of Obamacare once people realize that all of its problems have been due to it not being extensive enough and the bureaucracy created thereof.

                    That will leave Obama with the Foreign Policy where I suspect he will come in for a severe thrashing. It is one field where Presidents are generally blamed for bad things that happen on their watch, and the whole thing is looking fairly dreadful right now. Obama's first team achievements - getting out of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, are going to be swallowed by the disasters that will follow in the wake of American withdrawal, leaving him with very little.

                    •  first paragraph: really? (3+ / 0-)

                      no one would suggest that the civil rights movement would have proceeded at the same pace that it did if Barry Goldwater had been elected president.

                      Living in Kyoto-06 (Japan), voting in RI-01, went to college in IL-01.

                      by sapelcovits on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 01:30:17 AM PDT

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                      •  Furthermore, people don't remember (2+ / 0-)

                        landmark social welfare bills like Social Security and Medicare for how fucked up they were in the beginning, but as landmark social welfare bills that have stood the test of time. Regardless of how - we hope - the Affordable Care Act is improved over time, it will stand as a landmark - the first time since it was proposed 100 years ago by Teddy Roosevelt that a president was able to get a comprehensive national health insurance bill through Congress.

                        As for foreign policy, it's too soon to tell, but I don't think that the implosion of Iraq is easy to blame on Obama. He had to withdraw the troops for various reasons, but anyone who seriously believes that the presence of US troops would have prevented the current civil war is kidding themselves.

                        Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

                        by MichaelNY on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 02:17:10 AM PDT

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          •  Jeb Bush will never be on a national ticket (0+ / 0-)

            for the reasons you stated, but George P Bush is unclear.  But I doubt he gets elected Governor or Senator in Texas anyway.

    •  New Jersey has a few The most likely right now ... (7+ / 0-)

      New Jersey has a few

      The most likely right now is Steve Fulop, the Mayor of Jersey City and likely the next Governor.

      Cory Booker is obviously much less than 15 years from a run.

      Raj Mukherji, an Assemblyman from Jersey City, also stands out. He's only 29, but is a veteran, entrepreneur, and former Deputy Mayor. We'll have to see how his first elected tenure goes, of course.

      NJ is a tough state to move up in, so I'm weary of mentioning more local politicians or activists.

      I honestly can't think of a single Republican, mostly because I can't see anyone taking that intermediate step to Senator / Governor in a blue state trending bluer.

      Great question!

      •  I am also impressed by Asm. Lou Greenwald (4+ / 0-)
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        MichaelNY, Trosk, mayim, ehstronghold

        and not just because he used to be my Assemblyman back when I lived in Camden County.  He spoke to my Dem club some months ago and he impressed us with his know-how on the property tax problem and how to fix it (one way being a local option for communities to institute other taxes to alleviate property taxes).  He also talked about how he worked with McGreevey to fix the car insurance issues that plagued the 90s.  When he left, we were all atwitter with how much we were impressed.  Kind of the opposite of when we met Booker.

        “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

        by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 10:35:50 AM PDT

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        •  He also reveres public service (4+ / 0-)
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          MichaelNY, Trosk, mayim, ehstronghold

          and learned a lot from his late mother, an extremely popular ex-Mayor of Cherry Hill.

          “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

          by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 10:36:58 AM PDT

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        •  Lou seems to be stuck in place. He probably get... (2+ / 0-)
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          KingofSpades, MichaelNY

          Lou seems to be stuck in place. He probably gets the Semate seat when Beach retires, but I think he missed his real opportunity when Norcross was annoited the Congressional seat. Even though he's still young, I have a hard time seeing him rise to become Gov or Senator, let alone President.

          Paul Sarlo is a bit more likely in my opinion, as someone who sort of fits Greenwald's mold.

          •  Fulop is the CW for our next standard-bearer (1+ / 0-)
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            MichaelNY

            I haven't heard his speaking yet, but everyone loves him.

            He also represents a very, very diverse city.  It's roughly evenly divided between Caucasians, African-Americans, Latinos, and Asians.

            “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

            by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:52:30 PM PDT

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    •  Nobody (0+ / 0-)

      because Oregon will not produce a nominee or vp nominee in the near future.

