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This is my very first Daily Kos post. Many of you may know my twitter handle, but I have something that cannot be expressed in 140 character bursts, so I thought I would do it here.

Democrats need to start thinking like Republicans. No, I don't mean that we should be cheerleading freeloaders grazing on federal land or vigilante gun wackos gunning down unarmed teenagers. I mean strategically. Whatever your politics are, no one can deny one simple fact: Republicans are kicking almighty ass at the long game. Just look at the Supreme Court. Look at how gerrymandered the House is. Look at how many laws have been passed against abortion or voting rights. None of this happened by accident. Conservatives didn't just get lucky. They have been planning it for decades.

While Democrats of the '90s were busy trying to "compromise" with Republicans by watering down financial regulations or voting for "religious freedom" bills, Republicans were busy moving to the right behind the scenes. Conservative billionaires were funding think tanks and "nonprofits" that were floating the idea of privatizing everything. Hell, the Koch Brothers basically own the George Mason University economics department.

When the Citizens United decision came down, liberals were shocked, but Republicans weren't. The Kochs and ALEC had been patiently waiting, biding their time, and they were ready to spend an absurd amount of anonymous money to win a historic majority in the House, as well as a historic number of state houses.

But Republicans know that they don't have any chance at winning the electoral vote again, so it won't be long before Republicans in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan are dusting off their bills to rig how electoral votes are apportioned. And they will have no fear of any media backlash, because today's media is in the business of stenography and reporting "both sides." Besides, Republicans will just claim that they're not really "rigging" the vote, but making it "more democratic." They'll point to Nebraska and Maine as examples, and say "See! It's reasonable!"

Democrats need to stop hoping that people will just "wake up" to these shenanigans or that the media will finally call Republicans on their bullshit. They won't. Nobody gives a shit how many times Harry Reid calls a vote on minimum wage. Hell, the media is terrified to even use the word "filibuster." The old tricks don't move the needle anymore. It's time to play dirty, like Republicans.

Politics is a blood sport, and Democrats need to stop being pussies. There has been very little reaction from Democrats in blue states to batshit crazy laws being passed in red states. For every law red states pass, pass the complete opposite law in a blue state.  

1. If red states are going to pass TRAP laws to shut down abortion clinics, then why aren't Democrats in blue states passing regulations which shut down gun stores? After all, more people are killed at gun shows and gun stores than women die during abortion. Just call it "concern for gun owners' health" or some bullshit like that. Or at the very least, they could tax gun stores and gun shows and use the revenue to help fund anti-violence organizations. Or how about a 72 hour waiting period to buy a gun? That actually MIGHT save lives.

2. If red states are going to pass voter ID laws, why aren't blue-state Democrats passing laws to automatically register everyone who gets a drivers license or a state ID? Or passing pre-registration laws like the one that the GOP repealed in North Carolina? Or passing online voter registration, which actually saves money? Same day registration is another great one.

3. If red states are going to repeal renewable energy laws, then why don't blue states (with oil) start passing oil and gas taxes to and use the revenue to make college free for everyone? Oil in the ground doesn't go anywhere. You can't ship those jobs out of state. You can drastically increase taxes and oil companies will still drool at the prospect of drilling.

4. If red states want to make Christianity the state religion or pass "religious freedom" bills, then why can't blue states make Atheism the state belief? (OK, this one is mostly an exercise in hardcore trolling, but I still think they should do it).

5. If red states refuse to reduce their prison populations or de-privatize their prison systems, then why isn't EVERY blue state decriminalizing or legalizing pot? Furthermore, if this isn't one of the main parts of Hillary's (or whoever the nominee is) 2016 platform, shame on us.

6. If red states are going to privatize, voucherize, or charter-ize the public school systems (like they are in my home state of Louisiana), then why aren't blue states drastically boosting the budgets of public schools? Pay for it by increasing state taxes on capital gains.

7. If red states are passing "papers please" laws, then blue states should do like California did and pass bills allowing immigrants to get a driver's license and free in-state tuition.

8. If red states want to pass personhood amendments, blue states should react by mandating that public schools provide free contraception to students.

9. If red states are going to drug test food stamp recipients, then let's EXPAND the food stamp program in blue states.

10. If red states are going to refuse to expand Medicaid, then why aren't blue states instituting their own single payer health systems? (in fairness, Vermont is trying)

11. If red states are passing Ag-gag laws, then let's stiffen up Ag regulations and enforcement in blue states. And pass GMO labeling laws.

