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John Boehner at the AT&T National golf tournament, July 2009.
House Speaker John Boehner has yet to offer a concrete legal theory for why he's planning to sue President Obama, but the fact that he hasn't explained exactly why he's planning to sue isn't stopping him from defending his decision—and he's not happy with the criticism and scorn he's been receiving, especially the mocking he's received from the president himself:
Every member of Congress swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. So did President Barack Obama.

But too often over the past five years, the President has circumvented the American people and their elected representatives through executive action, changing and creating his own laws, and excusing himself from enforcing statutes he is sworn to uphold -- at times even boasting about his willingness to do it, as if daring the American people to stop him.

That's why, later this month, we will bring legislation to the House floor that would authorize the House of Representatives to file suit in an effort to compel President Obama to follow his oath of office and faithfully execute the laws of our country.

The President's response: "So sue me."

What's disappointing is the President's flippant dismissal of the Constitution we are both sworn to defend. It is utterly beneath the dignity of the office.

Boehner might not be willing to specifically say what exactly it is that he believes president Obama has done to deserver this precursor to impeachment, but he does claim that it's about jobs:
Even worse, the President's habit of ignoring the law as written hurts our economy and jobs even more. Washington taxes and regulations always make it harder for private sector employers to meet payrolls, invest in new initiatives and create jobs -- but how can those employers plan, invest and grow when the laws are changing on the President's whim at any moment?
Oh, come on. The only job Boehner cares about is his own. That's why he didn't announce this proto-impeachment strategy until Eric Cantor lost his election. And by the way, in case Boehner wants to know where the jobs are ... last Thursday we got the answer: Jobs are coming back. Job growth in the first half of 2014 has been the strongest it's been since 1999. So sue me.

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  •  Inconvenient facts. (156+ / 0-)
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    Don't worry, Boehner and his tea partier base will start ignoring them right away.

    •  Nice "Mom-Dockers" Mr. Speaker n/t (15+ / 0-)

      “When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty—to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.” —Abraham Lincoln

      by Pragmatus on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:17:06 AM PDT

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      •  DCCC Collected Over 2 MILLION Dollars in Donations (18+ / 0-)

        The week immediately following Boehner's boneheaded announcement to sue the president.
        Thanks JB.

        •  I wonder how long that will last. (12+ / 0-)

          I think a few years ago, it would have been more than two million.

          I'm guessing a few years from now, it will be even less.

          I base that on my own actions and actions of people I know and their friends and families.  I always used to contribute to whomever when a republican said something that was horrendous.

          No more.  I never donate anymore because some republican or republican pundit did or said this or that.  I only donate to an individual Democrat when they've stood up for something good, meant what they said and fought the good fight.

          DCCC Collected Over 2 MILLION Dollars in Donations. The week immediately following Boehner's boneheaded announcement to sue the president.

          Dallasdoc: "Snowden is the natural successor to Osama bin Laden as the most consequential person in the world, as his actions have the potential to undo those taken in response to Osama."

          by gooderservice on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 06:11:32 PM PDT

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          •  I tell them (11+ / 0-)

            that they have my vote.

            It's the coin of the realm.

          •  I wonder how long that will last (12+ / 0-)

            I'm with you on this.  I have given up donating to general funds of any kind (particularly the ones that have to meet a deadline by tonight!) because I want to have some idea of where my money is going.
            Far too much money is spent on elections.  That said,  I will still donate for a particular cause, for a particular candidate.

            •  Agreed. DCCC and other super PACs seem to think... (5+ / 0-)

              Agreed. DCCC and other super PACs seem to think a one-word histrionic subject line is all that's required to make a compelling case. Time for a petition?

            •  I no longer open emails about phony deadlines (4+ / 0-)

              or triple matches, or "send a message."

              To fund raisers for political candidates AND lobbyist groups of all kinds:  LEAVE ME ALONE.

              Eschew obfuscation. - Anonymous

              •  I couldn't agree more (4+ / 0-)

                I am a big supporter of progressive causes.

                That being said, I also have spinal damage that has left me partially disabled and forced me into a partial medical retirement and my income has dropped dramatically. To make up for this shortfall in cash I tend to donate time and activism instead of money. (It's all I can do unfortunately)

                Constantly getting all these, what I feel are scare solicitations, is incredibly annoying. I average about 5-10 a day on most days and most of them are not for any real defined action.

                I also find them somewhat insulting to my intelligence. "We have a donor that will match contributions to X amount." Really? If the donor is that big of a supporter wouldn't they just donate that amount instead of tying their donation to others? I just don't buy it....

                If it was truly about the cause I can't help but wonder why they don't have something at the end of their email to the effect of, "While we love donations to help fight X we understand that not everyone is in a position to do so, so if you cannot give cash, please consider contacting one of these local groups in your area to see else you can do to  help the cause."

                The fact that I have NEVER seen something to this effect in one of these emails really makes me think that it isn't about the cause, it's about generating revenue.

                I really hope that I am wrong but so far not one of these groups has given me any other reason to believe otherwise.

                Maybe I am just getting cynical in my middle age..... ;)

                •  Too many donation solicitations (2+ / 0-)
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                  I agree wholeheartedly. I think the crowdfunding idea has run amok. I have removed myself from umpteen databases, yet keep getting emails from new candidates or groups that I never even knew about. Are they selling unsubscriber names? Time will tell, but it has become extremely irritating, and I think will backfire over time. I like what you're doing. Nothing replaces activism in action.

          •  I do the same now. (4+ / 0-)

            If you teach your child only one thing, let it be kindness through example.

            by Nodin on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:21:07 PM PDT

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          •  Donations to National Committees (9+ / 0-)

            I agree. After the DSCC supported that DINO Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas over the more progressive Dem, I said NO MORE. Now, ONLY to the individuals running like Warren, Grayson, Grimes et al.

            •  Message to the "leadership", should be, those (3+ / 0-)
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              individuals you mentioned, Warren, Grayson, and Grimes, are the type of candidates we want !  NOT "blue dogs" that can't even find the "centrist" position, but venture off into right wing land, in hopes of "winning" by conceding the position of those that elected them.

              •  I thought Grimes was a bluedog (0+ / 0-)

                But I don't live in Kentucky and as usual the media has done nothing to actually tell us what any of her positions are.  In fact I know, almost nothing about her, other than what I have read here and elsewhere which is mostly horse race banality, and a couple of personality profiles, one of which said she was handpicked by the Clintons and the DNC, the daughter of one of Clinton's largest individual contributors and so on as the best chance of defeating McConnell.  Could anyone but a bluedog even run in Kentucky?

          •  I keep trying to unsubscribe (5+ / 0-)

            to the many DCCC web sites sending me dunning notices over the latest Repugnican crap. I keep telling them I've declared a unilateral truce in the campaign chest arms race. I'll vote for democratic candidates and I will give some money to local candidates who, as you say, stand for something good (either through actions or intentions).
            But I'm giving what little disposable cash I have to people whose food stamps have been cut and people whose unemployment wasn't extended. To the rest:  I don't care what stupid thing Boehner said this week. He's not my rep and I won't send money to make a point. I'll make that point in the ballot box.

            Eschew obfuscation.  Anonymous

            •  After making at LEAST a DOZEN separate attempts... (0+ / 0-)

     unsubscribe from the DCCC $$-demand e-mails, and STILL getting at least THREE per day, I started using the "Flag as SPAM" button to report them to my ISP. Now I average one or two per week, generally after I've signed a petition.

              I'll still sign the petitions, but the DCCC begging crap goes straight in the "SPAM-Can" via "flagging". Once the ISP gets above a certain number of complaints from at least three people, that e-mail sender will be permanently "blocked". Serve 'em right... grumble

          •  Donations do send a message that they are (4+ / 0-)

            on the right track. Its sort of like rewarding a dog for doing a trick. No trick, no treat.

            In particular, I am  looking for the Democratic Party behavior that shows they believe in equality and fairness.

            Republicans are crazy, Democrats need to be useful and its up to us to save our democracy. Get to work.

            by Citizenpower on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 07:28:31 PM PDT

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            •  hahahahahaha (0+ / 0-)

              Sorry, the Democrats are kowtowing to the same moneyed interests that the Republicans are--Clinton is currently courting the same moneyed Wall Streeters who supported Obama, because she is going to have to have a billion dollars for her presidential campaign just like he did, if not more.  So the sad fact is, they can either get $10 from a hundred million people, which means they wouldn't be beholden to the corporate interests or they can get $1,000 each from a million people, which still means they wouldn't necessarily be in the employ of big business and big banks or they can get as much as they can where ever they can and that means selling out to the highest bidders and doing their bidding when the time comes to work.  

              The highest bidder model is currently the model the parties have chosen. So in consultation with business party officials pick candidates who are most likely to satisfy the demands of big business.  And that's not as hard as it seems, because by the time a candidate has earned the right to run for national office, with occasional exceptions like Elizabeth Warren who held no elective positions before running for the U.S. Senate, or Bernie Sanders who simply eschewed the Democrat machine entirely, the candidates know how the system works and have already sold out to one group or another.  Sure they ask for our support and our money and especially our vote because without they can't get elected, but in the end they talk to and listen to those who can pay someone  to talk for them in Washington, D.C.:  the thousands of lobbyists who mostly work for business interests and others in the 1%, who can afford their million and multi-million dollar fees.  

              And those lobbyists and their employers are the one's whose wishes are realized in the legislation that does survive partisan divide and saves them billions in tax dollars or gives them access to overseas markets or gives them bonuses for building new plants offshore. Meanwhile, the polls continue to show an electorate still to the left of most of our legally elected representatives and certainly to the left of the president. Take the public option, polls showed a sizable majority wanted it in the health care bill, but the president traded it away in early summer and kept teasing the electorate with it and encouraging us to contact our congressperson because only we could make it happen.  All farce!  Finally in September or October we learned the ugly truth, there would be no public option, because their was no support among the electorate or in Congress for it.  

              And that is just one example, I'm sure I could come up with several others if I thought for a moment or two.  It's not a mystery, we all know what is happening, I think we just choose to ignore it because we feel so helpless in the face of it.

              •  Did money work for Mitt? (0+ / 0-)

                These are unique times. It would be best to take advantage of the fact instead of becoming completely cynical and surrendering to the dark side of politics.

                Republicans are crazy, Democrats need to be useful and its up to us to save our democracy. Get to work.

                by Citizenpower on Fri Jul 11, 2014 at 08:59:32 PM PDT

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        •  This "spat" is THEATER... (7+ / 0-)

          ...designed to distract the American people and fire up their respective supporters WHILE THESE TWO CORPORATE-FUNDED PARTIES PASS THE TPP, ELIMINATE NET NEUTRALITY, LET THE NSA WIRETAP US, AND DOZENS OF OTHER OUTRAGES AGAINST THE 99%.

          Yet another reason I vote Green Party.

          •  Which Green Party? (3+ / 0-)
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            There are several, including the Association of State Green Parties, the one created specifically as a vehicle for Ralph Nader to run for President in 1996 and help Bush win in 2000:

            Visit for Minnesota news as it happens.

            by Phoenix Woman on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 02:27:12 PM PDT

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            •  It doesn't matter... (2+ / 0-)
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              ALL the Green Parties (even the ones in other countries) share the same Ten Key Values ( ).

              And they don't accept corporate money, and they represent CITIZENS' interests.

              Your Green votes add to the 157 Greens in office, and send a message to the corporate-funded parties that selling the people out to corporate interests will cost them votes.