      We no longer ask if a man has integrity, but if he has talent. - Rousseau, Discourse on the arts and sciences

      by James Allen on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:24:28 AM PDT

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    •  maybe Raul Ruiz (2+ / 0-)
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      lordpet8, ChadmanFL

      He's young and has already shown some crossover appeal. I don't any Republican from CA being nominated, because the governor and senator positions will probably still be out of reach for them for the next 10-15 years.

      SSP poster. 44, CA-6, -0.25/-3.90

      by sacman701 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 10:06:38 AM PDT

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    •  From Massachusetts (3+ / 0-)

      A really obvious answer is Joe Kennedy III. Both of our current senators, Warren and Markey, are rather old despite being in their first term (they're currently 65 and 67, respectively). It's almost certain that Kennedy will have an open senatorial seat to run for sometime in the next two decades, and he would pretty much be a lock, both because of his surname and the fact that he has actually tried to be a good representative and not just coast on his surname. I don't see any other members of our congressional delegation going for higher office (no, Warren is not running for president).

      •  What do you see in Governor Deval Patrick's (0+ / 0-)

        future?

        Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

        by MichaelNY on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 12:24:09 PM PDT

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        •  I think he is done with electoral politics (5+ / 0-)

          Here's one little-noticed thing about Deval Patrick. Throughout much of his first term, his approval ratings were terrible because he faced a budget crisis and had to raise taxes. In January 2010, PPP found him with a 22% approval rating, but he won reelection because it is, after all, Massachusetts and he wasn't as bad as senate candidate Coakley. Then, after he won reelection, his approval ratings started to rise for reasons I've never really understood. A June 2011 PPP poll found that Patrick had a 54% approval rating, and ever since then, pretty much every poll has showed his approval hovering somewhere above 50%, so not wildly popular, but certainly acceptable.

          Patrick could have easily run for reelection this year (Massachusetts does not have gubernatorial term limits) and cruised to victory. That he chose not to indicates to me that he wants to be done with electoral politics and go out on a high note. His wife, Diane, has had some mental health problems like depression, which really manifested during his first term in office. Patrick has said he wants to go back into the private sector, and I see no reason to doubt him on that. Of course, he might show up for various elder-statesman things, but he's almost certainly not going to run for president or do anything else really high-profile.

    •  Virginian here (1+ / 0-)
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      I think the Congressional gerrymander here makes our House Reps a no-go. If we're lucky then Mark Herring will have a meteoric rise over the next couple of decades but he's already 52.

      Both Tim Kaine and Mark Warner could be decent bets to run for the big job but it'll be sooner than 15 years. Kaine is 56 and Warner is 59. Either one of them could make a run in 2016.

      •  Mark Herring is expected to run for governor (1+ / 0-)
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        MichaelNY

        in 2017. I doubt he eventually makes his way to the presidency, though. Mark Warner has frequently been mentioned as a vice presidential pick; I don't think he's a good pick for Hillary in 2016 because it unnecessarily risks a senate seat, but it's possible.

        •  We hope Herring for 2017 (3+ / 0-)
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          It isn't clear yet because it's obviously still early. Northam would be a non-starter for Virginia Democrats so we really need Herring or else we're going to have to settle for a weaker candidate.

          I think Warner or Kaine would be great VP picks (but particularly Warner) because they would really help lock down Virginia's electoral votes. That could be particularly useful if for whatever reason Clinton doesn't run.

          •  Would Northam be better staying on as LG (0+ / 0-)

            and hopefully swing the Senate back to Dems if they pick up a seat in 2015 (namely Sen. Watkins' seat)?

            “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

            by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 05:56:22 PM PDT

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      •  ...welcome... (0+ / 0-)
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        by paradise50 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 04:15:30 PM PDT

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    •  I guess Anthony Foxx would be the most formidable (1+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY

      He is younger (43), and will have lots of executive experience (mayor of a large city and cabinet secretary).  But if he wants a future in national politics he should run for Senate against Burr in 2016, rather than going into the private sector and losing relevance.

      I suppose if Roy Cooper wins in 2016 and serves two terms successfully, he could also be considered for national office.  I don't think Kay Hagan could be - she just doesn't seem like a great politician.

