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Boo hoo hoo. Waaa.
If you think House Speaker John Boehner's pre-impeachment lawsuit against President Obama for failing to implement Obamacare quickly enough makes him look like an obstructionist jackass who is more interested in political stunts than doing the right thing for the country, you're not alone:
A majority of Americans view House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) lawsuit over President Obama’s delayed implementation of ObamaCare’s employer mandate as a “political stunt,” according to a new poll released Monday.

The survey, commissioned by liberal advocacy group Americans United for Change, found that 51 percent of voters don’t believe the lawsuit is legitimate, versus just 41 percent who do.

Moreover, 56 percent say the lawsuit is wasteful spending, with just 36 percent saying it is a good use of taxpayer dollars.

Here's the kicker:
The survey found that a plurality of Americans — 46 percent — say the suit makes them less likely to vote for Republicans in the upcoming midterm elections. By contrast, three in 10 say the suit makes them more likely to vote for the GOP.
And why is that? Perhaps because of this:
Some 58 percent of voters say the suit will not help improve the lives of people like them, and 63 percent say Congress should be more focused on taking action to create jobs.
On the one hand, these results are heartening, because it's always good to know that a solid majority of the country hasn't gone completely bonkers. On the other hand: Who the hell are the 37 percent of morons who wouldn't rather see Congress focused on jobs instead of Boehner's pre-impeachment lawsuit?

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  •  Not a very big boat anchor, though. (105+ / 0-)

    Boehner needs something monumental to hang around his neck...

    I should think his giving exactly zero f*cks about creating jobs and the American people would have been sufficient.

    Too bad the media doesn't give any, either.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:03:38 AM PDT

  •  There seems to be a lurch towards rational (11+ / 0-)

    thinking in this poll. Not quite enough to vault over the
    venom, but it'll do.

    "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

    by Wildthumb on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:05:16 AM PDT

  •  Many GOP voters don't like the lawsuit either (14+ / 0-)

    There are a large number of GOP voters who don't like the lawsuit either.  They want to see congress impeach the president, and think the lawsuit is a weak substitute for impeachment.

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:07:40 AM PDT

    •  I wonder if the poll asked that question (6+ / 0-)

      These polls are only as good as the questions. (I'm getting a lot of Democratic primary polls that ask me who I support, then read me a lot of statements about the various candidates -- and then ask again who I support. Not exactly push-polling, but close.)

      It's like the ACA polls that don't ask why people oppose it, or whether they'd rather see single-payer.

      •  cf: reactions to the ACA (6+ / 0-)

        Over the years, pundits and TV personalities liked to quote surveys that showed democrats didn't like the ACA.  And many democrats didn't like the ACA because it wasn't a single payer plan, not because the democrats were opposed to healthcare reform.

        So when pundits and TV personalities say that the public doesn't like the GOP lawsuit, I don't take that to mean the GOP are oppose taking action against the president.  I think the GOP would LOVE to take action against the president; they just think the GOP lawsuit is not taking ENOUGH action against the president.

        "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

        by Hugh Jim Bissell on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:38:40 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah ask the right questions to get the results (1+ / 0-)
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          whl

          that favour your preferred outcome. Typical polling BS.

          I wish I had stocks in aluminium these days. All that foil would be a great investment opportunity.

          by Ceri Cat on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 01:51:31 PM PDT

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        •  But either way it comes down to lose/lose... (1+ / 0-)
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          Because in the end you really end up not really making anyone happy. The only difference is Tea Partiers are more likely to take severe action against their own party than Dems who didn't like ACA because it didn't do enough. What that action is remains to be seen.

    •  You are most likely correct (5+ / 0-)

      The problem is -- it took Boehner how long to come up with THIS specious charge?
      They don't have an ACTUAL 'high crime or misdemeanor' to CHARGE the President with. And they know it. They ALSO know that the vast majority of their base doesn't really know that impeachment is a TRIAL and the "beyond a reasonable doubt" et cetera all apply.
      So they can TALK about it, but "I don't like his policies" or "I don't like his ____." is not a valid reason to bring articles of impeachment. And they know THAT, too.
      You know you are on shaky ground when Bill Kristol says impeachment is simply not a option. (Admittedly, he expressed this while putting down Sarah Palin, but facts is facts.)

      "Free your mind and the rest will follow...."

      by midknightryder13 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 03:29:00 PM PDT

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      •  Wow, that means Kristol has now been right (2+ / 0-)
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        twice. The first time was when he laid out the plan to kill Hillarycare in 1993, because

        Passage of the...health care plan, in any form, would guarantee and likely make permanent...the largest federal entitlement program since Social Security. Its success would signal a rebirth of centralized welfare-state policy at the very moment we have begun rolling back that idea in other areas.

        But the...proposal is also a serious political threat to the Republican Party...It will revive the reputation of the party that spends and regulates, the Democrats, as the generous protector of middle-class interests. And it will at the same time strike a punishing blow against Republican claims to defend the middle class by restraining government.

        The sum of all GOP fears

        Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

        by Mokurai on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 04:26:30 PM PDT

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    •  No one seems to mention the substance of the su... (2+ / 0-)
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      No one seems to mention the substance of the suit. Such a suit could be aimed at getting evidence for impeachment under subpoena power. But if it has none if those aspects its theatre and people serious about politics should not be trying to discuss it, because then the public is mislead in participating on the farse.

      My take on what dominates MSM and this alt media is that everything easy to see is put there to distract the public from meaningfull events citizens are working towards.

  •  great but ... (4+ / 0-)
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    We need people to vote in their best interests, or things will just continue to get worse for most of us.  The big money is never going away people make it clear that the money won't matter.  As long as big money thinks they can lie and get their way, things will not change.

    President Obama needs to be more liberal.

    by jimgilliamv2 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:09:19 AM PDT

    •  So true (0+ / 0-)

      One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.

      -Plato

      Also, failure to vote is not an act of defiance, but submission. I tell this to my friends that feel that their vote doesn't count and doesn't change anything. I feel like I have to beat them over the head and tell them that THAT is exactly what the far right wants you to believe. It's so much easier to claim victory over people that don't even put up a fight.