12. If red states are going to oppose equal pay, then blue states should pass family leave laws and universal Pre-K.

Atrios made expanding Social Security part of the platform. KagroX got us filibuster reform. There is no good reason why Democrats can't start playing offense in the states they control. You can't win the war when you refuse to fight.

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  •  Progressives (4+ / 0-)

    are better than breaking rules and completely disregarding common decency.  Rules are everything or the game is moot.  Just because the other side wants to turn our society's clock back to the Dark Ages does not mean that we should follow suit.

    Our job is to move our society forward.

  •  Welcome to Kos, Twitter friend (7+ / 0-)

    Great post. Agree with every word of it.

  •  Evil has plans (2+ / 0-)
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    While Good sits on the couch watching football.

    Best race ever - MI-AG(2002) - Cox vs. Peters. You know you get the joke...

    by Arbo on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 02:15:49 PM PDT

  •  Great post and a real set of jabs at the GOP. We (3+ / 0-)
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    can bring them down with work and planning like you indicate here.

  •  Great diary. You should write more. (12+ / 0-)

    It is very frustrating to watch the way Dems play this game with people they know have no boundaries, no empathy and no integrity.

    In our criminal justice system, a Republican is presumed innocent until the 2nd Coming. - Gooserock

    by ExpatGirl on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 02:22:52 PM PDT

  •  The Long Game (5+ / 0-)

    I would change one thing (and only one thing) in your diary, which is otherwise spot-on. Republicans kicked almighty ass at the long game. Specifically from 1994-2006 when they had 2-3 branches of the federal government in their pocket, and immediately following 2010 with the gerrymander. Now it seems like their long game strategy is hurting quite a bit, what with the whole GOP civil war and all.

    Unless of course it is all a conscious effort on the GOP's part to make "crazy", "dysfunctional", and "false" into "normal" and radically alter the paradigm of the electorate; so that someone sensible (a Democrat) seems weird, untrustworthy, and a FREEDOM HATER!

    Fear sells better than logic.

    Best race ever - MI-AG(2002) - Cox vs. Peters. You know you get the joke...

    by Arbo on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 02:24:53 PM PDT

    •  The Republicans of 1994-2006 were (7+ / 0-)

      Hannibal Lecter, but now we find their dentures are really shoddy.

      We can't out sleaze them, but as the diarist suggests we can work a lot harder.

      I fear that some politicians are coasting, and counting on the fact that they aren't Republicans to be good enough.

      If your strategy depends on having fewer people show up to vote, that is not a sign of strength. That is a sign of weakness. President Obama

      by Had Enough Right Wing BS on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 03:03:36 PM PDT

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      •  Coasting is the perfect word. (8+ / 0-)

        "Vote for us because we aren't them" just isn't good enough. Overall, Dems need to present more of a vision.

        Best race ever - MI-AG(2002) - Cox vs. Peters. You know you get the joke...

        by Arbo on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 04:59:49 PM PDT

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        •  I hate to use it (0+ / 0-)

          but it fits too often.

          We can't "control" our leaders any more than we can influence the Republicans.

          We do have some hardworking leaders, too.

          It's slightly unfair to ask Democratic leaders to be as inflexible and extreme as the people in the other party are.

          I, on the other hand, can push far more than I have. We keep waiting for our leaders to guide us, but how long will we wait until we take action ourselves (I hope it's obvious that I'm talking about nonviolent action).

          President Obama has urged us from the beginning to "make him" be a more progressive president. A lot of his critics have failed to step up. I have to count myself here, but most of us can do more.

          If your strategy depends on having fewer people show up to vote, that is not a sign of strength. That is a sign of weakness. President Obama

          by Had Enough Right Wing BS on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 05:17:37 PM PDT

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    •  We HAD a long game strategy and threw it away (14+ / 0-)

      It was Howard Dean's 50-state strategy.

      It was working.

      The DNC didn't like it.

      So now we don't have any strategy at all.