              And this message is sent even if the Greens you vote for don't win.

              (And BTW, Gore WON Florida and the election in 2000 -- look it up.)

              •  Hmm. My only issue with your list of 10... (0+ / 0-)

                is the "decentralization" one. What exactly does that entail? Because one *huge* assed problem with the government, as it stands, is that the wrong things are centralized. You can't get good environmental policy, sound school programs, functional infrastructure, or anything else that must be universal, by letting the local state, or worse, counties, handle it. That is how we get stupid BS like California having strict laws, but only in places where large numbers of people live, for vehicle emissions, while morons in the southeastern states are now running around with their diesel trucks mistuned, so they can blow toxic smoke into the faces of people they don't like. Its how we have a completely failed infrustracture, and the people that should be doing something about it whining that it would be "federal jobs", and "we just can't have that. We need real ones!" Its why, while in nearly every other part of the western world, education follows a clear set of guidelines, not just some stupid set of tests, to see how badly one school or another is failing (while doing jack all to fix the problem of what, and how, the education failed), we have local school boards, filled full of people that, often, are not qualified to cut hair, never mind decide which text books are better, dictating how children should be educated.

                This is why I won't go with the green party. They have the same deluded idea that the "Tea Party" has about fixing government and politics - don't re-arrange the fed so its doing what needs to be universal, and take some power away from states, which they should never have had in the first place, but, gut the fed, and spread all the power out, including the stuff they already do have, even thinner, so there will be even more stupid decisions being made, by "locals", like attacking solar power (at the behest of the Koch Brothers), in places it works well, to protect energy company interests, while denying all the problems that need to be fixed - i.e., doing the exact opposite, "locally" of the what the bloody fed should be doing something about "nation wide".

                Decentralization of power only works when the power you are talking about *only* impacts the locals. The problem is, traditionally, what has gotten decentralized is every bloody thing that supposed greed, self aggrandizement, delusions of local superiority, and other similar, "I don't want to have to do that, so my whole state should have the right to be ignorant, anti-some group we don't like, non-tax paying, yokels!", nonsense.

                And, there is no way in hell you get items #2, #3, or #7, or even #8, by reducing the ability to make everyone do something about them. Worse, #8 is almost always the core excuse for failing the first three, and insisting they are "state issues", which will somehow magically solve themselves, while the "states" are busy undermining rights, by pushing anti-women health laws, and other such dreck.

                The point being - I don't vote for people who can't see past their own presuppositions, to recognize the blindingly obvious ways that their philosophy will stab itself in the back. Which is a huge reason why I might vote for someone from the Green Party, if they showed they actually comprehended that the fed is critical for some things (like, making sure we are a single nation, not a coalition of smaller nations), but never a Libertarian (who literally can't see the forest for the trees, when it comes to how corruption arises in unregulated markets).

          •  Right. And that's been successful. Look at how (4+ / 0-)

            many Greens have been elected.

            Ooops -- those are Teanut numbers: almost statistically significant.

            This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

            by JJustin on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:25:12 PM PDT

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            •  The power to challenge... (0+ / 0-)

              ...the corporate power structure is there if we choose to use it.

              •  Yes. But "the corporate power structure" is (0+ / 0-)

                on one hand unaffected by the challenge when the challenge is unsuccessful; but also positively affected -- from its point of view -- when the Green candidate, who has no chance of success, drains votes from the less elitist/more mainstream liberal candidate/s, who do have a chance of success, and thus swings elections to far-right Republicans.

                As happened in Florida, in 2000, when the fine upstanding Green candidate Nader betrayed his oath to the Green Party, in exchange for its nomination, not to campaign in swing states, which Florida was, thus draining sufficient votes from the electable candidate to bring the election into reach of stealing.

                It turns out that Greens are some sort of leftist, with an arrogant, superior view over their intellectually inferior peers, and who unethically refuse to take responsibility for having assisted the Bushit criminal enterprise into office.  

                The short accurate term for which is: pseudo-intellectual.

                This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

                by JJustin on Sun Jul 13, 2014 at 05:41:44 PM PDT

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          •  I'll be voting for a specific Green Party (0+ / 0-)

            candidate this November for two reasons, first because I am tired of traditional two-party politics and I like the Green party platform and secondly because the candidate helped me and some co-workers a long time ago and I've never forgotten how he was both smart, smart, smart, and passionate about helping people get a fair deal.
            I'll vote for the party candidate who has demonstrated his or her objective is to serve the public good over private interests!

            TAX the PACs!

        •  The DCCC (2+ / 0-)
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          I was stupid to toss in some money, without asking one question. That is where does the $$$ go if the suit doesn't materialize?

          •  Counter-suit for abuse of process; i.e., publicly (4+ / 0-)

            threatening suit, then not following through.

            It indicts -- then runs away from proving the indictment.

            It's a form of defeamation.

            It also wastes taxpayer funding of the courts.

            This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

            by JJustin on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:27:34 PM PDT

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        •  This is so 1990s and maybe early (3+ / 0-)
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          Big bad republican said something nasty against a Democrat and the emails go flying into inboxes:  DONATE BECAUSE X REPUBLICAN WAS MEAN.

          That's the way it used to be, and yes, I fell for it, but no more.  I only donate to what a Democratic says and follows through with, not what some asshole republican says.

          But hey, if it floats someone's boat because some asshole republican says X and an email gets sent around:  CONTRIBUTE because asshole republican said X, so be it.

          I truly believe that won't last that much longer.  

          Dallasdoc: "Snowden is the natural successor to Osama bin Laden as the most consequential person in the world, as his actions have the potential to undo those taken in response to Osama."

          by gooderservice on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:38:49 PM PDT

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          •  Exactly (3+ / 0-)

            You want my money (And my vote) then tell me what YOU have done or said, not what your opponent said.

            The vile garbage that spills out of the mouths of Boner and his ilk mean nothing to me other than giving me a slight boost in self esteem ("I may be an Ass, but at least I am not THAT kind of ass.")

            Earn my Donations and Votes based on YOUR actions, not those of some idiotic, racist, homophobic, bible thumping moron....

            I already know what his beliefs are, how bout you show me yours by both word and deed?

        •  I think right now it's up to very close to 3 (4+ / 0-)
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          million! Yay, DCCC! Yay, small donors like you and I adding our dollars up to big funding! Yay, winners of the mid-terms. The Dems.

        •  The DCCC is going to waste that money (2+ / 0-)
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          Pushing Conservadems.

          Until the Dems get rid of right-wing shills like DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and DCCC chair Steve Israel, AND bring back the 50 State Strategy, they are going to keep blowing these midterm elections.

      •  Love your sig. line. n/t (2+ / 0-)
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      •  WTF (10+ / 0-)

        He's on the golf course while jobs, transportation and energy bills are piling up waiting for republicans to act to bring America out of the 2007 recession????

        SUE HIM!

      •  My thoughts exactly. (0+ / 0-)

        “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

        by weezilgirl on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 08:19:42 PM PDT

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    •  And; (0+ / 0-)

      Brought To You By That Crazed Sociologist/Media Fanatic rebel ga Be The Change You Want To See In The World! Gandhi

      by rebel ga on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 01:16:20 PM PDT

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    •  It really is John Boner. (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Perhaps Obama ought to sue Boehener and his (2+ / 0-)
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      "do nothing" cohorts for not attending to the nation's business. I find it ludicrous that executive orders would be a charge for impeachment when the House has offered nothing to resolve the problems they think they see. I find it ludicrous when they complain of a President taking a vacation, when the previous President seemed to always be on vacation. It is even more ludicrous when you count the number of days Congress adjourns for various and sundry unimportant reasons and when in session they come in (if we are lucky) on a Tuesday and adjourn on a Thursday afternoon for no more than a 3 day week.
      As to the impeachment issue or the "sue" Obama issue, What little legal knowledge I have tells me that charges have to be specific, detailed, and with enough proof to have a grand jury authorize a jury trial take place on the suing issue. On the impeachment issue they also have to list the "high crimes and misdemeanors" the President has committed. Being impeached is not a crime. It simply is a charge or charges that high crimes have supposedly been committed brought by members of the House, which in the present moment is controlled by the Republicans, but the veracity of those charges is determined by the Senate.

      There have been 3 impeachment efforts brought by the House against a sitting President. Andrew Johnson was the first and the Senate determined that the charges brought by the House did not reach the "high crimes and misdemeanors" by the Senate. Therefore he is innocent.

      The only successful might have been impeachment, where the whole House (Democrats and Republicans alike) would have voted impeachment charges and the Senate would have voted to uphold those charges was Richard Milhous Nixon. Both the Senate and the House abrogated their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution by allowing Nixon to resign. Lest we forget, the public never got the full story of the impeachment charges. When Ford pardoned Nixon, Ford pardoned Nixon for "all crimes he committed and ALL CRIMES HE MAY HAVE COMMITTED".

      The Clinton charges were nothing but Tom Foolery. Don't believe me? Some of the same Republicans rushed to Senator Vittor's defense for patronizing prostitutes, as really being no one's business.

    •  The Tea Party is NOT Boehner's base (0+ / 0-)

      They want him out, too.

      "Let there be song to fill the air." R. Hunter

      by RUKind on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 02:35:59 PM PDT

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    •  "Dignity" To John Bohner Is Like TP to Anyone (0+ / 0-)


  •  Red is the New Orange ? nt (10+ / 0-)

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:35:24 AM PDT

  •  Sue a lot of Congressmen for failing to uphold (79+ / 0-)

    their respective oaths.

    Shutting down the government, full faith and credit of the United States, voting 50 times to repeal something that has no chance of being repealed, any of those things ring a bell?

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:35:36 AM PDT

  •  Boehner thinks he's finally got more public (40+ / 0-)

    support than Obama because he keeps hearing about something called Orange is the New Black.

    Conservatives seem to believe that the rich will work harder if we give them more, and the poor will work harder if we give them less. E.J. Dionne

    by blueyescryinintherain on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:37:35 AM PDT

  •  Follow the laws ya mean like Securities law ? (17+ / 0-)

    House panel opposes giving SEC documents for insider trading probe

    (Reuters) - A U.S. House of Representatives panel said on Friday it should not have to comply with a federal regulator's demand for documents sought for an insider-trading probe involving the staff director of a subcommittee and a lobbyist.

    The House Ways and Means Committee argued in a court filing that U.S. District Judge Paul Gardephe in New York should deny the Securities and Exchange Commission's attempt to subpoena documents from the committee and its healthcare subcommittee staff director Brian Sutter.

    The SEC went to court June 20 to enforce subpoenas it issued as it sought information related to a probe into whether Sutter leaked material nonpublic information about Medicare reimbursement rates to Mark Hayes, a lobbyist at Greenberg Traurig LLP.

    The committee's filing called the SEC subpoena "a remarkable fishing expedition for congressional records." It said the U.S. Constitution shields the panel and Sutter from being compelled to testify or produce documents.

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:38:12 AM PDT

    •  The Congress is to be the most openly public (1+ / 0-)
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      of the three branches.

      Now they'll go to court to enforce subpoenas against the Executive branch . . .

      This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

      by JJustin on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:52:14 PM PDT

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  •  Something is wrong with your photograph of (8+ / 0-)

    the Boner. He is hitting the ball one way and the spectators are mostly looking the opposite. The more forward Boner goes the more behind he gets.