  •  Agree it's a political stunt (8+ / 0-)

    And I agree it's going nowhere.  And I agree most Americans (the ones who are even aware of it) probably think it's a stunt also.

    That said...

    The survey, commissioned by liberal advocacy group Americans United for Change
    ...what would we say here to a poll commissioned by, I don't know "Conservative advocacy group Americans United for the Constitution"?

    Dammit Jim, I'm a lawyer, not a grammarian. So sue me.

    by Pi Li on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:09:41 AM PDT

    •  Actually, I'd be giddy if (4+ / 0-)
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      a conservative group published polling like this.  I love it when they eat each other.

      I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

      by mojo11 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:30:07 AM PDT

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      •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)
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        VClib

        Why can't they treat each other with civility and respect, and avoid the ideological fights like we do here?

        Dammit Jim, I'm a lawyer, not a grammarian. So sue me.

        by Pi Li on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:35:19 AM PDT

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        •  Not really my point... I don't think. (3+ / 0-)

          I was saying that if Rassmussen (for example) had released a poll saying that 63% of respondents thought Boner was an idiot, I'd be over the moon.  It's a lot harder for the Republicans to discount results like that when they come from one of their own.

          As for the question you ask, I suspect that the lack of respect they have for each other is born of their lack of respect for others in general.  That and a constitutional incapability to admit that they may not be right all the time.  And greed.  Never forget that element of the Republican psyche.  Not that the GOP has an exclusive franchise on any of these, but it does seem more prevalent over there in Red Town.

          I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

          by mojo11 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:52:47 AM PDT

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      •  I think the point is (0+ / 0-)

        If the commenters group...

        "Conservative advocacy group Americans United for the Constitution"?
        came out with a poll that found that 51 percent of voters believe the lawsuit is legitimate, versus just 41 percent who don’t . we here at Dkos would ignore it and claim it was a skewed partisan poll.

        But when we see a poll by a liberal outfit we don't hesitate for a second to accept it as gospel, just like cons would take the above noted poll.

        Show me a conservative pollster that gets similar results and I will think that Boners lawsuit might be backfiring on him.

        Religion is like a blind man, in a pitch black room, searching for a black cat that isn't there.....and finding it.

        by fauxrs on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 12:00:44 PM PDT

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        •  Track record of Republican pollsters (3+ / 0-)
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          Maybe it's partly due to a poorer track record among Republican pollsters.

        •  That's more or less the point I was making. (1+ / 0-)
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          If I'd seen these results in a poll conducted by Rassmussen or Civitas or ... whoever told Cantor he was winning (name escapes me just now) then I'd give more credence to the result.  When it comes from PPP or somebody like that, I'm a little less certain unless the results are completely lopsided.  And even then, I'd feel better if I knew what the actual questions were and what the makeup of the sample was.

          Frankly, most polls (no matter who conducts them) have sample sizes so small that I don't see how they could be representative of a large population.  That doesn't make them valueless by any means, they just have to be viewed in context.  And HOW you ask a question is more important than WHAT you ask.

          I'll believe corporations are people when one comes home from Afghanistan in a body bag.

          by mojo11 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 12:37:32 PM PDT

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        •  But all polls are Gospel -- just like the "Gospel" (0+ / 0-)

          referenced in your signature.

          This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

          by JJustin on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 04:53:19 PM PDT

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  •  Wait...suing the president doesn't make me richer? (15+ / 0-)

    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by darthstar on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:09:56 AM PDT

  •  If Democrats buck the trend in the House and pick (4+ / 0-)
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    up 6-10 seats, say something like 212-223 after the election, it would be interesting to see if House TPers would agree to any semi-rational Speaker. Wha hoppen if no one gets a majority. Or if Pelosi gives the majority of votes for a Boehner (or whatever) Speaker election?

    •  It's a fun thought exercise--in a more closely ... (5+ / 0-)
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      It's a fun thought exercise--in a more closely divided House, would the Tea Party caucus of Gohmert, King, Huelskamp etc. hold out for a Cruz approved "true conservative" and create an opening for a center-left coalition speaker (Think Coffman, Reichert or P. King). But as evidenced by the government shutdown, fiscal cliff, VAWA and so forth, the supposed "moderates" of the GOP will not under any circumstance go NY Senate-style IDC until they're in checkmate. Only after they're staring at the abyss will they side with the dems over the nihilists.

      Incidentally, I believe that a House distribution as you're describing is not only possible, but likely. Our best issues have more resonance in purple seats, and there are plenty of opportunities there. Our job, as ever, is to get our people out to vote. That the GOP is doing everything they can these days to remind our voters of what an epic fuster-cluck people get when they're in charge is only making our job easier. Please proceed, Mr. Speaker...

  •  It's always about 30-35% who are reactionary. T... (9+ / 0-)

    It's always about 30-35% who are reactionary. The paranoid style is alive and well in today's america.

    •  They may also be the most votiferous (0+ / 0-)

      And perhaps that's the reason for this stunt.  If those 30-35% are the core voters they need to bring home the 2014 election cycle - this helps them more than hurts them.

      Still trying to figure it all out

      by CindyV on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 02:41:55 PM PDT

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  •  Just wait. PBS and NPR will propagandize this (4+ / 0-)
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    (NPR will trot out Mara Liasson and Cokie "I will shill for air time" Roberts") and CBS and the New York Times and everyone else will decide it's a good idea to "report" on this and you'll see those numbers change.

    SPES MEA IN DEO EST.

    by commonmass on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:11:54 AM PDT

  •  In the rare case (12+ / 0-)

    a John Boehner that lasts for more than four hours, seek immediate medical attention.

    There are only two kinds of Republicans: Millionaires and fools.

    by deh on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:12:45 AM PDT

  •  Boehner: What was I thinking?!?..... (4+ / 0-)
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    a constant refrain.

  •  The 37% are focused on screwing the left (6+ / 0-)

    Just like the best time to put something over on any animal is when they're having sex or filling their gut.  Those are top priority.  

    This 37% are so focused on hating Obama that it is  better than sex; and they cannot be distracted from the process.  