      Enjoy the San Diego Zoo's panda cam! And support Bat World Sanctuary

      by Fonsia on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 03:56:39 PM PDT

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    •  Their game has been (2+ / 0-)
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      way longer than that. It started in earnest in 1964, just after Johnson trounced Goldwater, and they didn't care that "victory" or legislative change was nowhere in sight.a very small group of very rich men feared the US was turning into a Communist country, and pledged to each other to spend whatever it took to alter that imagined trajectory (see recent obituaries of Richard Mellon Scaife). In 15 years they'd built an unelected conservative infrastructure and put a president of their liking in the WH. Then they got down to business in earnest. And I do mean business, which is their entire real agenda - the social stuff is only there to get poor people to vote for them.

      So they've been on a roll for half a century.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 04:26:09 AM PDT

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  •  Actually, there is a fundamental difference that (8+ / 0-)

    drives this:
    Money.
    The GOP agenda is very good for the Billionaire class. And since the 50s, accelerating wildly in the Reagan years and peaking in the BushCheney era, the ultra rich have built an infrastructure of "Conservative" political activism that is unparalleled on the Left.
    Look at the genesis of the RightWing think tanks, Richard Mellon Scaife (who just died a few days ago), Adolph Coors and the Koch Brothers built up a network of Conservative and Libertarian propaganda machines, Heritage, CATO, AEI, et cetera, that formed the background and directed the agenda. After Reagan cut the Media loose from any restrictions, the former thousands of media outlets conglomerated down to basically 7 major corporations controlling 90% of the media landscape. Very convenient for the CONs, that several of these major media corps were owned by RightWingNuts like Rupert Murderdoch, who acted as a megaphone for their creeds, drowning out any counter voice.
    As a result, the propaganda machine was so effective that an idiot and a ghoul became President and VP, corrupt "CONservative" Congresscritters dominated the legislative branch and the SCOTUS was layered with total jack4sses who have done very well for the moneyed interests at our expense.
    CitizensUnited cleared away the pesky election laws that tried to limit direct bribery, now the ultra rich can pour megabucks into any race they want.
    There is no equivalent power on our side, one or two billionaires, Soros, Steyer, but no vast organized machine to put their billions to work.
    The power that WE have is our numbers. When we turn out, we win and if we win, consistently, for enough cycles, if we can organize to get our issues in front of enough people and get them out to vote, we may be able to turn the tide.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 02:29:48 PM PDT

    •  It would be nice to see more states enact (7+ / 0-)

      truly progressive legislation. We know our way 'works' for a stronger and happier society.

      One thing I find really lacking in the way campaigning works at the state level is that we don't make examples of policies that have worked and failed in other states (generally along red and blue lines). A lot could and should be done with that.

      Education and test scores, infant and maternal mortality, wages, the list goes on and on. I'd like to see a Dem run on them in a Red State - why does Mississippi come in so low on the national scale, this is why.

      In our criminal justice system, a Republican is presumed innocent until the 2nd Coming. - Gooserock

      by ExpatGirl on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 02:36:58 PM PDT

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      •  At the state level, (6+ / 0-)

        corruption is cheaper, the talent level is lower and ALEC is dominant, even in Blue states. They wholly own the statehouses in more than half of the states and their agenda can be seen in every issue from stand your ground to union busting to fracking.
        I wish it was different, I live in supposedly very blue Connecticut and even here we have ALEC driven legislation being pushed into our legislature.
        Again, Media saturation, coordinated activism, powerful propaganda and big money are what we face and at the state level, we have even less of our own infrastructure to face it with.

        If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

        by CwV on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 02:45:27 PM PDT

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        •  Spot on (4+ / 0-)

          While everyone makes the "Tea Party" (whatever that is) out to be a boogie man, ALEC is actually controlling shit behind the scenes. Why doesn't the left have an ALEC-type group? This is what we need.

        •  state strategy is assymetric, why a minority wins (0+ / 0-)

          there, why an amendment is bad strategy because it only takes 5% of the popualtion to stop it. The crisis we're in is not a state issue, this is a collapse of the separation of powers with the Court taking over Congress's job and eliminating the electorate as a constitutional actor. This happened before, when the electorate reasserted itself by putting Lincon in office before the civil war. See FDR's 3-9-37 fireside chat for background on what it takes to rebalance the separation of powers, thereby preserving the republican form of governement. Most likely, fairly soon some of the recent law made by the Court will need to be abrogated by federal statute with the Court's jurisdiction to respond excepted by statute. Some people don't like that, but these prefer to go down with the corrupt oligarchic ship.

