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"We know this, and then we put it out of our minds, and then something happens to remind us."
By all accounts, Brown was One Of The Good Ones. But laying all this out, explaining all the ways in which he didn't deserve to die like a dog in the street, is in itself disgraceful. Arguing whether Brown was a good kid or not is functionally arguing over whether he specifically deserved to die, a way of acknowledging that some black men ought to be executed.

To even acknowledge this line of debate is to start a larger argument about the worth, the very personhood, of a black man in America. It's to engage in a cost-benefit analysis, weigh probabilities, and gauge the precise odds that Brown's life was worth nothing against the threat he posed to the life of the man who killed him. It's to deny that there are structural reasons why Brown was shot dead while James Eagan Holmes—who on July 20, 2012, walked into a movie theater and fired rounds into an audience, killing 12 and wounding 70 more—was taken alive.

To ascribe this entirely to contempt for black men is to miss an essential variable, though—a very real, American fear of them. They—we—are inexplicably seen as a millions-strong army of potential killers, capable and cold enough that any single one could be a threat to a trained police officer in a bulletproof vest. There are reasons why white gun's rights activists can walk into a Chipotle restaurant with assault rifles and be seen as gauche nuisances while unarmed black men are killed for reaching for their wallets or cell phones, or carrying children's toys. Guns aren't for black people, either.




Blast from the Past. At Daily Kos on this date in 2009Militia Groups on the Rise:

A new report finds that after a ten year lull, armed militia groups are growing rapidly, and officials worry that full blown domestic terrorism could soon follow:
The stress of a poor economy and a liberal administration led by a black president are among the causes for the recent rise, the report from the Southern Poverty Law Center says. Conspiracy theories about a secret Mexican plan to reclaim the Southwest are also growing amid the public debate about illegal immigration.

Bart McEntire, a special agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, told SPLC researchers that this is the most growth he's seen in more than a decade.

"All it's lacking is a spark," McEntire said in the report.

In a rambling, incoherent video that will creep you the hell out in comments below, a leader of the Ohio militia proudly holds up an AR-15 and explains that "things are real bad, it’s gonna get a lot worse, and people need to wake up" and you should all go out and buy guns and "lots and lots of ammo" because ... well he never really says. Between a Nazi reference, a few weird pictures of what looks like Obama in Death caricature, he goes on to complain that militias were unfairly demonized after Oklahoma City, rants about how the militia won the Revolutionary War and our country is in peril.


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On today's Kagro in the Morning show: Thanks to Bill in Portland Maine for his generous tip of the hat to the 3rd anniversary of Daily Kos Radio! Thanks go out to all the people who make the show possible, and to all the people who do the things that make the Daily Kos community the remarkable place it is. A bit of an introspective show today, involving some of the mechanics of how we measure the growth of the show. But Joan McCarter helps save the day, and we discuss Ferguson, the militarization of local cops, the Koch pullout from MI, Joe Miller's ugly AK campaign, the big Dem NC-Sen ad buy, and how Rand Paul stiffed IA evangelicals to party in the Hamptons.




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  •  1,083,608 registered users on dKos now. (14+ / 0-)

    Here are the 10 newest registered users on dKos.  Hope to see their comments and diaries here soon!  (If they're not spammers.)

    jeanetterothenbeck
    andrewboston (user #1,083,600)
    Danao1
    Chuck285
    Hubertns1219
    Roxymr740
    William4320ltd0
    Connie837
    katei
    Giaxta


    And since our society is obsessed with numbers that end in a lot of zeros as milestones, here's a special shoutout to users:
    #1,081,900: Tish3 (already banned)
    #1,082,000: Isaiahro2 (already banned)
    #1,082,100: Ryan1702cgh5
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    #1,083,500: SabriaRenier98n3
    #1,083,600: andrewboston

    We've added 1,754 more users in the last two days.  There's definitely been a recent increase in spammers in the last couple months, and it seems to be getting even faster now.  This is insane.


    And for your Diary Rescue music pleasure, here's Kodaline's "All I Want".

  •  or poor people...or women... (6+ / 0-)
  •  MSNBC: Ferguson, Missouri (10+ / 0-)

    The big news right now is the ongoing chaos in Ferguson.  Chris Hayes is live right now with a special late-night episode to keep up with what is happening.  In his original show tonight, he talked with Trymaine Lee, Jeffrey Mittman, Steven Lerman, and Ryan Reilly.  Rachel talked with Wesley Lowery and Lizz Brown.  Lawrence Trymaine Lee, Ryan Reilly, Sherrilyn Ifill, Jim Cavanaugh, Mustafa Hussein, and Adolphus Pruitt.  (Though only the first half of Lawrence's show has been uploaded so far.)  Michael Eric Dyson, still filling in for Ed, talked with Todd Frankel, Zerlina Maxwell, and Salamishah Tillet.