    •  Hassan or Kuster (1+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY

      for the dems, Ayotte for the gop

      NH-01. First time living in NH, waiting for the candidates to start a courting.

      by DougTuttle on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 04:52:15 PM PDT

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    •  California (1+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY

      AG Kamala Harris I guess. None of the top Dem statewide officeholders are particularly inspiring.

      •  John Chiang is pretty good (2+ / 0-)
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        ehstronghold, MichaelNY

        He's unusual among California's Democrats in that he has a strong base of support near Sacramento, including suburbs and rural areas, because they have a lot of government workers. Maybe he'll try for the senate seat in 2016 if Boxer retires, or in 2018 when Feinstein is probably going to retire (she'll be 85).

        •  Yeah, Chiang (0+ / 0-)

          Chiang gets major Republican (read: conservative) support. The offices he's run for are more or less apolitical, so we'd have to see 1) how'd he fare in a primary against another Dem, and 2) what his depth of support would be in a senate or gubernatorial race. He's prob a better fit for governor, but Newsom has that locked down for 2018. I'd like to think Harris has the upper hand if Feinstein retires in 2018. I don't get the impression Boxer is retiring in 2016.

          •  I doubt Chiang has high name recognition statewide (1+ / 0-)
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            lordpet8

            just that the state workers and retired ones around Sacramento know he signs their checks and pension checks. I really don't like this meme that somehow he has some mass appeal just because he outruns other Democrats in these collar counties around Sacramento by thousands of votes. These counties offer relatively few votes compared to the counties that provide the bulk of Democratic victories in California. He ran as a incumbent in a relatively non-partisan office in 2010 against the same opponent he beat, barely breaking 50% statewide in 2006. He underperformed in 2010 vs.  the last incumbent controller to run for reelection (1998) almost everywhere.  Kathleen Connell won   Orange/Riverside/Ventura/Placer/Madera/King/Siskiyou/Tehama while Chiang and most Democrats lost these counties.

            •  Judging a Democrat (6+ / 0-)

              harshly because they did worse in 2010 than a Democrat did in 1998 is ridiculous.  2010 was not 1998, for all sorts of reasons.

              21, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
              politicohen.com
              Idiosyncratic, pro-establishment. Liberal, not progressive. For the poor, the children, the planet, and the rule of law.
              UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city.

              by jncca on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 07:38:56 PM PDT

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              •  All I am saying that Chiang's preceived strength (0+ / 0-)

                could be likely due to his mostly non-partisan office. People on here talk sometimes about his strength in these collar counties around Sacramento i.e. getting 2k more votes in some counties over Jerry Brown as some kind of indication that he will do well in a more partisan race statewide. Like he has some kind of mystical sway over Republican voters. Fine,  that is to be determined. I say it is more a function of his office than any perceived personal strengths.  In 1998, Connell won typically Republican areas in her reelection. She was very strong against a Hispanic Republican challenger who wasn't well known. She  also received over 1.3 million votes in LA county for her reelection which was more than Boxer or the candidate for governor then.  She then decided to run for LA mayor (non-partisan primary) and received only 24k votes and came in 6th place.

    •  no one honestly (0+ / 0-)

      Braley seems like a three term senator to me and not someone who would want to run for president

      The time has passed for Branstad and Grassley

      None of the representatives (King, Loebsack) are ones I see moving up to the governorship or senate (which are launching pads for the WH).

      idiosyncratic, slightly anarchist, darwinist, moral relativist, fan of satire

      by bonzo925 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 07:20:35 PM PDT

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    •  From Wisconsin (2+ / 0-)
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      fearlessfred14, MichaelNY

      Besides the talk around Scott Walker, I can say on the Republican side maybe Sean Duffy given that he is still quite young.

      On the Dem side, I might say Senate Minority Leader Chris Larson.  I do not know if he could win anything statewide, but he is certain ambitious.  He is only 34 and won his seat 4 years ago by primarying an incumbent and then ascended to Minority Leader only two years after that.  I can see him having the kind of drive and ego needed to run for President, and I say that in a good way.

      Social Democrat, WI-05

      by glame on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 07:36:36 PM PDT

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    •  from Indiana (1+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY

      For the Dems, I think Pete Buttegieg is our best bet. Harvard grad, Phi Beta Kappa,  Rhodes Scholar, 2010 Treasurer nominee and since 2012 has been the Mayor of South Bend.

