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The July Kaiser Health Tracking Poll is out, and it's an old, familiar story with the possible addition of Obamacare fatigue now driving some of that disapproval.

The latest Kaiser Health Tracking Poll finds that over half the public has an unfavorable view of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) in July, up eight percentage points since last month, while the share viewing the law favorably held steady at just under four in ten. A solid majority continues to prefer that Congress work to improve the law rather than repeal and replace it. The uptick in negative views comes at a time when Americans report hearing more negative than positive things about the ACA in advertising and personal conversations, and when large shares of the public want leaders in Washington to pay more attention to other issues like the economy and jobs, the federal budget deficit, education, and immigration.There's also this finding, which shows just how effective the anti-Obamacare narratives have been with a traditional media spending more time on the political fight than on the substance of the law.

Previous tracking polls have found that misperceptions about the ACA are common among the public, and more than four years after the law’s passage this continues to be the case. The July poll finds that fewer than four in ten Americans (37 percent) are aware that people who got new health insurance under the ACA had a choice between private health plans, while about a quarter (26 percent) think the newly insured were enrolled in a single government plan and about four in ten (38 percent) say they don’t know enough to answer the question.
That's just pathetic at this point, and is largely the fault of a traditional media that has completely failed in telling the part of the story that is most relevant to people's lives: how the bill works, what it does—and doesn't—do, and what they can expect if they participate. For what it's worth, people more open to the law understand it better; "Republicans (34 percent) are less likely than Democrats (43 percent) to say that enrollees had a choice of private health plans." But this lack of understanding is a barrier to people who need the law signing up: "Other groups that are less likely to be aware of this fact include those with an unfavorable view of the law (32 percent), self-described conservatives (31 percent), people ages 65 and older (29 percent), and the uninsured (29 percent)."

The major findings of all the previous monthly Kaiser polls stand. The American public is sick to death of hearing about Obamacare and want the Congress to address this bill in good faith and fix the things that need to be fixed, but to focus on the things that are more critical to the country right now.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 01:17 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (34+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 01:17:22 PM PDT

  •  I thought about posting something on this... (12+ / 0-)

    ...but I was just too damned depressed to do so.

    Seriously starting to wonder why I'm even bothering anymore.

  •  You think that's depressing? (4+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    TheGreatLeapForward, RichM, mayim, annieli

    Read the New Yorker's Senate outlook.

    I really can't believe the effectiveness of the Wurlitzer.

    President Ted Cruz would no longer surprise me.

  •  60% want to keep and improve the law. (3+ / 0-)
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    Kathy Scheidel, CoyoteMarti, willynel

    Only 35% want to repeal and replace. After relentless opposition, a solid majority wants the law to stand.

  •  I believe the correct term is disinformation. nt (9+ / 0-)

    Most of the people taking a hard line against us are firmly convinced that they are the last defenders of civilization... The last stronghold of mother, God, home and apple pie and they're full of shit! David Crosby, Journey Thru the Past.

    by Mike S on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 01:43:20 PM PDT

  •  Even pessimistic me... (2+ / 0-)
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    white blitz, paulex

    Thought that these numbers would improve by now.  The bill has been law for 4 years and has been pretty much fully implemented for individuals for months now.  Simply because it is 'here' should be enough to pull the numbers in the positive direction.  But it goes to show - the media in this country is terrible (constant false equivalence at best) and the American people can distinguish between how things ACTUALLY affect them and how politicians scare them into thinking what could happen.  Really, I don't hold out much hope for the next election or any real hope that things are going to get better before the get much much worse.

    “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck (Disputed)

    by RichM on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 01:46:58 PM PDT

  •  How many in this poll want the law to go farther (9+ / 0-)

    and disapprove because they will never be satisfied until they get a public option or single payer?  Kaiser doesn't seem to include reasons for disapproval, so those who want more are included in the same number as those who want less.

    •  They don't want it repealed, yet they want to (4+ / 0-)

      declare that they don't like it. That sounds like double talk to me. If you don't like it, ask for its repeal.

