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Republicans, still flailing in their efforts to come up with their own healthcare plan, are also going to be flailing when it comes to finding a coherent argument for getting rid of Obamacare in the first place. Their arguments against the law keep being shot down by the reality of its successes. Here's another success: There are 9.5 million fewer uninsured people now, according to a new Commonwealth Fund study.
According to the survey, the proportion of working-aged adults without insurance dropped from 20 percent in the late summer of 2013 to 15 percent in the late spring of 2014, a period that corresponds roughly to the beginning and end of open enrollment in the Affordable Care Act’s marketplaces. To put that in more concrete terms, there are still a lot of Americans walking around without health insurance today. But there are about 9.5 million fewer of them than there were last fall, almost certainly because so many people have enrolled in the newly expanded Medicaid program or purchased subsidized insurance through the Obamacare marketplaces.
In January, 20 percent of the population under age 65 was uninsured. Now it's 15 percent. So, sorry, Republicans, the law is helping people who were uninsured. But here's another killing data point for their arguments—people who got this new insurance really like it. Even Republicans.
What was more surprising is that people who got the new coverage were generally happy with the product. Overall, 73 percent of people who bought health plans and 87 percent of those who signed up for Medicaid said they were somewhat or very satisfied with their new health insurance. Seventy-four percent of newly insured Republicans liked their plans. Even 77 percent of people who had insurance before—including members of the much-publicized group whose plans got canceled last year—were happy with their new coverage.
Damn, that's impressive, particularly when considering that most of those people have actually used their insurance and it's working for them. About 60 percent of them have been to the doctor alreadyor gotten a prescription with their insurance. In this group, 60 percent say they wouldn't have been able to afford this care if they didn't have their new insurance. No wonder they're happy with it.

That's a lot happily insured people—a lot of people who would be very, very unhappy to see it all taken away by Republicans. So good luck with that one in November, GOP.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 08:16 AM PDT.

Also republished by Obamacare Saves Lives and Daily Kos.

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  •  The problem the GOP has with the ACA (31+ / 0-)

    is that essentially, it's based on their ideas. First, their counter-plan to Clinton's reform plan in the 90's, and Mitt Romney's apparently highly successful plan in Massachusetts, especially the universal mandate.

    Why wouldn't a Republican like a bill that compels people to patronize a private, for-profit business?

    Of course, the Medicaid expansion they don't like. But is that really a high price to pay?

    The problem the GOP has with the ACA is that it was not signed by George W. Bush or Mitt Romney. They don't care about the fact that it was based on a Heritage Foundation white paper and an earlier version of it was championed by Newt Gingrich.


    by commonmass on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 08:23:47 AM PDT

  •  Thank you, Joan (13+ / 0-)

    For consistently providing interesting, high-information, and relevant diaries.

  •  At this point I am finding my day (8+ / 0-)

    job completely hilarious - there's always that one clinging to hope of let's say tort reform to reduce his portion of the premium on our incredibly awesome employer based policy. We are in open enrollment, keeping my mouth shut as manager presenting this information is really fucking hard, especially when the stupid poisons the well. Of course, these are folks who have probably never been in the position of being uninsured, so it's a different perspective altogether. But to hear the twisting that has to go on to find a legitimate complaint - hahahaha. (What that one is really arguing for is single payer, but he doesn't know that yet)

    •  Tort reform was done on the state level, years ago (3+ / 0-)
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      States which passed tort reform limited the ability of hurt people to get some damages, but it did nothing to limit premiums going up.  Insurance premiums in states with tort reform went up pretty much the same % and amount as similar nearby states which did not pass tort reform.  In other words, it helped inrsurance company profits, reduced malpractice payouts, and did nothing for consumers.  As you'd expect from a mean-spirited lie told by the GOP to help companies and CEOs get richer.

  •  The point was to kill it BEFORE it could work. (18+ / 0-)

    It's one thing to make predictions out of thin air (Death panels) and another to lie about facts on the ground (the death panels are out there, believe me, I've seen them).

    And it's a kitchen table issue.   People know.

    Paraphrasing Mencken, today's republicans are motivated by the haunting fear that somewhere, some black guy may be getting away with something.

    by Inland on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 08:46:33 AM PDT

    •  There are a few at the kitchen table that won't (10+ / 0-)

      know, who refuse to know. They are busy on the grapevine telling of their 'plight' and the even worse 'plight' of someone they know.