      Republicans, I think I fear Luke Messer and Susan Brooks the most.

      26, Practical Progressive Democratic Socialist (-9.38, -8.51), Gay, IN-02 - Defeat Wacky Jackie!

      by HoosierD42 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 07:43:31 PM PDT

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    •  Colorado here (2+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY, The Caped Composer

      There's off and on talk about Hickenlooper, or even Ken Salazar.  I don't see it, and personally I'd prefer to not see them on a national ticket.  Jared Polis is clearly trying to work his way up in House leadership, and may have a chance of being speaker one day, but that's it.

      As for my home state of Hawaii, there's quite a few fans of Tulsi Gabbard (myself included).  She probably will be Senator or Governor one day, but I don't see anyone from Hawaii making it nationally (after Obama of course).

      •  I think if there's ever to be a president from HI (0+ / 0-)

        and not just born there like Obama was, but someone involved in Hawaii politics, it would have to come through a Sarah Palin-like VP selection. Of course, the person would have to acquit himself much better than Palin did. There are just so many problems, including sheer logistical ones, against a Hawaii politician raising his profile nationwide on his own terms.

  •  Rep. Jared Polis and husband adopt a baby girl: (9+ / 0-)

    coloradopols.com/diary/60164/congratulations-again-to-rep-jared-polis

    D'aww.  Also didn't know Polis founded proflowers.com

    “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

    by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 10:30:02 AM PDT

  •  CO-Gov: Beauprez still entertaining conspiracies: (1+ / 0-)
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    MichaelNY

    “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

    by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 10:31:40 AM PDT

  •  Passings: RIP Alan Dixon (D-IL) (12+ / 0-)

    The former Senator was 86. Now both IL Senators at the time of my birth in Chicago have passed (Paul Simon being the other): http://www.chicagotribune.com/...

    •  Sorry he died (2+ / 0-)
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      MichaelNY, Paleo

      but I will never forgive him for voting for Clarence Thomas.

      •  Yeah (3+ / 0-)
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        MichaelNY, USA629, KingofSpades

        That vote was a major black mark on his legacy, and also gave us Carol Moseley-Braun. Don't know if I can forgive him for either.

        •  The Democrats handled that hearing horribly (3+ / 0-)
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          Joe Biden should have called in that second witness to testify to Thomas' sexual harassment.  

          That itself would have moved the vote to November (Thomas was confirmed in mid-October).  Democrat Harris Wofford (who trailed by 40% initially to very popular ex-Governor and Attorney General Richard Thornburg) pulled of a 10% upset in the Pennsylvania special election in early November.  

          I'm very sure that had the Thomas vote been taken after that, he would have been rejected.  GHWB then would have been boxed in picking a new nominee.

          •  I wonder though (1+ / 0-)
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            how was Souter presented?  Did he come off as conservative and later changed or was he a blank slate from the start?

            “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

            by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:45:48 PM PDT

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            •  Was he like Stevens (0+ / 0-)

              and used to be conservative, but shifted?

              “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

              by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:49:42 PM PDT

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            •  Souter was supposed to be a hardcore conservative (5+ / 0-)

              Souter was suggested to John Sununu by a fellow New Hampshire resident, Senator Warren Rudman. Bush decided to pick Souter because Souter had a very thin record that was pretty much devoid of controversy, because Bush didn't want another Robert Bork situation. But organizations like the NAACP and NOW opposed Souter pretty vigorously. In the end, Souter was confirmed 90-9; among the 9 negative votes were Kennedy and Kerry. Souter voted fairly conservatively in the first few years of his tenure, but became more liberal as the decade went on, and was generally recognized as part of the liberal wing by 2000.

              While discussing Rudman, Sununu would later say that "[Rudman] was more liberal than he liked the world to think he was."

              •  Sort of (3+ / 0-)
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                There was warnings from hard right types Reagan administration officials about Souter's moderation (they thought he would end up being like O'Connor or Kennedy, not an outright liberal).

                But in reality, Souter shifted the same way his state shifted.  New Hampshire was a fairly conservative and heavily red state until the 1990s, when they finally realized that the Southern flavored socially conservative party was no longer in line with their values.  I think when Souter saw how far right Scalia and Thomas really were, he shifted left.