    Many times I’ve returned. Never was I the same in any of my guises. I feel inside, my times before, with no memories of each journey. My soul’s shadows haunt all the paths it has traveled.

    by Wendys Wink on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:38:14 AM PDT

  •  He is trying to keep his position as Speaker. (6+ / 0-)

    Suing the President, putting him on trial either through the impeachment process or other means must be the discussion the House Republicans are having within their closed door meetings.  Boehner is simply getting ahead of the Speaker election the first week of January by being the most anti-Obama mofo in House now.  And should the GOP take control of the Senate in November it will be a cakewalk for him.  That's my theory.

    Whether they impeach the president or not, put him on trial or not, whether they subpoena more members of the executive or not, the fact is they are going to fundraise on it.  Which is why when I first heard of this scheme I asked is he serious or just fundraising or in this case jockeying for the Speakership.

    •  Fweep, Fweep, Fweep (12+ / 0-)

      Hear the Tea Party dog whistle?

      Firstly, even though it has recently been demonstrated that all things may be possible under the present Supreme Court, how does Congress have standing to sue the President in any civil matter pertaining to the performance of his duties? I thought that it was settled that they didn't.

      Secondly, there is an avenue for Congress to act against the President in a criminal action. It's called "impeachment." Obama's "so sue me" is just another way of saying "put up or shut up." If the GOP brain trust had anything, we'd already know about it. (Except see the previous paragraph.)

      It just annoys the hell out of me that the House is screwing around like this instead of taking care of the country's business.

      "A famous person once said, 'You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.' But as I once said, "If you don't teach them to read, you can fool them whenever you like." – Max Headroom

      by midnight lurker on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:19:27 AM PDT

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      •  This is not settled (1+ / 0-)
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        What is settled is that an individual Congressmember or group thereof lacks standing to do so.

        Whether one house of Congress has standing to do so is unclear.

        •  A Thousand Law Clerks Laboring for . . . (4+ / 0-)
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          a hundred days can probably find citations for most any position the House GOP wants to take. However, in addition to standing, Kucinich v. Obama speaks to both "nullification of votes" (in Congress) and "legislative remedy" (or lack thereof.)

          The House GOP has all the legislative remedies they could ever want. They can (and have) passed measures that repeal sections of PPACA or modify it with a chainsaw. That they go nowhere is not the President's fault.

          As to standing, I think the basics derive from separation of powers.

          Your mileage may vary.

          "A famous person once said, 'You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.' But as I once said, "If you don't teach them to read, you can fool them whenever you like." – Max Headroom

          by midnight lurker on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 12:46:28 PM PDT

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        •  The President is calling Boner's bluff -- and that (1+ / 0-)
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          is causing Boner's head to explode.  Because Boner knows he has no case, regardless standing.

          This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

          by JJustin on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:56:02 PM PDT

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      •  It gives them an excuse for why they're (2+ / 0-)
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        not taking care of business.  Their time is too occupied with more important matters.  

        We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

        by Observerinvancouver on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:15:50 AM PDT

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        •  It's the Dick "Dick" Cheney Doctrine: (1+ / 0-)
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          Republicans always have other priorities than the business of We the people.

          This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

          by JJustin on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:57:41 PM PDT

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      •  Cut aid to Poor, we must fund frivolous lawsuits!! (1+ / 0-)
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        The Repubs want to cut funding to all of the people who need it, but have no problem bringing frivolous lawsuits or shutting down the government and costing the taxpayers billions of dollars.  

        When will they actually start doing what they were elected to do, instead of wasting so much time and money trying to embarrass President Obama and the Democrats.  Of course I think a lot of it has to do with the fact he is the first "black president", which really irritates a lot of racist people.  

        Look how much time and money they spent, trying to impeach President Clinton at the end of his 2nd term, when he couldn't run for re-election anyway.  No matter what they tried to do, President Clinton just smiled, laughed it off and yet they kept on going.  

        I would think the way the Repubs are acting right now, will drive an awful lot of people away from the Repub party.  Also our wonderful Senator, Ron Johnson, just filed a lawsuit, in Federal Court, in Green Bay, suing the Obama Administration over the ACA.  According to the Washington Times

        A lawyer for Republican Sen. Ron Johnson told a federal court Monday that the Obama administration overstepped its bounds and gave members of Congress and their staffs illegal preferential treatment under Obamacare.

        Mr. Johnson, Wisconsin Republican, sued in January to take away his fellow lawmakers’ health care subsidies, saying members of Congress and staffers who must enter the Obamacare marketplace should not get financial perks that regular Americans cannot obtain.

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    •  Boehner is second in line for the Presidency which (7+ / 0-)

      is frightening.  He's an embarrassment as Speaker and would be a disaster as President.

      Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

      by hawkseye on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:24:50 AM PDT

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    •  Like a lawsuit would be resolved before 2016? (5+ / 0-)


      Actual text of the Boner comunique:

      But too often over the past five years, Congress has circumvented the wishes of the American people. Their elected representatives have declined to take any action, watching the Supreme Court changing and creating its own laws, and excusing themselves from enacting statutes  -- at times even boasting about their willingness to do it, as if daring the American people to give a shit.

      Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

      by dadadata on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:40:51 AM PDT

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    •  It takes a 2/3 majority in the Senate to (1+ / 0-)
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      remove a president from office.  Even if they take the Senate there is no way in hell they will take it by that much.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:23:01 AM PDT

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      •  I am well aware of that. (4+ / 0-)
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        My point is that this is a dog and pony show.  The idea of impeachment gets dollars to their coffers and people to the polls.  Recall they were going to repeal ObamaCare in the 2010 midterms.  I remember explaining to family and friends who voted these yahoos into office that they had been duped.  The House can't repeal a law without the Senate agreeing and the President signing it.  Believe me they were mad (no one likes to be taken advantage of) because they did donate and vote not understanding the whole process.

        It's the theater of of it all that keeps them in power.  This suing the President thing is another con to distract us from the fact Boehner isn't really doing his job.

        •  "The House can't repeal a law (2+ / 0-)
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          without the Senate agreeing and the President signing it.  Believe me they were mad (no one likes  to be taken advantage of) because they did donate and vote not understanding the whole process."

          No offense, but they didn't actually know this?  Is there a tragic genetic narcolepsy condition in your family such that they all slept through basic civics classes?  Both my kids know the basic process and my youngest is nine.

        •  More people to the polls, may bite them in the ass (1+ / 0-)
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          What's to stop these people from voting for a Democrat or someone other than a Repub?  Aren't they taking it for granted the people like what they are doing and will vote for them?

      •  That's impeachment. He's talking lawsuit. (5+ / 0-)

        The lawsuit itself doesn't remove the President from office.  In this case, the Enforce The Law Act would claim that Executive Orders are unconstitutional.

        Many judges would call executive orders unconstitutional.  Does Boehner really want to have that declared explicitly?  What if another Republican accidentally wins the Presidency again?  He or she will have Boehner to thank for taking away their EO power.

        Any bill calling for a lawsuit would require a majority of the Senate to pass it.  If the Senate Majority Leader isn't interested in entertaining it, you're SOL.

        Even if it did pass, the President would veto it.  It would take a 2/3rds majority of both houses of congress to overturn that veto which won't happen this year.

        Nice election year stunt, but in terms of actual threats, it's nothing.

        •  The lawsuit could remove the president from (0+ / 0-)

          office if that is one of the remedies they ask for and the SCrOTUS grants it.

          You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

          by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 12:09:37 PM PDT

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          •  According to the Constitution, there are (5+ / 0-)

            limited grounds for removing a President from office, and "I don't like that you won twice" isn't one of them.

            Also, the remedies have to have some connection to the type of lawsuit.  For example, if you are bringing a civil case, you can't ask that one of the remedies, should you win, be that your opponent is thrown in jail.  That requires a criminal prosecution by the state or the feds.  What kind of case would allow the Congress to remove Obama from office?  A civil case wouldn't (those involve mostly monetary damages).  Congress can't bring a criminal case because they aren't part of the law enforcement arm of the federal government, and I doubt any state or local prosecutor would have standing to bring a case for criminal conviction against a President.

            Short of destroying the entire legal system, there is simply no way to get the remedy you suggest via a court case,  Which, interestingly enough, brings up the issue on the case Boehner is currently talking about.  As I said, it can't be a criminal case because the House has no prosecutorial authority (even if they went for impeachment, they have to get a conviction in the Senate), that means this lawsuit would have to be a civil case.  And in a civil case, the plaintiffs have to show personal harm, and as I said, the remedies are usually limited to monetary damages.  Setting aside the fact that the federal government and its officers can't be sued, no one in the House has suffered personal injury, and that doesn't even get into how any monetary settlement could possibly be arrived at.

            This simply isn't doable and I'm not even a lawyer and I know that.  It's Kabuki theater for the rabid right-wing base, nothing more.

      •  Even IF--- (1+ / 0-)
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        Even IF Obama was caught on camera having sex on his desk In the Oval Office with Michelle looking on--with a MAN!!!!---I don't think we are gonna get an impeachment at this point.

        And--he SHOULD just keep right on smilin'---it makes them wonder just exactly WHAT he has been up to.  

    •  Nah he gets rid of the President and Vice Presiden (0+ / 0-)

      t he's president by default as SotH at least until the election.

      I wish I had stocks in aluminium these days. All that foil would be a great investment opportunity.

      by Ceri Cat on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:41:30 PM PDT

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  •  This will work about as well (21+ / 0-)

    as everything else Boehner does.

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:39:05 AM PDT

  •  Sue Me (13+ / 0-)

    The only people who should be sued are the obstructionist GOP, Boehner, McConnell and Cruz, One filibusters his own bill, the other shuts down the Government while Boehner does nothing. Thankfully we have 52 months straight of job creation, Auto, Housing, Banking and Stock Market are as strong as ever. Its the do nothing GOP congress or the do something President, you choose.

  •  Obama is Goading the GOP Into Impeaching Him (30+ / 0-)

    And the GOP is just dumb enough to fall for it and proceed.

    Imagine the most profound idea ever conceptualized occupying this space. Now expect exactly the opposite. You'll never be disappointed.

    by Gurnt on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:39:24 AM PDT

  •  He's lost the right to be taken seriously, (23+ / 0-)

    and for anyone to think he is not lying; especially ridiculous is his claim about the "American people".  I feel insulted and mocked when I see those words coming from him.

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:40:32 AM PDT

  •  John 'Stuntman' Boehner. (4+ / 0-)
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  •  I'm pretty sure (22+ / 0-)

    the President said "so sue me" because he has a better grasp of the concept of sovereign immunity than does Boehner.  Also, it was fun to say out loud.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:42:15 AM PDT

  •  The money's on the nightstand (34+ / 0-)

    I will never forget when John Boehner, during the Tobacco Settlement debate in Congress in the 1990s, was caught passing out $10,000 checks from the tobacco lobby, to GOP members, on the floor of the House of Representatives. During the debate, on C-SPAN. This is who Boehner is.  A whore, a cheap, lying whore.

  •  Because something is happening here But you don... (3+ / 0-)
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    Because something is happening here

    But you don’t know what it is

    Do you, Mister Jones?

  •  from the pic, it looks like someone is putting on (6+ / 0-)

    weight. Must be from being a couch potato for at least 6 years or so eh John? Get to work!!!!

