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Congressman Bobby Schilling (R-IL) delivers the Weekly Republican Address.
Bobby Schilling, living the hardscrabble life
What is it with members (and former members) of Congress complaining about how little they earn? The latest is GOP ex-Rep. Bobby Schilling, who's seeking his old seat against Democratic Rep. Cheri Bustos in Illinois' 17th District. In a recent radio interview, Schilling, who made $174,000 while serving in the House and still pulled down a healthy $100,000 last year in the private sector, complains that he's living hand-to-mouth:
"These increases, these are on our working poor, our middle class, hardworking taxpayers here across the United States of America. And now these folks are going to have to decide am I going to pay this premium or am I going to go buy some milk and groceries for the house. It's really getting tough for everyone. Everyone that I talk to, I don't hear them saying 'hey, I'm doing great'.

And the folks that are living paycheck-to-paycheck, which is most Americans, including myself, is that, you know, this is not something that you want to be putting out when you've got a kid that wants to play sports or you want to take a trip for vacation. Instead, you've got to funnel your money over to Obamacare, which is something you might never have to use."

Schilling joins a long list of congressional whiners, including Rep. Sean Duffy (R-WI), Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA), Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA), and Rep. Steve Southerland (R-FL), who've all complained about how painfully little they earn. That's only the most recent batch, though. There's a long tradition stretching back to the late ex-Rep. Fred Heineman, who 20 years ago infamously declared that a person making $80,000 a year was "lower middle class." Oh, the inhumanity!

But as Rich Miller points out, Schilling didn't just earn six figures last year—he also listed assets totaling between $254,000 and $660,000 dollars on his financial disclosure forms. What's more, his earnings were almost two-and-a-half times the median $42,500 income in his district.

And exactly what is Schilling complaining about here? The Affordable Care Act, which helps alleviate stress on lower-income Americans by giving them access to health insurance and, in most cases, generous subsidies to defray its cost. So yeah, by all means, let's get rid of a program designed to help folks who actually are living paycheck-to-paycheck. That'll help a lot, I'm sure.

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  •  Schilling is a shill. (34+ / 0-)

    Bustos is no prize, but we will be moving into the 17th in the near future, and I'd rather have her in the seat than Schilling. Illinois doesn't need another Don Manzullo.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:13:52 AM PDT

  •  This guy is douchey, but it's entirely possible (8+ / 0-)

    for him to be living paycheck-to-paycheck...but as you make more money, it's increasingly likely living that way is a result of current or past financial decisions. Professional athletes are another group where this is often the case.

    While you dream of Utopia, we're here on Earth, getting things done.

    by GoGoGoEverton on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:13:58 AM PDT

  •  Well, there are plenty of places where (10+ / 0-)

    $100k would be paycheck to paycheck if one had a family and normal middle class expenses, maybe even most places. That might be hard for some to appreciate, but it's true.

    But, that does not mean they are living poorly. That's vastly different and much, much worse. And, in those same areas where $100k is paycheck to paycheck...with a middle class lifestyle...there are millions well below that income who basically live without hope their financial situation can ever improve.

    Of the almost 1,900 dead Palestinians, the IDF said it killed "900 terrorists" in Gaza. Add that to its long list of lies.

    by pajoly on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:16:24 AM PDT

    •  The French Riviera, for example.... (5+ / 0-)
      •  Or central NJ for instance....unless you consider (5+ / 0-)

        Raritan Bay and the Arthur Kill as the Northeast's Riviera....

        •  The Northeast's Riviera... (6+ / 0-)

          As someone who spent her high school years sort of near there... that's hilarious.

          I have NO pity for anyone who makes even half that amount of money per year and complains. Try living below $20K for a decade or two. You wanna know what my vacation is this summer? The occasional afternoon nap. And one whole day-trip a few weeks ago where my brother did the driving. That's it buster!

          •  And I bet it's still nicer than the area I (2+ / 0-)
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            JeffW, NoMoreLies

            mentioned....and cheaper too! Just to give an example, I live near a highway two doors from a tire shop and a stinky auto body shop. My property taxes are 11 k. You'd starve to death on 20 k here. Ya know, there was a time when the Arthur Kill in NJ WAS a resort in the 1890's...once cars and trains came into use people headed further down the shore. So the oil companies bought the properties for storage tanks and refineries. They are just starting to recover, though signs prominently warn you not to fish or eat the fish there. Understand, the signs say do not even fish there... I will not be retiring here, should I still get a pension that the governor is fighting to steal from me.

            •  There was a time--- (2+ / 0-)

              There was a time not that long ago when driving past the Arthur Kill was so foul that my parents used to tell us it was "Pig Farms"

              Um--no.  

              I am SO glad we left Jersey when we did even if I am not in love with a lot of things in NY--but our taxes are a third of yours and we have a killer view and altho we prob would have made more money if we stayed the cost of living there would mean we would have had much LESS in terms of spending power.

              And now planning on moving to a place with MUCH lower taxes and warmer too!

              And this guy SHOULD be forced to live like one of his lowest income constituents for a month or so---that would stop his bitchen' right damn quick.

          •  Just because it isn't your paycheck (0+ / 0-)

            doesn't mean they can't live paycheck to paycheck. It's just not yours.

            I've supported a family of 3 (at the time) on less than 40k. I know the sacrifices we had to make.

            I also know that now that I can afford other and better things, that they are worth it, and I bet that if you made more money, you would like to have a few more services/goods (better/safer housing, more reliable cars, even cell phones, the list goes on) of some sort to make your life easier. You wouldn't have your vacation being a nap.

            He didn't say he was poor, he said paycheck to paycheck. Now, we can claim that, no, he really doesn't live paycheck to paycheck because of all his assets, more than one home, etc etc, but don't bring out the bile for people who make more money than you that still live paycheck to paycheck.

            Life is hard whether you make $20,000 or $120,000. Don't mix up who the real opponent is.

            There is no "path" to choose. The path is what is behind you that led you to today. What lies in front of you is not a fork in the road - not a choice of paths to take, but rather an empty field for you to blaze your own direction.

            by cbabob on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:05:55 AM PDT

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            •  But again, (2+ / 0-)
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              JeffW, asterkitty

              would he learn from his experience and propose ways to make things a little easier for other folks whose paychecks aren't quite as substantial? Or would he return to "I got mine, screw you" which is the usual Republican approach to the social safety net?

              I'm not holding my breath for the former.

              There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

              by Cali Scribe on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:21:46 AM PDT

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              •  I vividly remember (2+ / 0-)
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                the days of juggling the bills, setting my order of payments:
                rent, then electricity, insurance, then all the others, and delaying and paying some things late, etc.

                We made a lot of money the past couple years and were able to save like crazy, now we make less, but still a very substantial amount because my wife quit to start her own company.

                Maybe that is the difference. I remember what it was like relying on medicaid, then struggling at 40,000 for a family. How it felt dealing with bankruptcy. How 90,000 can still be a struggle to some with so many bills; like student loans for 2 and a house you want to feel safe in (structurally and emotionally) and stretching a budget to reach that.

                I'm just not going to begrudge someone because I can't fathom how they can't make it on $X income, because I've been at all these levels at some point in my life.

                There is no "path" to choose. The path is what is behind you that led you to today. What lies in front of you is not a fork in the road - not a choice of paths to take, but rather an empty field for you to blaze your own direction.

                by cbabob on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:47:27 AM PDT

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                •  But you wouldn't pretend, as he does (4+ / 0-)

                  He's equating having to maybe foregoing vacation with the problem of whether there's money to buy food. He's saying poor people should be able to not have insurance because "they might not ever use it."

                  And, since  he's running as a Republican, he wants to be able to go to Washington to help make sure poor and middle class people can't get health insurance.

                •  You could afford insurance? (1+ / 0-)
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                  I had many years of driving without insurance because it was simply something I only MIGHT need... whereas food, electricity, rent, diapers... those things I DEFINITELY needed.

                  Anybody who has "assets", whether it be property, stocks or even just a savings account is NOT living paycheck-to-paycheck.

                  When a person who has a moderate catastrophe, such as a car breaking down, illness, natural disaster, etc., begrudgingly has to dip into their savings, cash some bonds or take on a 2nd or 3rd mortgage, it's tough, yes....

                  But when a person living paycheck-to-paycheck has a moderate catastrophe, they miss meals, lose services, get evicted, or if they're really lucky, can beg their way into a payment plan to stretch out those pains.

                  It's quite simply not the same thing.

                  Never trust anyone who considers "bleeding heart" to be an insult.

                  by jayfrenchstudios on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 03:07:44 AM PDT

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                  •  No insurance = no car. (0+ / 0-)

                    NC has a law, so yes, I had insurance. Insurance was not something you could skip out on.

                    I needed the car to make the money to buy the diapers, the rent, electricity, etc etc etc.

                    $37/month. I hated paying it.

                    However, I could not afford tires, so they only got replaced when they failed the safety inspection (which I usually did 3 months late), and those were purchased on credit, which ended up later being discharged by bankruptcy.

                    Since you were comparing the state of "who had it worse," does this satiate your desire to show that things were tough enough for your tastes?