    So, the world can go to hell as long as they're all over that carcass until the last shred has been devoured. All repugs need to do is keep them chewing and screwing.

    Please excuse the tone of this post but, after all, we are talking about repugs here.

    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

    by cowdab on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:14:15 AM PDT

    •  Or they genuinely don't believe (2+ / 0-)
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      that job creation is one of the government's jobs.

      I have some sympathy with that view, actually; one of my local mayoral candidates' literature is all focused on how the city can be more "customer-focussed" by which I gather he means "more business-friendly" in the hopes that will create more jobs. I frankly don't see that as the mayor's job -- I'd rather he be taxpayer-and-resident friendly.

      What passes for "job creation" tends to be special deals and subsidies for particular businesses, and that money has to come from someone else's pocket.

      What I would favor (but the GOPers oppose) is adequate funding of Federal agencies like the VA, IRS, Social Security. The GOP has forced substantial job cuts at all levels of government, and reversing some of those would be the #1 thing they could do to help the economy.

      So yeah, I might have been in that 37% (if I'd been asked), depending on how the question was worded.

      •  Well, the 37% are always there with open (1+ / 0-)
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        Anne056

        arms awaiting anyone ready to brush aside reality and join them.  As for me, they have nothing that would move my support their way.  They are toxic.

        "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

        by cowdab on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 11:43:00 AM PDT

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      •  Never thought about it, until now, but...... (1+ / 0-)
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        Anne056

        It does make sense the poll could go either way depending on what questions are asked and how they are asked.  I don't have too much faith in polls, but it does give you a general idea of how people are thinking.  It also irritates me, when people want to predict what the outcome of something is and try to get in the media, for their 15 minutes of fame spouting out their thoughts, and so-called facts, creating a lot of hysteria, when no one really knows how something will turn out.

        •  Polls (0+ / 0-)

          Writing unbiased survey questions must be an art in itself.  Sometimes the bias is subtle.  Sometimes pretty blatant.

          I once received a phone call purporting to be a survey on abortion.  The first question:  "Do you favor the unrestricted right of a woman to murder her unborn baby".

          That's when I hung up.

      •  Don't know for certain (0+ / 0-)

        But my sister worked for the City of Torrance for several years.  The "customer" terminology was used there all the time.  But it meant the taxpayers and residents.  At least that was how her part of the city meant it.

        So your mayor may actually mean you when he says customer focused (not just businesses).

        True, there will always be some politicking, fundraising, you-scratch-my-back stuff for elected officials.  I think that is almost impossible to avoid.  But the "customer focused" terminology isn't a red flag that the mayor is leaning that way.  It is the current trend in managing municipalities.

        Still trying to figure it all out

        by CindyV on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 02:51:46 PM PDT

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  •  Put a deal on the table. (1+ / 0-)
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    Yonit

    That's what politicians need to do these days.

    "I offered and they blew it off" is  a fine talking point.

    "I'm suing them like a whiny little brat and bully wannabe", not so much.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:20:04 AM PDT

  •  Who? (9+ / 0-)
    Who the hell are the 37 percent of morons who wouldn't rather see Congress focused on jobs instead of Boehner's pre-impeachment lawsuit?
    Answer: Garden variety racists.

    We produce more renewable energy than any other state - WA Gov. Jay Inslee

    by mrobinson on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:20:25 AM PDT

  •  who the hell are the people who (3+ / 0-)
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    say they would vote for ANY Republican candidate for president, people in the millions, a number never dipping below 35% of the population?

    If I know any of them I've probably hidden their news feeds on Facebook.

    •  misguided morans, perhaps? (1+ / 0-)
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      Anne056

      The GOP/T has been doing a FINE job of disinformation these past many years...

      America's LAST HOPE: vote the GOP OUT in 2014 elections. MAKE them LOSE the House Majority and reduce their numbers in the Senate. Democrats move America forward - Republicans take us backward and are KILLING OUR NATION!

      by dagnome on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 05:06:15 PM PDT

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      •  Information (1+ / 0-)
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        MarcKyle64

        Something to keep in mind is that people do not act on the truth.  They act on what they understand the facts to be.

        Until 1981 the FCC had a fairness rule requiring that people using the citizen-owned airwaves present all sides of a controversial issue.  One of the first things Reagan did was to eliminate that rule.

        When you add in the FCC's having dropped  rules limiting one company owning too many broadcast media in a given market and we have turned virtually all the mass media into a right-wing propaganda machine.  

        The attack on net neutrality is  probably an attempt to control information from that medium too.

        When all a person hears, sees or reads is one side of an issue then an informed electorate is a thing of the past.

        But this a pet peeve of mine.  

  •  the 37% (0+ / 0-)

    are the Levin/Beck wing of the Fox watchers.

  •  Push this during the campaign (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    Barring details from the crosstabs as mentioned above, Democrats need to hit this explicitly and hard with TV commercials and during debates. If there's enough in the budget leftover then this is begging for a Better Call Saul-themed parody commercial.

  •  He'll be crying again. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:25:10 AM PDT

  •  Backfiring? Oh that's what the noise is (3+ / 0-)
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    I thought is was  Jack Benny's Maxwell

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:25:17 AM PDT

  •  I thought Republicans hated the mandate (2+ / 0-)
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    Why would they want it implemented sooner?  Oh I get it ... it's just whiny bullshit so they have an excuse on not taking up real issues such as immigration reform.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Riane Eisler

    by noofsh on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:28:24 AM PDT

    •  Republicans do hate the mandate, (1+ / 0-)
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      Yonit

      even though it was their idea. If President Obama had not delayed the mandate on businesses, they would be screaming that he is killing jobs.

      If Reagan was the answer, it must have been a very silly question.

      by shoeless on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 11:16:49 AM PDT

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    •  Whine, when he don't, then whine, when he does. (1+ / 0-)
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      Sure don't say much about them.  Seems to me the main thing they don't like about Obama is  1)  He's black and 2)  He's a Democrat and 3)  They aren't getting any credit, for the good things, which are happening.  They sure don't want to see him get any credit, for all of the good things he has done.  Sure, he maybe made some mistakes, trying to keep the United States and the World, from a disaster, but given the circumstances, I think he did a great job.  You can always say "he should have done this or that", after all hindsight is 20/20.  What would have actually happened, if he would have let the big banks fail and the auto companies go under, without helping them out.  Things were really bad, in 2008, when he inherited the mess from Bush.  I think he has done an excellent job trying to bring the economy back.  How could it come back faster, when it hadn't gotten this bad, in such a long time?

