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  •  Very nice job. (17+ / 0-)

    Your SCOTUS drawings are so good I almost spit on my monitor.

    A true craftsman will meticulously construct the apparatus of his own demise.

    by onionjim on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 06:49:32 AM PDT

  •  I'm getting a bit old, but...... (18+ / 0-)

    I still remember when I was a young man, and I liked having non-reproductive sex with fertile women. While the bulk of the Republican party seem on board with the concept of denying birth control to women, and are clearly averse to the gay sex (at least they SAY they are) it leaves them with few legitimate outlets, or inlets for that matter.

    Yes, Tom T, you have done your usual fine job, but jeez, these guys are freaking morons, and their supporters are fools.

  •  "Celebrate with an explosion of misogyny" (18+ / 0-)

    Conservatives really know how to make their bad situation with women even worse.

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't

    by crystal eyes on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 06:57:31 AM PDT

  •  As long as most of the country believes (8+ / 0-)

    in that invisible sky god, we are doomed. Seriously. Doesn't anyone read the history of the Abrahamic religions? I mean really READ it?

    •  You mean the one (6+ / 0-)

      about the Flying Spaghetti Monster?     :-)

      A true craftsman will meticulously construct the apparatus of his own demise.

      by onionjim on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 07:06:34 AM PDT

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    •  You're dying to tell us, so please do. (1+ / 0-)
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      •  Oh it's much more fun reading all of it over many (4+ / 0-)
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        years yourself.  That's how I became an atheist.

        •  Where did you start? (1+ / 0-)
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          •  In high school with The Gnostic Gospels (7+ / 0-)

            by Elaine Pagels.  That led to articles and books on the history of Christianity. This put me on to the fact that there were other gospels that didn't make it into the bible and I wondered why.  I was given my mother's set of The History of Civilization by Will Durant (13 volumes!). Of course I haven't read it all, but spend time going through the parts on the beginnings of Christianity etc. Then read the bible cover to cover, which is hard to do without a bottle of Advil nearby.   The history of the catholic church is a dilly of entertainment.  Of course, these things tie into the Crusades and Inquisitions and witch burnings and 30 Years War between Protestants and Catholics... and on and on....

            •  Being forced to go through confirmation which was (0+ / 0-)

              a solemn swearing of belief in the existence of each of the three persons of the Christian trinity was what turned me off Christianity.  I was more sure that it was somehow morally wrong to solemnly swear belief in something you find somewhere between unintelligible and incredible than I was of the existence of any of the three persons of the Christian trinity.  I asked the pastor to get me out of it.  He claimed that since I was willing to escort my mother to church and sit through service with her I ought to go through confirmation for the sake of peace in the family.   I finally ended up joining a very liberal Jewish congregation.  Their whole attitude that ** cares more what humans do than what theological opinions they are willing to endorse made much more sense than Christianity's insistence on theological opinion.  By the way the pastor did finally repent about 10 years later.  I had a nervous breakdown--even more over my mother's insistence on correcting my English homework and making me copy it over with her corrections than over religion.  The pastor visited me once in the hospital and asked me if it was his fault over the confirmation that I had that nervous breakdown.  I told him that it was at least 90% over my homework and at most 10% over religious confirmation. He decided he didn't want to take the chance of driving any other confirmation age teenagers crazy and stopped taking the parents' side in disagreements over confirmation.

        •  Interesting... (7+ / 0-)

          Reading the Bible cover-to-cover (twice; once in my early teens and then again in my early 20s - observing contradictions, appreciating the poetry, one romantic story in Book of Ruth, and the sizzling sexiness of Song of Solomon), adding history, anthropological and archaeological info, etc., which included detours into horrors like the Inquisition, Crusades, and so on and so forth over the last 1500 years, led me down the path to atheism.  Of all of them, historical studies regarding religious malfeasance is the most important because each crime against humanity sets a precedent for future crimes that are even worse.  [IMHO.]

          Other people have different paths.  That just happens to be the one I took.

          I'm of the opinion that each person must take her/his own 'spiritual' journey.

          All that came about because the minister lied to me in confirmation class when I was about 14/15....

          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 01:08:08 PM PDT

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          •  Paths to Unbelief (6+ / 0-)

            An eye-opener for me was my confirmation ceremony itself, at which the archbishop elected, inexplicably, to sermonize on the evils of Christian Science.  The presence in the congregation of my loving and gentle Christian Scientist grandmother made me horribly embarrassed and ashamed that she was subjected to such insensitivity. Surely it might have occurred to the doddering fool that proud family members who were non-Catholics might be in attendance, and he could have chosen a more ecumenical topic.