    Chris also had an update on Iraq.  He also had an update on what Obama may do about immigration reform.

    Rachel started off by covering the latest in Iraq.  She also talked about Obama's possible immigration move with Brad Woodhouse.

    Michael Eric Dyson also talked about Iraq with Rep. John Garamendi (D-CA).  He talked about the increasing weather incidents with Jane Kleeb and Don Anderson.  He noted that Tom Emmer (R) will most likely be replacing Michele Bachmann in Congress in MN-06.  And he talked about the Hillary vs. Obama thing the media's trying to make a thing with Ari Rabin-Havt.

  •  When I grew up (11+ / 0-)

    America had a place for Black People who came down our alleys selling rags, pans, picking up garbage, selling fresh fruits and vegetables from pony drawn carts (Arabs -- pronounced Aye Rabs in Baltimore).  

    They were beaten by cops like my grandfather.  They were marginalized and vilified.  They were murdered with no interest by the police because sometimes they were murdered by the police.

    That was the 1950s.  Someone tell me things haven't changed.  You can't.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:16:08 PM PDT

  •  It's obvious where the right is going. (8+ / 0-)

    What little I caught on Hannity was an interview with Chief Johnson. Hannity's main focus was the alleged shot fired inside of the patrol car. It will probably be writ large in there coming reportage, Benghazi style, if I don't miss my guess.
    And anyone that doesn't believe that all MSM is begging to talk to the Chief, is completely new to reality.

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:16:34 PM PDT

  •  Wanna be a person? incorporate yourself (4+ / 0-)
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  •  Since Obama was elected... (14+ / 0-)

    ...the racists have been acting like a cornered rat.  They make up a huge portion of the Tea Party/GOP base (since the Southern Strategy).

    Ferguson is another data point.  Immigration is another one.

    The Civil War and the Civil Rights movement and MLK moved America in the right direction but we are nowhere near the final destination.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action. UID: 9742

    by Shockwave on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:19:56 PM PDT

    •  Fact to remember and apply (6+ / 0-)

      over 50% of Greek police vote for the Golden Dawn Party.  I believe the ideological predilection approaches the universal.  Cops aren't born that way, it's taught.  Police academy practices and curricula need some serious scrutiny and overhaul.  40 years ago your average cop didn't assert the need to dominate and control every situation from his instant of first contact.  Now they do.  It is clearly DOCTRINE.  That indoctrination must be reversed, by the wholesale firing of forces if that's the only way it can be done.  The only way they can sustain their hostility to their communities themselves is with constant dosing with steroids, I don't believe that's even good for them, never mind the citizens they come in contact with.

      “A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.” —Aldous Huxley

      by ActivistGuy on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:43:04 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  You are right, their culture must change. (3+ / 0-)
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        IMO the best cops in the world are the bobbies.

        I lived in London for 1 year and I saw them do amazing things completely unarmed.  

        My experience with police forces in the US is not positive to say the least.  The culture seems to have become that of an occupying military force.  And I am not black.

        Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action. UID: 9742

        by Shockwave on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:53:16 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Part of the problem is that the culure has ... (3+ / 0-)
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        changed.

        Remember when it seemed like all Doctors were Jewish?? In southern California most Doctors now are either Persian, Indian or Asian. I haven't had a Jewish Doctor in over 20 years.

        Same thing has happened with Policemen. At one time the police were returning servicemen, intelligent, but with little or no post high school education. They didn't want to be cops. But it was a way to step up the social ladder.

        The bullys want to be cops and they have taken over because the grandchildren of the 1940s, 50s, 60s cops have moved up the social ladder, and moved on to better careers.

        If you want better cops in your city, demand that the Civil Service tests weed out all the mentally unfit.

    •  the election of Obama (1+ / 0-)
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      was the confirmation of their fear that "the blacks" are taking over America. And all that racism - hell, let's call it what it is - hate of the black man - was unleashed.

      "Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with their own government" T. Jefferson

      by azureblue on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 10:12:13 PM PDT

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  •  There should be a wholesale reassessment of (12+ / 0-)

    police departments throughout the U.S.

    Even a relatively good police chief, Chief Beck in L.A. was reinstated, but not after he got an earful about what mistakes he had made. But according to the L.A. Times, Beck "bristled at the questioning of his authority." This in a nutshell is what's wrong with cops: they can't stand their "authority" being questioned even by the people who are appointing them.