      I believe some of these individuals want to have it both ways. They want the benefits of Obamacare so they don't want it repealed, it could literally mean life and death for them, still they loath giving Obama a positive in their poll responses so they say they don't like it.  

      Some of these people are so called people on the "Left".

      •  this encapsulates that disconnect; (1+ / 0-)
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        Mage11an
        The American public is sick to death of hearing about Obamacare
        BUT
        Previous tracking polls have found that misperceptions about the ACA are common among the public, and more than four years after the law’s passage this continues to be the case.
        I don't know nothin' but I know I don't like it. Dumb and numb.

        Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

        by kamarvt on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 04:32:33 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  exactly (3+ / 0-)
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      nolagrl, BelgianBastard, august88

      approve/disapprove numbers in a vacuum are just a lot of noise.
      but look in a mirror - that noise benefits you as well as them. Sure, there are people who disapprove because the MSM would rather tell stories about the failures of the ACA - whether those failures are actually the fault of the ACA or not - but also there are those who approve of the ACA because everyone likes their insurance until they file a claim.
      Those who disapprove of the ACA because of conservative propaganda should be discounted, but those who disapprove because they have actually experienced the horrors of private health insurance… well, is it really a surprise that the approval numbers have not shot up, with all the sabotage and fraud that anyone should have expected?

    •  forget the f1king polls! (1+ / 0-)
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      cowdab

      They mean nothing.   They are bets, not politics. Push the issue, ignore the candidates.  When you are strong enough, candidates will come to court YOU.

      They are few. You are many.  

      You can have freedom or ignorance. Never both. - me

      by nolagrl on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 06:54:12 PM PDT

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  •  I think a big part of the problem (4+ / 0-)

    is the one I hear from friends and coworkers who already had insurance before the ACA, and that is the fact that premiums keep going up, and out of pocket costs keep rising.  Here at my work, we just had to switch insurers because Blue Shield was increasing premiums by over 30%.  And even under the new insurers, the younger employees are getting big premium hikes due in no small measure to the community rating measures in the ACA, which will lower premiums for older workers, a very good thing, but the younger ones sure aren't happy.  And even the older ones like my coworker Pamela are still miffed at the fact that her preferred doctor isn't in our new insurer's network, and her out of pocket costs will increase.  She's a liberal Obama supporter, but as she said to me, "What happened to the 'affordable' part of the Affordable Care Act?".

    To be clear, I'm a big supporter of the ACA - I spent many weekends helping people sign up for Covered California, my uncle and mom now have coverage due to the ACA.  The law is a great thing for the previously uninsured.  But from the perspective of the already insured, the ACA hasn't lowered their premiums and health care costs, in many cases it has caused premiums to increase.  That's where I think disgruntlement with the ACA lies.  If we want the ACA to get more public suppport, costs need to be brought down for more Americans.  

    •  Trouble is that any 'slowing' of premium hikes ... (11+ / 0-)

      When they do slow down, are still hikes.

      And given the GOP and its media microphone, any hike now has a blame-target: the ACA.

      Nonsense of course, but this the Idiocracy and the media is a sad, angering joke.

    •  Healthcare costs aren't going to drop when the ... (4+ / 0-)

      Healthcare costs aren't going to drop when the law has been in effect for only four years and the major portion, the individual mandate, only 6 months.

      America spends something like 16% of GDP on healthcare annually, which was $3.3 Trillion (yes with a T) last year. How quickly does one expect a $3 trillion a year industry that has been lightly regulated on the federal level to improve cost-wise when just last year we had some 47 million uninsured and hundreds of billions of dollars of uncompensated care driving prices up for everyone else? Perhaps 5-10 years from now when the insured rate is in the high 80s or low 90s percentage wise, and some of the price control mechanisms and Medicare payment reforms actually shift the industry away from a fee for service model which actually rewards inefficient, duplicative, unnecessary encounters to one which pays for quality and encourages efficient, integrated care.