      •  Nodding profusely (0+ / 0-)

        You nailed it!

        Still trying to figure it all out

        by CindyV on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 02:54:14 PM PDT

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      •  Spot on, john972. I also think that one of the (0+ / 0-)

        things that rankle these fools the most is that Obama, and NOT the Bushie regime, nailed Bin Laden. That will be stuck in the craw of the Repubs/Baggers for all of eternity. If you have the stomach for it, go back and review the reactions of the likes of Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rushie, Rove, Faux News, et al. All it consisted of was harsh criticism, back- biting remarks, anything but "Thank God we got him and congratulations to our President". That would have been the decent thing to say. I will not go back and review their odious remarks. I don't want to pitch up my dinner.

  •  They're the same 37% that voted as a block (1+ / 0-)
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    Yonit

    to say Obama is TEH WURST PRESIDENT EVARRRRR!!!!!!!11!1ONE

    "He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

    by Hayate Yagami on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:28:42 AM PDT

  •  Boehner is trying to thread the needle with his (8+ / 0-)

    lawsuit, hoping it will mollify the Tea Party that wants to impeach our President, and allow him not to have to preside over another Republican impeachment of a Democratic President (because it went so well for them last time).  

    What he doesn't seem to get is that the needle is a  bunch of petulant publicity mongering loudmouths who are happy to make him miserable in the worst no-win job since outhouse scooper.

    Let him enjoy the rotting harvest of his rotting seeds.

    "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of these United States of America -9.75 -6.87

    by Uncle Moji on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:29:30 AM PDT

  •  Hate is irrational (3+ / 0-)
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    and is not touched by reason so the best political strategy won't penetrate it. Racists love their hate.

    We produce more renewable energy than any other state - WA Gov. Jay Inslee

    by mrobinson on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:30:14 AM PDT

  •  My thoughts Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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    On the other hand: Who the hell are the 37 percent of morons who wouldn't rather see Congress focused on jobs instead of Boehner's pre-impeachment lawsuit?

    Why do Republicans Hate Americans?

    by Caniac41 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:30:44 AM PDT

  •  Has he thought about what happens if he wins? (7+ / 0-)

    Suppose that he goes ahead with the lawsuit, and thanks to right-wing judges, he wins.  Wouldn't that mean that the waiver is invalid and all businesses that took advantage of it now have to pay a fine?  Lawsuits aren't just about talking points, they have consequences.

  •  Long time reader, first time commenter (1+ / 0-)
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    I love the strong progressive community at the Daily Kos and always stop by a few times a day to see what's happening. What compelled me to post, unfortunately, is not positive.

    There are so many compelling reasons to ridicule John Boehner. His complete lack of control over the Republican caucus, instantly springs to mind, as do his ridiculous reasons for not being able to pass any laws. Why, then, do we have to resort to making fun of the man for crying? Why is that something worthy of disdain? Why do people think this is appropriate or even humorous? This kind of shaming of men for crying is just playing into ridiculous patriarchal tropes that inhibit adult men from showing emotion, and it's wrong. Aren't we supposed to be progressives here?

    Let's leave these kinds of personal attacks to the other side.

    •  It's not the crying per se (3+ / 0-)
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      It's that he cries for millionaires and 'the country he once knew' while the long-term unemployed and Medicaid left-outs get to kiss his orange ass.

      Fuck him.

    •  It's not the crying we mock it's the sincerity (3+ / 0-)
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      He cares deeply enough to cry but not enough to do the right thing even by his own standards. "I went ahead with the shutdown because my right flank wanted it that way"

      You can't care deeply and not do the right thing and then have it matter!

      Some good food, a few shots, the sound of waves in the background and a nice sunset. These are the things, in my experience that will set most things right. ~ Anthony Bourdain

      by boomstyk on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 11:36:28 AM PDT

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    •  You'll encounter all sorts of defenses of the (0+ / 0-)

      attacks on men -- maleness generally -- mostly based upon rationales that blame the victim of the attacks.

      As example: men die years earlier than women, yet women are "oppressed".

      What is the "feminist" "explanation" for that?  It's men's own fault.  They "ask" for it by the way they live (such as working themselves to death supporting their families).

      This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

      by JJustin on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 06:35:42 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks for stepping up (0+ / 0-)

      and raising this issue.  

      It is one of the cheap and easy points that can be made, I agree.

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      by a gilas girl on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 08:59:27 PM PDT

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    •  My old Irish uncle used to cry at the drop of a... (0+ / 0-)

      My old Irish uncle used to cry at the drop of a hat...he was a drunkard too.

  •  Who are the 37%? (1+ / 0-)
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    ...36 percent saying it is a good use of taxpayer dollars.
    The same as the 36%, and I guarantee that they consider themselves good fiscal conservatives who want to cut government spending. Most of them are undoubtedly teabaggers.

    If Reagan was the answer, it must have been a very silly question.

    by shoeless on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:48:55 AM PDT

    •  They never stop to think -- er, they also never (2+ / 0-)
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      stop to recognize, let alone think, that their demands on gov't cost money.

      What matters is getting the hands of the Federal gov't off their Social Security and Medicare.

      This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

      by JJustin on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 06:38:33 PM PDT

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  •  Does the Speaker... (1+ / 0-)
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    ever actually do any work?

    "These 'Yet To Be' United States" --James Baldwin--

    by kevinbr38 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:51:03 AM PDT

  •  51-41. Meh, as the kids say. (1+ / 0-)
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    65-35 I'd be happier.

    But again: the Idiocracy.