    We pay their salaries. They are NOT our rulers but our servants. That idea, if lost, needs to be reinstated now before things get further out of hand.

    And whites should start being allies to black people in their quest for justice in this nation. Whites and blacks should join now to reform all police in this country. Too many black are alone in facing all this oppression.

    "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

    by Wildthumb on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:23:24 PM PDT

  •  Anyone else feel... (9+ / 0-)

    what's happening in Ferguson right now is similar to the L.A. Riots in 1992?  One data point I read was that the police force there is almost all white, which was pretty similar to what the LAPD was like before those riots.  While obviously not all our racial problems have been solved, the LAPD of today is much more improved from the LAPD of the 1980s and before.  One of the reasons was the deliberate move to have the LAPD reflect the demographics of their community.  That helped.

    Ferguson is going to need to go through this process as well.  The sooner, the better.

  •  Check this out and the guy who is backing it. (0+ / 0-)

    Protesters lighting Molotov Cocktail.

    http://www.breakingnews.com/

    The responses speak for themselves.

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:31:06 PM PDT

  •  In the Washington Post piece (8+ / 0-)

    written this afternoon, there was some indication that this response is not coming from the Ferguson PD, but from St. Louis County officials, who are the ones that the Ferguson Chief of Police turned the entire investigation over to.

    It looks like the Chief is incompetent, but that someone else is behind this escalation and militarized.

    Also, all the shots of the police in riot gear: all white faces.  That looks far too much like 1960's.

    I mean, in the riots in the aftermath of the Rodney King verdicts, the police force was not so starkly white. This really does look like time traveling.

    Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

    by a gilas girl on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:31:35 PM PDT

  •  'We got the bubble headed Bleached blonde (4+ / 0-)
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    Gooserock, JeffW, GMFORD, Jack K

    Comes on at five.
    Well, I coulda been an actor
    But I wound up here
    I just have to look good
    I don't have to be clear.'

    Elisabeth Hasselbeck links atheists forcing prayer out of school to Christian deaths in Iraq:

    Fox News host Elisabeth Hasselbeck asserted on Wednesday that Christianity should be kept in schools because Christians were being persecuted by Islamic militants in Iraq.

    “It looks like two groups might not get the Bible,” Hasselbeck announce on Wednesday’s edition of Fox & Friends. “There’s a war on religion going on, you know it. And right now Bibles are booted from Navy base guest rooms, and an atheist group is telling a Georgia high school football team to punt the prayers.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/...

    “When I think of right wingers I think of terrorists who plot to kill and terrorize the lives of Planned Parenthood practitioners." ― Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:33:16 PM PDT

  •  Protesters in Ferguson chant about Gaza: (0+ / 0-)

    Building Community. Creating Jobs. Donating Art to Community Organizations. Support the Katalogue

    by UnaSpenser on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:35:12 PM PDT

  •  Elizabeth Matthews, reporter for KSDK, (6+ / 0-)
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    just said on All In w/ Chris, that she was approached by police. She immediately raised her hands.
    It's catching. And she's white.

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:39:31 PM PDT

  •  just finished that article elsewhere, (4+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, Jeff Y, avamontez, nellgwen

    and came here to see what others thought

    right on Hunter, right on!

    "when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"

    by gravlax on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:42:03 PM PDT

  •  Truer words were never spoken (5+ / 0-)
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    Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole. - Ta-Nehisi Coates

    by moviemeister76 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:45:52 PM PDT

  •  Was I tripping, or did I briefly see a diary on (4+ / 0-)
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    the Recent list earlier this evening alluding to the cop that killed that kid in MO being black?

    I didn't read it - just saw the title - but immediately called bullshit anyway because certainly that would have been "a known known" based on the other kid's news interviews.

    Dick Cheney really needs to Shut The Fuck Up.

    by here4tehbeer on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:46:22 PM PDT

  •  Who would have thought (2+ / 0-)
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    in 21st century America there is suck bigotry and hate. From Fox "news", the tea party, a blind and unjust Supreme Court majority, to the racist GOP. How did we get here? This famous statement comes to mind:

        First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a Socialist.

        Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

        Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a Jew.

        Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Martin Niemöller

    A conserative says: "If it hasn't happened to me, I dont care." A liberal says: "This shouldn't happen to anyone, that's why I care."

    by rmb on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 08:56:26 PM PDT

  •  I usually keep my politics to myself in this (8+ / 0-)

    TeaParty town, but yesterday . . ..