            •  I know the feeling. (5+ / 0-)

              I attended a funeral for my close friend who was Christian in a sort of new age way. His church had been progressive Lutheran when he attended it, but had obvious been take over by more fundie types.  His daughter had married a Jewish man and converted (don't get me started on that one) and they and his family were in the front row. The minister started in on the glories of Jesus and I was ready to walk out. My friend knew about my atheism and we used to have great talks about it, but I'm sure he would have really been pissed at this ceremony.

              •  I think this was on purpose. (1+ / 0-)
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                It has happened to me too.  Captive or when these zealots go in for the kill.   You don't want to offend your friends or family by walking out, but these zealots have no qualms about offending and insulting us because we are heretics.   Next time I walk out no matter what....if I ever enter a church again for any reason that is.
                BTW.  Did you know that American Atheists are offering Secular Celebrant training?  Great idea, that.   Much needed too.

            •  That is probably why he did it. (1+ / 0-)
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              The Old fool probably knew your grandmother was CS and he wanted to shame her for her heresy.    Typical, I am afraid.

          •  I'm one of those "spiritual but not (2+ / 0-)

            religious" people.  I'm very grateful to my atheist parents, because I might not have landed on a spiritual "path" if I'd been forced by them into some of the religions people follow.  I never had to reject a punishing God, or a personal religious history.  If I'd had to do that, I might have rejected anything spiritual and missed out on the "path" that ended up making it possible for me to keep going through some pretty tough times.  

            But thanks, Tom, for the cartoon.  You tell it straight in a few simple, precise pictures!

            •  The only thing that made me cringe (2+ / 0-)

              a little in the cartoon was the "invisible sky god" part.  I understand the point that's being made, but if that phrase got left out, the cartoon would have been just as effective, IMO.  You don't have to be an atheist to know that foisting a particular religion's beliefs (or any religion's beliefs) down the throats of the whole country is, well, unconstitutional, for starters...

              •  Or.. (1+ / 0-)
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                .. foisting atheism, for that matter.  I think that, if people opposed abortion on the ground that it cheapens the value that our society places on life and left off the "because my God said so" a lot of people (atheists) would be less mocking.  Or not. :)

                "Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove." P.G. Wodehouse

                by gsbadj on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 05:08:08 AM PDT

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                •  Atheism (0+ / 0-)

                  Now this I agree with as well.  Many atheists I have run into refuse to believe in the idea of spirituality because it's not documented scientifically through rigorous experimentation.  Admittedly, spirituality is a subjective experience, but these scientific fundamentalists see that as a reason to mock it.  When science becomes as much of a religion as religion, when mocking and decrying gods is their prayer, they have lost their point and become just another group of fundamentalists.  And like every group, the small percentage that misrepresents it is also the loudest percentage of the whole, so the common perception is that ALL atheists are scientific fundamentalists.  Obviously there are plenty of atheists in the world that are spiritual without the necessity of an all-powerful deity telling them how to behave.  It is just as wrong for atheists to try and make atheism the country's official religion, especially when atheists have such a diverse set of beliefs.

                •  Oh I'd mock it anyway. (5+ / 0-)

                  See, here's the issue I have with the anti-abortion bandwagon.  It is NOT that they wish to 'save' all those potential lives, that's noble and good and worthwhile.

                  As an adoptee, I am appalled that they don't seem to be lining up to adopt the 'love children' of the people they so gleefully persecute.

                  As a foster parent, I find it reprehensible that they aren't lining up to take care of all the kids with less-than-competent parents.

                  As an agnostic, I find it rather silly that the only people 'claiming' righteousness here are the ones showing up in church buses.

                  If a child is born to a home with no food on the table, no heat, no shelter, no clothing to speak of, no medical care, no schooling, or toys, no family, NO HOPE... then why would we ever EVER consider that 'better' than simply not being born?  Because it's not.

                  And that's why I regard the majority of the "pro-Life" movement as a bunch of hypocritical meatheads.  They aren't "pro-Life" at all.  They are simply "pro-Birth", no more, no less.

                  The Rich and Spoiled 1%'ers are making the Biker Gang 1%'ers look a lot better than they used to.

                  by dcnblues on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 12:05:10 PM PDT

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                  •  If the rabid religionists and anti-choicers... (2+ / 0-)
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                    ... had not tried to shove their version of religion down my throat so hard (and had not been so wrong about history), I never would have let my atheism be known.  My parents taught us that we should only talk about religion at home or at church, but not otherwise.  It was respectful to say nothing and abide by the constitutional separation of church and state, and I was brought up to have good manners.