  •  Loop the Video (1+ / 0-)
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    Of Boehner Crying, Red Faced, Sad

    Flying Text (rapid Fire): "of every piece of legislation blocked by republicans"

    Cap it off with the lawsuit: "Boehner Sues Country for not playing fair"

    Crescendo ~ Flying Text: "The nation can't grow up until John Boehner does"

    Some good food, a few shots, the sound of waves in the background and a nice sunset. These are the things, in my experience that will set most things right. ~ Anthony Bourdain

    by boomstyk on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:57:41 AM PDT

  •  Dem's Need to Tweek Boehners Lawsuit Phrasiology (5+ / 0-)

    "Boehner is suing the country"

    Every Dem needs to say this in every interview or public appearance.  

    The president represents the country, he is the figure head thus Boehner is suing the country!

    Some good food, a few shots, the sound of waves in the background and a nice sunset. These are the things, in my experience that will set most things right. ~ Anthony Bourdain

    by boomstyk on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 11:02:03 AM PDT

  •  Good place to start lookin' (1+ / 0-)
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    whl
    Who the hell are the 37 percent of morons who wouldn't rather see Congress focused on jobs instead of Boehner's pre-impeachment lawsuit?
    Populations of AL, AR, FL, GA, KY, LA, MS, NC, SC, OK, TN, TX, VA, WV add up to ~ 112M.

    Total U.S. estimate for 2013 ~ 316.1M

    % = ~ 35%

  •  Is "Please Proceed" a bumper sticker yet? (2+ / 0-)
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    I love it when the party of no ideas "gets an idea."

    "There's been a little complication with my complication"

    by dash888 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 11:13:14 AM PDT

  •  But they are creating jobs (2+ / 0-)
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    63 percent say Congress should be more focused on taking action to create jobs
    Unfortunately for the Repub/Tea Party dogma that government jobs only enslave us, they create lots of jobs for staffers, researchers, government lawyers, court officials and so on with all of their idiotic lawsuits and "investigations" (if you can actually use that word for the Issa variety of dog-and-pony shows).

    The Church of Mammon invites all sincerely believing corporations to join the faith: www.mammonchurch.org

    by Krotor on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 11:13:14 AM PDT

  •  If it looks like Boehner is about to back off, (3+ / 0-)
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    bbctooman, Yonit, whl

    Ted Cruz will be on the phone to teabag Reps. pushing them to push Boehner.

    •  Cruz is such a pseudo-serious sonorously (2+ / 0-)
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      nocynicism, starduster

      sanctimonious demagogue.

      That he reminds so much of Joe McCarthy must be proff that there is reincarnation.

      This is the country of those three great rights: freedom of conscience, freedom of speech, and the wisdom never to exercise either of them. -- Mark Twain. A lie is half way around the world before the truth can get its shoes on. -- Mark Twain.

      by JJustin on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 06:41:51 PM PDT

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  •  Thank you Sarah, (2+ / 0-)
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    Palin that is. It seems the craziest House members have publicly declared impeachment talk is premature. Every damn tea bagger I know has been saying ever since I can remember, Impeachment NOW! The base has been fed red meat for years, and Sarah's statement didn't seem to have stepped over any line to me. At least judging from all of the vitriol they have spewed.  So now the base can overreact to the wimps in congress shirking their constitutional mandated responsibility.

  •  Pet Peeve (1+ / 0-)
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    People who do this:

    "The survey found that a plurality of Americans — 46 percent — say the suit makes them less likely to vote for Republicans in the upcoming midterm elections. By contrast, three in 10 say the suit makes them more likely to vote for the GOP."

    Argh, statistical goofiness. If you say "46%," follow it with "30%," not, "three in 10."

  •  Psychotherapy will help Boehner (1+ / 0-)
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    VPofKarma

    get to the cause of all those tears...and it don't have squat to do with his bizarre, toxic vision of the American Dream. What a walking, squawking bag of sickness...

  •  I know what you mean (3+ / 0-)
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    whl, VPofKarma, Ahianne

    I always have a hard time getting excited by poll #s like this. It's like yes, I guess that's good ... but still 37% of Americans think that a ridiculous baseless lawsuit against the President is a better way to spend their time than working on things that actually matter? it just shows how split the country is... there are now about 40% of Americans who are well past just voting against Obama, they have an irrational hatred of him it seems. it's upsetting ... but it's what you get from just endless lies about him from the right wing media.

  •  There's something that confuses me about this suit (2+ / 0-)
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    VPofKarma, Yonit

    And it's this...

    What remedy are they seeking?

    Lawsuits are equity suits. They are alleging non-illegal but improper (frex. breach of contract) behavior. And there is a remedy being sought.

    What is the remedy that Boehner is seeking?  If the court were to rule in his favor, what would happen? What would Obama be forced to do or give up?  Money?

    How would this work? I mean, obviously what they're doing is a political stunt, everybody knows that, but there has to be some fig leaf of misequity for the suit to be coherent, right? What is it that they want the court to do?

  •  Don't Understand How The Party That Is For Tort (6+ / 0-)

    reform and condemns frivolous lawsuits would get behind this turkey.  

  •  the solid nutty 30% (4+ / 0-)

    Has anyone ever put together a collection of everything that "30% of Americans" is for?

    It seems like that's the magic number for the nutty right. On any position you can count on that 30% to have the most out there position that usually falls in line with the extreme "conservative" position.

    I'd love to see a diary which collects them all.

    •  I don't think you would like to see that (0+ / 0-)

      In the Stanley Milgram experiments, two thirds of college student subjects went on pushing the buttons, thinking that they were giving painful, even harmful electrical shocks to other people, even to the point of screaming and eventual silence. Even though all of them expressed varying levels of concern, from a single question to dozens of objections, those two-thirds went on. Only about a third refused.

      We still have a few people in this country who were taken to lynchings as children to make sure that they got the right attitude, and had their pictures taken with the bodies.

      I can give you a short version. There is an overlap among the Religious Right, the Tea Parties, and the Neo-Confederates who would like to destroy the Federal government entirely, and at least reinstate Jim Crow. They have also shown themselves willing to take down the global economy via US government default. Only a few of them openly advocate slavery, but you can't very well favor a new Confederacy, as more than a third of Republicans reportedly do, and at the same time claim that you don't think slavery would be a good idea.