      The affordable part of the affordable care act is actually beginning to be realized as healthcare inflation has slowed dramatically, although it's debatable on how much of that is to a recessionary/recovering economy or the ACA. But insurance premiums won't drop until the cost of care is lowered.

    •  Boo Hoo. we are shifting part of the cost of Labor (2+ / 0-)
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      BelgianBastard, Mage11an

      back onto investment capital, where it belongs.

      Labor is part of the cost of doing business.  Bessemer was there long before Rand's infantile protagonist.  He didn't change his own diapers, or dig the hole he shat in.

      Labor.  Without Labor, there is no Capital.  

      You can have freedom or ignorance. Never both. - me

      by nolagrl on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 07:02:09 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I agree. (1+ / 0-)
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        paulex

        I would add, though, that getting business out of  providing health care (though still paying taxes to subsidize health care) would be a win for government, workers and business.

        A business would'nt go bankrupt because it can't pay HC costs, workers of that company wouldn't lose their jobs and ex-workers wouldn't lose benefits. Governnent wins when business and workers win. More taxes to pay for stuff, less money spent on cleaning up the mess.

        I ride the wild horse .

        by BelgianBastard on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 07:51:44 PM PDT

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    •  SINGLE PAYER (0+ / 0-)

      The way out of the rising cost is to cover people through a single payer.  Medicare is the most cost-effective way to give everyone insurance.  
      Problem is then that insurance companies wouldn't get their cut for doing something the federal government already knows how to do on the cheap.  Why should we pay them for something seniors get for a fraction of the price?
      Besides that, it was expected to be expensive at first as the uninsured pile on with untreated problems.  After all are under good solid care and all their urgent needs are taken care of, then we'll see how it goes.  At least a couple more years before we can tell for sure.

      "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

      by cowdab on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 07:28:44 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  why no single payer (2+ / 0-)
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        Mage11an, cowdab

        seems related to; why private contractors in the military?
        Why private contractors in surveillance?
        Why private toll roads?
        Why charter schools?
        Why bankster middlemen in student loans?
        Why no-bid contracts?

        Because those are the constituents who are serviced by our political class. It's all welfare for the connected.

        Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

        by kamarvt on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 04:38:51 AM PDT

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    •  You mean before ACA your out of pocket costs (2+ / 0-)
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      contrariandy, august88

      and what you paid from your salary wasn't rising?  Rhetorical question ... Of course it was.  It's just that the right wing have been successful in transferring blame to the ACA.  The real culprit is a crazy for profit health care system.  As long as we keep the core of that system intact, it will be hard / impossible to bring consumer costs down.

      "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Riane Eisler

      by noofsh on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 04:25:01 AM PDT

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    •  Insurance for the young now guaranteed until 65 (1+ / 0-)
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      august88

      There's a cost for getting guaranteed coverage and it's well worth having versus not knowing if you and yours will be insurable next year.

    •  Some people seeing savings on premiums (1+ / 0-)
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      august88

      One of my family members ( she and her husband don't like Obama ) made a quiet confession to me. She said they were paying $1800 a month for family coverage. Both had pre-existing conditions. Once they enrolled in the exchange their premiums went down to $800. She said something like, "Well, we are probably the only ones who actually benefited. I'm still not a fan of his."

      When I went to talk to our benefits coordinator, she showed me what my monthly payments would be once I retired. She looked at me and said, "This is only the second time since I've been here that this has ever gone down."

      I could tell it took a lot for both of these women to admit that the ACA is not the evil thing the GOP and right-wing media is portraying it to be.

      Seniors are seeing the price of prescription drugs go down and the donut hole close, but I would bet that many will never connect it to the ACA.

      If these people were asked to participate in this poll, I'd say they don't want to admit it helps or they don't really know how they've benefited.