    •  I shoulda read this comment (1+ / 0-)
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      before I posted mine.

      One small quibble, about media conglomeration: it didn't help that a couple of the conglomerates were owned by RWNJs, but the simple fact of being corporations, owned by larger corporations, is all it really took to push them to the right. It's simple self-interest, if you're running a corporation.

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 04:31:51 AM PDT

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  •  Some of us think ethics are important. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  You left out the first step (2+ / 0-)
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    Getting our voters excited over these issues. Red states pass the laws you complain about because a minority of their most reliable and passionate voters push them to do so. Those voters are excited about the thoughts of visceral fear, of hatred, and of Hellfire and Damnation. There have been times in US history when the public was excited about its rights, including the Revolution, the demand for a Bill of Rights in the Constitution, Abolition of slavery, and the New Deal, but right now much of the public is more confused than motivated.

    Our best weapon in motivating the various parts of our coalition is that Republicans have declared war on each and every one of them. What we need is not grandstanding, which is more appropriate for the Republicans, a shrinking minority. We need boots on the ground GOTV, because there are more of us than of them, and our numbers are steadily growing.

    When we can next take the House, we will have the opportunity to pass a new Voting Rights Act to deal with gerrymanders, voter suppression, and preclearance. This will lock in a Congressional majority for us, and allow us to start passing the entire Progressive agenda that the public already supports, which is pretty much everything we discuss here on dKos short of gun registration and an immediate change to Single Payer. Those can come after a further discussion between Progressive and Corporatist Democrats with Republican obstructionists and denialists out of the way.

    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 02:39:22 PM PDT

    •  You're being a pussy (3+ / 1-)
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      One big reason the Seahawks won the Super Bowl was because they realized that the refs weren't going to call pass interference on every play.

      Likewise, the GOP has figured out that if they block every single bill with popular support, the media will almost invariably ignore it.

      This is the new paradigm we are living in. These are the new rules. You can complain to the refs and continue to lose, or adapt, learn the new rules, and fight back.

      I'm not suggesting that we pass stupid laws or that we don't need good GOTV. Just saying that Democrats are living in a past world where the most reasonable side wins a debate. It doesn't work like that anymore.

      Conservatives didn't spend billions to take over state legislatures just because YOLO. They have drastically altered the distribution of income in those states.

      We need to give voters a real choice, not an existential one. Since nothing can be done at the federal level, the way to do is fight back in the proxy wars at the state level.

    •  The question is when we can retake the House. (2+ / 0-)
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      Obama has been too willing to compromise with the GOP in earlier years, and I think it has cost him and the Democrats dearly.

      Lost the House majority in his first term, poised to lose the Senate majority in his second term.  Not thinking through some of his executive actions and getting them overturned by the Supreme Court.  What kind of legacy is this?  

      I can't agree that this is a first step that must precede the diarist's proposal.  We have majorities in Blue States, and at that level we can enact progressive laws and statutes that help to show the difference between conservative and progressive policies.  

      Given the current state of affairs at the national level, now is not the time to "wait and see" for things to change.   OUR politicians must act locally and at the state level, which then will encourage the masses to wake up and effect change at the national level.

      Dont Mourn, Organize !#konisurrender

      by cks175 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 03:44:26 PM PDT

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      •  We can certainly keep the Senate (2+ / 0-)
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        The Republican Conservatives Fund was all agog at the prospect of taking down the Obamacare Six, the most vulnerable of the Senate Democrats according to early generic polls. It turns out, however, that all six are fighting on the ACA, and that polling against actual opponents is looking much better for us. The RCF campaign launched in April with some fanfare has as a result sunk without trace.

        I don't predict that we will take the House in November, but I know that Republicans are doing everything in their power to energize the Democratic base to get out and vote in November. Women, especially single women; Blacks; other minorities; immigrants; the young; the old;…all are the subjects of vicious attacks and voter suppression.

        Re YeaYouRight and J9: Misogynistic insults are no substitute for arguments or strategies.

        Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

        by Mokurai on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:00:13 PM PDT

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        •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

          I agree with your post.

          Now, I'm not gonna speak for the other guy, but my using the word "pussy" to mean cowardly is not misogynistic. Vulgar? Sure. But I said nothing to disrespect women.

          Having said that, I'm not gonna get into a long, useless argument about whether we should use parts of the anatomy in our slang. Calling Mitch McConnell a "dick" isn't offensive to men. That guy is a dick.