                Ted Kennedy later called his rhetoric and vote against Souter one of the greatest regrets of his Senate career.

            •  Souter seemed to me a "stealth right-winger" (1+ / 0-)
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              I turned out to be very wrong about him.

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              by MichaelNY on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 10:03:40 PM PDT

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        •  Also Thomas was confirmed only by 52-48 (2+ / 0-)
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          Three Ds would have changed the vote.

          •  Yes, it's a shame it couldn't be stopped (1+ / 0-)
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            Liberal Dems should have at least started a silent filibuster (which existed then) on the grounds that Thomas' history of sexual harassment made him unfit to serve.

            Heck, Dems had the majority.  It ought to have been blocked in committee.  Or maybe Ted Kennedy could have done the Robert Bork thing again and made it clear why Thomas was too extreme to serve as a distinguished justice.

            “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

            by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:43:44 PM PDT

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            •  The vote in committee was tied 7-7 (3+ / 0-)
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              with Senator Dennis DeConcini being the lone Democrat to vote for him.  Even conservative Alabama Democrat Howell Heflin (who would make Joe Manchin seem like liberal in comparison) voted against, as he considered Thomas completely unqualified.  But a tie vote means that the nomination is advanced.  But a liberal filibuster (on the basis that other witnesses needed to be heard) would have been sufficient to delay the confirmation hearing, and the Harris Wofford victory in PA would have killed it.

              One also has to remember that the committee vote was taken before the sexual harassment came out.  Thomas was considered to be a cinch for confirmation until that.  It was after that came out that a second hearing was held to explore this matter.  

              Ted Kennedy was weakened for this hearing due to his behavior in Florida.  He was caught drinking with his nephew (?) William Kennedy Smith in Florida on the night the latter was charged with rape.  I think Kennedy (for good reason) was quite concerned with his own sexual history (including Chappaqudick) being made a major story if he took the lead on this.

               

        •  Also gave us Feinstein and Boxer. (0+ / 0-)

          It was an inspiration for the two to run in '92.

          “The universe is big. It’s vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, impossible things just happen and we call them miracles.” -The Doctor

          by KingofSpades on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:45:04 PM PDT

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  •  alternative newspapers put together a list of the (4+ / 0-)

    worst politicians in the country, categorizing them as hatemongers, sleazeballs, blowhards, horn dogs, and a couple "users and boozers".

    I'm surprised that Gavin Newsom didn't make the sleazeball category, but a couple locals here made the Blowhard one: Art Robinson and Clackamas County Chair John Ludlow.

    We no longer ask if a man has integrity, but if he has talent. - Rousseau, Discourse on the arts and sciences

    by James Allen on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 11:40:44 AM PDT

  •  Democratic Mayors list? (1+ / 0-)
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    Hey guys,

    Long time reader, first time commenter here. I was wondering if anyone knew if there is a list of democratic mayors anywhere. I've done a brief web search but I can't seem to find one (even on the ncdm website).

  •  just perusing presidential approvals and noted (8+ / 0-)

    Obama's "low point" in Gallup was 38% approval. That was in 2011.

    To compare, in late June 2006 George W. Bush was at 37% approval, in early July he was at 40%. Obama is currently in the low 40s. Bush's 2nd term average was actually 37%, lower than Obama's lowest point, and Bush's lowest point was a measly 25%.

    We no longer ask if a man has integrity, but if he has talent. - Rousseau, Discourse on the arts and sciences

    by James Allen on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 01:18:47 PM PDT

  •  WI-AG: Jon Richards to go to the airwaves (1+ / 0-)
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    Although his campaign hasn't announced exactly when he'll run one or TV ads at this time, it will be sometime before the August 12 Democratic primary against Susan Happ and Ismael Ozanne. My guess is that Richards is going to be on the airwaves the final 1 or 2 weeks of the primary campaign.

    Additionally, fundraising reports for the first half of 2014 for Wisconsin campaigns are due to be released this month.

  •  carol shea porter (2+ / 0-)
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    hasn't opened an office in Manchester yet and  it's the biggest city in her district and the state. is this worrisome?