  •  Do We Have a Jobs-Created-to-Date Total For (6+ / 0-)

    Mr. Obama? If it's greater than zero it's almost a mathematical certainty to exceed the sum of 3 terms of both Bush Presidencies. Even Carter does that with I think Ford thrown in to boot.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:44:03 AM PDT

  •  This seems quite implausible (15+ / 0-)
    That's why, later this month, we will bring legislation to the House floor that would authorize the House of Representatives to file suit in an effort to compel President Obama to follow his oath of office and faithfully execute the laws of our country.
    You mean you won't be on vacation, Mr. Boehner?


  •  He's not going to do it for real (10+ / 0-)

    Boner's going to talk about it for a while, then he's going to say something along the lines of "for the good of the country, and because we don't want to contribute to the divisiveness that's been fracturing our beloved land, we're not going to sue the President." Balls.  It's just another stupid ploy to make Obama look bad, which only plays to the most rabid of the far-right wing. But those are the ones they value.

  •  Fuck you, candy-assed republicans (14+ / 0-)

    Bunch of fuckin whiners.

    Physical weaklings.


    (The most proper words aren't allowed to be said at Daily Kos so I have to make do with those.)

    Legal means "good".
    [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

    by xxdr zombiexx on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:45:13 AM PDT

  •  Maybe more ? (3+ / 0-)
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    I heard that Boehner is going to sue the USA soccer team for not winning!!

  •  Formally speaking (3+ / 0-)
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    A lawsuit is not a precursor to impeachment.

    And the SCOTUS has, when it wanted, recognized the House as having standing (in Windsor for example.)

    An of course Jones v Clinton rejected the argument the President is immune from suit while in office.

    But the SCOTUS was wrong, not for the first time or the second time . . . or

  •  Red faced response? Can Boehner respond any oth... (4+ / 0-)

    Red faced response? Can Boehner respond any other way?

  •  Boehner's suit threat is the most ridiculous... (10+ / 0-)

    ...thing I've ever seen.

    By all means, sue the President if you think he overstepped his bounds. Hell, the recess appointments suit worked well enough.

    But before you mouth off, you need specific grievances. This statement by Boehner rings like a stupid stunt.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:49:10 AM PDT

  •  The job data could be better. (8+ / 0-)

    We could have more jobs, and better paying jobs by now.

    But it looks like the only way we're going to see that is if we sue the House of Representatives for their abject failure to put a 'jobs only" bill on the President's desk.  Not a phony, trickle down type a bill, but a real one.

    Sort of like the President has been asking for in every SOTU speech over the last 5 years.

    "The truest measure of compassion lies not in our service of those on the margins, but in our willingness to see ourselves in kinship with them." Father Gregory Boyle, Homeboy Industries

    by Mr MadAsHell on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:49:36 AM PDT

  •  Hell, Why not (8+ / 0-)

    "We, the People" Sue "Boehners House" for dereliction of duty? That concept is no more fantastical than Boehner suing just for the sake of suing without identifying Why...
    It's supposed to be "The Peoples House"---yet Boehner uses it for his (GOP Majority) own gains and political purpose?
    How much More ridiculous can they get?

  •  My prediction (6+ / 0-)

    Boehner decides to go Dean Wormer on President Obama and sentences him to double-secret probation.

    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time. -- Brian Fantana

    by IndyScott on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:53:50 AM PDT

  •  I actually agree 100% with the first blockquote (1+ / 0-)
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    from Boehner.  "So sue me" is a shitty attitude in a President.  Maybe you're okay with it now because you like President Obama, but imagine President Ted Cruz saying

    "Congress won't do what I want, so I'll do it unilaterally.  Anyone who has a problem with that can sue me."
    That's a hypothetical today, but it could be reality in 2017. One thing we know for sure is that whatever the current President gets away with becomes the baseline for what the next President will try to get away with.
    •  I disagree strongly (24+ / 0-)

      When someone says they're going to sue you simply because they don't like your uppity attitude (which since he hasn't been able to identify a single specific tortious action on the part of the president is exactly what he is saying) then there really is no more appropriate response than "so sue me."

      Had Boehner actually called the president out on any actions he's taken that are extra-constitutional, then I would agree with you: inappropriate response.

      Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

      by The Termite on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:05:26 AM PDT

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      •  It's not just attitude. I agree with Jon Turley, (2+ / 0-)
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        who says Obama acted illegally in a number of his suspensions of core components of the ACA.  If that was legal, then I can't see what would stop the next President from suspending enforcement of whatever parts of the law he or she chooses.   It could become a HUGE problem for Democrats in 2017.  The next President could gut enforcement of the ACA.  I don't like the ACA, but I still wouldn't approve of illegal presidential action that would effectively overturn it.  Process matters.  The Constitution must be respected.

        •  Forgive me (12+ / 0-)

          I must have missed the part where Boehner said that this was what he intended to sue Obama for.

          Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

          by The Termite on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:29:43 AM PDT

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        •  Turly isn't the court and doesn't get to decide. (5+ / 0-)

          I like Turly, but he's been wrong plenty of times and I think he's wrong this time as well.  In fact, the current SCOTUS has already upheld as lawful one of Obama's most controversial orders—halting deportations for many young undocumented immigrants—and Turly had a problem with that order as well.

          Turly has a very narrow take on executive responsibility in the "take care" clause in contrast to others who consider that clause to be very broad.  The GOP has been harping on this for over year and both they and Turly are mischaracterizing what the Obama admin has done with regards to the ACA's implementation.  Put simply, they aren't suspending parts of the law indefinitely, only delaying parts of it's implementation.

          According to the Rehnquist court the admin definitely has the legal authority to do so.  That's very important because the GOP is claiming that Obama is not enforcing the law, but to do that he wouldn't be delaying it he'd be ending it.   And in the immigration order I mentioned above Obama has legal authority not to enforce any law he believes is unconstitutional.  And yes, there is precedent for all of this so no new "imperial presidency" is being staked out by Obama.  You might want to read this article in the Atlantic for more on this from when it started and also for a different perspective from Turly's.  

          Ultimately, every one of Obama's executive orders can be challenged in the courts and yet not that many have been and as far as I can tell only one has been successful—the recess appointments—where "no business, meaningless, pro-forma sessions" have been seen as enough to make them unconstitutional.  There's plenty of controversy over that decisions as well.  

          "So, sue me" may be a too much for you, but for me it's simply Obama expressing frustration with five plus years of obstruction in the House.  IMHO there's nothing disrespectful or "shitty" about telling the loudmouth threatening a lawsuit for purely partisan political theatre that suing the administration is exactly what the House is supposed to do if they have a problem with an executive order.  

          Frankly, if any branch of government should be held accountable for abandoning it's constitutional duty it's the House for not even attempting to work with the administration nor the Senate.  Repealing a law they don't like 50 times is the real mockery of our laws as is Beohner's threats.

          America, where a rising tide lifts all boats! Unless you don't have a boat...uh...then it lifts all who can swim! Er, if you can't swim? SHAME ON YOU!

          by Back In Blue on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 03:47:53 PM PDT

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          •  Finally some real substance (0+ / 0-)

            Thanks for bringing some real substance to the discussion.

            Read the Atlantic article you referenced.  Even before reading it, I found the previous post from another commenter (below) to make no real sense.  

            ... Obama acted illegally in a number of his suspensions of core components of the ACA.  If that was legal, then I can't see what would stop the next President from suspending enforcement of whatever parts of the law he or she chooses.
            It is clear that the President's actions were in support of the intent of the ACA.  The delays were based on reasonable needs for implementation roll-out.  If another, future president, were to intentionally block implementation in an effort to subvert the law, that would be an entirely different matter (and, I presume, unconstitutional).

            Still trying to figure it all out

            by CindyV on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 02:28:51 PM PDT

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      •  Agree, crap or get off the pot is the other way (4+ / 0-)

        to say, so sue me.

        "The poor can never be made to suffer enough." Jimmy Breslin

        by merrywidow on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:49:20 AM PDT

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    •  Oh... ya mean like Nixon getting away with (15+ / 0-)

      burglary and obstructing justice? Who'd've thunk it? Or Bush who was performing unauthorized wiretaps while he was telling a press conference that they require court orders he never obtained? Or Reagan selling TOW missiles to Iran and laundering the money through Saudi Arabia in order to finance a CIA war against the Sandanistas without the consent of Congress?

      You mean THAT kind of "baseline"? Hell, everyone knows that kind of thing is strictly reserved for neocons - not those lib'rul commie pinko socialists!

    •  How so? (17+ / 0-)

      Obama knows that his actions re: executive orders are lawful, and he knows that Boehner's threat is nothing but hot air. So he's mocking him.

      I think it's about time for some mockery of these idiots and their racist fantasy of removing the president from office.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:10:05 AM PDT

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      •  Here's what might happen in 2017: (0+ / 0-)

        President Ted Cruz suspends all the core components of the ACA by executive order, effectively overturning the ACA, and then says "So sue me!"

        Don't say you weren't warned when it happens.

        •  I'm baffled by what you see as a problem. (9+ / 0-)

          Isn't the problem having Ted Cruz as a president?  

          The way you talk, a president doing the right thing in front of an obstructionist congress is equivalent to a president doing the wrong thing.  I don't get that.

          Retrospectives on 25th anniversary of Tiananmen at

          by Inland on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:07:02 AM PDT

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          •  Process matters. (0+ / 0-)

            You're only okay with the current President doing an end run around Constitutional process because he's implementing policies that you like.  That's entirely the wrong outlook about governance.  The Constitution applies evenly to the Presidents that you like and the ones that you dislike, and you'll be glad that it does if Republicans win the next election.  I know I will.  I want the next Dick Cheney to be kept on a short leash.

            •  You're assuming he's doing an end run. (7+ / 0-)

              I don't see that at all.

              I want the next Dick Cheney to be kept on a short leash.
              Yes, because there's something that Obama could do that would keep a VICE PRESIDENT on a short leash, legally.  You realize that legally, a vice president has zero power, right?  

              I'm pretty sure that the problem you see has zero to do with President Cruz and entirely to do with President Obama.  Just say so and stop wasting time.

              Retrospectives on 25th anniversary of Tiananmen at

              by Inland on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:23:51 AM PDT

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              •  Dick Cheney was given tons of power by the last (1+ / 0-)
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                President.  The only way to rein him in would have been to rein in the President.  But you already knew that.  You're just trying to change the subject.   You're a perfect example of the type of phony liberal that populates the Democratic Party today.  You've completely absorbed the Republican idea that constitutional checks and balances are only necessary when the other party is in power.   I'm in accord with civil libertarians like the ACLU, Jon Turley, and Glenn Greenwald.  These are people who actually believe in the Constitution regardless of which party is in power.

                •  And what's really bothering you is what? (6+ / 0-)
                  The only way to rein him in would have been to rein in the President.
                  True enough, but there's something about being President that makes it tough to rein in.  The constitution isn't all checks and balances: it's a real grant of real power to the office holder.

                  And all the rest is bashing "phony liberals", showing that you're skipping the proof of the end run and getting right to the purist insulting of people who aren't accepting your word for everything.  Which is "the subject" you were getting to all along: you're great and we suck.  Good luck with that.

                  Retrospectives on 25th anniversary of Tiananmen at

                  by Inland on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 12:39:08 PM PDT

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        •  Except that (1+ / 0-)
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          he would have neither statutory authority nor constitutional authority to do so.

          "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

          by happy camper on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:21:14 AM PDT

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        •  You're barking up the wrong tree (0+ / 0-)

          The Atlantic article linked in this comment explains why.  
          Recommend you give it a read.