       

    •  How quickly people forget (0+ / 0-)

      Rising premiums and reduced service has been a feature of corporate sponsored insurance plans for the last decade or so.  Now they are blaming them on the ACA, because they can, but I worked at a firm in the early 2000's that changed insurance companies each of the four years I worked for them, resulting in my having to change doctors twice to stay in network, increased deductibles and co-pays each time, and the CEO would always talk about how they were "struggling" to be able to continue to offer insurance as an employment benefit.  I had a friend in HR who said that each change resulted in a significant cost reduction, and that they were doing primarily it as a negotiation tactic with the insurance companies, and that the quality of the insurance wasn't particularly important the C-suite, so long as they could say that they offered insurance, they would get the job applicants they needed.

  •  People Will Not Like Obamacare Until Someone (10+ / 0-)

    threatens to take it away from them.  Than all hell will break lose.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 03:33:50 PM PDT

    •  57 threats from House of representatives (0+ / 0-)

      (so far) and elebenty brazillion from RW loudmouths.
      C'mon, hell, you're late.

      Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

      by kamarvt on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 04:40:21 AM PDT

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  •  I am grateful for the Affordable Care Act for t... (2+ / 0-)
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    white blitz, contrariandy

    I am grateful for the Affordable Care Act for this reason: I do not have to take COBRA after losing my job. My shiny new marketplace policy took effect today. It's as comprehensive as the one I had at work, except it's BCBS, so all my doctors are in-network. (When we changed insurers at my previous company, the one I see most often was no longer in-network) Thanks to the ACA, I didn't have to worry about being turned down for any pre-existing condition - I could pick whichever plan I wanted. (When I left a job to return to school full-time in 2001, I couldn't get anything except a terrible short-term policy. Back then insurers could -and did- refuse to insure you if you had ever been treated for any mental health condition, no matter how long ago) With the small subsidy I get, I am paying just a bit more than I did when we had BCBS as our insurer at work, and $200/month less than COBRA would have cost. Anyone who thinks the old way was better obviously never had to worry about finding their own insurance.

  •  It's all teh Mooslim Neegro's fault. (3+ / 0-)

    Of course.

    GOVERMENT KEEP YORE HANDS OFF MY MEDICAIRE.

    I WANT MY COUNTREE BACK

  •  May not be misinformation, but poor questions (0+ / 0-)
    fewer than four in ten Americans (37 percent) are aware that people who got new health insurance under the ACA had a choice between private health plans, while about a quarter (26 percent) think the newly insured were enrolled in a single government plan and about four in ten (38 percent) say they don’t know enough to answer the question.
    1. In some places, the number of choices was quite limited. (I had a choice among Blue Cross plans -- but the only non-Blue choice was the local health clinics, not another insurance company.)
    2. Since more than half the newly insured are actually in Medicaid, they were in fact enrolled in "a single government plan."

    So you could know quite a lot, and depending on how the questions were worded, still give the "wrong" answer.  

  •  another win for republican radio! too bad none (0+ / 0-)

    of the pollsters quantify their polling results with that very important question

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 05:06:37 PM PDT

  •  I don't see any real problem here. (4+ / 0-)
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    annieli, cowdab, kansaster, august88

    Nobody who would otherwise vote Democratic is going to vote Republican, or even stay home, because of Obamacare.  Some people who would otherwise vote Republican, however, will vote Democratic or stay home, because now they're insured. Obamacare is a small but significant net gain for Democrats.  And this notion that the media should do the government's job in promoting Obamacare is just silly.  The government has sufficient tools at its disposal, but doesn't use them because it's too timid.

    It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

    by Rich in PA on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 06:25:45 PM PDT

  •  "Yore"? Isn't that a brand of 'period' furniture (2+ / 0-)
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    lotac, slksfca

    ... they sell at Pottery Barn?

    I ride the wild horse .

    by BelgianBastard on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 06:44:18 PM PDT

  •  This is an improvement over you're (0+ / 0-)

    I just want to live somewhere warm. Is that so wrong?

    by lotac on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 06:54:33 PM PDT

  •  That sign is (2+ / 0-)
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    GrantR, contrariandy

    just pathetic.

    I am sick and tired of the R bias in the media that continues to cater to the ignorant folks who only hear what they have been programmed to hear by their puppetmasters.   When real facts conflict with their closely held racist beliefs they just can't hear.