    NH-01. First time living in NH, waiting for the candidates to start a courting.

    by DougTuttle on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 04:54:38 PM PDT

  •  CA-Controller (3+ / 0-)
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    Recount time!

    Former Assembly speaker John Pérez (D-Los Angeles) has decided to request, and pay for, a recount of votes in as many as 15 California counties — an effort to see whether he came in third on June 3 behind fellow Democrat Betty Yee… or not.

    [...] Pérez’s decision means that beginning on Monday, local elections officials will take another look at ballots in Kern; Imperial; San Bernardino; Fresno; San Mateo; Orange; Ventura; Los Angeles; Riverside; Stanislaus; Tulare; Napa; Kings; Lake; and Merced counties.

    http://blogs.kqed.org/...

    Under California law a candidate can ask for a partial recount and that is what Perez has done here. He's picked his best 15 counties for the recount. Also pay attention to the order of the counties listed because the recount will start with Kern county and end with Merced county.

    I'm thinking this race will be settled late August/early September assuming Yee decides to follow suit and both candidates go to court.

    The Republican party is now an extreme right-wing party that is owned by their billionaire campaign contributors. - Bernie Sanders

    by ehstronghold on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 05:12:15 PM PDT

  •  MI Independence Day Politics (4+ / 0-)
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    Any politician worth their salt uses this extended Fourth of July weekend to kiss as many babies, shake as many hands, and attend as many parades as he or she can, and Michigan was no exception.

    It was something of a tag team.  Gubernatorial candidate Mark Schauer staked out the eastside of the state hitting up mostly Metro Detroit (Wyandotte, Plymouth, and Clarkston), but also went up I-75 to attend events in Bay City in the Thumb.  Senate candidate Gary Peters, on the other hand, hit up West Michigan staying around the Grand Rapids suburbs where he campaign with junior Senator Debbie Stabenow.

    I really need to begin to track the movements of the Republican candidates, but from little of what I can tell from the media's interest, it seems that they are likely campaigning less, or less conventionally, anyway.  All the energy, anyway, seems to be on the Dem side of things, which is what you expect from a virgorous challenge with an incumbent deciding to try and hold ground.

    Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos.

    by MetroGnome on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 06:21:25 PM PDT

    •  Is the Nerd really than endangered? (1+ / 0-)
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      Peters is going to win, but is the Nerd really going to lose?

      •  Hard to say (2+ / 0-)
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        I think he's going to have a tough road to re-election, tougher than any of the other midwest governors. The unpopularity of the GOP in general in the state, and his utter failures of leadership this year could really hurt him. But we're still months out and who knows what can happen? If, however, the most recent PPP poll is accurate, then I think it is very likely Schauer wins.

      •  PPP says he might. (1+ / 0-)
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        We no longer ask if a man has integrity, but if he has talent. - Rousseau, Discourse on the arts and sciences

        by James Allen on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 07:56:55 PM PDT

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      •  Yes (4+ / 0-)
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        Having a Democratic governor during the Great Recession (and Michigan's "One-State Recession" which preceded it and and melded into it) is what really killed Democrat's chances in 2010, along with Michigan just generally trading out parties in governorships.  

        People have really wanted to give Snyder the benefit of the doubt because of the Granholm years; they have really wanted to believe Snyder was the moderate he sold himself as.  But I think voters are finally beginning to say enough is enough.  The problem is that Snyder has governed little different frorm a tea party governor, and the Michigan electorate simply isn't as far right on social issues as Snyder and the legislature have governed.  

        That said, as long as he was getting stuff done, there were independents willing to stick with him and tolerate some of the less-than-savory social policy of the administration and legislature.  I think what finally made this a close race, however, was not just his ideology, but his incompetence, and on this I'm talking specifically about the road funding fix he's been pushing for two years and failed to get through this cycle before the summer recess.  This has become the single biggest issue among the electorate, and that something this important couldn't be resolved has sent Michiganders into a rage.  

        Snyder has very little clout with any one particular legislation faction.  Nobody fears him.  What's he's accomplished, thus far, has largely been because he wanted what the legislature already wanted.  On some things - RTW, for insance - the tea party legislature actually steamrolled him and led the way.  Michiganders aren't going to tolerate this political weakness and incompetence from the governor.  The "One Tough Nerd" has shown himself again and again to be "One Weak Geek."