          Democrats are being {insert word here that doesn't hurt your delicate sensibilities} when it comes to using their power to pass progressive legislation at the state level.

          •  You're not going to (2+ / 0-)
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            get yourself out of the hole you're in if you keep digging. I haven't HR'd you yet because you're brand-new here. Maybe you haven't read DK a lot before choosing us as your platform, but this type of language doesn't fly here.
            There's a word for this:

            I said nothing to disrespect women.
            It's called "mansplaining". You don't get to tell us how we feel.

            "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

            by sidnora on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 04:49:09 AM PDT

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            •  "manslaining?" (0+ / 0-)

              "Mansplaining" is usually something people say when they're out of arguments. It's a cop-out. I mean, there is no retort to "mansplaining." I can't prove or disprove your feelings. So I can neither prove nor disprove whether I am "mansplaining." It's the modern day equivalent of "I know you are but what am I?"

              All I can tell you is that there is nothing inherently sexist about the word "pussy." It has multiple meanings in the English language. One of those meanings is "cat" or "scaredycat." That is clearly the way I was using the word, so unless you can point to what specifically about the way I used the word is sexist, you are wrong.

              If your argument is that it's vulgar, that's a fair argument. But you didn't make that argument.

              Getting your hair on fire over one word in a post confirms all the worst stereotypes about liberals. The reason I am not going to edit it out of my post is that the word itself is now driving home my point. It's hard for a party to be united when people are screaming at each other that their feelings were hurt by one word.

              I can't even believe I've wasted this much time arguing about something so stupid.

              •  Just Plain Nonsense eom (1+ / 0-)
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                Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

                by Mokurai on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:36:52 AM PDT

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              •  YeaYouRite - As someone who is new we are trying (4+ / 0-)
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                to give you some helpful guidance. Feel free to ignore it, particularly if you don't care to post here.

                "let's talk about that" uid 92953

                by VClib on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:29:20 AM PDT

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              •  Explain how calling the Dems "cats" is an insult. (1+ / 0-)
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                Clearly you meant the word you used to mean "weak" and to use it as an insult. Explain how you feel that cats are weak. Explain how calling the Democrats cats is an insult, if indeed you meant the word you used to mean cat.

                You are being disingenuous when you're trying to tell women that the word isn't usually used to refer to women and that to call men that word is to say they are weak because they are women. You can try to tell us that the word doesn't mean what most other people who use it intend it to mean, but that's why your argument was termed "mansplaining". You come across as trying to pull the wool over womens' eyes.

                I'm giving you a chance here to demonstrate that you meant it in good faith by showing us exactly how you intended to use it as an insult while using it to mean "cat". If that was not, in fact, what you really meant in using it, then you need to apologize for sexist language and take the lesson you are being taught here in how not to use it.

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                by Kitsap River on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:51:01 AM PDT

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                •  I love cats (0+ / 0-)

                  I've had cats all my life. The term "scaredy-cat" refers to the typical cat which runs away at the first sign of danger or even a strange noise.

                  Watching Democrats go into collective freakout mode when health plans were being canceled was a great example of this. They VOTED for this law. They KNEW that was going to happen.

                  Democrats in blue states running from liberal policies is another example. I mean, Delaware couldn't even pass gun control. Delaware!! There is a study that can help explain this:

                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

                  It turns out that politicians think their district is much more conservative than it actually is.

                  So, yes. Democrats are scaredy-cats. Pussycats. If yall wanna go into hair-on-fire mode, have at it.

                •  You argue like a Republican (0+ / 0-)
                  We aren't racists. We hate Obama's White half just as much as his Black half.

                  You're the racists.

                  Or from an earlier era,
                  How dare you call me an anti-Semite! Some of my best friends are Arabs.

                  Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

                  by Mokurai on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:59:37 PM PDT

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                  •  Mokurai, I think you may have mistaken me (0+ / 0-)

                    for someone else. If you look back through my entire 9 1/2 year comment history, I don't think you will find any argument like that in substance or form. I invite you to do so, and will immediately apologize for anything you find that is like that. If there's something like that, I need to own it and publicly apologize for it.