          Still trying to figure it all out

          by CindyV on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 02:36:18 PM PDT

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    •  I would add that... (12+ / 0-)

      ...the response becomes even more appropriate once you realize that the threat was empty.

      Boehner is not going to bring suit without cause. The suit will never be filed. It is pure theater.

      And not very good theater at that.

      Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

      by The Termite on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:12:34 AM PDT

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    •  bullshit (5+ / 0-)

      that quote is a strawman.  Obama's problem isn't that the House won't do what he wants it to do, it's that they won't do ANYTHING.  
      You and your fellow shithead, Dem-hating, GOP apologist friend dinotrac should get a room together and start your own website--but then you attention-starved sociopaths wouldn't get the attention you crave by constantly taking a shit on a site that people actually want to read.  

  •  Sue me, sue me: Guys and Dolls: (2+ / 0-)
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    by commonmass on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 08:56:00 AM PDT

  •  I don't think this could be put more perfectly (10+ / 0-)

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    Wanting to own a gun is an immediate indicator that you should be the last person to have one.

    by pollbuster on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:06:33 AM PDT

    •  LOVE IT (0+ / 0-)

      But part of it was cut off - couldn't read all of it (I'm on an iPad and may not have the same screen formatting you do).

      Thanks for posting.  If you have time, please also post a link so I can see the whole thing and share it with my hubby.

      Still trying to figure it all out

      by CindyV on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 02:47:18 PM PDT

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  •  Still no specifics? (2+ / 0-)
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    I know people try to sue other people because 'he is making me look bad'.  But that generally doesn't get very far.  Of course with this SCOTUS, who knows...

    “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck (Disputed)

    by RichM on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:06:53 AM PDT

  •  What happens if he wins? (4+ / 0-)
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    OK so the House agrees to sue the President.

    Assume they come up with grounds and that they have standing.
    SCOTUS takes the case and gets the job done in record time.  The date is November 2014.
    The SCOTUS will rule 5-4 against the President.

    Then what?  They can't throw him out of office.  They can't execute (force him to do anything) because HE is the executive.

    Congress controls the money.  If they can't impeach and can't cut off his budget, they have no power over him.  Reagan and Oliver North proved that.

    Nothing changes except the R's have something to talk about.  Too bad for them that a "Rally 'Round the President" PR campaign will spring up around the country just in time for the 2016 election cycle.

    "...we live in the best most expensive third world country." "If only the NEA could figure out all they have to do is define the ignorance of the next generation as a WMD..." ---Stolen from posts on Daily Kos

    by jestbill on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:10:48 AM PDT

    •  If the President ignores a Supreme Court order (1+ / 0-)
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      I (and, I suspect, many others) will support his impeachment.   To do otherwise essentially places the President - any President - above the law an turns him into an elective temporary dictator.

      Keep in mind, that while the initial decision on the merits may be 5-4, the follow up decision ordering the President to comply with the Supreme Court decision will be 9-0.

      However,  President Obama, knowing both of these things, nd generally respecting the law and the Constitution, is not about to defy the Supreme Court, whether 5-4 or 9-0.

      •  So the Supreme Court orders him out of office (0+ / 0-)

        by a 5-4 ruling (as punishment for his ACA actions) and you would support impeachment if he didn't leave?

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 12:08:35 PM PDT

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      •  The only Constituional grounds to (3+ / 0-)
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        remove a President is impeachment,  You can't do that via a lawsuit.  So, even if the House were able to bring a lawsuit, what remedies would they be asking for? Trying to make Obama pay for delaying implementation of the ACA?  The President isn't personally financial liable for any of his actions in office (lucky for GW). This lawsuit can't remove him from office, it can't bring criminal charges (only the Executive branch can bring criminal prosecutions) and it can't create monetary damages for him to pay.  What does this lawsuit hope to accomplish, then?

    •  Why can't they throw him out of office? If that (0+ / 0-)

      is what they rule, 5-4, what is anyone going to do about it?

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 12:07:49 PM PDT

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  •  Erick son of Erick thinks it's a dumb idea (3+ / 0-)

    You can click here and read the article (the comments are always the best part) or just take my word for it. This boner plan isn't flying with the teahadists.

    Yes, DailyKos DOES have puzzles! Visit us here Saturday nights @ 5:00 PDT (easier puzzles) and Sunday nights @ 5:00 PDT (more challenging) for a group solving. Even if you just pop in and comment while watching the fun, everybody is welcome. uid:21352

    by pucklady on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:17:24 AM PDT

  •  Im really tired of Orange Man. He used to be funny (9+ / 0-)

    but now the cloud that aways hovers over his head with 'worthless self pitying asshole drunk'  written on it blots out everything else.
    Hopefully he'll end his miserable days with something really worth his crying about. For a long time.

  •  Having witnessed... (4+ / 0-)
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    his colleague Eric Cantor being summarily dismissed must have The Speaker sweating bullets.
    Of course The President says "So sue me".
    He, like the rest of the thinking public knows that John Boehner is simply grandstanding in an attempt to save his job.
    If he had any legitimate 'case' against Mr Obama, he would call for impeachment.
    Since that is not the case, we are  all all being treated to a show that's not even worthy of second-rate dinner theater in the Poconos.

  •  Who needs a Constitutional Lesson? (5+ / 0-)

    From the great Orange Speaker's column:

    There must be accountability. We have a system of government outlined in our Constitution with the executive branch, the legislative branch, and the judicial branch. Congress has its job to do, and so does the President. When there are conflicts like this -- between the legislative branch and the executive branch -- it is my view that it is our responsibility to stand up for this institution in which we serve, and for the Constitution.
    But what is one of Boehner's complaints?
    The House has passed more than 40 jobs bills that would help. But Washington Democrats, led by the President, just ignore them.
    The Speaker of the House is aware there are 2 Houses of Congress, right? He is aware that the President runs neither of them and the VP has only a token role in the Senate, correct? He is aware that the President can't force the Senate to vote on bad bills that have no chance of advancing, correct?

    If the Speaker of the House doesn't understand how Congress is supposed to work, is anyone shocked we have a nonfunctional one?

    "There is no crack in our pies." - Michelle Obama 6/30/2014

    by CPT Doom on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:39:52 AM PDT

  •  The only job (6+ / 0-)

    Boner has ever created is the one for his bartender.

  •  He's delusional (0+ / 0-)

    He's delusional

  •  Despite the fact that Boehner and the other (10+ / 0-)

    radical republicans in Congress have been standing on the economy's lifeline for nearly 6 years, the jobless rate is down to 6.1 percent, from about 8.8 per cent when President Obama took office.

    Depending on which economist you talk with, a full employment economy is when the unemployment rate is between 4 and 5 percent, so let's pick 4.5 percent as the middle ground, and make the statement that we are about 1.5 percent from a full employment economy, despite the best efforts of the Republicans to sabotage the economy for their own political gain.

    Mitch McConnell failed in his attempt to make President Obama a one-term president.  The radical republicans, failed to fully derail the economy through political stunts like the government shutdown, the failure to re-authorize various legislation, the farm bill and the like, and if they try to fail to re-authorize the Highway Trust Fund bill, with sabotaging the economy (causing the layoff of 750,000 construction workers), they will pay a heavy political price for intentionally sabotaging the economy, and once again, they will FAIL.

    It's time to replace a bunch of disloyal failure artists, because the radical republicans are actively seeking to cause America to fail, and we have had enough.  Time to GOTV and run a bunch of radical republicans out of office forever.

    Voters might as well elect legislators who will actually TRY to fix things.  The Republican Party is actively trying to FAIL.  It's not a difficult choice to make, is it?

    Republicans are like alligators. All mouth and no ears.

    by Ohiodem1 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 09:53:36 AM PDT

  •  If Boner doesn't like dismissals, he shouldn't sue (0+ / 0-)

    the president.  Because that's what's going to happen.

    Retrospectives on 25th anniversary of Tiananmen at

    by Inland on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:02:00 AM PDT

  •  Doesn't Boner.... (0+ / 0-)

    ...have someplace to go and something else to do of more import..., like mebbe clean his toenails or something...

    For such a young looking guy, he certainly has become addled and feeble minded...

  •  He's Right (0+ / 0-)

    The President hasn't been following the laws.  President Obama needs to immediately begin war crime trials for all those who lied us into Iraq in the first place.

  •  Republicans are upset they didn't get the chance (7+ / 0-)

    to say "So sue me!" to the President. Imagine the approving responses that would have gotten from the right. It's a great line for the President to use when addressing a crowd. FDR used sarcasm in his "Let me warn you" speech in 1936. Reading that again today, the following statement after the ridicule of the Republicans, is eerily similar to today:

    Remember, too, that the first essential of doing a job well is to want to see the job done. Make no mistake about this: the Republican leadership today is not against the way we have done the job. The Republican leadership is against the job's being done.
    Not much has changed.
  •  Boehner is a Flimflam Man. (3+ / 0-)
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    Boils down to, he's got nothing.

    What's disappointing is the President's flippant dismissal of the Constitution we are both sworn to defend. It is utterly beneath the dignity of the office.
    ::::rolling my eyes::::

    Boehner has dignity?  He lost his dignity once he gave power to the low-brow Teahadists in Congress.  Now he's gone off the deep end with this fantastical threat to sue our President.  

    I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

    by KayCeSF on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:32:37 AM PDT

  •  This is ridiculous (3+ / 0-)

    You don't sue a present you feel has broken constitutional law, you impeach. Boehner knows that would be a waste of time and the backlash would devastate the GOP in November so he will not go that far. Instead he decides to waste all of our time and I hope the backlash to that will also hurt his party. Personally I don't know how they will overcome their cheering Hobby Lobby, women will not forget that.

  •  Washington taxes and regulations always ... (2+ / 0-)
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    "make it harder for private sector employers to meet payrolls, invest in new initiatives and create jobs -"

    Really?  I thought that as tax revenues increased, deficits would shrink and any Republocant will tell you that that cutting deficits and debt creates jobs.  Right?  Oh and John, didn't many of the imperial actions undertaken by Obama involve postponing mandates of the ACA which delayed application of regulations which should have kicked off rampant job creating.

  •  Boehner = empty suit (4+ / 0-)
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    HSans, eps62, OleHippieChick, aimeehs match his empty threats.  He's not gonna do diddly squat against the President, and everybody knows it: Except for the Speaker's dim-witted, gullible, bloodthirsty base.  And that is the point - and the only point - of this ridiculous charade.

    All that is necessary for the triumph of the Right is that progressives do nothing.

    by Mystic Michael on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:50:28 AM PDT

  •  Dignity Schmignity (1+ / 0-)
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    Holy smokes!  A GOP rep. uttering "utterly beneath the dignity of the office" is absolutely laughable.  ;-)

  •  To Speaker Boner (2+ / 0-)
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    If you act like fools, expect to be treated like fools.

    "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance of those who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have little. " --Franklin D. Roosevelt

    by jg6544 on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:54:05 AM PDT

  •  The trial (1+ / 0-)
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    This is a trial I will not miss.

    In any event any and whatever (IF any and whatever) verdict will be appealed to the Supreme Court.

    There it will meet it's proper evaluators. The verdict:

    'This pretend President does not have the right skin colour to make any decisions or to carry out the responsibilities of his office like ALL previous Presidents.'

    Period. Full stop.

