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Two female detainees sleep in a holding cell, as the children are separated by age group and gender, as hundreds of mostly Central American immigrant children are being processed and held at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Nogales Placement C
Two refugee girls sleep in a holding cell, as the children are separated by age group and gender, as hundreds of mostly Central American immigrant children are processed and held at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Senate Democrats are preparing a $2.5 to $2.7 billion funding package to address the humanitarian crisis on the southern border, where thousands of unaccompanied minors have fled brutal violence in their home countries to seek a safe place to live. That's about $1 billion less than requested by the Obama administration, but $1 billion more than House Republicans, who also want to amend a 2008 law that they feel makes it harder to deport the refugee children.

According to Rep. Kay Granger, who is responsible for drafting the House GOP plan, the legislation will ensure that we...

...send the children back as quick as we can.
According to Granger, the president simply wants more money so that he can let the refugees stay in the country, but really, nobody in a position of power is talking about the moral dimensions of sending children back into war zones. Instead, it's just a debate about condemning these kids to the violence from which they fled.

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  •  Despicable! $2.5 Billion to deport them? (5+ / 0-)

    They could live forever on that!

    What am I missing?

    "I'm not a number" --84,414

    by BentLiberal on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 01:33:15 PM PDT

  •  If these kids had come north from Canada, (1+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant

    there would already be TV Benefits for them.

    Funny how coming from the south changes the whole conversation.

    Especially down south where our own country's foreign meddling in years past set the stage for today's violence sending children to our shores.

    For some reason, Lady Liberty is now refusing huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

    Contrary to popular belief, zombies are quite intelligent and excel in anagrams.

    by Patience John on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 01:35:29 PM PDT

  •  Moral dimensions have no place in public policy. (1+ / 0-)
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    JML9999

    SNARK!!!!!

    "The truest measure of compassion lies not in our service of those on the margins, but in our willingness to see ourselves in kinship with them." Father Gregory Boyle, Homeboy Industries

    by Mr MadAsHell on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 01:39:39 PM PDT

  •  I enjoy that we expect countries like Jordan to (9+ / 0-)

    take in millions of refugees from places like Syria, yet this country can't be bothered with 60,000 kids.

  •  At least something can get passed (1+ / 0-)
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    VTelder

    And this will set a precedent where the House and Senate can agree over immigration.

    This isn't great, but it's better than Ted Cruz's bill that would cancel the deportation relief DREAMers have today.

    •  Dems and Repugs agree on lots of things (2+ / 0-)
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      Gentle Giant, VirginiaBlue

      see their recent unanimous votes to keep the bombs dropping on Gaza and their bipartisan support for various other wars. As long as (already-born) kids can potentially be killed, the Republicans are for it and the scumbag democrats will happily go with the (blood) flow. If I hear one more politician who wants (born) children to die talk about their own "morality", I'll puke.

      •  Israel/Palestine is a unique point (2+ / 0-)
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        Gentle Giant, VirginiaBlue

        Where both parties essentially agree on being sellouts to AIPAC et al

        On immigration though, the parties couldn't find any agreement over the past 8+ years, no matter how close it seemed.  

        •  Do think Israel/Palestine is the only (0+ / 0-)

          war that Republicans and Democrats got together on?

          "I'm not a number" --84,414

          by BentLiberal on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 02:06:17 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  I think so (0+ / 0-)

            Iraq had initially the support of almost all Republicans and half of Democrats. With time it dwindled.

            Hardly any Republicans wanted to support the limited operation in Syria. The same was with the 2011 intervention in Libya.

        •  Do not blame AIPAC alone, although it has its bit. (1+ / 0-)
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          bananapouch1

          Blame also all of those Christian Evalgelicals who want Israel to contain every last Jew, so that the Rapture will take them out of here, or at least the Saviour will come and judge the quick and the dead, but, of course, in their version, all of those not Christians will be among the dead.  That they are calling all Jews to Israel so that the events which the CEs believe will kill all of them will occur. The idiocy of the theology does not change the fact that Christians, especially our domestic Evangelicals, are huge supporters of Israel and tell Congressmen all over the country  precisely that all the time.

  •  Can none of them see the danger here? (3+ / 0-)

    Deport just one child back into the Hell from which she or he came,
    and it will be to our everlasting shame.

    This nation has lost its way. It's lost its soul.

    No. This government has.

    These . Are . Children! What nation worthy of the descriptor "great" would turn away a child in need???

    Children.

    Do they not stop to consider just what it is they are about to do, and especially to whom?!?

    How could anyone capable of serving in the legislative branch of the government of what is reportedly the greatest nation on Earth be so monumentally stupid? So cold of heart? So blind to their own careers?

    Yeah. Just what you want- to be known as the guy that turned away a desperate child, no, thousands of desperate children in their greatest moment of need. That'll suit your resumé wonderfully.