      These are the backbone of the Republican War on Everybody Including Each Other, based on racism, bigotry, misogyny, Mammonism, and !!!More Guns More!!!.

      Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

      by Mokurai on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 05:27:49 PM PDT

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    •  I'm guessing ... (0+ / 0-)

      ...that would be a pretty slippery list.

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      by a gilas girl on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 10:16:07 PM PDT

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  •  He thinks he's forcing ObamaCare to fail (4+ / 0-)

    That's the conclusion I've come to, Boehner thinks that ObamaCare will fail if allowed to be fully implemented and that Obama is holding back the failure by selectively skipping the implementation of the toxic parts.

    He also thinks also thinks he'll embarrass Obama by pointing out that he's so unsure about his own law that's he's postponing parts of it.

    In his fantasy, this lawsuit will force Obama to fully implement the weakest provisions of the law and the law will fail.  This is nonsense.  While I think the Employer Mandate is poorly thought out and poorly written, I don't think it will lead to the failure of the law or any major embarrassment.  Hell, by the time it actually is considered (if it is) Obama may have implemented this aspect anyway.

    •  But the Repubs don't really want it either. It ... (1+ / 0-)
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      But the Repubs don't really want it either. It may just be wise to just allow a repeal vote for this specific part of the law. Of course, the instant that President Obama announces support for its repeal, Republicans will have to take the exact opposite position to avoid agreeing with him

      •  Republicans will take the exact opposite position. (0+ / 0-)

        Thank you for the laugh but you hit it right on the nail!! Funny thing is there are apparently 37% (or so) that have a serious case of amnesia ....who will conveniently forget or be brainwashed into believing that the Republicans were NEVER for any position the President was for. That with a sprinkling of FOX propaganda...will guarantee that less than 100% of us actually do and ever will "get it".

  •  Those are some good numbers (0+ / 0-)

    And this will help us in November.

    Thanks for the early Xmas gift, John!!!!!


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    by AlyoshaKaramazov on Tue Jul 15, 2014 at 03:54:04 PM PDT

  •  Who? The same deluded and diluted teabags who (1+ / 0-)
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    Cheer climate deniers, birthers, tenthers, bigots and you name it, only because the other side disagrees with them.

  •  Give them time (0+ / 0-)

    The teabaggers are itching for an impeachment vote and, if history is any judge, they will get one at some point IMHO.  It's almost like they are trying for a "remix" of all of their high (low) points of the 1990's during (surprise) a Democratic Presidency.

    •  Try to Remember... (1+ / 0-)
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      I remember the 1990 stunts of the Newt crowd.

      It was their miserable, gut-wrenchingly incompetent performance in Slick Willie's impeachment that got me to stop donating to them and voting for them.  Got to see what they really stood for AND how useless they were in standing for it, while chewing gum at the same time.

      Maybe The Yout need their own Kodak Moment like that to clinch their opinions of the the Grotty Ole Party...

  •  His Law Suit Is All About August...Nothing More! (1+ / 0-)
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    The House goes on break for the entire month of August.  They're going home to face their constituents.  Republicans need some red meat to throw to their rabid base.  It proves they're doing something for their bloated salaries.  

    They're suing the President of the United States for doing his job.

    Only the dumbest, most FOX News devotees would go for this tripe.  

  •  he should try impeachment instead :) (0+ / 0-)
  •  It's my every hope and prayer they lose the House (2+ / 0-)
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    maybeeso in michigan, Anne056

    I'd so tired of seeing that whining, miserable douche. Even if you didn't like Pelosi, at least she got things done--at least she tried. For all their criticisms of so-called lazy and unproductive people in America, the GOP sure is definitely lazy and unproductive. And their "welfare" is the mere fact that the tax payer even paid them one cent.

  •  John's motives (1+ / 0-)
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    One can only assume he was impressed
    by the success of Cruz's shutdown, or
    something like that.

  •  Impeachment - It is somewhat thinking (0+ / 0-)

    Impeachment on the ACA (Obamacare) is very short sighted and meaningless; regardless of how this law has done nothing to reduce insurance costs, nothing to allow people to keep their insurance, and nothing to stop those who can afford to pay a deductible from paying for those who can't pay their deductible. Having an end result of giving every American nothing more than a major medical plan... It is not grounds for impeachment.

    But what about trading 5 terrorists for one serviceman? Going against ruling by congress, against US policy and laws. Is that enough?

    But hey, as long as the media can concentrate on useless items such as the ACA; they don't have to address the real issues. And why should they, Americans don't care about the real issues.

  •  37% of Morons (1+ / 0-)
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    for some reason there are still at least 37% of Americans that are racist and would rather see the president defeated than the country benefit.  There's just no other explanation

  •  Who the hell are the 37 percent... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...of morons who wouldn't rather see Congress focused on jobs instead of Boehner's pre-impeachment lawsuit?

    The 37% who have a job, and probably good ones.

  •  I really do not like to gloat but watching THE (0+ / 0-)

    Archetypal, Uber-Dirt Bag in all of American History,  Crybaby Boehner, hang himself and his asinine party is rather delicious! Mmmmm....

  •  Polls (0+ / 0-)

    Have you noticed that all the "polls" we read about these days all have the same kinds of results? Each poll result shows such & so percent clustered closely around, and on either side of 50%? 44% to 51%, 40% to 60%, etc. It's because the pollsters all use the same quick & easy, yes/no answer, probability based calculation. They use assumed probabilities to calculate a "representative" sample size, which is usually about 0.0009 PERCENT of the TOTAL relevant population size They ask the yes/no question of the number of people indicated by the calculated sample size,  and claim that the results "fairly"represents what the answers would be from the total population. Hardly statistically significant, and the "results" so calculated can be "pushed" in whatever the direction the pollsters want.

  •  Who are the thirty six percent? (0+ / 0-)

    Redneck Dixie twerp morons that have done nothing but cause this country problems ever since before and after the American Civil War, that's who. The best thing the majority of people in this country can do is to make sure we keep these hayseed nitwits out of our government in every state of the union, forever.

