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Joni Ernst and Sarah Palin
Joni Ernst actually beat Sarah Palin to the punch
Before there was Sarah Palin, there was Joni Ernst, the GOP nominee for U.S. Senate in Iowa:
At a Montgomery County, Iowa, candidate forum in January, Ernst told a crowd that she believed Obama had “become a dictator” and that he needed to face the consequences for his executive actions, “whether that’s removal from office, whether that’s impeachment.”
Ernst's comments come by way of a newly posted video of Ernst at the candidate forum and were reported on Yahoo News. Her remarks came in response to a question about whether President Obama should face "punishment" if the Supreme Court ruled against him on on recess appointments. Among other things, she said:
I do think that yes, he should face those repercussions, and whether that's removal from office, whether that's impeachment.
The Ernst campaign response to her remarks was a pretty lame dodge:
If any president oversteps their bounds, there are procedures in place for Congress and the American people to hold him or her accountable. Impeachment is a strong word and should not be thrown around lightly.
Fine, but Ernst wasn't talking in general, she was talking specifically about President Obama. She claimed that "he has become a dictator." She said he should face impeachment if the Supreme Court ruled against his interpretation of his appointment powers. That may be a ridiculous position, but unless her campaign meant their statement as an attack on their candidate, she didn't throw the word impeachment around lightly: She meant it.

And now, as a the GOP nominee for U.S. Senate, she should defend it—or at least admit that she was engaged in a craven pander to the tea party freak show. Either way, one thing she's making clear is this: Todd Akin and Christine O'Donnell and Ken Buck and Sharon Angle and Richard Mourdock weren't accidents. Republicans these days are a freak show—and so are their nominees.

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  •  The I word Seems to have been a hurled (4+ / 0-)

    vs a light toss

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:34:59 PM PDT

    •  I don't think this will hurt her. (2+ / 0-)
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      JML9999, chrismorgan

      If the republicans take the senate, I'd say there was a very high probability of impeachment hearings. The last time they did that, they were rewarded with 8 years with their man in the White House.

      I would consider this more a warning than anything else.

  •  And I find it hard to believe a majority of Iowans (3+ / 0-)

    are fans of impeachment. Looks like Joni shouldn't have given Iowa a try (even if she is contrary).

  •  Well, I'm surprised she didn't call for his (13+ / 0-)

    castration, given her media strategy.

    I live in Iowa.  Sigh.

    "The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.”" -- Paul Dirac

    by Rikon Snow on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:36:26 PM PDT

    •  She's over the top but it might sell (3+ / 0-)
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      Rikon Snow, Victor Ward, Patango

      I get down there a lot and Braley comes off as totally clueless.  Democrats need to get him some help with his media.  Talk to Franken.  His ads seem to be hitting the mark of competently progressive.  But I don't know who Braley is targeting.  People who just love attorneys?  

      •  Yeah. I haven't been impressed with Braley. (2+ / 0-)
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        Victor Ward, greenbell

        I'll vote for him, of course, but . . . just like everywhere else, it's GOTV.  She could win.  Braley does not inspire.

        "The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.”" -- Paul Dirac

        by Rikon Snow on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:53:12 PM PDT

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        •  And I don't know why folks like Branstad (2+ / 0-)
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          but he seems to be getting more credit for the economy down there than Obama.

          •  greenbell (0+ / 0-)
            Branstad but he seems to be getting more credit for the economy
            People here still think " split gov " is a wise thing , so Braindead is "good" sense Obama is in office  , a lot of people have not figured out the GOP have went RICK PERRY , it may take another generation before voters catch on

            The dems also had the governors office for 3 consecutive terms before the GOP took over

            Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers

            by Patango on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:37:07 PM PDT

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      •  I think you're right. (1+ / 0-)
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        She comes off far more likeable and charismatic than Braley, no matter what seems to be coming out of her mouth.

      •  It will sell because the base loves that kind of (2+ / 0-)
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        chrismorgan, seasidesally

        tough talk.  Anti-intellectual bluster, gunslinger threats and swaggering are the only things Rs have to sell any more.

        Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

        by hawkseye on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:08:08 PM PDT

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      •  Iowa here , nice 2 see you greenbell (2+ / 0-)
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        TofG, i saw an old tree today

        Ernst is not going to sell here tho , this is not the only documentation of Ernst going full blown t bagger , it is impossible for her to walk her big mouth back now , her only prayer is to avoid everyone but FOX , and refuse to debate , her other option is to get busted flat out lying till Nov , and Iowa voters will not buy that either

        Agreed about Braley , he must be listening to " inside the DC bubble " consultants , him and the PAC's are running negative ads , and he disappeared like Al Gore 1999 so far

        We are a 50/50 state tho , he has to appeal to conservatives in some way  , he 1st took office by running on a "stronger federal immigration policies" and keeping jobs in America , he should be able to cream Ernst on those issues

        Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers

        by Patango on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:13:39 PM PDT

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    •  LOL! Took the words out of my mouth. (1+ / 0-)
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      Victor Ward

      Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

      by hawkseye on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:59:01 PM PDT

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  •  This will be the Tea Bag drumbeat (3+ / 0-)
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    blueyedace2, Victor Ward, Gurnt

    for November 2014.

    Hold on to the House, take the Senate, and we'll see who really has the spine to do it.

    "The truest measure of compassion lies not in our service of those on the margins, but in our willingness to see ourselves in kinship with them." Father Gregory Boyle, Homeboy Industries

    by Mr MadAsHell on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:37:03 PM PDT

  •  a party that (13+ / 0-)

    acts like a dictatorship suppresses the voting rights of citizens, there is only one party in this  supposed democracy that does that and it isn't the dem party.

  •  You Go Girl !!! (26+ / 0-)

    And while we're putting that commie Obama in his place, here's some other stuff we need to impeach him for:

    * Ignoring a Presidential Daily Brief and failing to stop the worst terrorist attack in American history.
    * Sending us into a war in the Middle East based on phony intelligence.
    * Sanctioning torture.
    * Standing by why White House operatives blew the cover of a CIA officer as political payback.
    * Having his Attorney General fire United States Attorneys simply because they were appointed by Democrats.
    * Doing nothing for three days while New Orleans was under water and local citizens were fighting for their lives.
    * Having his political operatives trash the service record of a decorated combat veteran.
    * Tanking the entire world economy, leading to a 5,000-point drop in the Dow Jones and wiping out one-third of the country's net worth.

    Oh shit. My bad. That was your guy.

    They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time. -- Brian Fantana

    by IndyScott on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:41:53 PM PDT

  •  We really should be so lucky (9+ / 0-)

    That limb that the GOP is out on is thin and it is creaking. One more step toward impeachment, please.... just step one more inch or two out on that limb.........

    Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

    by The Termite on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:46:55 PM PDT

    •  You're right, but if you look closer, the GOP is (2+ / 0-)
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      Gurnt, TofG

      impatient with the thinness and the creaking of the limb.  They took a saw with them and are about to use it.

      Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

      by hawkseye on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:10:57 PM PDT

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    •  I think it's becoming unstoppable, they don't have (1+ / 0-)
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      the self control or discipline to stop themselves from attempting to impeach him.  They are slaves to their baser instincts, they are going to do attempt it, the snowball has started, there's no stopping it now.  The only question is will they attempt it before or after the mid terms?

      Imagine the most profound idea ever conceptualized occupying this space. Now expect exactly the opposite. You'll never be disappointed.

      by Gurnt on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:25:48 PM PDT

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      •  They're most certainly looking for cause (0+ / 0-)

        But what will they finally settle on?

        I really hope it's something as chowderheaded as executive orders.

        Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

        by The Termite on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:39:57 PM PDT

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      •  Hate-addicts. They have to have a new, bigger fix (1+ / 0-)
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        against BO.  Impeachment is their ultimate delusive high.  

        The 'establishment' will not be able to stop them.  

        Then, when it loses, they will pivot to 'HRC is BO's 3rd term, vote for me and History will finally see what a [insert bigoted delusion]!'

        Yeah, I'm looking at you, Calgary.  

  •  What she really is saying (8+ / 0-)

    is that she has nothing new or constructive to offer.


