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Kevin Swanson is a pastor, home school advocate and radio host known for his vitriol against Gays and everything else the Christian Right demonizes. His broadcast, Generations with Vision is said to have an audience of a hundred thousand listeners.

I know the people at kos have heard it all but the following two quotes from Swanson are as blatant as one could get in calling for all out genocide against the LGBT community.

I'm hard pressed to find anything in the Right Wing blogosphere that's as bad as this.

A Christian perspective ultimately brought the death penalty upon homosexuality between roughly 350 AD and roughly 1850 or so, for about 1,500 years that form of life had pretty much been eliminated except here and there, it was in the closet, but it was almost unheard of for over 1,000 years, until, until recently. Of course, now you have a massive, massive increase in this kind of thing.

Kevin Swanson - Generations Radio: Chik-Fil-A and Boy Scouts Stand Strong - Miss Piggy on a Bun.

See the 2:38-3:18 minute mark.

And this:
...the prosecution of homosexuality, as a general crime, began in the 200s, in the Christian era, when male prostitution was banned by Phillip the Arab. So there was the first, very, very first, Christian law that came into play about 200 years after Christ. So finally start to get some Christian law in place that reigned in this horrible, egregious activity....

By the end of the 4th century, that is about the 380s, passive homosexuality under the Christian empire was punishable by burning and death by sword was the punishment for a man coupling like a woman under the Theodosian code.

Under Justinian all same sex acts passive or active no matter who the partners were declared contrary to nature and punishable by death. Homosexual behavior was pointed to as causes for God’s wrath following a series of disasters around 542 and 559.

Well that was the end of it for about a thousand years or 1200 years. So we had about 1200 year break where societies were enabled to build up and that’s how you get a reasonably decent Christian society...

Swanson Generations Radio: The Shame of Sandusky and the Classical Greek University - Christian Ministries Soften on Homosexuality by Kevin Swanson. July 02, 2012.

See the 10:35-11:51 minute mark

And what was that "reasonably decent Christian society" during the time period he stated? It was known as the Dark and Middle Ages.

Originally posted to Villabolo on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 01:22 PM PDT.

Also republished by Street Prophets .


Upon hearing this, whether you're gay or not, would you buy a firearm in anticipation of a government run by people like this?

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)
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    Glen The Plumber, G2geek, mookins

    A million Arcosantis.

    by Villabolo on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 01:22:52 PM PDT

  •  Firearm? (4+ / 0-)

    No, you are playing into their genocidal nightmare.
    Just make damm sure these bas+ards never gain the kind of power they seek.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 01:35:46 PM PDT

  •  bird-dog him. (2+ / 0-)
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    DavidMS, mookins

    Progressives ought to be mercilessly tracking and surveilling this guy, right up to the limit of the law.

    He's got skeletons and he may even have a closet, just like so many flaming rightwinger sexophobes who end up getting caught with live boys, dead girls, and ads seeking dogs on Craig's List.  The task is to find the skeletons and the closets.


    Alternately, psyop.  Photo editing software is your friend, and a few pictures of him in appropriately-chosen situations could make him go ballistic to the point where he blows up and burns out.  

    For this to work, the first pictures should be of him in the background in crowds or crowded street scenes, for example "accompanied by a woman who is not his wife" more than once in various public places, with captions such as "who is she?".  This gets a "buzz" going, and then more such pictures come out including a couple of closeups.  

    A couple of messages by "the mystery woman," left on home and work voicemail where others might discover them, would be "interesting."

    Force him to react, force him to deny it, and then the game is on and it's only a matter of time before he becomes "baggage" that has to be jettisoned.  

    No, it's not "nice."  Neither is an audience of 100,000 drooling fools with homicidal intentions.  This is an issue of self-defense against a direct threat.

    We got the future back. Uh-oh.

    by G2geek on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 06:42:29 PM PDT

    •  Not a good idea and I'll tell you why. (0+ / 0-)

      If they get treated like that (the psyop aka harassment) they'll shout persecution and he will bask in the sunlight of pseudo-martyrdom. He may even get an increased listenership. That will make him more powerful.

      A million Arcosantis.

      by Villabolo on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 06:53:42 PM PDT

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      •  depends on how it's done. (2+ / 0-)
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        When psyops are successful, the targets may still scream persecution, but their complaints just dig them in deeper.

        Also think of how they got Dan Rather.

        We can do as well or better if we try.

        We got the future back. Uh-oh.

        by G2geek on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 07:56:39 PM PDT

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        •  I still respectfully disagree (0+ / 0-)

          They're already screaming persecution for all sorts of absurd reasons. Martyrdom galvanizes and unifies them just like it galvanized the early Christians.

          If psyops has any value it would be to pit one denomination or group of Christians against them. Politically left but religiously conservative Evangelicals (not to be confused with Liberal Christians) have been criticizing the Right Wing Christians for a while.