    A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism. -Carl Sagan

    by HSans on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:09:00 AM PDT

  •  Last week on MSNBC I heard (5+ / 0-)
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    Rep. Jan Schakowsky point out that the Emancipation Proclamation was an executive order.  

    Someone should ask Boehner if, had he been around then, he would have sued Pres. Lincoln for executive overreach.  Someone really obnoxious like Luke Russert.  Boehner might react like a drop of water on a hot griddle.  Heh.  A comforting thought.  

    We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

    by Observerinvancouver on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:09:50 AM PDT

    •  I don't know about Boehner (1+ / 0-)
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      But a hypothetical intelligent Republican might suggest that since the EP was a wartime measure and applied only to territory still controlled by an enemy power [OK, slight technical issue there--rebelling power], it was well within the powers of the C-in-C.

  •  This would be hilarious, if it were not so (2+ / 0-)
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    outrageous.  Certainly Boehner knows how disingenuous he is along with the Repugs that go along with his scheme.

    Boehner must think we all are stupid.  We know there are bills that would have improved the lot of the American people and improved our recovery much sooner,  but he  refused to take up votes on bill passed by the senate.

    The unrest of the American people on jobs, (failed to bring the American Jobs Act to the floor for a vote since back in 2011), failed to bring to the floor a vote on Immigration Reform, passed by the Senate, and failed to bring up bills passed by the senate on unemployment, and the list goes on.

    Congress works by bills being debated, compromised, passed by one House, given to the other, amended, modified, and voted upon; only after those procedures does a bill get to the president's desk for signing.  When  the Speaker refuses to allow a vote, that "speaks" volumes.

  •  When it comes to.................... (1+ / 0-)
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    knowledge of constitutional law my money is on the Lawyer, professor and scholar, our POTUS,  rather than the orange Oompa-lumpa from Ohio.

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation--HDT

    by cazcee on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 11:31:20 AM PDT

  •  What is Boehner Doing? (2+ / 0-)
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    If he thinks the President's actions hurt job growth, what is Boehner doing to improve the economic situation and to improve employment? When you announce publicly that you will do nothing except to hurt the President you do not do anything to improve the economy.

    Boehner has sure done everything to improve the situation of the 1%, now do something for the middle class and working class.

  •  Boehner red faced reply... (1+ / 0-)
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    Boehner Red Faced? How can you tell???

    •  The orange has a special tint. (0+ / 0-)

      Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

      by J Edward on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 01:52:19 PM PDT

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  •  Just a GnOP fake issue since Obama is below all (1+ / 0-)
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    recent Presidents but Ford in Executive Actions. Just pandering to and fund raising from his very base base. Obama's main sin to the aged fear ridden propagandized by FAUX and Limbaugh bagger type is serving as President while Black.

    Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

    by J Edward on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 01:51:24 PM PDT

  •  Boehner and money wasted (3+ / 0-)
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    In 2013 Congress wasted $30 billion.  2014 is on par with 2013 totaling approximately $45 billion to date.  (Fiscal Times)

    That's tax payer's money.  Add on top of this Boeher's suit against the President.  How many jobs, roads, bridges, meals and health Medicaid could that provide?  The 113th Congress is disgusting.  And their leader of the pac, Boehner, should be wearing a dunce hat, sitting in the corner.


    by jpcravescoffee on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 01:52:48 PM PDT

  •  A pre- 2014 election stunt (2+ / 0-)
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    Because Boehner and his fellow Rethugs have nothing else.

    KOS: "Mocking partisans focusing on elections? Even less reason to be on Daily Kos."

    by fcvaguy on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 02:01:18 PM PDT

  •  Don't you just love it when they can't come up (1+ / 0-)
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    with a valid reason for their childish behavior.  Obama has a perfectly legitimate to take his ball and go somewhere else to play.  He has NEVER (because he CAN'T) made his own laws.  Laws, per se, are the purview of the legislature (a word based upon the Latin for "law") and, based upon our Constitution, the President CANNOT make laws.  He can sign legislation INTO law when the Congress makes it and sends it to his desk for his signature. but he has no authority or ability to make his own laws.  He DOES have the authority, however, to instruct those agencies under the aegis of his cabinet to perform certain functions that are part of their mandate, but which Congress may not be funding or enacting supportive legislation for.  No, I am NOT a lawyer, but I CAN read and think.  The Constitution is a very short and basically simple document that, with its various Amendments, clearly spells out what each branch of government can and cannot do, and which powers are specifically reserved to the various states.  It even lays out the requirements for action by the Supreme Court.  If, perhaps, Mr. Boehner is looking for a branch of the government of which he is currently a "functioning" member that IS overstepping its legal bounds, I would suggest he cast his disapproving gaze in the direction of that sometime-esteemed body.

  •  Boehner (0+ / 0-)

    The Boner should try going to work sober, that way he may be able to get control over his KGB comrades in the House. All politicians should be sued for consistently saying No and filibustering against repairing roads and bridges, not allowing approval of nominees, etc. We should all filibuster paying taxes as long as they refuse to do the work of this country while still collecting compensation for destroying this country. It's equivalent to people claiming to be disabled from an accident while living a perfectly normal life and fraudulently collecting insurance money.
    Treasonous thieves belong in jail, and so do corrupt and do-nothing politicians that continue to collect taxpayer money salaries. We need to stop with the threats and actually demand impeachment of these political thugs.

  •  But if I have to make campaign donations (4+ / 0-)
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    to help progressive candidates, then I will buy far fewer of the goods and services that corporate America sells in order to make a fat profit.

    I will stay home and cook from scratch using staples and materials bought by my husband from the local farmer's market and ethnic grocery stores. I dilute my generic cleaning solutions greatly, and also mix some of my own. I will stay at home and watch movies on TV or the Internet instead of seeing the new features, I will shop at garage sales/handicapped adult donation store/Goodwill for household items, and pinch every penny so I can make campaign donations to progressive candidates. By the way, instead of buying clothes, I am buying used patterns and used/new fabrics via tiny stores on to make my own clothing or altering used clothing.

    My opt-out lifestyle also helps the planet. Somebody has to volunteer to make some sacrifices, because I don't see Congress taking action to help the environment!

    Those funding climate change denial commit crimes against humanity. It's the planet, stupids!

    by tsunami on Mon Jul 07, 2014 at 10:54:30 PM PDT

  •  I laughed... (3+ / 0-)
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    ...when I heard that Boner said that the president has an obligation, per the constitution, to pass laws through the congress. i'm guessing he's never read the constitution, which says that only congress can pass bills it wishes to become laws. [the president has no obligation to even participate in that process]. AFTER the congress has passed a bill the president signs it or vetoes it--but has no obligation to do anything until the bill has passed both houses of congress.

  •  Seems more of an orange-faced response. (1+ / 0-)
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    Try to block all the job bills and actually pass some legislation he wouldn't have to use executive orders so much. I mean blocking the highway funds by not letting it through without more tax cuts to the rich? Also we already know taxes don't hurt businesses abilities to provide jobs, it just decreases those multi-million to billion dollar profit margins! Which by the way if they were given to the people at the bottom they would then have money to spend, drumming up demand, and thus creating more jobs. What world do people live in where the opposite of this is true? Not the real one that is for sure.

    “Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.” - Plato

    by Sol Invictus on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 10:40:35 AM PDT

  •  Can we sue Boehner and all of his do-nothing bu... (2+ / 0-)
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    Can we sue Boehner and all of his do-nothing buddies for willful negligence and dereliction of sworn duty?

  •  Why is Obama NOT in this picture ? (0+ / 0-)

    I'v seen pictures of him and Boner playing golf together. I don't trust either of these corporatists. Americans forget VERY fast, the "boners" Obama has pulled - legislatively, and by decree.

  •  It's more of a reddish-orange faced taunt (0+ / 0-)

    If you want to get technical about it.

    Feel trickled on yet?

    by War4Sale on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 11:04:27 AM PDT

  •  They both need to go!! (0+ / 0-)

    There is an old saw that asks "what is the difference between a recession and a depression?
    Answer: A recession is when your neighbor is out of tha job. A depression is when you are out of a job."

    Well, although I am not completely out of a job. I am sooooo under employed it feels like it. I don't apply for jobs I don't think I can do. But the job market is still toooo much of a buyer's market. What seems to be the case is that employers want someone who is at the moment they post the job, doing precisely what they want to hire them for. That is another form of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. There can be little growth under such a fear based environment. Hire me people. I am very qualified and more motivated than when I left the Marines in 1979. What a deal. As for the two millionaires who can't seem to work together and solve this problem (which I am sure I am not alone experiencing) let's get send them off to play golf together someplace other that DC. Maybe Johnson Island. They, despite their collective ineptitude, are set for life and we are footing the bill.

  •  Bombastic Boner (2+ / 0-)
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    He can huff and he can puff and he can try to blow the White House down, but since what the president is doing is perfectly legal, he can give himself a stroke (which I really don't wish on anyone--I survived a massive hemorrhagic stroke) but that is all.

    It's a tragedy when a supposed leader of a portion of Congress refuses to do anything to help the nation and gets all bothered when he  is proven to be a rectal termini.

  •  Red is the new orange... (3+ / 0-)
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    Have any of the Republicans actually reached puberty, yet? They all sound like a bunch of middle-schoolers, hormones bouncing off the walls like a BB fired into an oil drum; all het up and defiant of authority even though they don't know why; sniggling and giggling in cloak rooms over things like "vagina", "penis", and "fallopian tubes"; offended and hurt over non-offenses and perceived slights.

    Could we get some adults here, please?

  •  Does Boehner need someone to (0+ / 0-)

    clean up after him and wipe the drool from his mouth and remove his foot from it too?  If so I am looking for a job and am willing to do this for him if the pay is OK.  I even make a mean martini.  

  •  Red Faced Drunk (4+ / 0-)

    So there he is playing gold while the country awaits forever any meaningful legislation to pass into and out of his GOP controlled domain. Now how is it we do not hear the criticisms of GOP members playing gold - only hear about the POTUS and his golf game. In fact, golf is a nice way to relax, so both sides should get a break. But, where is Boehner's response to
    the jobs growth, the economic revitalization and the troop pullout in Iraq and Afghanistan where GOPe would like to stay and spend more money. And where is the complain against Halliburton for its role in all those lurid affairs that trail back to the filthiest and most corrupt VP ever to occupy the office - Dick Cheney. Don't forget voters who is screwing the public.

  •  Obama should put Boner over his knee and spank ... (0+ / 0-)

    Obama should put Boner over his knee and spank him, in public.

  •  Crying Wolf.... (2+ / 0-)
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    Uttering repeated threats to "do something" without following through is usually called "crying wolf".

    In the case of the Speaker of the House, however, it sounds more 'n more like a case of " the will being there but the FLESH being weak" - or is there another reason why the Speaker of the House goes by the MISnomer, "BONER"?

  •  So sue me! (1+ / 0-)
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    Let's just see how this plays out, either Obama broke the law or he didn't, but being sued should make that clear one way or another.

  •  The embarrassment is all Boehner's (3+ / 0-)
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    The sickening part is that Boehner wants to sue the President just because he's black and a Democrat.  Republicans never got over their loss after their puppet-president installed by the SCOTUS, George Bush, trashed this country and brought us to the very edge  of total  economic ruin.  They were devastated that they couldn't slide Mitt Romney in there to continue to damage and snatch every last job and every last penny from us American citizens.  All their money & lies just couldn't BUY THE PRESIDENCY for Romney or one of their own corrupt people.  They have never stopped being furious.  And they've got the big guns, the KOCH Bros. pouring every possible cent into buying up every election between now and 2016.  They are a pitiful but very corrupt bunch.