      But the Republican party cannot seem to find these people when bringing the injured before America in the State of the Union Address.

      So now it has to be a whisper campaign.

      Child forgotten in car? -- Use open source E-Z Baby Saver -- Andrew Pelham, 11yo inventor E-Z Baby Saver

      by 88kathy on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 08:53:07 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  That's why I always said (4+ / 0-)

      the timing on implementation was perfect.

      Just enough time for people to get enrolled and find out how it works before the election, but not enough time so they forget what it was like before.

      And timing is everything.

    •  The point was to kill it BEFORE it could work (4+ / 0-)
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      I don't think anyone understood this better than the people of DKos.

      The superfluous goods of the rich are necessary to the poor, and when you possess the superfluous you possess what is not yours." St. Augustine

      by Davis X Machina on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:39:54 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  They ONLY way they could kill it was before. (4+ / 0-)
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      At least not with a whole lot of fallout, which if they ever get control could cost them that in the following election.

      I could only imagine the commercials Dems would run after they took healthcare away from 20 million. To say little of the mess it would make for so many more who a repeal could affect that have nothing to do with Medicaid expansion or the subsidies.

      That's why 2012 was so important to them--now that the ACA is implemented, they can't repeal it without getting a whole lot of shit on their faces.

    •  Too bad there are no death panels (0+ / 0-)

      A good health care system needs them.

      The whole kerfluffle over mammograms and the special provision of ACA to protect them are a great example of why.

      LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

      by dinotrac on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 11:23:40 AM PDT

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    •  Of course "death panels" are out there, and (2+ / 0-)
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      always have been. They just aren't a government or "Obamacare" thing. They are called "actuarial boards", and every health insurance company had them. These were the folks who used to be the ones who decided who did and who did not get covered (leaving those without insurance to die), when payments were capped (leaving those whose treatments were no longer paid for to die), when coverage was rescinded because they got sick(see result above), etc.

      The ACA has for the most part ended death panels, not initiated them.

      Republicans - A pathology, not a party.

      by storeysound on Fri Jul 11, 2014 at 01:57:33 PM PDT

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  •  This is goo news but according to a Kaiser poll... (5+ / 0-)
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    ...more still have an unfavorable view of the ACA.  45% to 39%.  

    I hope the attitudes change to reflect the reality soon.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:08:19 AM PDT

    •  Though when given the COMPONENTS of the ACA (9+ / 0-)

      ... kids to 25, no exclusions for pre-existing, no lifetime caps, etc ... THOSE they like.   The fruits of "socialism" they like just fine, it's only the labels that are horrific.

      This will not be easy to get past.  Logic-tight compartments are impressively effective.

      "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

      by lgmcp on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:15:50 AM PDT

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      •  "Logic-tight compartments" (3+ / 0-)
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        Apt description of the willful ignorance and self injury of many who "deny, deny, deny" that the PPACA could help them or those they care about.

        "Because we are all connected...."

        by Shawn87 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 11:03:20 AM PDT

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        •  Learned that term in Psych 201 (2+ / 0-)
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          Lo these many years ago.   It is a real thing and subject of scholarly study.  To some extent we all have it ... but hoo-boy, has the Rightwing ever elevated it to the centerpiece of their world view.

          "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

          by lgmcp on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 11:06:16 AM PDT

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    •  Need better Democrats! Like Huffman (5+ / 0-)

      so bummers get fixed.

      "I'm a fan of the Affordable Care Act," Huffman says. "It's an important reform and moves us in the right direction, but we've got some work to do to make sure the implementation is successful, and that's what this is all about." If anything, Huffman says, Obamacare didn't go quite far enough. "I continue to believe we need a public option in the mix to keep insurance companies honest, but if we can just hold them accountable, there's every reason to believe the system should work better now that we've managed to get most people covered."
    •  I think you'd find those with unfavorable views (0+ / 0-)

      have a disregard for that "make believe ACA" of the GOP portrayal, and not the actual ACA.

      Unless, they prefer to pay more, for less, and the chance to get canceled exactly when they need it most, or denied entirely because of a pre-existing condition, as well as just kicking their college aged kid to the curb.

      I for one, prefer the $50 per month back in my pocket, and knowing more people are getting better coverage, and fewer are getting left on their own to slowly perish due to lack of income.

  •  You can repeal it (6+ / 0-)
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    if you expand medicare for everyone, not just old/disabled folk.