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                    by Kitsap River on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 07:17:29 PM PDT

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  •  The problem is the Democrats don't sing from the (7+ / 0-)

    same hymn book. If you say what you believe over and over it will break through. The DNC let's the RNC beat up on the president with lies. Even with the good news of the Dow breaking records and unemployment dropping to 6.1% the Democrats can't control the message. The heads of the DNC should be fired for letting Christie run over all the Democrats with a landslide victory, in their own state. The message from  that debacle is "your on your own" even if the other guy is a crook. The DNC is too passive: and one more thing if Hillary Clinton can't help the Democrats win in 2014 then their no reason for anybody to be talking about her in 2016. I like Hillary but, I want to win now! Stay focus on 2014 midterm and vote!

  •  Also: ballot initiatives to EXPAND abortion rights (3+ / 0-)

    raise the minimum wage, take power from corporations etc.

    If reactionaries can petition to get regressive things on the ballot, why can't our side have petitions to get progressive things on the ballot?

  •  Helluva first diary (6+ / 0-)

    I'm posting on my blog with a few additions:

    If the GOP suppresses minority and female votes by requiring ID, the Dem states should ban cars in a 1 mile radius to protect from terrorist attacks.  Since most GOP folks are older people, this bullshit would decimate their line of attack.

    bill maher said the DEMS need a crazy wing to balance the tea party... we can call it the Donner party.   Push to give out the abortion pill in schools... then our leaders can say what the GOP does "I'd like to work with you but I have to deal with these crazy fuckers"

    The Seminole Democrat
    Confronting the criminally insane who rule our state; as well as the apathy of the vast majority who let them.

    by SemDem on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 04:28:37 PM PDT

  •  The answer to most of those questions (2+ / 0-)
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    Is that their opposition is token, and not meant to be effective.

    Think Washington Generals vs Harlem Globetrotters

    May you always find water and shade.

    by Whimsical Rapscallion on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 04:41:35 PM PDT

  •  Democrats Have Been a Conservative Party for (2+ / 0-)
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    some 40 years. They're professional politicians, they're not stupid, they've been governing and campaigning the way they do because they mainly intend the results they get from it.

    They like leaving informing the people and most of the public conversation to the Republicans and the corporate public square, and appealing to moderate Republicans to win slender majorities by pitching the kinder, gentler conservatism of GHW Bush's messaging.

    A strong fight would have to come from liberals/progressives but we're a very small faction, there is no important institutional support for us and little support by the rich, so we're still trying to figure out what we can do beyond helping conservative Democrats slow down the course the Republicans are leading the country on.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 05:25:33 PM PDT

  •  100% right on every point (1+ / 0-)
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    Did you ever wonder who financed the judicial careers elections of the Five Conservative Republican appointed Supremes that ruled on hobby lobby and Citizen United ??

    Did you ever wound why the first order of business that the republican super majority had was to pressure the FCC to drop the Broadcast Fairness doctrine  and equal time rule??

    The SUPER PAC ads would have never worked if those two rule were still in place..

     Now Net neutrality..

    you are looking at a weaponless  coup d'éta being carried out by fascist Americans oligarchy ie the Corporate State.

    Our environment will soon be sacked like a third world country. The Multi-nationals are done with the middle east, it is destroyed .The mission has been accomplished.  Now that they have bought a congress with their money, I fear that they have a new target , the United States ...

    •  windsong - please educate us (0+ / 0-)

      Who financed the legal educations and judicial careers of the conservative five? All but Kennedy worked for periods of time in the Federal Government before being named to various appeals courts.

      "let's talk about that" uid 92953

      by VClib on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:37:09 AM PDT

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  •  Stop being pussies? (2+ / 0-)
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    You lost me with your crude sexist language.

    www.happyanimalsclub.org

    by pitbullgirl65 on Sun Jul 06, 2014 at 09:25:08 PM PDT

    •  Uhhhh (1+ / 0-)
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      I didn't use any sexist language. I wasn't taking about women or sexuality or anything remotely related to that. If strong language offends you, then my posts aren't for you.

      •  Pussies is sexist language! (2+ / 0-)
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        Being a "pussy" means being a woman. Being someones "bitch" is the same thing. Calling a man a pussy/fag/bitch is an insult. Why? Because being a woman is the biggest insult of all. Why do you think men freak out wearing pink?

         We don't need this garbage on the Daily Kos. I fled  Democratic Underground because of this (and jokes about lynching) and I don't want this place to slide into that.