                    ...

                    My wife came from much worse conditions than what we were living in then - they went weeks eating a can of beans per night - for the 5 of them (4 kids and a single mother) so she thought this wasn't actually that bad.

                    There is no "path" to choose. The path is what is behind you that led you to today. What lies in front of you is not a fork in the road - not a choice of paths to take, but rather an empty field for you to blaze your own direction.

                    by cbabob on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 06:09:39 AM PDT

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                    •  Didn't mean to play a "who had it worse" game (0+ / 0-)

                      Sorry if I gave that impression.  Though I was in Texas which also has a law on car insurance, but you only got penalized for that if you were pulled over and caught driving uninsured.  It was a risk I had no choice but to take at the time (the rare times I actually had a car, that is).

                      Anyway, my point was not to brag about my poverty, but that the term "paycheck to paycheck" obviously suggests that there is NO cushion... that the next paycheck is the ONLY thing that can be relied upon.

                      I don't even disregard the concept that someone making $100K can still be in this situation, but... this jerk has assets... that are increasing.  This means he has a cushion.

                      So, the term just does not apply to him.

                      Also... been there on the tires thing.  No fun.

                      Never trust anyone who considers "bleeding heart" to be an insult.

                      by jayfrenchstudios on Mon Aug 11, 2014 at 08:41:58 AM PDT

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            •  Living "paycheck to paycheck" isn't the same as (1+ / 0-)
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              "being poor" . . . I make approximately the same salary as Schilling (don't know exactly, but ballpark).  I also live in the most expensive housing market in the country (SF Bay Area) where renting a one-bedroom apartment in a middle-class area with lots of working families costs nearly $1700 per month.  My brother in the Midwest could rent a similar apartment for around $600 per month. I'm supporting two kids in college, helping family members who are out of work, trying to save for retirement, and paying other expenses based on life choices I've made over the years.  Money is tight at the end of each month.  I can't afford to buy a house, and if my car died I'd have a hard time affording a new one.  I still buy most of my clothes at thrift stores and clip coupons so that I can stretch my grocery budget. So I do live "paycheck to paycheck".

              Does that make me "poor"? No. I've never had to go without meals; I've never had an extended period of unemployment; I've never had to make the choice between paying my utilities and putting food on the table; I had a good college education and I'm currently in a graduate program myself.

              But I also don't try to minimize the advantages I have - I try to USE them to help others, because I've received a lot of help myself over the years from both individuals (family, friends) and society (student loans and financial aid, tax breaks, etc.)

              That's the key difference between progressives and conservatives, IMO:  Progressives recognize that while disparities exist, those who have more have a responsibility to help those who have less.  Conservatives think that those who have more deserve it, and those who have less, deserve it also - so they have no responsibility to help them, since they should be able to help themselves.

          •  This guy is a total douche (2+ / 0-)

            and out of touch with reality, as is most of his party. Ignoring him though, please don't judge anyone else by how much they make. Just because someone makes 20k, 40k or more, that doesn't give you the right to judge them when you don't know their situation.

            I make more than 20k and don't have kids (just me, my boyfriend and dog) but there have been times when we have had to live paycheck to paycheck.

            We both have had some serious medical problems which required surgeries (and I have conditions that require ongoing monitoring and treatment). I had insurance (which covered some but not enough of the cost) and he had no insurance. Taking out an appendix with no insurance isn't cheap. Even now we struggle because his current employer doesn't offer insurance and with us living in Brownbakistan (KS) he can't afford a plan through the exchanges. We could move but I have a pretty good job and don't want to lose that opportunity. At least one us needs to stay in a good job.

            Again, I still think this guy is a douche nozzle who would likely deny everyone any kind of assistance (which is messed up) so he probably should STFU. I just don't see any need for the rest of us to attack each other.

      •  Or N. Va or DC (4+ / 0-)

        Where he will keep a residence, along with a residence in his home district.

        I didn't take that kind of shit seriously until I was stationed in DC.  20 years ago starter homes 45 minutes out from DC started at about $150K.

      •  Pretty much any major urban or suburban area (1+ / 0-)
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        JeffW

        Of the almost 1,900 dead Palestinians, the IDF said it killed "900 terrorists" in Gaza. Add that to its long list of lies.

        by pajoly on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:41:47 AM PDT

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      •  Most of California, Hawaii and the NYC (1+ / 0-)
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        JeffW

        metro area.

    •  As someone who makes far less than $100K (12+ / 0-)

      I get really tired of people like you telling me I'm living without hope.

      Clearly you don't know how to budget.

      I live in Philadelphia, it is not a cheap city.  Despite that, I go on annual vacations, own two houses, have health insurance, eat just fine, and give my son the things he needs.

      And you know what?  I have plenty of hope for the future, whether or not I ever break the $100k barrier, and break into the breathing room you think it buys.

      Plenty of people making $10 million are living paycheck to paycheck.  That's because they don't know how to budget and continually spend as much as they make on stupid crap that they don't need.  It doesn't mean everyone making less than $10 million a year is living a hopeless life and we're all doomed to die in pain and suffering.

      If a guy can't figure out how to make $100K a year last and build up a nice nest egg for the future, the last thing you should be doing is running our federal budget.  It's jacked up enough already.

      •  You're doing a lot better in Philly than I am (7+ / 0-)

        (howdy neighbor), but you are so very right about budgeting. I just want to slap them upside the head, then sit down with them, make their budget work with plenty of breathing space, and then give them a lecture about having a little gratitude.

      •  Exactly. GOP-ers demand balanced budgets (5+ / 0-)
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        apissedant, hbk, JeffW, lcbo, raspberryberet

        when Dems are in office. They demand "pay-fors" for every expense. But this guy can't live off $100 grand a year? Give me that money and I will do just fine.

        For Christina's America

        by DWKING on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:10:01 AM PDT

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        •  We made it okay on half that amount (3+ / 0-)
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          JeffW, apissedant, raspberryberet

          before Mr. Scribe retired, and that's here in Silicon Valley. (Not having kids is probably the biggest money saver -- good thing neither of us were born with the parental gene.)

          There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

          by Cali Scribe on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:27:54 AM PDT

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          •  Then your experience means little since (2+ / 0-)
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            JeffW, NoMoreLies

            most people have families. A one bedroom provides you plenty of space. Your healthcare costs are a fraction of others. You have no child care expenses (over $1k a kid in the Bay Area). Your food bills are tiny. You have no expenses related to extra curricular things (Want your kids to play a sport? Open your wallet.)

            A couple can make do with very little pretty much anywhere.

            Of the almost 1,900 dead Palestinians, the IDF said it killed "900 terrorists" in Gaza. Add that to its long list of lies.

            by pajoly on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:40:09 AM PDT

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            •  Feeding kids is cheaper than feeding adults (1+ / 0-)
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              NoBlueSkies

              And a healthcare policy for 2 people is about the exact same cost as a healthcare policy for 5 or even 10 people.  Most healthcare policies are either individual or family plans.  Typically, after adding the 3rd person, it adds $0 in additional premiums.  All you'll be liable for are the added copays, though you'll still have the exact same out of pocket maximum.

              Yes, it is cheaper to not have kids than to have kids, but telling someone their experience means "nothing" and blah blah blah is absolute crap.  Your average family in California is making $60K work for their entire family.  Looking down on them and discounting their experience is crap.  Sure, some may have to live half an hour or so away from work and commute due to housing prices.  Living downtown or in the most lustrous neighborhood is not a requirement of life.

              •  The person was using his/her example (1+ / 0-)
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                SGA

                as a couple being able to live off a certain amount and criticizing others for not being able to do so, when the other likely has a family. Criticizing a family for living paycheck to paycheck on an amount that might enable a couple to live rather well is not a fair criticism.

                I never "looked down" on any family's experience. I did say the experience of a couple is not relevant to that of a family when it comes to budgets. Even your criticism ignores the biggest non-housing hit a family faces and that's child care. I note you conveniently left that out of your detailed itemization about how cheap it is for a family to live.

                You also make some irrelevant point about "the most lustrous neighborhood;" WTF are you talking about? Who is discussing luxury neighborhoods. Apparently, you don't know jack about the Silicon Valley. There was nothing lustrous about mine, even with an $860k house that needed a complete redo as it's original elements were near falling apart. Put that home where I live now and it'd be $130k tops. The issue with the Silicon Valley (and that encompasses  many towns) is that there is NO place that's affordable; it has zero to do with a place being luxurious.

                Of the almost 1,900 dead Palestinians, the IDF said it killed "900 terrorists" in Gaza. Add that to its long list of lies.

                by pajoly on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 01:05:25 PM PDT

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                •  I'd like to see what these people call--- (2+ / 0-)
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                  I'd like to see what the poster above would call "Living"  where the kids cost "Less to feed"---have they never MET teenagers?

                  Have they not had to pay car insurance for beginner drivers?  (And before you rant---if you have a kid who is DRIVING AGE in the house even if they DO NOT DRIVE--you pay MORE for YOUR insurance)

                  Clothing kids--we just paid over $200 for basic back to school for a elementary school kid---and this is at the best cost-to-durability stores we know and we also buy thrift shop stuff.  This is far far LESS than most people we know even here in Cow Town spend.