                    However, my maternal grandmother died in 1938 after developing pre-eclampsia which kills the fetus and she carried a dead fetus inside her for three months; her death left five children ages 15 down to two motherless and her husband was not equipped to raise young children.  The doctor noted on the back of her death certificate that the fetus died in March in her sixth month of pregnancy, he recommended bed rest and waiting for nature to take over and expel the dead fetus.  That never happened, so when she did go into labor the end of May, it required emergency.  I suspect old abortion laws in place at the time had much to do with the doctor's decision to "let nature take its course"..., but, as my gr-aunt loudly proclaimed at every family gathering, "If my sister had been a cow or a horse she would have been treated better!"  The dr. knew the fetus was dead, and so did everyone else.  The causes of death are quite gruesome.

                    I don't suppose removing an already-dead fetus is technically an "abortion," but it should have been removed in short order when it became clear her body was not going to naturally expel it.  To cover his ass, the dr. did a death certificate for the fetus.  Male, "of six months gestation but carried to term."  Cause of death: "Toxemia of pregnancy of the mother."  [Old term for pre-eclampsia.]

                    I firmly advocate on the part of necessary abortion to save the life of the mother.  And, because I understand the motivations for a woman not wanting to bear a child that is the product of rape or incest, abortion should also be done on demand - it's not my body, it's none of my business, I leave other women to be mature enough to decide what's best for themselves and respect their choices.  I also do not think there should be a waiting period either since the expenses involved with transportation and/or time off of work, and the like when a woman lives far away from a location where an abortion could be performed, it can be monetarily prohibitive for poor women who additionally cannot afford having another child.  If an adolescent gets pregnant, she is often physically too small to carry a fetus to term and one or both could die during the birth process.

                    In terms of the rabid religionists who seem to retain their religion for self-righteous purposes of telling other people how to live..., well, enough is enough.  Most can't manage their own lives, let alone anyone else's, and they have no business proselytizing and/or condemning others who may or may not be as religious and/or who have different religions the hypocritical pricks disapprove of - or no religion.

                    That being the case, when someone asks me if I've "accepted Jesus Christ as my lord and savior and prepared my soul for the end," it's time to put the self-righteous nosey *itch in her place.  If she can't deal with my polite "I do not talk about religion" answer, she should heed my sharp look, suddenly stiff body language, my icy politeness, and STFU if she disapproves of my answer.

                    A physical therapist whom I did not know did ask me exactly that when I was recovering from knee-replacement surgery a few years ago; I was totally offended!  Thereafter, she walked around cheerfully singing hymns if she was in the physical therapy room the same time as I was.  The therapist I most often worked with was better, but from hints dropped here and there she was headed in the same judgmental religious direction as her supervisor who had offended me.  I pointedly ignored her religious references because she seemed like a nice person otherwise.

                    I'm of an age where I know it's  waste of time and effort to have a logical conversation about certain topics, and religion and abortion are two of those topics about which I have firm opinions based on valid reasons and/or decades of study and thought, and I will no longer tolerate having someone preach at me or forcefully shove their beliefs down my throat.

                    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

                    by NonnyO on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 05:37:49 PM PDT

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                •  I follow two parallel paths (0+ / 0-)

                  One is that of the Church of which I am a member, the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, which is the Church of Antioch founded by both Peter and Paul the Apostles.

                  The other is Native American Spirituality.  This form of spirituality is older than anything, possibly older than the Abrahamic religions.  Most Natives in this land have always believed in and prayed to/worshiped/honoured the One True God, Who IS the Creator of all that is.

                  That all being said, I do not believe in abortion, but I certainly (yes, even as a Catholic!) accept birth control.  I also feel masturbation is a good thing.  So there!  I could also be in trouble with my church for saying live and let live.  Gay or same sex marriage is OK in my book.  

                  I cannot judge other peoples activities.  I would think that something as natural as sex could and should be enjoyed by all, regardless of gender.  Of course we have had built in taboos against sex ever since the 'white' man appeared on this continent.  Now that's bullshit.  Who gave rights to these miserable Europeans to come here to begin with and then to come here saying that everything practiced here was evil?  That the People of this land worshiped devils.  That homosexuality as it existed in various tribes and nations was filth.  That a man can have only one wife.  

                  It always amazes and amuses me that those who came and stole this land were escaping religious persecution but they brought it with them to inflict their perverse ways on the innocent Peoples of this land.  So the entire nation has inherited these grave errors and still wants to inflict and control the millions by a corrupt few.  And I mean the US government and the corporations they sleep with.