    If you can't fix stupid does that mean the Republican party will always be broken?

    by gypsyrose on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:47:11 PM PDT

  •  Honest question (8+ / 0-)

      Has Obama done anything that's unprecedented in the history of the executive office? I'm trying to figure out, exactly, where this "dictator" silliness is coming from.

    "Le ciel est bleu, l'enfer est rouge."

    by Buzzer on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:47:12 PM PDT

  •  She is right, Obama should be impeached (3+ / 0-)
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    TofG, blueyedace2, mjd in florida

    unlike the GOOPERs, the Kenyan Muslim Terrorist refused to swear allegiance to the Nawab of the GOP, Grover Norquist -- a lobbyist for Islamic nations and married to a Muslim (which makes him a Muslim).

    Bush/Cheney/Palin/Scalia/Thomas all agreed that the respecting the territorial integrity of Pakistan is the most sacred of all Presidential obligations. Bush/Cheney dared not enter Pakistan to capture Osama Bin Laden for fear of violating the most sacred of Commandments.

    The Kenyan Muslim Terrorist showed no regard for this Commandment and entered Pakistan (much to the chagrin of Sheikh Grover) and killed OBL.  

    For GOOPERs, that is the most impeachable of all offenses.

  •  Impeachment (10+ / 0-)
    is a strong word and should not be thrown around lightly.
    "'Dictator', however" she continued, "doesn't really mean much and can be tossed around lightly.  Hitler, Mussolini: dictators, democrats, whatever".

    "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

    by Calvino Partigiani on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:49:14 PM PDT

  •  Could be worse. (1+ / 0-)
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    Could have called for castration. Don't know what the constitutional threshold is for that.

  •  Tell me that photograph isn't photoshopped. Two (1+ / 0-)
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    Bad Ass Biker

    mama grizzlies calling for impeachment, one a failed governor, the other a soon to be failed senate candidate.

  •  It's high time these blowhards put up or stfu. (2+ / 0-)
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    Patango, chrismorgan

    Go ahead, you gooper chickenshits, try impeaching PBO, I double dare you... you talk the talk, but you don't have the guts to walk the walk...

    I ride the wild horse .

    by BelgianBastard on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:53:45 PM PDT

  •  I'm just incensed over all these (0+ / 0-)

    the clown here in Nebraska who put an zombie Obama figure next to an outhouse labeled "Obama's Library" as part of a 4th of July float.  He's now claiming the zombie was himself.

    "Forever is composed of nows." Emily Dickinson

    by Leftovers on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:53:54 PM PDT

  •  If there is any question as to whether Republicans (4+ / 0-)

    Understand English;
    Speak a common language;
    Inhabit the same planet;
    Share the same cultural beliefs;
    Believe in Representative Democracy;

    Listening to almost any one of their candidates behind closed doors, talking to their true believers, would shatter almost every one of these beliefs.  Republicans wave the flag and praise the veterans, but they never volunteer for service.  Republicans praise the benefits of the American benefits and salute the Statue of Liberty, but they want to close the doors to immigration.  Republicans are all about apple pie, but none of them want to pay taxes to pave the roads, repair the bridges, build the schools and pay the teachers.  It's all a sham for Republicans.  Republicans love Reagan and they love Potemkin villages, but they hate they hate the nuts and bolts of democracy.  It's all about them and their golf courses.

    If Money is Speech, Speech isn't Free! I wonder what it is about that that Antonin Scalia cannot understand?

    by NM Ray on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 03:55:36 PM PDT

  •  Surprised? (5+ / 0-)

    Yet another major Republican political candidate where the line between "brain damaged" and "lunatic" is so blurred that it is impossible to really tell.  

  •  I can handle a difference of opinion (5+ / 0-)

    I can't handle a difference of reality.

    I am so sick of  the politics of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. That's all these lunatics do.

    Dictator? Worst ever. Where are the mass arrests of dissenters, rounding up and imprisonment of political prisoners, seizure of property, nationalization of media and financial institutions etc. etc.

    These are not the droids you were looking for.