  •  Boehner Sues the Prez (2+ / 0-)
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    John Boehner is a pompous buffoon who is totally self-absorbed, and seemingly his only objective is to discredit Obama's presidency. We should be asking Boehner what he has accomplished during his tenure as leader of the House. His answer will be that he has prevented Obama from doing even more to damage the country. But that is total bull and totally negative. Name one positive thing that this arrogant egomaniac has accomplished.

    •  It's funny isn't it? (1+ / 0-)
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      Way back in kindergarten we learned the difference between being a "builder" and being one who "tears things down".

      I'm thinking the GOP Congress critters must have missed kindergarten.

      Or?? ;-)

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      by a gilas girl on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:54:24 PM PDT

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  •  Perhaps.... (1+ / 0-)
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    John Boehner should learn what the 'Constitution' actually says before he spouts off about it.  The referenced linked article there is a quote:

    The legislative branch has an obligation to defend the rights and responsibilities of the American people, and America's constitutional balance of powers -- before it is too late.
    The 'Constitution' in Section 1 on the other hand says:  
    All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
    No where else in either Sections I or II, say anything about defending the rights and responsibility of the American people, it says legislative power and defines how those powers are to be executed.  Something that Boehner and the TP brigade that makes up the raucous part of his majority are won't to do.

    Perhaps he should just legislate as is his obligation under the constitution and what he is getting paid to do and just STFU.

  •  Obama sue me JB!!!! Your grounds ? (4+ / 0-)

    WOW JB what are you going to charge him with?
    Obama has less executive actions then any GOP president in the last 40 yrs.

    The military and the president got Ben Ladin and the Benghazi guy.

    The NYSE has gone from 6800 under bush to now 17,000 that is how the market is measured.

    Of course the USA is now gaining jobs at 220 to 298 k jobs per month in 2014. more then 50 weeks before at an avg of 190k

    Raised the min wages to federal workers and contractors to 10.10 and hour

    HE gave the fine LGBT community the rights not to get fired by being LGBT in federal gov.

    What issue are going to sue Obama on.?  

    Below are links and 25 of the top 50 things president Obama has done.

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    March/ April 2012 Obama’s Top 50 Accomplishments

    1. Passed Health Care Reform: After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014 and mandates a suite of experimental measures to cut health care cost growth, the number one cause of America’s long-term fiscal problems.

    2. Passed the Stimulus: Signed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009 to spur economic growth amid greatest recession since the Great Depression. Weeks after stimulus went into effect, unemployment claims began to subside. Twelve months later, the private sector began producing more jobs than it was losing, and it has continued to do so for twenty-three straight months, creating a total of nearly 3.7 million new private-sector jobs.

    3. Passed Wall Street Reform: Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

    4. Ended the War in Iraq: Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011.

    5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan: From a peak of 101,000 troops in June 2011, U.S. forces are now down to 91,000, with 23,000 slated to leave by the end of summer 2012. According to Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, the combat mission there will be over by next year.

    6. Eliminated Osama bin laden: In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

    7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry: In 2009, injected $62 billion in federal money (on top of $13.4 billion in loans from the Bush administration) into ailing GM and Chrysler in return for equity stakes and agreements for massive restructuring. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades. The government expects to lose $16 billion of its investment, less if the price of the GM stock it still owns increases.

    8. Recapitalized Banks: In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

    9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”: Ended 1990s-era restriction and formalized new policy allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for the first time.

    10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi: In March 2011, joined a coalition of European and Arab governments in military action, including air power and naval blockade, against Gaddafi regime to defend Libyan civilians and support rebel troops. Gaddafi’s forty-two-year rule ended when the dictator was overthrown and killed by rebels on October 20, 2011. No American lives were lost.

    11. Told Mubarak to Go: On February 1, 2011, publicly called on Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to accept reform or step down, thus weakening the dictator’s position and putting America on the right side of the Arab Spring. Mubarak ended thirty-year rule when overthrown on February 11.

    12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies: Two days after taking office, nullified Bush-era rulings that had allowed detainees in U.S. custody to undergo certain “enhanced” interrogation techniques considered inhumane under the Geneva Conventions. Also released the secret Bush legal rulings supporting the use of these techniques.

    13. Improved America’s Image Abroad: With new policies, diplomacy, and rhetoric, reversed a sharp decline in world opinion toward the U.S. (and the corresponding loss of “soft power”) during the Bush years. From 2008 to 2011, favorable opinion toward the United States rose in ten of fifteen countries surveyed by the Pew Global Attitudes Project, with an average increase of 26 percent.

    14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending: As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.

    15. Created Race to the Top: With funds from stimulus, started $4.35 billion program of competitive grants to encourage and reward states for education reform.

    16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards: Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.

    17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis: To keep world economy out of recession in 2009 and 2010, helped secure from G-20 nations more than $500 billion for the IMF to provide lines of credit and other support to emerging market countries, which kept them liquid and avoided crises with their currencies.

    18. Passed Mini Stimuli: To help families hurt by the recession and spur the economy as stimulus spending declined, signed series of measures (July 22, 2010; December 17, 2010; December 23, 2011) to extend unemployment insurance and cut payroll taxes.

    19. Began Asia “Pivot”: In 2011, reoriented American military and diplomatic priorities and focus from the Middle East and Europe to the Asian-Pacific region. Executed multipronged strategy of positively engaging China while reasserting U.S. leadership in the region by increasing American military presence and crafting new commercial, diplomatic, and military alliances with neighboring countries made uncomfortable by recent Chinese behavior.

    20. Increased Support for Veterans: With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.

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    by RSGmusic on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 02:12:41 PM PDT

  •  The Only "American people & their representatives" (2+ / 0-)
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    that the President has circumvented are the blinded-by-loathing minority of the minority who are hell-bent on holding everyone else’s breath until they get what they want, and the only thing the President has flippantly dismissed is the spineless, weeping, tower of orange jell-o that we call “Speaker of the House”.

    The majority of the country would like to see this President get whatever he can get done on the list of reasons that we voted him into office twice.

  •  Ah actually... (0+ / 0-)

    Not red faced, orange faced...

  •  Boehner needs to get a move on (1+ / 0-)
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    both legislatively and personally. He obviously is a sloth- look at that belly.

  •  Uh...Speaker Benhur, didn't you notice that (1+ / 0-)
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    your own House has failed to do THEIR job . . . like passing budgets, raising the debt ceiling, the transportation bill, solving problems, etc., like every House before YOURS did without any excuses or finger pointing!?!  Seems that if someone should be sued for ignoring the laws, and not doing the job they were hired to do, it should be YOU!  My mother would have said that's the pot calling the kettle black.

  •  And this despite the Boehner Republican't (1+ / 0-)
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    subversions of the Constitution -- shutting down the gov't -- instead of producing "Jobs" bills for the President to sign:

    And by the way, in case Boehner wants to know where the jobs are ... last Thursday we got the answer: Jobs are coming back. Job growth in the first half of 2014 has been the strongest it's been since 1999.

    This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

    by JJustin on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:22:09 PM PDT

  •  Nice picture (1+ / 0-)
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    of someone who does very little. I'll bet he hasn't had a callous on his hand since he reached puberty. (if you get my drift) Nice clean white clothes, a do nothing job that pays very well with benefits along with a revolving door job of lobbyist when it's' over and all the time in the world to play a lousy game of golf.

  •  Boehner (1+ / 0-)
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    It's humorous hearing Boehner talking about anything being beneath the dignity of his office. Boehner has always been a bottom feeder and with the tea party he has sunk even lower.

  •  Tea Party (2+ / 0-)
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    Bet the Tea Party is upset each month when job numbers go up and unemployment rate goes down.  They don't care about America.  They just don't like Obama.  God bless our great President Obama.

  •  That he was able to deliver (2+ / 0-)
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    such a patently fake position of self-righteous indignation is a credit to his acting skills.

    The hyperbole involved has to be on a level with Limpbow, though.

  •  "What's disappointing is.... (2+ / 0-)
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    ....the President's flippant dismissal of the Constitution we are both sworn to defend. It is utterly beneath the dignity of the office."

    Uh, no John, he was flippantly dismissing YOU.

  •  I am so sick of Boehner (2+ / 0-)
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    What bothers me most about Boehner and the GOP House, and Senators for that matter, is how utterly stupid they are.  I don't know how many times I've seen JB on the news bloviating about how the President won't work with them.  They were all voted in by small percentages of people from their small gerry mandered districts.  President Obama was elected by a majority of the entire country.  Who gives a @&%$ what their handful of constituents who actually go to their town halls when they are in town are demanding.  Boehner is an idiot, and he drinks to much. He needs to work with President Obama not the other way around.  Can you only imagine the epic tantrums that a GOP President would be having if this was all reversed? So he's going to sue how brilliant Mr. Speaker, how about put down the scotch, tune out the crazies and work with the President, the one who we all elected!

    •  That is a subject line... (1+ / 0-)
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      I can truly appreciate.

      I'm sick of him, too.  Even sicker of folks who have so little sense of how the system of government is supposed to work that they actively set about to make sure it doesn't work.

      All because: temper tantrums.

      Governance by 5 year olds.

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      by a gilas girl on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 05:25:48 PM PDT

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  •  America has fallen so far.... (2+ / 0-)
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    Remember the days of the three network broadcast world when the POTUS could interrupt most households and talk to "the" people--be it lies or the truth--and it meant something one way or the other. This would be the time for President Obama to have that kind of reach and call out an American identity crisis brought on by villains within this country tearing it from a civilized representative democracy where we abide by the outcomes of election in relative peace to Cold Civil War where gun nuts call for revolution and elected officials call them patriots instead of the dangerous zealots they are.

    I'm all for "progress" but progress seems to be only the Democratic party's cross to bear. We put the first female Speaker of the House in and there was Pelosi hate in political ads in 2010 the likes of which I had never before seen.  We put up the first black man as POTUS and even voted him in a second time but he  is probably just wrong for the times in that he keeps faith that republicans are "gonna come around" when there has been all manner of criminal extortion to push out the moderates--the real republicans who played democracy fairly--and replace them with radical and dangerous nut bags who are not even qualified to legislate in a time when we have fallen to a debtor nation and the opinions of those we owe matters.

    We need a POTUS who should be using the law to the fullest to get the influence of people like Grover Norquist, the Kochs and that absolute douche bag Dick Cheney, who should not only have stood trial for the war(s) in Iraq but for being the first executive to validate a criminal like Norquist by putting the cost of the war on the deficit instead of raising taxes or w/e to pay for it. Cheney validated Norquist and Obama has swallowed it as if the republicans can just move the line between crime and politics at will without consequence much less democratic discourse.

    It is not too late. Just get a few networks, interrupt them, tell the viewers this is what we're gonna have to do and then sick the dogs of justice on arch republican criminals like it's life or death. You know why? Because this country it might jut be life or death.

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    by RareBird0 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:13:02 PM PDT

  •  Beohner perfectly personifies that old adage (2+ / 0-)
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    about "Give a man enough rope and he'll hang himself". Oh and BTW, I can't believe there is even ONE person in the background of this photo who is ignorant enough to stand around and watch him play his very mediocre golf game. Maybe they're some of B's minions and they were ordered to show up or they'd lose their jobs.