    Why hello there reality, how are you doing?

    by Future Gazer on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:11:26 AM PDT

  •  A good trend, and totally understandable (1+ / 0-)
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    but the numbers, respectable as they are, are not quite as hefty and impressive as I had hoped to read.   With a smoother rollout, we coulda been twice as far along --coulda shoulda woulda -- but it seems the web project didn't even start until after John Roberts decided the ACA could live.  

    Gotta keep a head of steam and keep actively pushing to get folks enrolled.  We could be in an even better place two years from now.

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:12:17 AM PDT

    •  There's an upper limit... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...on how many new enrollments there would be because the legislation explicitly excludes undocumented aliens -- some moiety of that 11-12 million would otherwise be included.

      The superfluous goods of the rich are necessary to the poor, and when you possess the superfluous you possess what is not yours." St. Augustine

      by Davis X Machina on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:41:27 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  "YOU LIE!" (0+ / 0-)

        Oh, sorry Davis X Machina. I was having a flashback to a recent joint session of Congress and a speech by our President, and a backbencher who either didn't read the law, or just wanted to fund raise by being inappropriate while shouting nonsense. I still can't believe that shit happened!

        "Because we are all connected...."

        by Shawn87 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 11:24:05 AM PDT

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        •  These people... (3+ / 0-)
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          ...would send their ice cream back to the restaurant's kitchen because it's not hot enough.

          "You want to exclude undocumented aliens. Good -- we excluded undocumented aliens."

          "But you don't cover everyone!"

          The superfluous goods of the rich are necessary to the poor, and when you possess the superfluous you possess what is not yours." St. Augustine

          by Davis X Machina on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 12:02:40 PM PDT

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  •  Didn't we say this? (4+ / 0-)
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    That people would like it, once they were enrolled?

    the woman who is easily irritated

    by chicago minx on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:17:21 AM PDT

  •  It would be nice if (2+ / 0-)
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    Seventy-four percent of newly insured Republicans liked their plans.
    meant something for Democrats.  But I bet all of these people will like the ACA but can't stand Obamacare.

    If Republicans gain power and kill it, or the Supreme Court decides that "the federal government wasn't supposed to supply money to exchanges" these people would blame Democrats for taking it away.

    "Moon landing was real. Evolution exists. Tax cuts lose revenue. The research has shown this a thousand times. Enough already." - Austan Goolsbee

    by anonevent on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:22:56 AM PDT

  •  Success or failure doesn't matter (5+ / 0-)

    The success or failure of any of Obama's policies, directives, or actions will make NO difference in the desire of the GOP base to see him attacked or impeached. Because objective facts and reason did not form their irrational hatred of Obama, those factors will not remove their hatred of him.  

    The right doesn't actually care about  Benghazi, or the ACA, or  Bergdahl, or the Constitution, or anything else they claim to. Those just serve as fig leaves to cover the nakedness of their bigoted hate. The GOP base is wholly motivated by their cultural bigotry. We liberals must stop looking for some rational basis for the motivations of the right, there simply isn't one.

  •  Let's not take our eyes off the ball. (1+ / 0-)
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    A looming decision on a little-publicized but potential significant court case could derail the ACA:

    Halbig vs. Sebulius

    "The truest measure of compassion lies not in our service of those on the margins, but in our willingness to see ourselves in kinship with them." Father Gregory Boyle, Homeboy Industries

    by Mr MadAsHell on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:27:42 AM PDT

  •  Of course (3+ / 0-)
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    people like their new Obamacare plan.  Who wouldn't enjoy getting rid of having to worry what you are going to do if you get sick or hurt.  They must feel like a thousand pounds have been lifted off their shoulders.

  •  How many Republicans signed up? (1+ / 0-)
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    do we have that number?

    by chloris creator on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:29:03 AM PDT

  •  that's millions of happy people (2+ / 0-)
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    eyo, Shawn87

    Millions of people who were helped by government.  Over five and a half million people  (60% 0f 9.5 million who were covered by Medicaid or an insurance plan to extrapolate from the survey) who may very well have gotten not just insurance but health care they couldn't have afforded absent Obamacare.  

    Repeal that kind of customer satisfaction.  

  •  Don't tell them that (2+ / 0-)
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    Seriously. If you tell a Republican that statistics show that Obamacare works, it makes them hate facts that much more.

  •  Remember folks: (7+ / 0-)

    This is public opinion. And we're winning that battle.

    There are only three ways the GOP can win in November:

    Lie, cheat, or steal people's voting rights.