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    by JohnnieZ on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 12:46:32 PM PDT

  •  So a majority of Americans are still smart.... (0+ / 0-)

    Well, that's comforting!

  •  From the pictures supplied with the headline (0+ / 0-)

    it looks like he used to get a lot of things he wanted growing up, by crying about it.

    His mother should have nipped that in the bud!

  •  37 percent (0+ / 0-)

    is a huge number

    ("Who the hell are the 37 percent of morons who wouldn't rather see Congress focused on jobs instead of Boehner's pre-impeachment lawsuit? ")
    but the description seems to define the Tea Party to me:  Less government is always better and if you must have some form of government, make damn sure it doesn't do anything to impede you from making as much money as possible.

    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson/// "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- Aldous Huxley

    by ThePhlebob on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 01:23:42 PM PDT

  •  Retirees (0+ / 0-)

    the older ones, not the recently retired whoever they are, don't care about job creation. Older retirees, who have all the answers, love the TPers and this man.

    •  Retirees...??? (0+ / 0-)

      This is one retiree who despises the TPers and all that they stand for.  I suggest that you paint with a smaller brush lest you appear not to know what you're talking about.  How much older is older?  How long retired?  

  •  To call Boehner a jackass... (0+ / 0-)

    ... is sheer flattery. A Jackass has the sense to stop when the ground is opening up before him, and back away.

  •  Nothing but a boner... (0+ / 0-)

    Boehner has proven himself insignificant as a politician and nothing but a shill for the tea bag party. His 'do nothing' party with their "hell no" response to any and all of Obama's proposals and appointments has rendered Boehner a reputation as nothing but a boner and despite his numerous marital affairs...he's likely a disappointment in that department as well. The Conservative party appears totally unaffected by the growing disdain of not only women in America...but Americans overall. Much to my delight,  Republican politicians continue digging the hole in which to bury their party. Dig deep Republicans, dig deep!

    •  Boehner... (0+ / 0-)

      ...isn't even competent enough to be a shill for the Tea Party.  He's been Speaker for three and a half years and has failed to take responsibility for anything.  Where's the ACA "replace" option, Boehner?  Notice how the GOP just doesn't bring that topic up anymore.

      Bigger Corporations = Smaller Individuals

      by Smeagel4T on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 04:20:50 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Who are the 37%? (0+ / 0-)

    That's hardly a question.  They are the folks who are still upset that there is a Black Man in the White House.  If you match up these numbers with those who are still actively racist they'll correlate completely.

    BTW, that also means that nearly 100% of the non-racists recognize this for exactly what it is, and that's an even better sign.

  •  Good interview on the BBC today... (0+ / 0-)

    ...with people in Kentucky who were indoctrinated into hating Obama, then discovered after 40 years of working hard without health insurance they could FINALLY afford health insurance on Kentucky Connect (the state's ACA exchange).  They're now taking a step back and considering whether they were being too gullible listening to other people.

    Bigger Corporations = Smaller Individuals

    by Smeagel4T on Wed Jul 16, 2014 at 04:19:06 PM PDT

  •  "Heartening?!?!?!?!?!!!!!" (0+ / 0-)
    On the one hand, these results are heartening, because it's always good to know that a solid majority of the country hasn't gone completely bonkers. On the other hand: Who the hell are the 37 percent of morons who wouldn't rather see Congress focused on jobs instead of Boehner's pre-impeachment lawsuit?
    There are more than 200 million people in the US eligible to vote. 37% of them, 74 million people think this poppycock lawsuit is a good use of taxpayer money... and probably 99.99% of those 74 million are the same people who are constantly squealing about how the government wastes money. There is nothing heartening about that to me! "Oh lovely!!! Our nation is only 1/3 completely of its rocker."

    [the malamute shakes head... wanders off bewildered...]

  •  Create jobs???? (0+ / 0-)

    Boehner can't create jobs.  Obama can't create jobs.  The entire Congress, House and Senate working together could not create jobs.  Jobs have been and are being eliminated through various methods. Increased use of technology so fewer people can produce more stuff. (Should we pass a law against this?)  Moving work to countries where the costs are less. (Should we disallow companies based in the US to outsource work to other countries?) Decline in the real wages of workers in the USA so there is less demand for goods and services. (Should we pass a law requiring a living wage and preventing the increase in prices that often goes along with it?) Monopolization of whole classes of businesses to gain "economies of scale", further reducing the number of workers needed. (Should we break up those huge businesses that have become "too big to fail"?)  Those jobs that are increasing in number are about flipping burgers, waiting tables, caring for the disabled and elderly, stocking shelves; all at poverty wages.

    The nature of the American economy now is to drive down the American standard of living to the point where it is equal to or lower than that of those countries where labor is cheaper, while preserving and increasing the profits to the owners of businesses. This is the American way.

    So, when you say to office holders of whatever political persuasion, "create jobs",  what exactly is it that you are talking about?

  •  Infrastructure!!! (0+ / 0-)

        Build and rebuild some roads and bridges, god damn it!!!  Many, many are past the time they were built to last!!!

    •  I know what you mean, jim. There's a bridge I have (0+ / 0-)

      to drive over almost every day. And the concrete guard rails are literally crumbling to pieces. Big chunks have fallen off and the rebar is now exposed. Kinda scary - makes me wonder about when the government is going to sanction and FUND a massive, nationwide effort to take care of all of this that has been neglected for so long.

  •  Who are the 37%-morons prefer spending on lawsuit? (0+ / 0-)

    They've got to the the people trapped in the Bubble of Teabag Insanity that masquerades as legitimate journalism under the moniker, Faux Noise.

    With Faux Noise as their sole source of information, and Faux's uncanny knack at telling exactly what resonates with their viewer's bigotry and ignorance, the truth hasn't got a chance, because it doesn't even have a ticket to get into the Fairgrounds.

    Their shrill, OH, the Outrage!! style of predisposing viewers to have strong negative feelings is activated before they even hear the message itself.

  •  I have a thought.... (0+ / 0-)

    Remember how the impeachment against Clinton shot his approval rating up 30 points?  The way Obama is reacting to this with humor and facts may just do the same for him.