        The fact l have to explain this here is depressing.  

        www.happyanimalsclub.org

        by pitbullgirl65 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 05:02:08 AM PDT

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  •  I'll try to address your ideas (1+ / 0-)
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    point by point:
    1) Physicians on staff at gun stores is grandstanding, and people would percieve it as such.Taxing them and requiring waiting periods are much better ideas. I live in a blue state, where our intrastate gun laws are already very tough, and they are effective. But the best thing would be figuring out a way to stop the importation of guns from states with lax gun laws. It would save lives and cut into the gun industry's business simultaneously.
    2) Not everyone who is qualified to drive is eligible to vote. Some are not citizens, some are too young. We already have the Motor Voter Law, it should be publicized more.
    3) Unclear. Are you proposing that blue states pass taxes on oil and gas production? We're way more concerned with preventing gas production in our state (aka fracking, which is likely to destroy our water supply) than taxing it. And if you're proposing taxing gas and oil use, we already have that.
    4) This is a joke. Even the most liberal states have enormous majorities of believers, both in their legislatures and in their electorates.
    5) we're working on it.
    6) we're working on this, too.
    7) and we're working on this!!!!
    8) I like it. We're already doing it.

    "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

    by sidnora on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 05:19:27 AM PDT

    •  Thanks for the reply. (0+ / 0-)

      My replies to your replies:

      1. The "physicians on staff" at gun stores is mostly a joke because it's equally as pointless and "grandstanding" to pass laws like that for abortion clinics. The point is that Republicans find a way to shut down abortion clinics, so Democrats should find a way to shut down gun stores. Find some kind of burdensome regulation that can do it.

      2. You don't have to "drive" to get a state ID. And Motor Voter doesn't "automatically" register you to vote. It simply means that registration must be made available. BIG difference.

      3. Yes, I am proposing we tax the almighty shit out of oil and gas production, because the oil is, you know, IN THE GROUND. It's one of those "jobs" that can't be exported. Alaska already does this and uses it to pay for education.

      4. You're right. That one is a joke. That's kind of the whole point.

      But thanks again for your reply.

      •  A bit more: (0+ / 0-)

        1) we hardly have any gun stores here as it is. Apart from one I know of downtown near police headquarters, that caters to the cops, I couldn't tell you where you could go to buy a gun legally in NYC, and that's not even taking into consideration the screenings and massive paperwork required for a permit. IOW, we have the kind of gun laws that the rest of the country should. Unfortunately for us, we have no way of keeping imported guns out of our state, though. Those are the ones that kill people here.
        2) no, you don't have to drive to get a state ID. I have one, and I don't drive. You also don't have to be a citizen, or of voting age, to get one. But non-citizens and kids under 18 (17 for pre-registration) can't vote. So you can't simply register everyone automatically.
        3) I'd rather keep the gas in the ground, and my drinking water potable, and find some other revenue source. Fracking is dangerous to just about everyone, except maybe T. Boone Pickens, who decided to become an "environmentalist" and convince TPTB that natural gas is "green". We could pass a tax so onerous that it makes it commercially unfeasible to drill, but then your revenue stream is gone.

        "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

        by sidnora on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 04:07:49 PM PDT

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  •  Dems seem to think that they have a lock on (1+ / 0-)
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    the Presidency. That isn't true, and as the diarist suggests, proportional allocation of big state electors can take away the advantage that Dems have in states that vote blue in Presidential elections. Where they have control of a state, the Republicans are beavering away on that.
       And Democrats seem to believe that changing demographics will bring them inevitable victory after 2016. But there is no reason to believe that Hispanic voters will indefintely continue to vote for the Democrats.
       I'm already hearing a lot of criticism of President Obama from Hispanics I know. Some are veterans who are having difficulty with the VA, some are having trouble finding a job.
       The Democrats need to appeal to average voters. It is as simple as that. Right now we have a high likelihood of seeing a President Jeb Bush, or a President Romney, or a President H. Clinton who is immobilized and ineffective because Republicans control the Congress.

    •  All true (0+ / 0-)

      But just because Hispanics are criticizing Obama doesn't mean that Republicans appeal to them. Democrats currently get between 60-70% of the Hispanic vote. Even if a smaller percentage of Hispanics vote for Democrats, the fact that they are becoming a bigger percentage of the electorate means that Democrats' electoral advantage will grow.

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