    "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

    by raptavio on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 09:38:33 AM PDT

    •  And, in point of simple fact, the (3+ / 0-)
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      Teabaghead/Republicans will use every one of those 3 methods, everywhere, and in every way possible, to do whatever it might be to win elections in 2014.  Not to even mention the simple fact that they have 5 devoted and dedicated Supreme Court Judges to make certain that what they do is considered to be "perfectly legal", in case of contest.

  •  GOP Doesn't Care If It Works (4+ / 0-)

    The thing people need to remember is that the GOP doesn't care if it actually works or is helping people. They are so emotionally invested in the Ayn Rand/Fox News worldview that facts about the ACA working are irrelevant to them. The only thing that matters is the purity of their ideology, which gets more and more nihilistic every day.  

  •  Great. But it doesn't matter electorally (1+ / 0-)
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    Half the people or more still hate/dislike Obamacare.  Too many, of course, are right here on the Kos, because eliminating insurance companies seems a higher priority than people not dying unnecessarily.

    But half of this country still can't find its ass with both hands if you gave it a one-cheek head start.

    That said, I'm glad, very much so, that so many more have meaningful insurance.  

    •  No revolution without martyrs. (0+ / 0-)

      Besides, we would honor their noble sacrifice.

      We're not complete ingrates.

      Something tasteful on the National Mall -- not a monstrosity like that WWII Memorial.

      Or a commemorative stamp -- if there's still a USPS by the time single payer goes through.

      The superfluous goods of the rich are necessary to the poor, and when you possess the superfluous you possess what is not yours." St. Augustine

      by Davis X Machina on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 04:32:51 PM PDT

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  •  I'd like to see everyone who (3+ / 0-)
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    has benefitted from Obamacare vote their thanks. It is the very least they can do.

  •  "Almost certainly" (0+ / 0-)

    I'm sure that subsidized insurance (not necessarily very good if you buy a bronze plan or even many of the silvers) and expanded Medicaid deserve credit for a lot of that increase, but, if we are to believe the jobs and unemployment data,  more people might just be getting insurance through their employers, too.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 11:21:02 AM PDT

  •  So now ask those Republicans who like their plan (1+ / 0-)
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    How soon they are willing to give it up for the good of the nation.  I want to see THAT number.  The English have a term for it - nil.

    UGH, TEXAS. Please secede!

    by u028021 on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 11:22:40 AM PDT

  •  Republican voters like their plans (0+ / 0-)

    Because of the death panels that kill off grandma and they get to inherit all her money..  Oh, and the luxury suites at the FEMA camps are free..

    Jesus only performs miracles for people with enough time on their hands to make that crap up.

    by KneecapBuster on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 02:51:19 PM PDT

  •  Time to start blasting GOP (0+ / 0-)

    For their lies about ACA.

    It is going to destroy the economy.
    No one wants it.
    Jobs will be destroyed.
    Death squads.

    Republicans produce more fiction than Steven Spielberg and fabricate more horror stories than Stephen King.

    by mastergardener2k on Thu Jul 10, 2014 at 03:01:13 PM PDT

  •  Please help (2+ / 0-)
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    Please help us and tell Rep. Bradley Byrne (of Alabama) to support expanding Medicaid Please call Phone: (251) 690-2811 Phone: (251) 972-8545 phone: (202) 225-4931 fax: (202) 225-0562 (let him have it)

    Please help us and tell Governor (of Alabama) Bentley to expand Medicaid.  Here’s his contact number 334-242-7100 or fax 334-353-0004.

  •  This is like a Folgers commercial (0+ / 0-)

    "We've secretly replaced Republicans' regular insurance with Obamacare, let's see if they notice"

  •  I must of missed something (0+ / 0-)

    Seventy-four percent of newly insured Republicans liked their plans.

  •  You forget, though, (0+ / 0-)

    that to modern Republican politicians, facts are irrelevant. They even came right out and said they weren't going to let their 2012 presidential campaign be dictated by fact checkers.

    They can make up their own facts, thank you, and their facts are every bit as good as yours.

    So don't tell them the truth and expect them to believe it.

    (But check out my sig line ...)

    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson/// "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- Aldous Huxley

    by ThePhlebob on Fri Jul 11, 2014 at 12:04:52 PM PDT

  •  Sorry, 50 million uninsured minus 9.5 m = 40.5 m (0+ / 0-)

    Obama protected the insurance companies for some unknown payback. A single payer system would have resulted in 0 million uninsured, a public option probably would have resulted in 20 million uninsured. As the article points out, ACA is a Republican plan. More than 80% of Americans wanted at least a public option, and although promised to be voted on it never was. More than anything this has soured me on Obama.