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:02:35 PM PDT

  •  SHE PAC - heels on, gloves off...oh brother. (2+ / 0-)
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    BelgianBastard, jessbell911

    The Church of glb3, Inc., your sins are my salvation.

    by glb3 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:05:26 PM PDT

  •  Democrats never miss an opportunity (0+ / 0-)

    to miss an opportunity.

    I hope they don't blow it here by overplaying their own impeachment card too far out from election day.

    They blew it in MS when they gave Cochran the margin of victory and let slip away a chance to pick up that solidly red senate seat by defeating McDaniel.

    •  I'm not sure you're right about that... (1+ / 0-)
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      mjd in florida

      I think McDaniel would have won handily (barring some really, really in(s)ane revelations), this way there might be a real civil war in tge GOP, and Childers might make an ebd run and win. But even with a McDaniel write-in campaign, it's still a very long shot.

      I ride the wild horse .

      by BelgianBastard on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:22:27 PM PDT

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      •  Write-ins don't count in Mississippi (1+ / 0-)
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        and any "independent" run is past its signup date.

        It's vote for Childers or don't vote in the Senate race in MS with the Tea Party to teach the GOP establishment (mainly Cochran, Barbour and McConnell) that they will no longer be their pawns and they're livid that these "establishment elite" called them racists.

  •  Any person running for office, calling to impeach (6+ / 0-)

    the President over a disagreement about recess appointments or doesn't distance herself from a lackey voicing her reason to impeach of the day is unfit for office.  That person clearly does NOT understand the Constitution, places partisan views over the good of the country and ...well I can't say the rest in polite company.

    If I were in Iowa I would say a vote for Ernst is a vote to impeach the President.  Now some yahoos would love that, but I sincerely doubt the general electorate is for that.  Hence the reason her team is trying to walk it back.  Channeling Boehner I say, "Hell no!"  That's her position let her own it all the way to the election.  Matter of fact, every time these people say something nutty make them own it.  I heard what she said.  You know what she said.  We don;t need to call her PR team for an explanation.  We all understand English.  Put it in the blogs, magazines, newspapers: Jodi Ernst wants to impeach the President over a court decision.  LOL If that's the case a lot of people in Washington are going to lose their jobs.

    We do not have time for the nonsense she would bring to the Senate.  No, no time for crazy.

  •  Please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh (3+ / 0-)
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    please GOP, please attempt to impeach Obama! Please do it now, going into the mid-terms. Please!!!

    Trust me. It's a brilliant strategy. Go for it. I'm telling you, trust your instincts. They NEVER fail you, right?

    Why would I lie to you?

    Imagine the most profound idea ever conceptualized occupying this space. Now expect exactly the opposite. You'll never be disappointed.

    by Gurnt on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 04:20:38 PM PDT

  •  That's why they need to suppress the vote (1+ / 0-)
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    Because we keep electing dictators and then the dictators are term-limited and we have to elect new dictators.

  •  Impeachment? (0+ / 0-)

    Let's call it what it is: these people are just a bunch of uneducated, ignorant racist rednecks, plain and simple.
    They cannot seem to make up their minds. First they say the president is weak. Then they say he is a tyrant. First they call him a socialist. Then they call him a fascist. Now they want to impeach him for doing what he is supposed to do, because the congress doesn't want to do ANYTHING.

    Growing up, I always knew what would bring this country down: Racism. Plain and simple.

    I don't agree with Obama on most things. Many times, he infuriates me. But he IS the president of the United States, elected by the people TWICE. His views occasionally are to the right of Nixon; he's actually republican-lite. But that's not enough for the illiterati. Because deep down inside their hateful souls, inside their reptilian brains, they cannot face up to the fact that a black man has been elected President of the United States. Twice. It upsets their very racist core. They cry, "I want my country back!", and they fail to realize that they never lost it to Obama. They lost it to the 1% since the days of Ronnie Ray-gun. Instead of trying to make this a better place to live and cooperating with the president, they try to deny the results of 2 national elections, first by obstructing everything he's trying to do, and second by attempting to impeach him. FOR DOING HIS GODDAMN JOB.