  •  Boehner's folly aka the lawsuit. (0+ / 0-)

    Your last paragraph is exactly my thoughts reading this article. I however cannot believe so many would agree with the Orange man. I realize the numbers shocking as they are reinforces the need to get idiots out of Congress. The do -nothing House does something finally right? But of course they do something that does nothing for the country other than further obstruct let alone pass any legislation on jobs, the infrastructure, Tax Reform, etc.

    How anyone could vote in the coming mid terms and keep theses idiots in DC based upon their track record belies more serious problems to come. The Supreme Court's next appointment will come if not before 2016, surly before the 2020 elections. From my perspective, if a liberal and hopefully Independent person is not the next appointment, the Country and our Freedom will be lost......bc

  •  Some Backfire (0+ / 0-)

    Wow, gee, surveys are telling us nothing new, nor surprising any longer. Sniping about how badly the GOP & Boner are not doing their job of representing their constituency, wasting our hard earned taxpayer money to waste even more taxpayer money, basically treading a fine line bordering on treason... has gotten well beyond stale.

    Where can we, the actual real People, launch investigations and lawsuits against the GOP with the taxes we paid?  Doesn't it seem that if Boner can sue and impeach Obama for no reason that there should be some reason to return the favor with real charges?  Where do we get to say let's spend some of our hard earned tax payments to sue these criminals in office, or seriously look into levying serious and expensive charges against the likes of Boner and his goosestepping GOP comrades?

    Who really wants to sign yet another petition to get these clowns to do some actual work only to have it ignored again while they spend their time and our money farting at the very people they were hired to serve, but obviously hate.  Who wants to contribute to another panicked fundraiser for an election we know well in advance will be super-funded by the super-rich with some of that money the GOP  saved them in taxes, using our taxes to do so?  Who wants another obviously GOP orchestrated stunt which literally mocks and materially damages the very government these charlatans were elected to uphold?

    When do we get some support from the Dems to actually come up with effective solutions that have some actual teeth to take down these clowns for good?  I mean Nixon is the last Republican I can recall being impeached.  Now, following their predictable form, the GOP is looking to impeach their 2nd & subsequent Democratic President, all the while flipping off the entire country.

    The GOP has demonstrated not only how adept they are thwarting our established system of Government, but also their total lack of respect or concern for America and its (real) people.  Anyone else sick of this puerile game of damage-laden GOP stunts followed by toothless responses to the serious damage they accomplish?

  •  To list a few... (0+ / 0-)

    If Boehner does "sue" President Obama, then why shouldn't the President counter-sue for the stealing and wasting taxpayer $$:

    salary for not working yet collecting their salary and health insurance, government shutdown, "repeal" of the ACA, unfounded "investigations"... to list a few over the past eight years.

  •  Like never before ... (0+ / 0-)

    We need All Souls To The Pools.  Think about it ... these so called "Republicans" are doing all they can to minimize - among other things -  voter turnout.

    Let's give them a mid-term surprise ... VOTE !!!

  •  He is just to Dum to be in congress ! I don't n... (0+ / 0-)

    He is just to Dum to be in congress ! I don't no why these people voted him in is like voting a 70 to 80 years old person that is set in there way and no matter what you do for them you can't please them ! Because they are just old and don't want to spend no money unless it's about them and that it ! That who he put me in the mine of ! But he go way behind a older person ! He make me sick and I can't wait until he is out and some of his other jokers in them chairs with him ! What take me out with this man is he is not for the people ! Most of them republicans are not ! And never where ! They are about them self and the rich ! They don't care about the poor or middle class ! They like to spend are money on building up them and the rich ! Why would they not want people to have medical or help with getting back on there feet ! Any body that don't want to help there brother or sister out is crazy ! But they only care for them and people who already have! Is very sick in the head ! Do you no why he so much on that health care because ! Anyone that make over a hundred to a Ihundred and fifty thousand dollars have to help for those with can't pay for medical! And them republicans and rich People make over that so he and his partners in crime do want to help pay for others that can't ! Most of them make over two hundred thousand so he is mad about that ! What he is say let the poor stay poor and let the rich get richer ! But the creator say different in the bible ! He said the first is going to be last and the last will be first ! Meaning one day them that think they are living it up on the high horse is going be walking on foot and the ones that be walking is going to have there horse and be living it up because when you don't care about other people GOD got to bring you back where you came from and let you no how you got where you are from the first place ! And him and them republicans need to be in that place and for a and for a very longtime ! Do and want for other as you would want for yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't like greedy , wicket , rotten people ! Because them kind of people is not due to be trust it ! Them kind of people will kill there own parents or children for a penny ! And that is behind sick in the brain !!!!! !!!! And that is "SATAN ". !!!!

  •  Pull the pin and clutch it near your chest, GOP. (0+ / 0-)

    Way to go. Just keep doing what you're doing, with Hobby Lobby and this bullshit lawsuit and the Government Shutdown which you blamed the liberals for. Just keep going. That's all we need to win. Calling women on birth control 'Sluts' and whatever- alienating perhaps 90-95% of women.

    As the saying goes, if you're running from a bear in the woods, you don't need to outrun the bear, you just need to outrun your friend. Same concept here.
    Liberals don't need an actual majority, they just need a larger turnout than the GOP.

    How I wish I were eligible to vote this midterm. But alas, no. Clinton shall hath my vote, however.

  •  PT Barnum (0+ / 0-)

    The idea that 41% of respondents thought it was "legitimate" is depressing.

  •  Boehner Lawsuit (0+ / 0-)

    Who are the 37 percent   They are the ones who support war, who support the Tea Party, who are on the Right of the Republican Party.  At the start of the Iraq war 1/3 was for and 2/3 were against and when it started it was 2/3 in support and 1/3 opposed.  The middle 1/3 is the key to making progress.  Peace Tom Spelman

  •  If only Obama could impeach Boner for failing (0+ / 0-)

    to his job........ like being a complete failure setting the federal budget for starters.

    Does anyone know why Boner keeps getting reelected? This guy this drunken cry baby is third in line for the presidency!!!!! What the H... are they thinking?

    (Boner was Bush's nickname for the cry baby.)

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