        Rick's road to re-election has gotten extremely narrow.  In fact, I think after the recent PPP showing his job approval in the crapper he has about one road left to take: He has to absolutely destroy Schauer.  Because, I don't think there is any issue left on which he brings his favorables up to a level at which he can continue to largely ignore Schauer.  The only way he wins is making Schauer as unpopular as he is.  I think Snyder could get a tiny bounce if he gets the road deal done when the legislature comes back into session, but it won't be nearly the bounce to save him.  And, if he isn't able to get the road deal even when the legislature's back in session, he's through.  Period.

        Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos.

        by MetroGnome on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 08:40:29 PM PDT

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      •  I'd call it Tilts R at this point (4+ / 0-)
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        Snyder seems to have an edge, but only a slight one.

        •  I would be genuinely surprised if Snyder lost (1+ / 0-)
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          I would be surprised if Snyder lost. As MetroGnome mentioned, Snyder represents a general trading of the governor's mansion by the parties + a wholesale reaction against the Granholm years + reaction against economic environment and party in the White House. I would be genuinely surprised if he loses. I know the roads are bad (I grew up in Detroit). Maybe they are that bad. I would agree with you that Snyder has no "faction." He kinda came out of nowhere.

          •  I wouldn't be (1+ / 0-)
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            These have been wacky political and economic times in America, in general, and even more in Michigan.  I won't be surprised if Snyder wins, but I think he's in an even tougher re-election campaign than Granholm was early on.  It's going to take a lot for him to win.  I think he's up to the task, on paper, but that same sheet of paper shows he's going to have an upward climb in a state that leans the way that it does with a state GOP party as unpopular as it is.  He's tried mightly to seperate his image from that of the party's, but people are beginning to link the two.

            Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos.

            by MetroGnome on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 12:08:16 AM PDT

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            •  What were opinion polls showing for Granholm (0+ / 0-)

              at an equivalent time in the campaign?

              Formerly Pan on Swing State Project

              by MichaelNY on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 12:35:17 AM PDT

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              •  March to August (1+ / 0-)
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                From about late-March to early August, DeVos was actually leading (or tied with) Granholm in most polls.  In even the few polls she was leading, it was usually a narrow lead.  People were really thinking she was going to lose, and quite frankly, I was surprised when she began to pull away in August.  She ended up thumping him by a full 14% points; it was a thing of beauty.

                The thing, here, though, is that Snyder has a lot less room to grow being a Republican in a blue(ish) state.  Snyder is going to have to run the boards with independents, while Granholm just needed some of them (and she got more than I'm sure even she thought she would) since there are already more Dems than Republicans in the state.  He's going to have to do something drastic like come out for marriage equality or have the state economy improve even faster than it already is to convince Indies that he's worth it, again.  That's been one of the stories of this whole race, in fact.  That the economy has been getting better for years in Michigan - with Michigan placing rather high in growth during the recovery, even - and yet he's not benefitting from it in any real way.

                Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos.

                by MetroGnome on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 06:24:05 AM PDT

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  •  Anyone else hooked on John Oliver's HBO show? (0+ / 0-)

    I'll admit I was skeptical when I saw the previews for Last Week Tonight with John Oliver on HBO.  It sounded like just another show covering material The Daily Show and Colbert already had covered.  But this show has turned out to be a real gem.  It definitely covers the badly overlooked stories and contains some very memorable scenes every show.

    •  The Stephen Hawking episode was the best (0+ / 0-)

      The interview is awesome.

    •  I like another new HBO show (0+ / 0-)

      The Leftovers which has nothing to do with politics.  It's very Lost-esque (and I know some people will hate it for that reason) which is not surprising since Damon Lindelof is a writer/producer.

      I'll check out Oliver's show.  I saw the first episode and thought it seemed like a Daily Show ripoff but I'll have to give it another shot.

    •  He's too preachy for me. (0+ / 0-)

      I liked him a lot as a Daily Show fill-in, but I don't want to be preached at.  The funny:preachy ratio is off so far.  Hopefully he fixes it.

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      Idiosyncratic, pro-establishment. Liberal, not progressive. For the poor, the children, the planet, and the rule of law.
      UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city.

      by jncca on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 11:59:08 PM PDT

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