    All of this is driven by the 1%. They figure that the only way they can stay on top economically is to exploit the hatred and racism of the illiterati to vote them into power, to hold back all the "libruls, gays,dark people and uppity women". It's a shell game, because even though these ignorant rednecks are getting economically ass-raped by the 1%, these ignorant souls are getting exploited by the same people they serve. It's a sick game. And it takes a person of incredible low intelligence to even play this game. They watch Fox News like it's their drug, and they listen to people like Rick Perry and Sarah Palin, some stupid twat that doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground.

    Over the past couple of years, we have heard that the GOP is on the way out. That the changing demographics of this nation will render the GOP obsolete. I truly fucking hope so. The Dems are not angels, but they are a hell of a lot better than what's on the other side.

  •  They got nothing to use. (0+ / 0-)

    …and they know it. Impeachment is only the soup de jour of the moment.
    The only reason why it's mentioned so much right now is, I think, is due to this being the 6th year of a Presidency. Things always go sour for a 2-term President in the 6th year, and Clinton's failed impeachment is very strong on the minds of the far right.

    They have nothing to use, of course, and they know it. But the word keeps the base inflamed, as it's still an effective dog whistle.

    I think even the wing nuts are leery of actually following through with an attempt this time. Newt Gingrich is still around as a reminder of what happened to their leadership last time.
    Once the election is over, I expect that talk of impeachment will join all the other crap, something to be lobbed once in a while if something newer fails to stick.

    Right many are called, and damn few are chosen.

    by Idaho07 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 06:02:17 PM PDT

  •  Like Palin, Ernst can identify no law PBO has v... (0+ / 0-)

    Like Palin, Ernst can identify no law PBO has violated that is grounds for impeachment!

  •  the house can impeach, but the senate will fail to (0+ / 0-)

    convict and remove obama, the Rs gaining a majority in the Senate- which i doubt they will get in any event- wont be need 67 senators to remove a President, and Obama hasnt done anything warranting being kicked out of office.

  •  "Are you for impeaching the President?" is the (0+ / 0-)

    question that every Democratic candidate for Congress should demand his/her opponent answer.  If they say yes, it hurts them because the public has no patience for impeachment.  If they say no, it hurts them with their base because their base is salivating for impeachment for whatever reason, no matter how illegitimate that reason is.

  •  It figures Palin would wear an Iowa State (0+ / 0-)

    shirt. Reason number 1001 why it should be back to Iowa State College and in D-II athletics, moo freeking U.
    Hawks rule, clones drool.

    WTF!?!?!?! When did I move to the Republic of Gilead?!

    by IARXPHD on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 09:01:09 PM PDT

    •  Go Hawks! (1+ / 0-)
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      My son is in HMB, which is almost like being famous around here.  Not that I'm a proud mom or anything.

      "So oftentimes it happens that we live our lives in chains, and we never even know we have the key." --Robb Strandlund and Jack Tempchin

      by Celestia89 on Tue Jul 08, 2014 at 10:00:49 PM PDT

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    •  let's save our in-state rivarly (1+ / 0-)
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      for football

      we need to unite. ISU is the eastern edge of King's new district (well, new since 2012) and, last I looked, those ISU students can help 2 ways:

      1. make sure the loony Ernst isn't a senator
      2. help King head back to the corner of the state he sprung from (sorry, the rest of you will have to find another fringe lunatic rep to make fun of. I'm tired of being laughed at)

      see you in September on the gridiron....

  •  Why oh why oh why oh why would anybody do that? (0+ / 0-)

    Let's see --

    Lame duck with 2 and a half years to go.

    Best case -- absolutely best case if Obama were to be impeached -- is that the President would no longer a lame duck and President Biden goes into 2016 as the incumbent.

    Bad news for Hillary, who might decide to run anyway, but worse news for the GOP.

    That's not going to happen, of course.  Even if the House were miraculously able to impeach, the Senate would never remove the President from office,so...

    all an GOPer can do by calling for impeachment is say:

    "Look at me, I'm fiddle-dee-dee, wasting our time on what can't be"


    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Wed Jul 09, 2014 at 05:18:02 AM PDT

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