                  Commuting from where you LIVE to where you WORK can cost the earth--when we moved here in 1989 gas was under a buck a gallon and we made a choice--move a bit farther to an area we could AFFORD a house or pay a bit extra in gas and time.  Now look at gas prices!

                  And NO we can't just up and move--the houses closer to work cost MUCH more still than here.  And our rate of pay has NOT kept up with gas ans food and everything ELSE.

                  Medical bills even WITH insurance are NOT cheap---several major medical problems and ongoing devices cost a LOT and no--our insurance does NOT cover ALL of it.  And NO we cannot get ANY Gov't "help"  for ANY of it. Been there tried that.

                  You used to be able to buy a decent used car for a decent price--now used cars are almost unknown under $10,000.  And that is a car with high miles and not always the best service record!  We do almost all our own work but the newer cars are designed to NOT allow you do do more than change the oil if that. And NO we can't afford a Prius.

                  Not to mention--if you DO have things like DTV (No cable here)  and Internet (see::No cable here!)  these cost the SAME if you have 1 person or a dozen.  Taxes are the SAME if you have 1 person or a dozen.  Electric rates more than DOUBLED here--while we do our best to save this also has a fixed base price that we have NO control over.  Want water here?  Your well needs electric to get that water to your house.  Heating the place costs pretty much the SAME if you have 1 or a dozen people.  

                  Theres lots to love about Cow Town but there is also reality.

                  •  It is clear that poster does not have kids (0+ / 0-)

                    because to imply that kids to don't add substantial costs relative to a childless couple is the epitome of economic ignorance. In fact, the latest study shows the average cost to raise a kid in the U.S.A. inn 2014 accumulates to over $240k. Now that's an average (the mean would be the better number), but still, it sure as hell is tens of thousands more than not having kids.

                    Of the almost 1,900 dead Palestinians, the IDF said it killed "900 terrorists" in Gaza. Add that to its long list of lies.

                    by pajoly on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 09:47:11 AM PDT

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      •  Inability to budget (3+ / 0-)
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        seems to be a common problem among Republican politicians. They claim to be experts on the subject, but the evidence suggests they don't have a clue.

        I understand that $100k isn't a lot of money if you're raising a family in a high-cost area, but it still annoys me to hear these guys whining.

      •  Au contraire re Philly and affordability (0+ / 0-)

        Phidelphia IS a cheap city.  My nephew lives there in a house which he rents for about $500/mo in a fairly safe area.  Here in the upstate NY boonies, the crappiest apartment you can rent from a slumlord is $750/month, a house would be about $1,200.

        And this is probably 20% of the costs in the NY, DC or Bay area metro area (the latter where my daughter knows, so I'm not making this up).

        Philly is a nice city with a pretty good bang for the buck for affordability.

    •  Here in SF/Oakland Bay Area (2+ / 0-)
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      lots of people make 100K and have no savings.

      This guy has a bunch of assets, though -- which makes the "paycheck to paycheck" line ring untrue.

      Barbara Lee speaks for me.

      by Oaklander on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:58:56 AM PDT

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    •  When he has to work a minimum wage job (8+ / 0-)

      (or two) and be drug tested for food stamps, then maybe I'll feel sorry for him.

      For Christina's America

      by DWKING on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:05:43 AM PDT

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    •  I look forward to my SS check (0+ / 0-)

      each month to pay bills with my $600.  My wife doesn't work.  But I own my farm, vehicles and well and have no payments, other than the usual utilities.  If I had a raise to 100,000 a year compared to the approximately 14,000 I now live on (with odd jobs) I wouldn't be whining about my income, I'd be sipping champagne; that is if I weren't a teetotaler.

  •  Aptly named, no? n/t (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, apissedant

    "Life is short, but long enough to get what's coming to you." --John Alton

    by Palafox on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:16:26 AM PDT

  •  Well, then, you must be very shitty with $, Bobby (15+ / 0-)

    Why don't you give that $100,000 to me? I can assure you I'll manage it far better than you do.

    None of these whiners get any sympathy from me. You just do a shitty job managing your finances. Or you're all greedheads.

  •  $247000 dived by 26 paychecks (12+ / 0-)

    is well over $10,000 a check.

    I'd LOVE to live check to check like THAT.

    Another useless piece of shit wealthy republican with his pointy head up his giant ass.

  •  Yeah, gotta "funnel money" (9+ / 0-)

    to auto insurance, homeowners' insurance, life insurance too, which "you might never have to use."
    A waste.

  •  It's not how much you make that matters (14+ / 0-)

    It's how much you keep.

    I know airline pilots making $250K who are living paycheck to paycheck because of their 3 alimony payments or poor investments.

    Old saying: never fly with a doctor and never take financial advice from a pilot.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:19:28 AM PDT

    •  Who CAN you get financial advice from? (2+ / 0-)

      Aren't they really there to get fees from you for shitty advice? Don't most of them have lousy records? The scene with Matthew McConoughy in Wolf of Wall ST...his job is to get your money, not to give a shit about how its invested....

      •  If you're careful you can find (1+ / 0-)
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        very good financial advisors -- my late father-in-law had an excellent one who is now handling the investments for my mother-in-law. She watches things carefully, has recently divested some low-performing funds and put the money into better performing ones. I see the quarterly reports (since Mr. Scribe and I have financial as well as medical powers of attorney, she keeps us abreast of the financials) and I'm impressed with how well she's done. Mom's well set for whatever time she has left.

        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:40:59 AM PDT

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      •  Stay away from the RICH DAD POOR DAD books. (1+ / 0-)
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        A) Robert Kiyosaki made his money...hocking these RDPD books, not by any investment cleverness of his own. Some serious debate about whether or not he's a scam artist.

        B) Also, the guy's a complete and utter tool.  The title comes from Kiyosaki describing his own father as a loser because he was a Poor Dad, and the soulless SOB who taught him to take advantage of other people to make money as his Rich Dad.

        C) He's anti-union, calls people who work for a living "losers," and at one point explains how you can get terrific bargains on property if you target the grieving widows at estate sales. I'm sure if you don't mind living without a soul you can follow his advice.

        There are some decent books out there about the ABC's of finances and investment. I like the Suze Ormon book The Nine Steps To Financial Freedom - I don't like her in person, but there's good info in her books, and it's all pretty much the same advice in all the books.

        The Millionaire Next Door by Thomas Stanley also has some good pointers about living below one's means, by examining the habits of some people who are worth 7 figures but drive used cars. Take Millionaire with a grain of salt, though - Stanley doesn't believe there's a gender pay gap even though all his millionaires are white men whose wives do a ton of unpaid work that help their businesses.

        “[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle] created Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson - which proves he was way ahead of his time on gay marriage.” - Bill Maher

        by gardnerhill on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 04:33:51 PM PDT

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    •  how much you spend makes a huge difference (12+ / 0-)

      I know people who eat out for lunch almost every day, go to Starbucks for a couple cups of coffee every work day, trade their car in every 3 years... then they complain that they live paycheck to paycheck!

      I never really bought in to the keeping up with the Jones' stuff.  Only had 1 new car, buy most of my furniture used, do most of my own maintenance on cars and house...  Now I live very comfortably at an income just above the poverty line.  

      What is it they say about Americans?  We buy things we don't need, with money we don't have, to impress people we don't like.

  •  The saying is: It's not how much you make (11+ / 0-)

    but how much you keep that matters.  So, what these guys are really saying is that they cannot handle their money.  Which makes you wonder why on earth would we give them access to the purse-strings of the country.  If anything we should give Americans making less than $174K/year a chance to represent their district in the House and those financial decision which apparently elude these guys.

    •  You have no clue as to housing prices (1+ / 0-)
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      in the DC/NVa area.

      It is insane.

      •  Actually I do as I have lived within the DC (10+ / 0-)

        Metro area for several years.  My point remains.  It's not what you make but what you do with it.  These are the guys who claim to be islands, having nothing handed to them and yet cannot seem to make a go at a salary 95% of Americans will never realize in their lifetimes.  Instead of trying to tell people on assistance what to do with their funds perhaps they should look at themselves and figure it out.

      •  you're right (2+ / 0-)
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        but I suspect these people want to live in upmarket areas.

        they wouldn't consider a townhome in Largo, for example, or a home in Lake Arbor, where prices are pricey but not psychotic.

        Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. Russia Today=FoxNews, Seralini=Wakefield. yadda yadda.

        by terrypinder on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:48:55 AM PDT

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        •  But I want a yacht! (3+ / 0-)

          The fact someone is struggling to survive on a "middle-class" paycheck in an upper class neighborhood doesn't mean you can't get by on a "middle-class" paycheck; It means these are entitled pricks that look down on the rest of us living normal lives.

          It's especially "funny" that so many of them are also opposed to things like increasing the minimum wage.  Clearly, they think 90% of the population is only their to serve them, and doesn't deserve what they consider a "livable" life.