          This however is not getting any media attention. If it were, if they were to be pitted against each other in the media spotlight, it would cause a sense of dissonance among the Right Wingers who are not expecting an attack from their rear (metaphorically speaking).

          Those who share a religious ideology but are at odds with their politics are the best weapon that can be used against them.

          A million Arcosantis.

          by Villabolo on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 08:49:05 PM PDT

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          •  Liberal Evangelicals (1+ / 0-)
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            Are they likely to be viewed by the conservatives as false Christians as opposed to fellow believers?  

            Getting conservative evangelicals and Catholics at each other's throats over minor theological points is a win for the rest of us.  Its not the easiest thing to do.  

            I'm a 4 Freedoms Democrat.

            by DavidMS on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 09:04:53 PM PDT

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            •  This is where the cognitive dissonance kicks in. (1+ / 0-)
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              "Liberal Christians" are liberal in both politics and theology. It is they who are considered "false Christians" by the Christian right.

              Evangelicals who are theologically conservative but politically left do share their theology with Right Wing Christians. This confuses the Right Wing who don't want to judge them adversely because they share their Biblical beliefs without reservation.

              Think of it as a permutation of two pairs of choices. There's A and there's B. That gives us 3 not 2 possibilities: AA, AB, BB.

              The middle one as you can see has aspects of both. If you want to fight AA you use AB - not BB - because of what they have in common.

              Catholicism is actually irrelevant to this point as they too fall into the same categories.

              As far as the ease in which we can do it we don't really have to put any effort in getting them to fight; we just have to publicize and sensationalize in the media the division that already exists.

              A million Arcosantis.

              by Villabolo on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 09:26:24 PM PDT

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          •  OK, that we can agree on. (0+ / 0-)

            Agree to disagree on psyop, and we also both agree on wedge strategies.

            Pre-tribulation rapture vs. post-tribulation rapture is one axis of division I'm aware of.  Apparently Jerry Falwell's big success was to get the pre-tribs and post-tribs to stop fighting each other and work together.  That alliance can be fractured again.

            We can probably get along well with politically liberal / religiously conservative Christians, so there is potentially a natural alliance there, and a mutual "live and let live."

            Issue #1 is climate, since scientists are now warning that we're only a few tipping points away from a slide toward human extinction.  In Christian terms this comes under the heading of "Stewardship," respect for God's creation.  

            There is an underlying thread in much of Christianity, against "taking the measure of another's soul," in other words, against criticizing others' religious beliefs.  This issue needs to be addressed: religious progressives ought to be encouraged to criticize the religious right precisely on religious grounds.  The "Prosperity Gospel" of the religious right is a heresy, and "Dominionism" is also a heresy, and megachurches are also arguably a heresy ("I will be present where two or three are gathered together in my name," not two or three thousand with rock concert lighting and slick production values).

            Something else we can all agree on is to support and strengthen religious progressives in general, and encourage them to speak with a strong and outspoken voice.

            Those kinds of steps would achieve successful results, and render moot any issue about psyop or other forms of covert ops.  Covert ops are what one does when dealing with a more powerful adversary, but aren't needed when the playing field has been evened.

            We got the future back. Uh-oh.

            by G2geek on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 10:23:53 PM PDT

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        •  Do it right... (1+ / 0-)
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          and their screams of persecution will sound like paranoia and projection.  

          Do it right and no one will ever know the target was trolled.  

          I'm a 4 Freedoms Democrat.

          by DavidMS on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 09:05:48 PM PDT

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          •  Sound like paranoia to whom? (1+ / 0-)
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            The majority of conservatives are already paranoid and project themselves. They live in an echo chamber and have no need for outside affirmation of their delusions. If they seem to be paranoid it is only in our observation and they couldn't care less what we or others outside of their bubble think about them.

            As I mentioned above we have to adopt a divide and conquer strategy by using their close relatives.

            This is already happening with the issue of global warming and the environment where a small portion of Evangelicals have caused consternation with the right-wingers by coming out in favor of the environment saying that God wants them to preserve it.

            A million Arcosantis.

            by Villabolo on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 09:56:02 PM PDT

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            •  sound like paranoia to undecideds. (1+ / 0-)
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              There is the great mass in the middle, who very often respond to optics.  

              Any concerted strategy against the religious right (psyop, wedge strategies, GOTV drives, anything) will cause them to go on persecution overdrive.  

              There comes a point where their paranoia makes them distasteful to the mainstream, and then things change.

              At root, a lot of the religious right activity over the past three plus decades, was basically oligarchs making the offer of "money for votes."  Oligarch money to build megachurch empires, in exchange for religious right votes for oligarch candidates and causes.  The culture shifts during the Obama administration have put serious holes in that strategy and that alliance.

              We got the future back. Uh-oh.

              by G2geek on Sun Aug 10, 2014 at 10:32:32 PM PDT

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