                  According to the Constitution WE The PEOPLE can be of any or no religion.  That is up to each individual and their conscience, not Hobby Lobby nor the supreme court, nor the congress, nor the White House, nor the pentagon.

                  Be an atheist, be Jewish, Christian, Moslem, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, or anything else, or nothing. That is of no concern to any corporation or government agency.  What counts in this land is a true sense of justice and fair play.  This has all but disappeared from this society.

                  In closing I say: to hell with the corporation and the puppet government.  The People will prevail.

              •  I disagree... (0+ / 0-)

                If someone told me (As an adult) that they had a deep and abiding belief that the tooth fairy was real and listened to their prayers,  spoke to them and had a personal relationship (Whatever the hell that means) with them then I would freely mock them...

                And I see no difference between that and any religion....

                Organized religion needs to join the rest of our bad ideas (Slavery, Women as property, Etc.) on the trash pile of history. And the sooner the better....

                And peer pressure is a very viable tactic to help achieve this goal. If you want to believe in idiotic ideas created by ignorant goat herders that thought the world was flat and then try to force me to live by those beliefs too, then I should be free to express my beliefs just as openly. (and my belief is that those people are gullible fools being fleeced by greedy bastards)

                Don't hate me for my beliefs! ;)

          •  Oh yes. Me too. (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Old sayings, now pretty much lost cliches: (5+ / 0-)

      "The only thing we learn from history is, we learn nothing from history."

      "Those who don't want to learn, won't"  Those who know all there is to know about everything already, can't".

  •  Probably the most spot on cartoon you've ever done (11+ / 0-)

    and that is saying a lot! Plan on stealing and reposting at blogforiowa.
    Well done!

    Republicans never give up once they get the smell of money in their nostrils.

    by rurallib on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 07:02:41 AM PDT

  •  Brilliant, as usual! (15+ / 0-)

    Tom Tomorrow is a national treasure.

    If this were a just world, he'd be a multimillionaire, or perhaps a billionaire.

    Unfortunately for him, the big money is made by con men trying to tell the public that 2 + 2 = 5.

    There's no money to be made by those who insist that 2 + 2 = 4.

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    on Facebook.

    "You have no respect for excessive authority or obsolete traditions. You're dangerous and depraved, and you ought to be taken outside and shot!" - Catch 22 by Joseph Heller

    by rambler american on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 07:26:17 AM PDT

  •  Corporations Worship Their GOD Money at the (16+ / 0-)

    Altar of GREED & Selfishness.

    (Criminally Indict Clarence Thomas for Falsifying his Financial Disclosure Forms for deliberately omitting his teabagger lobbyist wife's Kochroach $500,000.00+/yr. income.  If it's a crime to lie on a gun purchase application, then it's a crime to lie on a financial disclosure form.)

  •  Can we get Droney... (4+ / 0-)
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    Blizmo, tekno2600, dewtx, Rogneid take out that devout store?

    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 07:48:26 AM PDT

  •  Scientology? (6+ / 0-)

    I wonder how many corporate CEO's will find
    a new religion, Scientology, then they won't have
    to cover anything, no insurance at all, maybe just some vitamins, who knows.

  •  I, for one, welcome our new religious overlords (8+ / 0-)

    and their sincere corporate religious faith. Yea, brethren and sistren, the truth was revealed to me at:

    The Church of Mammon

    (Hopefully everything is working right, but it was kind of a quick slapdash so let me know if you encounter problems)

  •  It should be argued (4+ / 0-)

    before the Supremes that corporations CANT be people because they don't have a spirit or soul. The evangelicals and many religious sects would agree with that. The Supremes would be in a real pickle on that one.

  •  Great summary of the issues (1+ / 0-)

    The most obvious solution is in your fourth panel. Get employers out of the healthcare critical path. It makes absolutely, utterly, zero sense in a society where businesses have pushed the workforce toward at-will, independent contract positions solely for their own corporate benefit. To continue granting them power over the personal decisions of their employees is ludicrous.

    America and the Obama administration wanted a single-payer option back in 2008 but it was blocked by ultra conservatives in congress. Time to clean house and get it done.

    •  um . . . (2+ / 0-)
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      America and the Obama administration wanted a single-payer option back in 2008 but it was blocked by ultra conservatives in congress
      That is not the way I remember it . . . . .

      As I recall, single payer was never even put on the table.