          •  my partner has a relative who whines (4+ / 0-)

            that he lives paycheck to paycheck and has no money but has 3 houses, a pontoon boat, a camper (with requisite campsite), and pays most of his only kid (who is in his late 30s and has a kid and a fiancee and WORKS!) bills.

            but mention someone on welfare and it's all "SOMEONE'S GETTING SOMETHING OVER ON ME AS A TAXPAYER"

            I'm so sick of hearing it. actually had the audacity to say "the last spendable pay increase i had was in 1978."

            we were ON THE PONTOON BOAT AT THE TIME.

            Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. Russia Today=FoxNews, Seralini=Wakefield. yadda yadda.

            by terrypinder on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:24:20 AM PDT

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  •  In 1980 investment guru Andrew Tobias (0+ / 0-)

    of The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need wrote Getting By on $100,000 a Year (and other Sad Tales). That was a lot more money back then.

    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:25:57 AM PDT

  •  So is he arguing for single payer or the risk g... (2+ / 0-)
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    DWKING, mmacdDE

    So is he arguing for single payer or the risk getting sick and die model? Looking at reality, those are the 3 options. At least under our current private option, more people can afford unaffordable insurance than could before Obamacare. So if this is truly his concern, why is he not getting pushed back on on his obvioys stupidity?

  •  F them (3+ / 0-)
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    NoBlueSkies, Observerinvancouver, hbk

    When we were trying to buy a house, I was like, "Instead of buying that new BMW, I could put a down payment on my house that would make the life of our family ten times easier."

    Just the car.

    OTOH, someone earning 100k has almost nothing to gain from supporting a Republican, let alone being one.  

    Half of the things they want to cut will end up pushing the burden onto people like this Republican.

    Streichholzschächtelchen

    by otto on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:29:26 AM PDT

    •  Reminds me of a story I heard decades ago (1+ / 0-)
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      about two friends who each had come into $10,000.  One spent his on a truck.  The other used his as a down payment on a house.  The rest is easy to figure out.  

      We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

      by Observerinvancouver on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:35:27 AM PDT

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  •  I might be more sympathetic if he worked full (3+ / 0-)
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    time.

    I don't know the exact number of days congress works but I do know it isn't even close to 40 hours a week, 50 weeks per year.

    IF it was I might understand that keeping up 2 residences and traveling back is expensive.

    But since it's not I just say fuck off.

    Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature. I scroll with my middle finger.

    by ZenTrainer on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:31:55 AM PDT

  •  How does a guy... (0+ / 0-)

    ...who makes $275k/year plus Congressional perks only have half a million dollars in the bank? Is saving just not a priority or something?

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:32:38 AM PDT

  •  funneling money into (2+ / 0-)
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    asterkitty, PsychoSavannah

    having health care is not something you may never use.  what a whiny ass titty baby!  if he can't live on his relatively large income, i certainly would not trust him to use my tax dollars wisely.  

    as i said, what a W.A.T.B. this douche is!

    "I am an old woman, named after my mother. my old man is another child who's grown old." John Prine (not an old woman)

    by art ah zen on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:32:43 AM PDT

  •  So he wants to go to congress for the money? (1+ / 0-)
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    asterkitty

    Sure sounds like he wants to go to congress for the extra $70K he would make.

    I'll do it for half the money.

  •  I could live (4+ / 0-)
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    NoBlueSkies, asterkitty, hbk, schnecke21

    4-5 years with that kind of income. He needs to STFU!

  •  He might be too dumb to manage his own money. (0+ / 0-)

    Clearly, he's a person who should be put in charge and in a position to tell people that "maybe will never need health insurance" is an excellent reason to keep it unavailable and unaffordable.

    Someone actually admitted on DK, "Yes. If it pisses you and the other Greenwald-Tweet-pearl-clutchers off, it's smart." Wow. Just....wow.

    by Inland on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:36:18 AM PDT

  •  Well, $100K is in fact, not a large income (6+ / 0-)

    Complaining about the ACA when it most likely could be saving him some money is evidence enough to convict the ex-congressman of being a jerk. Saying that income of 100K is paycheck-to-paycheck might not.

    In NoVa 100K puts you solidly in the middle of the middle class. It gets you a 1300 sq ft house sans garage and a 1/3 of a million dollar mortgage. I took a 20% cut after 8 weeks of unemployment back in ot-9 and I've clawed my way back to where I was, only now with a maxed out credit-card that I can't knock down.

    When my kids are begging for the latest xbox or a trip to disney or whatever and I tell them they aren't getting it, I make sure to tell them that no, we are not poor, and in fact very fortunate. But neither are we rich. We live paycheck-to-paycheck on 100K a year.

    A hundred grand ain't as much as it used to be.

    To reduce crime, make fewer things against the law.

    by Bruce The Moose on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:36:53 AM PDT

    •  Teachers, Police and firefighters can earn (2+ / 0-)

      $100K in the DC suburbs.  That right there should be an indicator of the high cost of living.  Many people in those public sector jobs have to live in other jurisdictions because they can't afford to live in the counties they work in.  I know this from experience!

      “It is the job of the artist to think outside the boundaries of permissible thought and dare say things that no one else will say."—Howard Zinn

      by musiclady on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:44:50 AM PDT

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    •  About a year ago, the WaPo did a study (3+ / 0-)
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      asterkitty, MPociask, Bruce The Moose

      that concluded it takes a family income of at least $108K to live comfortably in the DC area.  They described "comfortable" for a family of 4 as being a modest house or apartment (3 bedroom), one vehicle, a retirement account and the ability to take a modest vacation.  

      “It is the job of the artist to think outside the boundaries of permissible thought and dare say things that no one else will say."—Howard Zinn

      by musiclady on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:47:16 AM PDT

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  •  Nice (9+ / 0-)

    Dkos demographic is so perfect.  This diary is a lot of people saying, "Well, it's really not thaaat much."

    Yes, it's not necessarily the type of salary that prevents one from living month to month, especially if they are not good at managing money.

    What I'd like to hear from someone like this is, "Hey, I've been blessed to make 175k  a year with great benefits.  I get to participate in writing the laws of this country.  I would have done it all for free while sleeping in my office."

    Streichholzschächtelchen

    by otto on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:41:13 AM PDT

    •  Yes! (2+ / 0-)
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      terrypinder, otto

      When well-to-do folks acknowledge how fortunate they are, then we can get back on the right track.

      •  Seriously (1+ / 0-)
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        asterkitty

        I get paid a little to teach chess.  However, I also teach chess for free.  

        Streichholzschächtelchen

        by otto on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:10:36 AM PDT

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      •  heh we have this fight in my house from (2+ / 0-)
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        asterkitty, Cali Scribe

        time to time.

        I consider us incredibly fortunate. he complains about our "paycheck to paycheck" habits.

        (the habit, incidentially, is his, not mine. he seems to think we should have many more luxuries with our combined income and I'm really not all about that stuff. my new fav activity on sundays is clipping coupons while i play on the internet. )

        Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. Russia Today=FoxNews, Seralini=Wakefield. yadda yadda.

        by terrypinder on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:13:03 AM PDT

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    •  We were blessed to make that, and I've always (0+ / 0-)

      thought that. As I mentioned somewhere up thread, we've struggled before, just out of school, and with a baby. Maybe that is the difference.

      Recently, we made that much for about 18 months. I made 90k, my wife around 80.

      Saved 2 years of college payments in about 10 months.
      Before that though, I was unemployed for 6 months. And now after that, my wife's work situation became unbearable and was becoming a health problem for her.

      So, she quit, and started her own business. Of course, this has not come close to replacing her income yet, and so we've had to cut back for now, but it is actually much better, because we are less stressed (even with a business!) and I can focus on what is really giving us the most bang for our buck for the future.

      There is no "path" to choose. The path is what is behind you that led you to today. What lies in front of you is not a fork in the road - not a choice of paths to take, but rather an empty field for you to blaze your own direction.

      by cbabob on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:30:40 AM PDT

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  •  He's an idiot (2+ / 0-)
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    But he has 10 kids, many of whom are still dependent.

    •  that's fair. kids are damn expensive. (0+ / 0-)

      Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. Russia Today=FoxNews, Seralini=Wakefield. yadda yadda.

      by terrypinder on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:58:18 AM PDT

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      •  Discretionary spending. (2+ / 0-)
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        Observerinvancouver, NoBlueSkies

        Nobody needs to have any kids, forget about so many.

        Very poor financial planning. I don't have a lot of sympathy.

        •  fair enough (0+ / 0-)

          Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. Russia Today=FoxNews, Seralini=Wakefield. yadda yadda.

          by terrypinder on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:17:23 AM PDT

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        •  Well ain't THAT speshul--- (0+ / 0-)

          What exactly would you have him DO with those kids?

          Oh wait--they are HERE so no one ELSE gives a rats ass about them except maybe their parents.

          I won't say that 10 kids does not sound like a lot but really----

          I happily can rant about this guy and the way he is WHINING about his life and finances

          But I cannot stand when people start making comments about the NUMBER of kids a person might have and then claim WELL THEY COULD JUST--NOT HAVE KIDS

          After the fact

          Maybe he can get a spot on TV--I think the Duggars wandered off.  "How I Can't Raise 10 Kids on $175,000 a Year"

          Might be popular

          Maybe they could have a Chat Room for Hints n Tips on how to raise them chilluns on that meager sum.

