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I'll begin with the conclusion to save the Hilhaters some time.

and Dkos is a reality based website dedicated to electing Democratic candidates. When reality deals a Webb or Testor, we don't get on their case because they are not progressive enough. That doesn't mean that we do not criticize Democrats, or even other progressives. It's one of our favorite things to do, just not as fun as mocking the Republicans or even better the Teapubs.

So - to those Hilhaters out there, if you can not accept that reality has lined up behind Hillary as the Democratic candidate, then you are much better off finding some other website to spew your hate. If all you have is hatred, negativity and personal animosity towards Hillary - you're just a troll.

I know that Kos told you to go fuck yourselves. That was very rude. He's usually one of the first to suggest that instead of kvetching - get politically active. You can start by sidewalk consoling ammo-sexuals. Just sneak up from behind and throw firecrackers at their feet. I'm sure they will thank you.

It's rather comical that some believe we do not know the true Hillary - after all we went through in 2007-8. I believe that Hillary has shown that she knows Dkos as well.

First some history. I have a terrible revisionist memory, so others are welcome to correct me. Here are some of the highlights I remember from the Yearly Kos 2 in Chicago in August 2007:

I truly believe the organizers thought we needed more exercise.  Every other session was at opposite ends of McCormick Place at least two miles away and up 1000 stairs both ways. M. C. Escher inspired the architect.

The Teamsters thought that they could bribe us with a free bbq - hotdogs, burgers, a bar and good music. Boy were they spot on. After we ate and drank ourselves into a nice mellow state, Kos drove up in a monster 38 wheeler. He gave a speech about working together with Unions and other progressive Democratic party supporters, and then opened the truck and Bill Ayers started throwing out bags of Soros cash. You had to be there. It was wicked.

When we registered, you had to pick which presidential candidate you wanted to attend a breakout session with. I chose Obama, and his tickets were gone real early. One of my friends tried to get me to trade for a Hillary ticket. Then it was announced that Hillary was busy with something else, and would only attend the forum with all the candidates (minus Biden who was delayed 7 years). That didn't go over well with anybody, even the Hillary supporters.

The Hillary supporters were active, polite and just a little irritating. Many conversations with them could be condensed to -

"Yes, but besides her vote on the war and her not refusing money from lobbyists, there isn't that much difference - well?"

"Uh, I guess."

"So you'd vote for her?"

"Definitely. If she wins the nomination."

and then back to the beginning.

She ended up canceling whatever it was, and coming to her session. We were told that she overruled her staff. Anyways, she came, held a belated session, answered some questions dodged some others, was knowledgeable, informed, and charming, you know, like a politician. A lot of us felt that she was sincere and that she knew who we were and what we stood for, and that a lot of what she stood for we could support. We just supported Obama more.

The highlight of the candidate forum for me was when Obama was asked if he would have Hillary as part of his government. He heaped praise on Hillary, and said that he would definitely welcome Hillary. I hope someone can embed the film clip. Hillary's laugh sounded like she was saying "that's nice -ya right" at the same time.  

Already in April 2008 there was signs that Hillary (or rather her advisors) had fucked up by not taking part in the caucuses. A statistics and spreadsheet enthusiast, Pablano, was predicting in one of his diaries, that Obama had a 80% chance of winning the nomination. It took a long time for some Hillary supporters to accept this. Not accepting reality is not accepted well on this site.

It wasn't always easy to be a Hillary supporter especially during the primaries. Needless to say, there was a lot of pie and accusations of being a Obamabot or Hilbot . That is to be expected in a closely contested primary.

Hillary was an accomplished senator, and a tenacious, hard working and productive SOS. If she decides to run this time, there is no sign that it will be close this time.

This is reality, (See conclusion at the top.)

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