      A public option was, but was withdrawn because some Democrats bitched about it, while the Goppers stood on the sidelines waving their arms totally ignored and not invited to any of the meetings.

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 04:44:54 PM PDT

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  •  One of my all time favorites was (1+ / 0-)

    "A few things we'd like to know..."

    I'd love to see this one again but can't find it in the archive. :-(

    This is paraphrased from memory...

    Are all "Family Values" Republicans actually closeted sexual libertines, or just most of them?

    What other commonly held scientific truths do they not believe in?

    Aerodynamics, schmerodynamics! This plane is held aloft by God's Heavenly Angels!!!

    And of course the creepily funny: "What is in Cheney's man-sized safe?"

    It's, ulp, feeding time Mr. Cheney...

    I still laugh mao at that strip.

  •  All three branches of government are so thoroug... (1+ / 0-)

    All three branches of government are so thoroughly corrupted by money, and the personal biases of the very powerful, that it really is high time for the introduction of a "people's veto."

    Not saying that we're mature enough as a society to make the radical step to a direct democracy, for every political decision, but on issues of great import "we the people" need some mechanism, other than the party building and decades-long efforts to elect "the right" sort of politicians, to express our will.

    For idiotic decisions, like "Hobby Lobby," we need the power to put our foot down and say "sorry guys, no dice" through a direct popular vote.

    Crowds may not always be wise, but really, could we f-up the country any worse than it already has been by our current political process?

  •  Here's the key (2+ / 0-)

    To the argument for those who support Hobby Lobby.

    Like me, I'm sure many of you believed that health insurance is a benefit, part of your compensation package in which you pay part and your employer pays part. The money is yours.

    But according to several people I know in middle management in corporations, the money the employer pays into health insurance is still their money because it is their policy that they chose for you. If you want health care that violates your employers religious beliefs, you are forcing them to go against their religion.

    The argument reeks of paternalism The act that being denied birth control violates your right to freedom of or from religion does not register on their radar.

    Of course, many employers pay matching funds into a 401k but when asked what would keep an employer from taking those funds back or insisting on dictating how that money be spent according to their religious beliefs, the argument is dismissed because once the money is in the 401k it's yours.

  •  If God could be seen, He would be no God. (1+ / 0-)

    False Religion Supreme Court Justices are a far cry from the true God of the Holy Bible. These clowns are about as Spirtual as .....all of the other, right wing nutjobs!

  •  Problem is (0+ / 0-)

    All these men that tell women to keep their legs closed are the ones most likely to expect a woman to open her legs for him because he bought her a drink or dinner.  The same idiots that want their girlfriend to put out but then wants to marry a virgin.  Of course, he won't stay with a woman who doesn't have sex with him and wonders why he can't find a pure woman to marry.  Assholes, each and every one.

  •  The scariest part.... (0+ / 0-)

    Doesn't really seem like parody at all. If I saw this on the news, I wouldn't doubt any of it. What. A. Fucked. Up. World.

    I remember when Robin Williams was talking about the second coming and he said Jesus was not gonna look like Ted Neugent, he was gonna look like Charles Bronson, and he's gonna be pissed off!!!

    Except this time instead of wanting to talk to Jerry Fallwell, He's gonna want to see the SCOTUS women haters and their paid for legal logic. Not a believer, but I know these people create their own hell.

  •  Those five idiots... (0+ / 0-)

    in our SCOTUS will pay dearly for their crimes against the people of the U.S. If they think they will skate on this one, they have another thing coming. We simply need to impeach those five degenerates, the sooner the better, so that this country can get back on its feet and finally start to progress again.

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    by JohnnieZ on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:36:21 PM PDT

  •  cartoon (0+ / 0-)

    Wonder how many people that are calling women that use birth control or has used it sluts and whores realize they are insulting their own Mother since there are very few women under the age of say 75 that hasn't used birth control, most of them the pill at some time or other?
     Do they walk up to  their mother and say" hello slut-whore mom how are you doing today"  If I was the mother of one of these foul mouthed individual I would disown her or him, I used the pill so I didn't lose two or more days out of work each month because of the cramps not because I was slut or whore.
    Why do people consider women sluts-whores because they like sex but don't want to risk reproducing when they have it while giving thumbs up to men for having sex as often as they can while they don't care if their partner gets pregnant since they can always walk out if she does. In their book the more sex man can get the better, women using birth control especially birth control partially or completely paid for by their employer to keep from getting pregnant are sluts and whores for having sex with these men even their husbands.



  •  Tithing (0+ / 0-)

    I'll believe that a Corporation has a religion when they start tithing their 10%.  

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