    •  So he fathered a bunch of kids he can't afford? (6+ / 0-)

      Gotta tell ya, that comment would make a lot more sense if the word "but" was eliminated.

    •  The hypocrisy I see in learning this... (2+ / 0-)
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      piece of information, is that he and his wife must not believe in birth control, (or self-control.)  Or both.  This means it was a choice on his and his wife's part to have that many children.  If I had to guess, I would also guess he is a religious fundamentalist.

      I find it typical of many, if not most Republicans/conservatives, to focus on their good intentions, and ignore or deny the consequences of their decisions.  

      It's almost as if Mr. Schilling thinks that BECAUSE he had such good intentions for his life, there shouldn't be ANY negative consequences.  This means that he is in denial of the connection between his decisions and the consequences.

      With most fundamentalist religious people, there is an arrogance to their belief system, so that they think everyone should act just like he does, which, in many cases, causes them to breed indiscriminately, then value kids in the abstract, but ignore them in reality.  

      If I had to guess, I would also guess that he compares his present financial circumstances to other, more wealthy people he knows, and is seeing himself as disadvantaged because he isn't as rich or as powerful as they are.

      I have a Bachelor's degree with around 250 college credits, and I haven't found a decent job in my area of expertise, in the town or region I live in.  It's all minimum wage, service-oriented jobs. The competition for jobs in this area is insane.  I've survived on $10,000 or less most of my life.  I rarely "live" on that kind of money.

      To hear Mr. Schilling talk, I can tell he doesn't get it.  And, as is many times the case, the most ignorant of people are usually the most arrogant  when it comes to telling other people how to live their lives.

    •  No one MADE you have all those kids, Steve. (1+ / 0-)
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      snwflk

      It's called taking responsibility for your own actions - it's a thing mature adults do.

      You don't get to breed a baseball team then whine because Kids Are Expeeeennnnnnsivvvvve.

      My parents had 9 kids. They saved like demented squirrels and invested; they knew how to say "No" when we whined for expensive toys. We went camping instead of going to Europe. Mom still washes her hair in the kitchen sink with dish soap, even though they're now card-carrying millionaires.

      “[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle] created Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson - which proves he was way ahead of his time on gay marriage.” - Bill Maher

      by gardnerhill on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 04:54:37 PM PDT

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  •  I know some of them like to complain (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    asterkitty

    about DC's high cost of living but I don't know, my parents live near DC and do rather well for themselves and they do not make six figures at all.

    So, these congresscritters can shut the fuck up and clip coupons if it's that bad.

    Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. Russia Today=FoxNews, Seralini=Wakefield. yadda yadda.

    by terrypinder on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:46:25 AM PDT

  •  No clue (2+ / 0-)
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    Observerinvancouver, MsShona

    Obviously he has no f*ckin clue at all what it really means to be poor-- what an as*hole.

    •  He never said he was poor (0+ / 0-)

      He said he lives pay check to pay check. If In fact he has 10 kids well
      yeah he can be doing that. Lite of butthurt from people not being reasonable. If this guy was a Democrat there wouldn't be neatly the outcry here.

      I'm somewhat surprised that Nir even wrote this.

      •  no, i'd give him the same amount of shit (2+ / 0-)
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        mmacdDE, Cali Scribe

        if he were a democrat. i'll give him the 10 kids--kids are expensive--but if he had none, or one, or his kids were long grown, it'd come off as whining. That he's using it as an argument against the ACA makes it really tacky---if he were dirt poor his 10 kids would benefit from the ACA.

        Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. Russia Today=FoxNews, Seralini=Wakefield. yadda yadda.

        by terrypinder on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:15:19 AM PDT

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        •  Guaranteed - if he has 10 kids (0+ / 0-)

          he's using that insurance

          •  Annnnd--- (1+ / 0-)
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            weneedahero

            It is possible that if he has 10 DEPENDENT KIDS he might qualify for HELP from the ACA for insurance for those kids--and his wife and himself.

            Something to think about huh

            But I bet he's not worried if one of those kids gets knocked out on the football field or breaks an arm playing soft ball---'

            Because he HAS insurance. And the means to PAY the deductibles and co=pays and co-insurances and the BALANCE.

      •  He chose to father children he can't afford. (2+ / 0-)
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        weneedahero, PsychoSavannah

        It's not like ya just wake up and there's a child there. I can see one kid who wasn't worked into the financial plan, but ten?

        •  as nothing to do with being a Dem or Rethug (0+ / 0-)

          He said he lives check to check. You people are whining more than he is.

          •  But if it was someone working (2+ / 0-)
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            NoMoreLies, NoBlueSkies

            minimum wage making that sort of statement, he'd be on the Sunday shows talking about the "lazy poor begging for handouts." And if it was a single mother with just 3 or 4 kids making that statement, he'd probably be telling her "you should have thought about that before opening your legs, you slut" while calling for slashing support to Planned Parenthood which might be her only resource for affordable contraception.

            It's called being tone-deaf; this guy (and the GOP in general) haz it.  

            There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

            by Cali Scribe on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:59:12 AM PDT

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  •  Our government lives that way... (0+ / 0-)

    ...and it makes a couple of trillion dollars a year.  So I'm not at all surprised.

    It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

    by Rich in PA on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:51:24 AM PDT

  •  Poor lost soul. He is only in the top 2% (1+ / 0-)
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    missed congeniality

    and Jayzeus must be punishing him for some reason only HE knows. He is guilty, guilty, guilty of some unseen sin, and Jayzeus keeps him po for a REASON. If he were truly sinless, he would be makin the bling, and thats no lie.

    I suggest he get himself right with Jayzeus in his Heart before he goes complaining to the rest of us about his poverty.

    Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

    by OregonOak on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:55:18 AM PDT

  •  Insurance 'you might never have to use'. (7+ / 0-)

    Yeah. The "freedom" to go without health insurance, living in mortal terror that you're one episode of appendicitis or one kidney stone away from bankruptcy and the loss of your home.

    As the great Anatole France put it, "The law in its infinite majesty forbids the rich as well as the poor from sleeping under bridges or stealing bread". It's all well and good to pontificate about "choosing" to go without health insurance when you have a cool half million in the bank. But when you're actually livin' the dream on a minimum wage salary at two different jobs, health insurance can mean the difference between inconvenience and financial ruin.

    What.an.asshole.

    •  If you have a medical emergency but no (0+ / 0-)

      insurance, that cool half million will melt pretty quickly, I think.

      We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

      by Observerinvancouver on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:42:06 AM PDT

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    •  Heck, just the ability to get regular (1+ / 0-)
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      checkups and physicals can avert real tragedy. Mr. Scribe's testicular cancer was caught during his annual physical (we paid extra to have our own doctor do it rather than the clinic his employer used). If he thinks 100K a year is living from paycheck to paycheck, imagine his wife having to raise 10 kids after he keels over from an unexpected heart attack the way my dad did.

      There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

      by Cali Scribe on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 12:02:55 PM PDT

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      •  It cost--- (0+ / 0-)

        I had two kidney stones and went into kidney sepsis

        It cost $19000 for the Air Ambulance  of which my insurance FINALLY and after pre-approval paid $18000

        The extended hospital stay with several days in the ICU and surgery cost around $52,000 which the insurance bargained down to $22,000

        Two follow up surgeries cost something like $6,000

        A prosthetic leg costs between $16,000 and  up to a C-Leg for $65,000

        An insulin pump can cost as much as a used car--for a person with NO insurance it can run $7,000  and thats NOT counting the very spendy supplies and medication--for 9 vials of insulin my insurance was quoted at $1,400 and I paid $60 for them.  

        These are just costs I am intimately familiar with.  

        This guy lives in some rich fantasy land.  Wonder what non-Rx substances HE is taking?????

  •  Hah ha! What a rediculous man. (4+ / 0-)

    Talk about being completely divorced from everything real. He's just talking to a camera/mic. Literally. He sees nothing beyond the device he sees as a necessary tool to achieve his purpose.

    Hey asshole! Having one job earning 25-30k is actually considered good fortune now in this country. You can barely even pull that off with a BA and two jobs.

    What a schmuck.

    “...I'm glad I'm not afraid to be lazy!” ― Augustus Mc Crea, "Lonesome Dove"

    by nutherhumanbeing on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 09:59:52 AM PDT

  •  Would like to know what the HELL this nitwit (0+ / 0-)

    Schilling The Shill is spending his multiple income streams on if he's living hand to mouth?! Is he like Oprah, a new car in several of his neighbors' driveways every single month? His explanation is probably classic evasion, but who really wants to stick around to hear it? Yucky.

  •  This is always a losing argument, but... (0+ / 0-)

    While no one (including me) wants to hear Members of Congress cry poverty, their salary is actually woefully inadequate, especially when you consider that they work seven days a week and have to maintain two residences (a ton of Members just live in their office during the week, while others live frat house-style with roommates).