  •  Congress now has 7% approval rating. It has ser... (2+ / 0-)
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    Congress now has 7% approval rating. It has seriously damaged our nation. Can speaker of the house be impeached?

  •  I anticipate the Speaker as spokesman for absin... (0+ / 0-)

    I anticipate the Speaker as spokesman for absinthe.

  •  If the House actually accomplished something posit (1+ / 0-)
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    then the President wouldn't have to legislate without you. When you House republicans retire you can all get other jobs as Jersey Barriers.
    Damn glad we elected Obama and not Romney.

  •  "So sue me" (2+ / 0-)
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    Johnny, where are the jobs you and your ilk should have been pushing for in Congress instead of wasting this countries money and time. Go home John Boehner and give back all the money you have recieved while in Congress. You are useless.

  •  When the shoe is on the other foot (1+ / 0-)
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    it often pinches, as my mother used to say.

  •  Boehner, bring it on! (2+ / 0-)
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    President Obama will brush it off like bad Boehner dandruff.

  •  I've never seen anyone (2+ / 0-)
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    use the expression ..."the American people..." as much as Boehner.  But everything he blocks and stands for goes against the will of "the American people."  Yet like Fox newsbots are the only ones listening, he keeps throwing that expression out there ad nauseam.  I really feel that this man is as stupid as the party that supports him.

  •  While watching the Gold Cup game today... (2+ / 0-)
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    between Germany and Brazil, something occurred to me.
    Seems that Germany is doing pretty well and progressing because of their getting rid of the Nazi party within their country. But here in the United States, it seems that our civil war didn't do us much good, with the fact that we still have the Dixie Confederate party (the Tea Party) waving their Dixie flags, belching out their racism and bigotry and declaring their desire to secede from the union.

    Nixon used them like farm tools with his, "Southern Strategy," no different from how Hitler used the uninformed "Good Germans." Those like John Boehner are doing the same exact thing, using the ignorant Dixie trash in order to accomplish dragging the U.S. into a fascist slave driving oligarchy.

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    by JohnnieZ on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:27:38 PM PDT

  •  Red-faced, ey? So, Johnny B, trying to tell us ... (0+ / 0-)

    Red-faced, ey? So, Johnny B, trying to tell us red is the new orange...

  •  LOL! Pot meet kettle. (0+ / 0-)

    Impeach them both for the right reasons, not for the delusions that the Republicans offer.

    "The owners of this country know the truth: its called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it." ~ George Carlin

    by Gregory Wonderwheel on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 07:23:58 PM PDT

  •  Frivolous lawsuit (2+ / 0-)
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    Boner's every utterance is full of lies.  The president has proposed infrastructure and jobs legislation.  The Tea Baggers have killed it.  

    Boner refuses to bring legislation, like immigration reform, to the floor, despite the fact that in some version, it would probably pass... or it would have when it was first proposed.  

    The made-up Hastert rule is a de facto filibuster, which has no place in the people's chamber.  I don't care which party is in power, it is total nonsense.  

    The Republican leadership in the House is who should be on trial, not in the courts, but in their districts.  They must be from some pretty insane parts of the country for anyone to stand for the kind of inaction and obstruction that they have inflicted on this country.  

  •  Impeach SCOTUS in response to lawsuit (2+ / 0-)
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    The five male Catholic jurists of SCOTUS have put the religious rights of a non-human thing above the rights of their female employees, choosing THEOCRATIC TYRANNY over Democracy.  Surely there's some legal ground for impeachment in that denial of equal right of freedom of religion -- since freedom of religion MUST include freedom from religion..    

  •  Boehner: "Whaddaya mean ... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... we can't charge him with 'Uppity'?"

    OF COURSE the New Right is wrong - but that doesn't make WRONG the new RIGHT!

    by mstaggerlee on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 09:05:52 PM PDT

  •  One... (1+ / 0-)
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    About the President "ignoring the will of the people."

    What about Congress, House and Senate, Republicans and Democrats (ALL Republicans and far too many Democrats) ignoring the will of 80-90% (depending on which poll) of people, including gun owners, who want rational, universal, gun regulations. Just weeks after Sandy Hook Elementary lost 20 first graders and 6 educators, they voted down ANY additional regulation.

    About businesses worrying about jobs and being able to plan for the future.

    When will the House put up or shut up? There's plenty of time to vote, what 35 or more times, to repeal the ADA, but no rational budget (rational and Paul Ryan are mutually exclusive). No jobs bill, no alternative to ADA, and, now that they have done it twice (first time under Clinton), the possibility of shutting down the Federal government. Even changing rules has to be better than none when it comes to jobs, the economy, and business.

    Instead of addressing members of Congress as "the Honorable..." we can address the GOP/Tea Party members as "the Hypocritical..."

  •  Ohhhh Boehner (1+ / 0-)
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    STFU already!  Where was all your whining and threats of suing "W" when he exercised his executive privilage.

    The Tea Bagger/Birther/republican/GOP is BAD for America!

  •  Wouldn't that be "orange faced" ? (0+ / 0-)

    And was the speaker out on a golf course because he thought he might actually speak with the president there , since, "the president is always on the golf course" etc etc etc?
    Personally, I'm wondering if the speaker would like to compare hours on the golf course of his own, vs the President's time on the course.

  •  Boehner is Pinocchio (1+ / 0-)
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    Like the rest of the Republicans Boehner wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on his orange butt. He didn't have a problem with Bush's 291 executive orders, the republicans didn't threaten to sue Bush43 (the Dunce President) when he was circumventing Congress and the Senate.  

    The Republicans are sore losers.  The kind of "kids" that would show up at their high school locked and loaded and ready to shoot into the crowd because they didn't get their way...their way as we've seen is the only way other wise they piss, moan, cry and whine like grade school children.

    Impeach Boehner, he hasn't earned his salary once since he's been in office and neither has the rest of the Republican congress.  

    I hope Obama keeps writing those executive orders since the Republicans are dug in like beaten mules refusing to work for a living.

  •  John Boehner suing Obama (0+ / 0-)

    He got some darn nerve ! Is this nut kidding me ! The judge should lock him the hell up and all them other republicans in them chairs ! People have lost there homes and cars and bill was not getting paid so he got a nerve to take someone to court with they greedy ass .Lord forgive me but my blood is boilding and this nut got a nerve to be taking the president to court .As a matter a fact all the hell of them should be lock up both parties because all of them lie , cheat , rob, greedy , wicket and not due to be trusted . The all not you not what ! These white people take me out !!!! He is mad because Obama is bring them tropps back home a war that the no brain nut of a so call president that was in there started that had nothing to do with are country ! That was was started so they could really still . Ome thing about white forlk !!! They will kill there own mother for a penny and that is the truth .I am not talking about all of them but most of them ! When it come to money they will sale there mother and that is sad to  say but it is for real ! No one esle is suppose to have nothing or live but them !!!!! And they want to no why Black people still fell some way all these years ! They been robbing us all are life .As a matter fact they been robbing each other that how greedy there can be and that is sad . And he got some nerve to be taking  Obama to court when he have just about kill people when he stop there living ! I say to my self all the time where is GOD in the mist of this hell down here !!!!!!!!!! If anyone need to be lock up is that joker ! The so call GOVERMENT that got out of POCKET .But that is are fault we let them years after years ! The last GOOd PRESIDENT we HAD LAST WAS " CLINTON " ! I voted for Obama twice and I hated that I did never ever again ! I wont never ever voted again and I mean that ! All you voting for is for them to take care of criminals and them self with are money ! How and the hell you dont do for the people who made  the money not criminals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are they hell Backwards !!! Let criminals voted for there dum you no what !!!!!!!!!!!

  •  What is disappointing is the speaker's failure ... (0+ / 0-)

    What is disappointing is the speaker's failure to understand that the president has a great deal of discretion in deciding when and how to carry out that enforcement. In fact he has a great deal of discretion in carrying out all of his duties. As per the decision of the court the last time a president was sued.

    Which is probably why the speaker isn't carrying through on his tirades. He can't be sure that the court won't follow precedent and side with the president.

  •  Oh, Right, It's About Jobs (1+ / 0-)
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    The topic the House GOP loves to bleat about, and always lays at the president's feet--the grand failure on jobs.

    Yet anybody who has paid the slightest attention over the past 5 years will know that every single solitary job stimulus bill and package the president has proposed has been the House GOP.  It must be ever so much fun to screw the country repeatedly and then blame the other guy for shortcomings you've ensured.

    Boehner's a two-faced jackal.

  •  Boner has an incredibly convenient and pedantic... (0+ / 0-)

    Boner has an incredibly convenient and pedantic memory.

    Did he forget that he violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment when he committed insurrection and rebellion against the US Constitution when he voted to pass the NDAA ("Patriot" Act on PCP) AND the Monsanto Protection Act (2012 HR 933 Section 735)which fiat law directs the Secretary of Agriculture to violate the Rule of Law, and Judicial Oversight?

    Go ahead Boner... sue. You WILL NOT like the very predictable results of your precedent, and neither will your Corporate Bribers!!!

    PLEASE DO IT! This will give We The People everything we need to rid OUR Congress of the 535 bribed into treason by corporations Congresscritters.

    Do it... I DARE YOU!!!

  •  John Boehner delivers red-faced response to presid (0+ / 0-)








  •  Boehner has... (0+ / 0-)


    All he has is STUNTS to pull.

    He is no better than all the rest of the Republican lackeys who are making America suffer because they hate Barak Obama.

    They just can't get over it: an intelligent man (who just happens to be part African-American in origin) who THINKS about what is best for the NATION as a whole, and acts in the overall best interests of that nation on a consistent basis.

  •  Boehner - Executive Order Absurdity (0+ / 0-)

    If John Boehner the blockhead, would do his homework he would be red-faced because of his stupidity in addition to his fondness for lying and his consistent practice of blocking anything proposed by the President or Democrats in the House. Here is a link to Executive Orders from Barack Obama and every President going back to George Washington. Obama is hardly out of line with his predecessors.

  •  THE USA is in decline for a reason (0+ / 0-)

    this man (John Boehner) and every man like him since the BNA Civil War, (British North America) is the reason why ...Canada exists...
    your country (United States) is a propaganda machine and a LIE and we in the North have known it since your creation...

    When the world needed you most you sat back and profited
    ...not once but twice...
    World War I  (1914-1918) &
    World War II (1939-1945)
    Meanwhile, millions died because you waited & profited on the death of others... and to this day you all only know it from

    Some times, the people of the U.S. "ARE" a great people!
    but at all times the U.S. is a failed political machination.

    I'm so disgusted with your right wing freak show right now, its time for you all to JUST go away... we real people fought facism at GREAT cost 70 years ago... and you all are determined to bring it back...

    FOOLS arrogant little... FOOLS
    be gone, the world is be better off without you.

    "Which is better - to be ruled by one tyrant three thousand miles away or by three thousand tyrants one mile away?"
    --- Mather Byles ---
    (born 26 March 1706, Boston, Massachusetts – died 5 July 1788)
  •  isn't it time to end America's contract (0+ / 0-)

    with John Boehner...?

    haven't you all had enough of this nasty individual's nastiness toward you all?

  •  If..... (0+ / 0-)

    ...... you actually sit down with a printed transcript of any of Boehner's comments and a black marker pen. Then use the marker pen to black out the verbage; pomposity; irrelevant comments and outright lies; after you have finished you would be left with "The", "and", "with", and "President Obama".

    Boner is completely incapable of speaking truthfully. Just another RWNJ.

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