    •  You're right, of course, (0+ / 0-)

      he didn't take it far enough.  He did, however, do something which no one else had managed in 30 years. The problems first began being written about in the media during the 1980's.  Just sayin.  [Though Clinton did try and failed in the '90s.]

      And the reason for the low coverage is due to the SCOTUS who gave the Republican governors the out they wanted when they made the expansion of Medicaid optional.

      Believe me, I know from this.  I live in Florida where we are at the "mercy" of Rick Scott.  The same guy who cost the state $2,000,000 by drug testing Welfare recipients [a move which was supposed to save money] refused to accept a program that would have been fully funded by the Federal government because - - Obama.

      And Koch.  We must never forget his addiction to Koch.

      The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men - - Plato . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We must be the change we wish to see in the world - - Mohandas Gandhi

      by twocrows1023 on Fri Jul 11, 2014 at 03:25:41 PM PDT

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  •  Apparently, there are some... (0+ / 0-)

    ...exceptions. I'm on Medicare, disabled due to CAD and a failing liver (no, I'm not a drinker. The damage was done by heart meds like statins and blood thinners) and I just found out today that the private clinic I was referred to by my Medicare-approved doctor will no longer accept Medicare payments for existing patients. Also, they wanted me to sign a promissory note taking full responsibility for all charges and costs to this date, including the office visit I can no longer afford ($100 co-pay). When I refused, their office manager told me she would have to refer my account to a collections agency. I decided that I no longer wanted to be threatened and left. She told me as I was leaving that I would be charged $100 dollars for the visit, even though I was on time and was not allowed to see the specialist for my liver.

    There are many, many ways that clinics, hospitals and medical providers of all kinds can find end runs around the ACA and Medicare. This appears to be a new twist. Anyone else have this experience? If so, what would/did you do?

  •  there are still a lot of Americans (0+ / 0-)
    walking around without health insurance today. But there are about 9.5 million fewer of them than there were last fall . . .
    And just why is it only 9.5?
    Because every state with a Republican governor is intent on making sure of it.  They refuse to expand Medicaid even though the whole thing [for the first 15 years, I think it is] is paid for by the Feds.  

    The governors' mantra is, "We've got to make sure the black guy is seen to fail.  The destruction of the country is a small price to pay if we can just achieve that end."

    The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men - - Plato . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We must be the change we wish to see in the world - - Mohandas Gandhi

    by twocrows1023 on Fri Jul 11, 2014 at 03:12:42 PM PDT

  •  Compare all those 70+ numbers to 7% (0+ / 0-)

    Congress has absolutely no standing to complain about anything before they get their own act together.

  •  ACA is more than access to insurance (0+ / 0-)

    A widely overlooked part of the ACA are the provisions for cost reductions and quality of care improvements.   One of these is what's known as "Medical Homes".   This provision of the ACA seems to be working quite well:

  •  The cheese has moved! (0+ / 0-)

    I like green eggs and ham!
    I do! I like them, Sam-I-am!

  •  They wanted insurance,they got it, and they're ... (0+ / 0-)

    They wanted insurance,they got it, and they're happy with it. Why can't the Republicans understand that?

  •  When ??? (0+ / 0-)

    So, with all of the hate-mongering and lies told by the Republicans and their Tea Party and Libertarian allies - none of which have shown to be - when will we hold them accountable. Think about the gutter-level - unfounded - and completely false statements that have made - predictions - assurances ... and not a single one has come to be ... NONE !!!

    There Republican Party (GOP) no longer exists. They can call themselves what they wish, but that doesn't make it so.  WANT PROOF? Here it is = mix a few once were Republicans (now afraid to speak) with some extreme neo-cons - Tea Party and Libertarian types, and what do you get.  Republicans? I think not. Maybe a Coup, or Three-Ring Circus, but that's about it.

    Make them pay for the suffering that they continue to deliver to the 98%.

  •  Why ??? (0+ / 0-)

    Why do we keep on calling these people "Republicans"???

    OMG !!! How can you mix a pack of misfits like these in a once honorable party tag. They are the real RINO's. They are more like a tribunal - coup - a bunch of escaped looney's.

    Don't believe me - simply Let The Record Speak.

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