    I would argue that the biggest problem from this issue is that it begs for only the uber-wealthy to serve in Congress, especially from expensive Congressional districts. You try to maintain a home in the District of Columbia (extremely expensive) and either Manhattan or San Francisco (outrageously expensive). The only people who can afford to do that are the rich who simply augment their salaries with their personal wealthy. I shed not one tear for Congressmen/women who complain about their pay (seriously, retire and go get rich in the private sector if that's your motivating factor), but I do fear for the death of citizen legislators.

    Unapologetic Obama supporter.

    by Red Sox on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:06:59 AM PDT

    •  I'd spring to pay for some dorms. (2+ / 0-)
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      mmacdDE, NoBlueSkies

      It would help to loosen up the housing supply in DC and bring the cost down.  But better than that, it puts these a-holes 4 to a room with a shared bathroom.  I'd even mix the political parties! They might have to actually talk to each other and learn to work with each other.  It will also remind them how 98% of the country actually lives.  We could also spring for 4 flights home each year, coach seating, with advance purchase to keep the fares down.  We'll make sure to put this housing about 20 miles outside of DC and they can take the bus to Capitol Hill.

      We can cut their salary in half that way and STILL save money.

      Let's see who's so gung-ho to serve their country with those living arrangements.....  :-)

      "Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.: Maya Angelou

      by PsychoSavannah on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:04:16 AM PDT

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      •  Actually, I've thought that the dorm idea (3+ / 0-)
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        was a good one for a while. The House shut down its page program in 2011. While the Senate still has pages, the House page dorms remain unoccupied. Use it for Members...

        Unapologetic Obama supporter.

        by Red Sox on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 11:16:28 AM PDT

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      •  barracks or tents... (2+ / 0-)
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        There is no reason why these people -- who volunteered to serve the country -- should expect better accommodations than the soldiers and military personnel who volunteered to serve (and who get a lot less pay and face many more risks).  

        Perhaps if our "representatives" lived like the military personnel and were fed the same foods as those offered in boot camp, they would at least get a glimmer of a clue and might be less itchy to begin more wars.  

        Also, it is no secret (a) what Congressional pay is or (b) what the cost of apartments or homes is in the greater Washington, D.C. metropolitan area.  The Congressional crybabies have only themselves to blame if they did not bother to determine a workable budget before deciding to run for office.  

        If certain Congressional members cannot anticipate the absolutely predictable costs and develop workable budgets accordingly, they have exactly no business lecturing actual poor people about how to make-do without food stamps, unemployment compensation, medical protection and so on.

        Most of us who are poor did not have the luxury of a 12-month lead-time in which we could investigate options and plan ahead; we were either born into poverty or we were pushed into it when our employers (if any) pulled the rug out from underneath us, for instance, paying us for less hours than we worked, or shipping our jobs overseas with no warning.  

  •  Mo' money, mo' problems (1+ / 0-)
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    100K is paycheck to paycheck after mortgage, extra principal payment on said mortgage, retirement/investment accounts for him and his spouse, and private school tuition.  After that, there really isn't that much extra to pay the bills.

  •  If allowed to do so (3+ / 0-)
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    one's lifestyle will behave like a gas, expanding until it fills the entire space (one's income) to which it is confined. Such people live paycheck to paycheck, no matter how much money they make. When income declines, even to still generous levels, that gets worse.

    As usual we see a Republican looking at the issue through the wrong end of the telescope. He can't see that income security, in the society we have become, is as essential to life as access to air to breath, and, thus, has become a basic human right. But in our system, it is only the very wealthy who have income security. Except for the extremely conscientious, frugal or fortunate, everyone else lives paycheck to paycheck.

    A living wage should be viewed as a fundamental obligation of anyone undertaking to employ someone else. It should be regarded as a fundamental right of anyone taking employment. Anything less is partial slavery. In the society that we have become, anything less is oppression.

    "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." John Kenneth Galbraith

    by LeftOfYou on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:12:33 AM PDT

  •  Some transparency would be useful (0+ / 0-)

    What insurance coverage does his family have when he is not serving in Congress? Employer-provided or privately purchased? What coverage does he have, for how many family members, and what are his premiums?

    Perhaps he's paying a lot for health insurance because he is an unskillful consumer who hasn't bought the most sensible and affordable coverage for his family.

  •  Dumb**s doesn't get that strange, (0+ / 0-)

    bewildering concept - insurance.  How does he feel about his auto and home insurance, I wonder.

    We must, indeed, all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. B. Franklin

    by Observerinvancouver on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 10:15:03 AM PDT

  •  I like to pretend Cheri Bustos is my rep (0+ / 0-)

    because my actual rep is (shudder) Aaron Schock.

  •  Almost as sad as poor Hillary (0+ / 0-)

    and Bill (dead broke when they left the White House, you know), let alone poor Joe Biden. Poor, poor people.
    https://www.youtube.com/...

  •  But isn't someone with a fridge "not poor"? (2+ / 0-)
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    NoMoreLies, NoBlueSkies

    During the 2008 campaign, Republicans got all upset over Obama's desire to increase tax for those making over $250,000/year, explaining that making $250k didn't make one rich.

    Since then, we've had a number of Republicans in Congress explaining their could hardly live off their salary...

    Yet, when it's time to talk about welfare and food stamps, the same Republicans talk about a life of luxury...that if you have a fridge or a microwave oven, you are NOT poor!!!

    In other words, Republicans talking from both sides of the mouth...as usual...

  •  One caveat (0+ / 0-)

    It's hard to have sympathy for the guy, BUT if you're a member of Congress you need to have two residences: one in/near DC and one in your district.  And if you actually want to be in your district as well as in DC for votes, etc., you need to fly a lot, unless you live on the East Coast.  

    Not defending him - BUT defending the idea that Congress might not be overpaid the way many on both the right and the left think.

  •  Six figure income? (1+ / 0-)
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    Anyone who has a six-figure income and is living paycheck to paycheck is too effing stupid to hold office. If they can't be trusted with their own household's income, there's no place for them running the government.

  •  How is he supposed to pay for a summer home (1+ / 0-)
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    with a lousy $100k? It's hard.

    Or so I imagine: I've never owned one home.

    Being a member of the privileged class means standing on someone else's shoulders, pretending to be a giant.

    by cjenk415 on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 12:22:40 PM PDT

  •  Schilling (2+ / 0-)
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    Doesn't he realize that the very people whose votes he needs can read this?  How stupid is this man?

  •  All broken up about his horribly rough life. He... (0+ / 0-)

    All broken up about his horribly rough life. He may be living payday to payday, but how much is due to trying to live a certain level of living?

    Cry us a river. Try cutting back on some items, pal. :D

  •  and these hypocrites (0+ / 0-)

    don't believe in a minimum wage, at least for everyone else .

  •  They voted for him. Let them cry him a river to... (0+ / 0-)

    They voted for him. Let them cry him a river to put a nice vacation home on.

    •  Annnndddd--- (0+ / 0-)

      He has to pay tuition for all them kiddies!

      TEN at last count

      Wonder if he believes in Student Financial Aid?

      OR Student Health Insurance?

      OR are his kids working at Micky D's these days?

      Can YOU say HYPOCRITE? (In my best Mr. Rogers voice)

      I THOUGHT you could!

  •  Cherie Bustos is first term incumbent who has h... (1+ / 0-)
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    Cherie Bustos is first term incumbent who has her constituents in mind as she tries to do her job in Congress. Bobby Schilling is a proponent of the usual RWNJ ideology. He was voted out of office for many reasons.

  •  If you make minimum wage, then living pay (1+ / 0-)
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    check is a function of your poverty wages.  If you make $100,000 per year, living pay check to pay check is a budgeting issue.

  •  And they went waa,waa,waa (0+ / 0-)

    What is a vacation?  Our income is spent on the necessities and medical trips.  This,guy is a piece of crap.  The usual right wing fake complainer.  Just like the three morons on Faux who are complaining about "Obamas swanky vacation". How many faux hosts didn't take "swanky" vacations.  They just lie and divert attention away from themselves.  Twitty Elizabeth Hassellfrump is off,bet she's on a "swanky" vacation.  At least the Three Stooges were funny,these yokels are the lowest hosts in the history of TV.  It's the land of the brain dead.  Watching faux is like watching a dust mite eat dead skin cells.

  •  I challenge him to live on 1600$ a month social... (0+ / 0-)

    I challenge him to live on 1600$ a month social security! Seriously he is a literal dumb ass! The only people dumber are the dumb asses that voted for him.

  •  Spending more than you make's a game all can play. (0+ / 0-)

    At one end you can overspend by foolishly buying the 12-cent Ramen noodles instead of the 10-cent package.

    At the other end you can buy one more oil company than you can control, and your life turns into a Sophocles tragedy.

    “[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle] created Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson - which proves he was way ahead of his time on gay marriage.” - Bill Maher

    by gardnerhill on Fri Aug 08, 2014 at 07:52:16 PM PDT

  •  Someone stand back and let me at him. I'd like to (0+ / 0-)

    show him my opinion of his idea of living paycheck to paycheck. With his income alone I'd consider myself to be living high on the hog and be debt free.

  •  wait... (1+ / 0-)
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    Wasn't this the guy I saw complaining that there wasn't any Grey Poupon mustard for his ham sandwich at the soup kitchen?  