    Between the House with their continuing efforts to repeal the ACA and the fools who refuse to understand that the law is working despite all the effort to undermine it I just can't deal.

  •  I know a Tea Partier ... (2+ / 0-)
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    Decorina, BelgianBastard

    who swears her husband has had to pay for their 25- year-old's health insurance on his company plan for the last two years even though the son is a graduate of the Air Force Academy and is an officer in the Air Force.  And she swears her husband's company insurance recently cancelled his follow up colonoscopy after he had polyps removed because of Obamacare.  Nothing will convince her otherwise.

    Freedom of speech, in my view, does not mean the freedom to buy the United States government -- Bernie Sanders

    by OnePingOnly on Fri Aug 01, 2014 at 07:32:56 PM PDT

  •  You'd think that people would try to find out j... (1+ / 0-)
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    contrariandy

    You'd think that people would try to find out just what AHA really does instead of listening to the professional liars who want to destroy it. Never mind that every other advance nation has national health care. Never mind that it will reduce health care costs, save lives, reduce suffering and improve care for millions. These Republican pricks would have people believe that it's socialism and therefore "unamerican". Also it's Obama's plan and that's why it can't be any good. Even though it was actually former Governor Mitt Romey's plan in Massachusetts.

    I live in Massachusetts and I have been insured through by Healthnet, a private insurance company under MassHealth for 3 years. I pay a reasonable, income-adjusted premium each month and I have had excellent health care under this system. I am self-employed and I no longer need to worry about health care. This system works very well and had been a great relief from the mess that providing myself with a health care plan before MassHealth was made law here in Massachusetts. The ACA nearly the same exact plan. Once people get the facts, they will embrace the plan as I have. It's actually really good and easy to deal with.

  •  Idiocy of the public knows no limits (1+ / 0-)
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    Mage11an

    Sure they hear Republicans say it's terrible over and over (throw in a couple of right wing judges to make a ridiculous decision) and now it's bad again.

    These people who say its bad probably don't know anything about the positive results.

    It's pathetic.  It's a right wing bubble we live in.

    "The real wealth of a nation consists of the contributions of its people and nature." -- Riane Eisler

    by noofsh on Sat Aug 02, 2014 at 04:19:40 AM PDT

  •  One of the faults of Dems and the Media was the (0+ / 0-)

    failure to address, or better yet pre-address, the Medicare Part C issue that became "Don't steal from Medicare".  

    In fact it was the Republicans who had stolen from Medicare to give a robust and unnecessary excess profit to the Part C Medicare Advantage insurers who were covering only 10% of Medicare insureds.  That was the actual stolen Medicare money; that was the actual outrage that the public should have been upset about;  the Republicans stole from the other 90% of Medicare insureds and gave the money to the insurers so that they would have extra profits.  The ACA provision clawed it back and the Republicans are still getting away with lying about it.  

    Shame on the Republicans but also on the Democratic Party and the Media who allow RighTeas to get away with every lie no matter how outrageous.

  •  Of course... (0+ / 0-)

    ...the polls don't tell the whole story.

    I didn't view the Kaiser results (in their entirety).  I don't know if they broke them down by geography.

    But what we DO know, for certain, is that some very large number of Red States declined to participate in the benefits of the ACA.  Governors, legislators, and politicians of all right-wing varieties in those states continue to withhold ACA benefits from their constituencies, while outright lying about it.

    I strongly suspect that, were the ACA's programs to be implemented everywhere in the USA, the poll numbers would be higher.  The poll results are skewed by citizens who think they understand the ACA -- when, in reality, they've been brainwashed by state government and Fox "News".

  •  The media shares the blame w/GOP and Obama Admin. (0+ / 0-)

    The media fed into the misinformation from the right but the Obama Admin did a piss poor job of explaining the law which was exacerbated by their own misinformation campaign "if you like your insurance . . .", and the disastrous roll out.