    Seriously. Why can't people see something so stark as this, a most blatant and blunt challenge to the character, the soul and the reputation of this nation and its people?
    It's too goddamned obvious to me. Why can't they see it???

    Lead with Love. Forgive as a reflex.

    by Gentle Giant on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 01:47:55 PM PDT

  •  Governors Patrick and O'Malley are the only (6+ / 0-)

    elected officials I've seen make the moral argument for not sending these kids back. It's disgusting that we aren't hearing more Dem politicians making this argument.

    Sinbad on dodging sniper fire in Bosnia - "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"

    by askew on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 01:48:42 PM PDT

  •  Children at the border are refugees, not criminals (4+ / 0-)

    and the same goes for Children in Gaza.

    "The Democrats and the Republicans are equally corrupt where money is concerned. It's only in the amount where the Republicans excel." ~ Will Rogers

    by Lefty Coaster on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 01:53:20 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for using the word "refugee" (3+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant, lcbo, tellthestories

    Too many politicians, and the "news" sources who love them, are referring to these children as "immigrants."  They don't want to admit that the real crisis is what the children are fleeing.

  •  The children in the photo (2+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant, tellthestories

    look as though they are being housed in a dog kennel. (I don't think it's photo shopped.)

  •  Someone will probably write (1+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant

    a diary on this NYT article (if they haven't already; I may have missed it :)

    It's about religious leaders taking a stand on helping the immigrant children. It will probably engender plenty of snarky and skeptical remarks, but I found it heartening, even though I wish political leaders would take a good look in the mirror.

    The comments are interesting. There are a lot. Here are two:

    Americans are a compassionate people. We adopt 3-4 million stray cats and dogs each year. The total number of immigrant children in this wave is about 50,000. If we'd show just a small fraction of the compassion to these children that we do to stray animals, we could get them all into homes.
    Regarding the photo with the tee-shirt reading "who would Jesus deport?"
    The obvious answer is "nobody".
    Because the obvious reason is that Jesus could turn a single fish and a loaf of bread into many to feed the multitudes - at no monetary cost.
    If the religious want to "think of them" as their kids, let them pay for it.
    Don't put it on the backs of US taxpayers who did nothing to create this mess in the first place.
  •  Don't forget! (1+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant

    The United States is a Christian nation founded on Christian ideals.

  •  Who have be become as a nation? (1+ / 0-)
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    tellthestories

    Years of meddling in Latin America, and we take no responsibility?

    Disgusting.

    SPES MEA IN DEO EST.

    by commonmass on Wed Jul 23, 2014 at 02:16:52 PM PDT

  •  Based on the danger these children face... (1+ / 0-)
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    Adolf Verloc

    "the humanitarian crisis on the southern border, where thousands of unaccompanied minors have fled brutal violence in their home countries"

    Then shouldn't we also take all the children in the Middle-East.  Each one of them from Israel to Pakistan is in danger.  Shouldn't we take them all?

    •  Exactly. Conditions in El Salvador or Guatemala (0+ / 0-)

      are paradisiacal compared to Somalia or Syria or South Sudan. This is a clever ploy by unscrupulous parents to get a ticket to the Land of Milk and Honey.

      •  Wow! (0+ / 0-)

        Those clever, clever parents...  I bet when they get a minute, they'll send us a thank you card for the role the US has played in creating the decades of corruption, crime and violence that now make life in their countries so hazardous that they have shipped their children off - without them - to the "land of milk and honey"!

  •  Border Kids, our moral test (1+ / 0-)
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    tellthestories

    The tiny country of Jordan, believes that extending hospitality to any refugee who makes it across their border is their obligation as Muslims.  That policy has not wavered in the face of millions of Syrian refugees.  
    The United States is vastly larger, richer, and  more populous than Jordan, yet we have a vocal faction wanting to send 50,000 refugee children back to war zones.  I say to those who hold this opinion, you have to stop professing any connection to Jesus Christ, or any other main stream religion.  Admit you have no generosity, no compassion, no soul, and care only for you own personal agrandizement. And to those who want to keep calling themselves religious or moral in any way, step up.  This is your moment to prove what you are made of, what you believe, what you stand for.  
    Let's take care of those children, as Jesus, Hillel, Mohammed, Buddah, the Dalai Lama, the Pope, or any other moral figure would demand of us.

  •  Not a red cent until the William Wilberforce Act (0+ / 0-)

    is repealed or greatly modified. I'm with the Republicans on this one.

  •  The children at the border are not criminals.... (0+ / 0-)

    They are indeed refugees.  Nor are the children at the border canines.  They are human beings.  My dog stays in a nicer kennel at the doggie day camp where we board him when we go out of town.  And, he doesn't have to sleep on the floor...  they have cots.  I am so ashamed to live in a country where we could even consider treating dogs better than scared children!

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