  •  He needs to think (0+ / 0-)

    "Instead, you've got to funnel your money over to Obamacare, which is something you might never have to use."  People pay for fire services in most areas, and I know they might never have to use that.  I have never heard of anyone who would not, could not, use insurance to go to the doctor for even a yearly physical.  What about the sports physical your child has to have for school?  People aren't going to have the insurance company help pay for that?

  •  Well Conservative Dave Ramsey (1+ / 0-)
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    would tell you sir to get a part-time job and shop whining...if you feel $100,000 is too little, then get out your resume and look for a better job - go back to school - tell the wife to work, stop sending the kids to private school...after all - this is what the Right tells the rest of us to do when we complain that $7.25 an hour - which I believe is $40.82 less than you make per hour - is enough money to live on and they don't need more....

    Frankly, I wish every person who serves in congress should make what people in their district make - at the lowest rung, that they don't get healthcare unless they work 2080 hours per year as well as no vacation, no sick time, etc - no benefits period unless they work like the rest of us...then maybe they will have an understanding what those of us out here are doing...

    But frankly, if anyone votes for you, they deserve what they get

  •  So funny (0+ / 0-)

    How a 1%er can cry poverty.  If you are earning 6 figures, shut up and be happy.  I have been working since I was 13 years old, and now at 47 I have yet to earn 100000 in a year, in fact in all those years combined I haven't even earned $1M combined.  Earning 6 figures in my book makes you RICH no matter where you live.  This guy needs tape over his mouth and a box for tissues.  

  •  Yes, (0+ / 0-)

    it is a real sacrifice to have to give up that second vacation in order to pay for health care coverage.  Talk about suffering!  Maybe his kid should take up stick ball.  

  •  I know everyone has to worry about money (1+ / 0-)
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    including Bill Gates. (Koch brothers don't count in many meanings of the word.)  

    Everyone I talk to has money problems.  Some have newer homes, with 2 people working at decent enough jobs and have something called 401Ks, though, this being Wisconsin, health care is a bit problematical.  They have decent cars and time and money for a vacation and don't have to rely on the food card and food pantry for groceries.

    Others are older, single women, trying to cope with increased health care costs because of policy changes, property tax which of course, never goes down, despite the loss of value of the houses.  

     Me, I guess I am lucky, with reservations.  I get above average SSDI and have a decent enough Advantage plan. I have to rent and rentals in my price range are impossible to find, let alone live in sometimes.  Landlords must all be Republicans.

    I saw that Congressmen make about $1300/day, year round.  I have to make do with a bit more than that for a month.  I'd gladly trade places with them for a month or three or at least through their hiatus this summer.

    NO one in the six figure bracket can be living hand to mouth. Foot in mouth is more likely.  If they are, they need to cut back on their Lexus and Jaguars and their 5 homes.

    Sorry for the rant.  This is a five week month for me and I have $50 for the next 3 weeks.

  •  So you take and rub your thumb and forefinger t... (0+ / 0-)

    So you take and rub your thumb and forefinger together and tell this yutz "This is the world's smallest violin playing,My Heart Bleeds For You..."

    What a maroon!

  •  Lacking an education? (0+ / 0-)

    "Instead, you've got to funnel your money over to Obamacare, which is something you might never have to use."  Oh goodness, what part of "insurance" does this man not understand?  One buys insurance on, well whatever, not with intent of using it, but with the hope you may never have to use it.  But if you do have a need, it will be there.  That's why they call it insurance!  When it comes to health insurance, you damn well better believe you will use it.  IDIOT!

    •  It was 'splained to me----- (0+ / 0-)

      It was 'splained to ME way back in HS AP Economics class that Insurance is a BET.

      You bet the house that YOU will not need it;  the house bets that you WILL.

      It's Vegas baby!

      This applies to ANY kind of insurance up to and including life insurance.  You place a bet that says I WILL NEVER DIE   and the Ins Co laughs and takes your payment and adds it to ALLLLL the other ones in their investment portfolio.  

      And then when you DO die your estate reaps the "profit"  less the expenses and salary of the Ins Co.

      OF course it is a bit more complicated payment and pay out for medical but at bottom--the idea is STILL the same.  Sooner or later--you WILL need it.

      Does this guy whine about paying his CAR insurance?  His HOME insurance? Now those are PRIVILEGES as so many people cannot AFFORD a house or a car.  

      But for the REST of us---AFFORDING insurance is the problem.   Not whether or not we BELIEVE in insurance.  Which is why this is so infuriating to hear THESE GUYS whine about it.

      Let THEM go sit in Social Services and BEG for help after a major health crisis and be humiliated and abused and watch as they give out bags of groceries to PRISONERS leaving the JAIL and then turn YOU down.  

      Yeah us of the so called "Middle class" have it sooooo good n easy.  And We make nowheres NEAR what this guy is crying about having to "Live" on.

  •  &(#^^*@+ (0+ / 0-)

    I am very concerned about Bobby's extreme suffering. I may be able to help him. I have a great deal of experience with pinching pennies. I am 58 and I've been disabled for about 5 years. I know, I know - disabled = cheating the system. But I worked in severe pain for years, and was actually walking in to work when I collapsed. Every doctor, every physical therapist, said that I am severely disabled, but Social Security approved me anyway. After working for 30 years in the helping professions, I get less than $1200 a month to support two adults. I know all about doing without. I could teach poor Bobby about mending your clothes because the stuff in the thrift shop is too expensive (except on half off day, Bobby, so there is hope). 300 ways to eat beans. How to get by without going to the doctor, even when you have multiple chronic illnesses. Adjusting to the reality of a shorter life span because you can't afford your medicine. Bobby, I would be happy to help you out, I just don't think you want to hear what I have to say.

    •  Annnndddd--- (0+ / 0-)

      If you were NOT (Not copasetic1 personally!!!)  NOT working you can NOT get disability.

      NOT.

      I have tried.  Because my HUSBAND works I am NOT "eligible"  for ANY sort of disability --minus a leg and half a foot  with some other "issues"  ---nope!

      IF you don't have enough "time"  in the "System"---you are fucked.  And HOW all these people who ARE "Milking the system" DO it--I just don't know.

      And they fail to take into account the EXPENSES of illness and the things you need to have to get by--medication;  prosthetics; insulin pumps; wheeled equipment--NONE of this is considered when you apply because::: You didn't have that "Magic Number"  of working time.

      I worked--I worked from when I was 15 til I had my kids.  Because where we live has NO sort of child care that doesn't cost MORE than your job PAYS--I stayed home.  We made do.  I did what all of these Republican Pols seem to WANT women to DO--stay home and raise the kids.  No sooner than my youngest was applying to college I was out looking for a paying job.  Since he went to school at 16 and getting to school was impossible without MY driving---I could not do this beforehand.

      And no sooner had I got him into school--I got sick.  

      Only to be slapped in the face by SSDI and told--fuck you and your amputation!  No one fucking CARES ---STFU.  

      I know lots of people far less disabled than I--and THEY all have SSDI!  How do they DO that?  And no--=not all of them were working either! Some of them wander off on cruises and have newer cars than we do and live in much nicer places than we do and I see what they buy at the grocery---living in SmallVille will DO that!!!---and yet-----

      Of course I do NOT mean that people who obviously HAVE a need should not get disability.  I very much support this!  But---IT's not a very well thought out program and very wasteful.  

  •  And this proves....what? (0+ / 0-)

    That it's possible even for a person who makes 100K a year to live beyond his means?

    Oh, poor, poor pitiful him! The cash Nazi must have just said, "No million for you!"

  •  Now that the freebies are gone, (0+ / 0-)

    he has to pay for his lifestyle.

  •  I have a six figure income too... (0+ / 0-)

    ...$1083.00 a month. And my soon to be ex-Governor Tom Corbett (R-PA) is trying to separate me from as much of it as fast as he can.

    "I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast, for I intend to go in harm's way." John Paul Jones

    by ImpeachKingBushII on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 01:56:46 PM PDT

  •  Pay check to pay check... (0+ / 0-)

    Implies that he has absolutely no money management skills, and is additionally a high risk for bribery....

  •  I wish that... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... every single bullshit comment from anyone running for ANY kind of office would be fact checked and IMMEDIATELY called out, and a response demanded, publicly.

    I'm an obscenely honest person and I can't tolerate bullshit... especially when it's propaganda,  aimed at people who don't know the difference.

    You are SO taking advantage of people when you lie publicly like this.  Most people, even today, still believe what politicians or just other people say.  A much smaller minority of people can smell this bullshit.

    I wish there was a law that stated that no politician running for any type of office could lie in order to sway votes their way, help them win an election, etc.

    No wonder politics make most people gag.

  •  AHHH ! com on I was hoping for the usual .. (1+ / 0-)
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    Republican "I was a Poor Back Woods illinois Boy" Stories . You know, the one the love to tell about how they were born in a log cabin with a dirt floor with a pig living in the house here he grew up. love the pig more that his brother ...LOL

    You have to remember that to a Republican anything that the government might make you do that they don't make a profit off of is bad..