  •  ACA perceptions - can't we do something? (1+ / 0-)
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    belinda ridgewood

    Joan, I really appreciated your recent article about misinformation about the ACA.

    It reminds me of 2010.  Obama and the stimulus plan were helping.  But the right dominated the messaging and used deficits and ACA myths to energize their newly formed crazy base (remember "HYPERINFLATION!!")  Democrats let the right dominate the messaging, ran away from the stimulus and ACA without providing an intelligent response, and they got slaughtered.

    2014 is feeling eerily similar.  Obamacare is doing great things, the right is dominating the messaging (per the polls) and democrats are remaining silent.  

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I believe opinion about Obamacare will determine 2014 outcomes.  Very few normal people like the Republicans (shutdowns, law suits, "no ideas"), but because they feel the Democrats blew it with the ACA, they aren't willing to give them congress.

    We need a campaign: "Obamacare Works."  Can your contacts at Daily Kos start a petition asking people to sign if they or a close friend or relative have benefitted?  (We all have in some way.) I would have to think that of Daily Kos' 3.5 million viewers, we can get at least 1 million signers.  Then we can see if Priorities USA will fund some publicity around this... "Are one million people wrong?"  Bumper stickers?  PR stories?  

    The reality needs to get out.  If we sit on our hands, 2014 will be another disappointment/disaster.

     

    •  Thanks for your first comment, DeaninOH. (0+ / 0-)

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      by belinda ridgewood on Mon Aug 04, 2014 at 09:21:23 PM PDT

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  •  Previous polls have distinguished (0+ / 0-)

    between the people who disliked the bill because they felt it didn't go far enough and those who wanted it scrapped altogether.  This one doesn't seem to have asked those questions.  Seems a glaring error, to me.

    The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men - - Plato . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We must be the change we wish to see in the world - - Mohandas Gandhi

    by twocrows1023 on Mon Aug 04, 2014 at 05:00:34 PM PDT

  •  What happened to public service announcements? ... (1+ / 0-)
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    belinda ridgewood

    What happened to public service announcements? Why not use this tool to inform the public? Also, couldn't Biden do something to tour and inform and encourage it's use?

  •  Misinformation (0+ / 0-)

    "The latest Kaiser Health Tracking Poll finds that over half the public has an unfavorable view of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) in July, up eight percentage points since last month, while the share viewing the law favorably held steady at just under four in ten."

    Folks believe what they want to believe. The waning favor self truth over fact, and do so through the filter of lotsabucks coming from talk/visual media newsesque entertainment shows. The four in 10 steady are probably the more critical thinkers who research and rely on facs. The signage in the photo would seem to indicate a lack of basic communication skills, the perfect prey for carnival activists.

  •  Just this week I had to debate people online (0+ / 0-)

    who seriously believe that this one woman's claim that her co-pay went from $25 per visit to $88 because of the preventative care items her insurance now had to carry for free was true. (as usual no real details were provided as is now the standard for any Obamacare horror story)

    Their leading argument being "nothing is actually free"

    and they seemed unmoved at the logical anomaly created by charging more to pay for a free service.

    So for real there is still much that is not known to the general public about this law. many of the people I work with here in Texas still believe Obamacare is a heathcare plan like medicare. As in the statement, "They are gonna try an put us on that Obamacare.", or "Maybe I'll go see if I can get me some of that Obamacare."

    New Plan: Obamacare Old Plan: Nobodycares

    by groupw on Tue Aug 05, 2014 at 08:47:52 AM PDT

  •  ACA and the Freedom of the Press (0+ / 0-)

    I feel that one of the greatest weakness we have is our inability to do critical thinking.  It is difficult to figure out what is correct when everything is subject to false equivocation.  Flat earthers and climate scientists get equal treatment.  The press has to take some responsibility and stop pretending everything is just a point of view.

    •  Freedom of the Press (0+ / 0-)

      would require audiences with keen critical thinking skills, one would think.  Or?

      Funny how those dots are never connected.

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      by a gilas girl on Wed Aug 06, 2014 at 04:37:07 AM PDT

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