    That is why they have no problem with mandatory Car insurance, they profit from it.

    Went they realized that they were being had and that the ACA was heading in the direction of an one payer system Medicare for all Americans that would actually help all Americans get medical coverage without their cut of the pie ,Well that is when the Regressive-republican party went ballistic LOL

  •  Conservative? (1+ / 0-)
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    I think not.  The reason our country continues to go through these cycles of Republicans raising the deficit and charging everything on the nation's credit cards with UNFUNDED wars, oil subsidies, CORPORATE WELFARE, tax cuts & loopholes, etc. .... is the reason we need to vote in Democratic Presidents to clean up their mess.  An asshole like this Republican politician and the rest of his thug chums cannot be leaders in this country because they can't manage their own damned "family budget."  This is what happens when you live COMPLETELY off the American taxpayers and are given too much.  The more you get, the more you want.  It's the way of the RICH.  There is nothing "conservative" about Republicans.  They spend like drunken sailors and then expect the working poor and middle class to pick up their tab.  Why does anybody wonder why they have helped force us back into war in Iraq with bombs, arms and sending soldiers & "advisors."

  •  Tone-deaf, bawling that to $8/hr voters. (0+ / 0-)

    “[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle] created Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson - which proves he was way ahead of his time on gay marriage.” - Bill Maher

    by gardnerhill on Sat Aug 09, 2014 at 05:01:55 PM PDT

  •  Downsize (0+ / 0-)

    This is a no-brainer. If you have a mortgage and/or car payments and/or tuition to a private school for your kids and/or yadda yadda...it's called DOWNSIZING. If a family of 4 can survive on minimum wage, so can you. Cut back on your expenses. Idiot.

  •  Oh, oh, Mr. Kotter! (1+ / 0-)
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    Can I try to live on $274,000 a year? Please?

  •  OMG You have got to be kidding!!!! (1+ / 0-)
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    Really I am on SSI for disability I owe money for my federal student loans, so I only receive 750.00 a month to live on.  Any amount over that the US treasury takes.  ( It isn't a lot but for me being on a very tight budget, every penny counts) And the reason I get 750 is because ASSHOLES SUCH AS THIS JERK  believe that I can live on 750.00 a month.  Honestly!!! And this Bastard is complaining that he is living pay check to pay check while earning over 100,000.00 a year.  WTF.  How about you take my income and I take just half of yours I'll return the other half back to the American Tax payer, you rat bastard.  You will never hear me complain about not having enough to live on.  Maybe you should walk in someone else's shoes for once and then you might know the reality behind actual poverty!!!!  You know if I ever see this Village Idiot in person it will take all the restraint I can muster to not walk up to him and bitch slap him!!!!

  •  In his defense, (0+ / 0-)

    I also make six figures, and prior to my most recent raise, I was sending over 35% of my net pay to my student loan carriers every month - no savings (except for a retirement account which exists only because my employer put money in for me whether I contributed or not), no real property. I was never in danger of not meeting my obligations, but I've never been able to get ahead of the debts, either. I wouldn't describe myself as living hand-to-mouth, but paycheck-to-paycheck, for sure.

    (I got a whopping raise, because we were woefully underpaid compared to both revenue generated and the local market, so my loans are now down to about 25% of take-home pay.)

  •  It's relative (0+ / 0-)

    From my own experience living in SF, when you pay $3150/month rent, making $120k doesn't feel like a lot.

  •  Living paycheck to paycheck the way you do (1+ / 0-)
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    Must be very hard. How many times this week have you changed your clothing or taken a shower. How many times have you used a public restroom to shower and change. How many meals have you eaten out of garbage containers. I can only imagine how hard it is to survive on the pittance you receive after being in office.

    And let`s not forget all the perks you will have for the rest of your life such as the best health benefits in the world.

    Yes I am so sorry to hear of your plight. Hopefully some day you will get a job at McDonald`s or Walmart so you can start earning the wages you are used too.
    By that time minimum wage should be a whole $10.10 an hour so remember to save as much as you can and soon you can move out from under that rock where you live now.

  •  Poor guy. Apparently, he wants to go back to Co... (0+ / 0-)

    Poor guy. Apparently, he wants to go back to Congress where he can good pay & benefits without being productive. Of course, if you count investigative committees, frivolous lawsuits, & impeachments as being productive. Way to go, Bobby!

  •  I went from $55,000 to $23,000 (1+ / 0-)
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    When I became disabled. It was a shock, but I do my best. I refuse to shop at Walmart. I grow my own veggies. I drive a 10 year old car. I cut TV out. I can not get on food stamps or welfare because I receive too much money from SSI by about $10. My disability, (a stroke), will be with me forever so I see myself living from paycheck to paycheck until I die. Or if congress decides there is no need for SSI, I guess I will live in my car.

    Poor Bobby Schilling. I really feel for him

  •  Every Time I see some politician saying they (1+ / 0-)
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    live from check to check, I think, "And who is blackmailing you for what?" I've never made that kind of money in my life, but I don't have the problems they claim. So there has to be some kind of issue, such as being blackmailed.

  •  You Can Live Paycheck to Paycheck (1+ / 0-)
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    At any level. Schilling didn't say he was poor, he just said he spends it all as soon as it comes in, which is hardly a good talking point for a fiscally conservative Republican. Or maybe he's a Reagan Republican, e.g. "Spend a lot but say you're a conservative." I lived in California during the Reagan governance. When he got elected President, all us inhabitants of the Golden State said "California's gain is Washington's loss," because Ronnie had outspent any previous governor of our state.

  •  Hey what happened to the mantra you need to live (1+ / 0-)
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    Within your means like people like Schilling have been saying every time someone poor cries about how little they can afford.

  •  This has been a thing (0+ / 0-)

    with the Republicans for a long, long time.

    Nixon made a point of saying that Pat wore a "cloth coat."  In other words, they were too poor to afford a fur coat for her.  And this was when he was president.

    Apparently Republicans don't manage their own money all that well.  Yet they do keep getting elected to manage ours.  What's up with that?

    As for Schilling's claim that people shouldn't have insurance because they may not need it, he's a former representative, right?  Doesn't the insurance subsidy provided by Congress continue after they're no longer in office?  We must call on him to get rid of this "frivolous amenity."  After all, he may never have to use it - therefore why should we be paying for it?  

    It's money-where-your-mouth-is time, Schilling.

    The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men - - Plato . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We must be the change we wish to see in the world - - Mohandas Gandhi

    by twocrows1023 on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 08:42:07 PM PDT

  •  paycheck to paycheck means, miss a paycheck (0+ / 0-)

    get evicted, or house and car repossessed.  He has NO IDEA what that's like.  Hand to mouth, either.  I've been there, and know he is as ignorant of such experiences as I am of earning 6 figures.

  •  ENTITLED (0+ / 0-)

        TEAPUBLICANS SIMPLY SEE THEMSELVES AS ENTITLED!  They have NEVER MISSED A MEAL in their "poor, poor, miserable" lives!  What an ARROGANT FOOL!!  The most foolish of all would be the voters who would vote for him!!!  DAMN, PEOPLE .......... READ A BOOK ..... HELL, READ TWO........MAYBE YOU'LL LEARN SOMETHING!!!

  •  This quote is a JOKE! (0+ / 0-)
    And the folks that are living paycheck-to-paycheck, which is most Americans, including myself, is that, you know, this is not something that you want to be putting out when you've got a kid that wants to play sports or you want to take a trip for vacation. Instead, you've got to funnel your money over to Obamacare, which is something you might never have to use."
    Yeah you'll never get sick or have an accident.
  •  Someone's taking notes from McConnell's playbook. (0+ / 0-)

    As a lifelong resident of Kentucky, I just about fell off the couch the first time I saw Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's campaign ad, in which he said, "I've lived off of a government salary for 30 years." WHAT THE FUCK? Of course, even though the ad was yanked from the airwaves quick-like-a-bunny by his campaign staff, his words are still coming back to bite him in his wrinkled old ass, and the Democrats are making use of his self-pitying, crying-poor statement to rake him over the coals.

    http://www.30yearsistoolong.com/

    Now Republican ex-Representative Bobby Schilling, who's running for his old seat in Congress, has taken notes from the McConnell playbook, pissing and moaning about having to live hand-to-mouth on the mere pittance of a government salary. Oh, BOO-FUCKING-HOO. I cannot BELIEVE these lazy, lying, thieving bums have the unmitigated gall to bitch about how paltry their government pay is, especially considering that the majority of the taxpayers who pay for these weasels' salaries continue to suffer so badly in this still-sluggish economy.

    It's positively spooky how the economic collapse of 2008, when stocks went down the proverbial crapper, didn't affect most politicians' net worth. The financially savvy, sneaky-snake McConnell is currently listed as the nation's tenth richest senator, with an average net worth reported at $22.8 million. Not only that, he's managed to quadruple his wealth since 2007. So if Bobby Schilling is on a crying jag about having to subsist on a six-figure annual government salary, I'm sure he'll do just fine, if he just keeps at it. The longer a politician stays in Congress, the more filthy lucre he/she accrues.

    Nice work if you can get it, huh? Greedy motherfuckers.

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