    While I was at the park with my dog another dog owner said that his dog enjoyed being there, but it was boring for the owner. I said I did crosswords or read a book to keep occupied. Then he mentioned what he was reading on his smartphone. He complained about the "rioting" in St. Louis, (not the murder of course) and bleeding heart liberals.

    Then I outed myself as a bleeding heart liberal and said I was tired of people being shot down. Then he said he was armed and his weapon wasn't hurting anyone (!) [open carry state]. That's when I started packing up to leave. I said that my dad had fought in WWII, was a sharpshooter but never picked up a weapon again because he said we were a civilized society for which he'd fought that war.

    The gun/dog owning guy said he believed the cop's story. I said that my grandfather had been a state trooper, but that I know policemen are human and not beyond making up a story when they feel threatened, but he reasserted his belief in "the cop."

    The final exchange was weird. He said if liberals had been running things (apparently during WWII) we'd be speaking German now. I pointed that that a liberal, FDR, had been running things and we weren't speaking German. Then I was gone.

    I doubt my words had any affect on this guy, but he made me mad enough to speak up.

    "The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"

    by Lily O Lady on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:01:48 PM PDT

  •  The earlier diary by Kos showing (3+ / 0-)
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    a row of young black men with signs saying "Am I next?" was very powerful.

    I imagined a video showing that line and then they kneel down and behind them is a line of Hispanic men holding the same signs.

    And then they too kneel down revealing a line of native American men holding the same signs.

    And then Asian men.

    Etc.

    I wondered if someone like me would be in one of the lines.  I'm a left-handed atheist white woman who lives alone with a cat.

    Yes, I too could carry a sign saying "Am I next?"

  •  Instant Karma (2+ / 0-)
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    laughing dog photo: Laughing Dog 2BE30B14.gif

    Wife of top Texas anti-gay crusader divorces him to be with lesbian partner:

    The leader of an anti-LGBT group who has joined with Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott to ban same-sex marriage had his own marriage end after his wife began a romantic relationship with another woman.

    According to court documents obtained by Lone Star Q, Corrine Morris Rodriguez Saenz was dating another woman when she filed for divorce from Jonathan Saenz in 2011. Less than six months later, Jonathan Saenz took over as the president of the state’s top anti-gay group, Texas Values.

    Corrine Saenz told the court that she wanted to end her marriage on the grounds that it was “insupportable due to discord or conflict of personalities … that destroys the legitimate ends of marriage and prevents reasonable expectations of reconciliation.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/...

    “When I think of right wingers I think of terrorists who plot to kill and terrorize the lives of Planned Parenthood practitioners." ― Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:04:04 PM PDT

  •  My feeling this is what "Open Carry" is all abo... (2+ / 0-)
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    My feeling this is what "Open Carry" is all about.

    All those Open Carry kerfluffles in Target and Chipotle feature white men, acting a bit too excited about the possibility of shooting someone. They probably have created a circle jerk of fear, egged on by r/w sites and Fox, that scary black hoodlums are going to kill them and take their guns and their women (in that order) and they must protect themselves and "assist" the police.

    The 2nd Amendment truly seems to read the "white" to bear arms.

  •  Hunter, why is it? (1+ / 0-)
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    Why do you, and the Frontpagers as a rule, not give Frontpage credit to the authors you "borrow" three fat paragraphs from?

    In today's instance, the entire article was the borrowed text written by Greg Howard that appeared first in DEADSPIN. Your name appeared above it in bright orange letters.  

    But a dKos reader has to click thru (and of course most don't) to see the real author's name, and the title that published the commentary.

    If you think the article is worth sharing, why doesn't Greg Howard deserve to have his name on the Front Page?

  •  Don't think this can't happen to you (3+ / 0-)
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    This is a result of a complacent society that doesn't vote and is not involved in local politics. The revolution begins at the ballot box.

    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a Socialist.

        Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

        Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a Jew.

        Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Martin Niemöller

    A conserative says: "If it hasn't happened to me, I dont care." A liberal says: "This shouldn't happen to anyone, that's why I care."

    by rmb on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:15:38 PM PDT

  •  I believe that people who want to join (0+ / 0-)

    a police force are people that are dying to do good.
    Then, they find out they are in a clique. Good or bad.
    Such, is any world of power.

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:19:13 PM PDT

  •  Alderman Antonio French has been arrested!!!! (2+ / 0-)
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    https://vine.co/...

    People are at the jail.

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:30:32 PM PDT

    •  Sorry, meant Citizen Journalist. Man, (0+ / 0-)

      is it moving.

      Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

      by franklyn on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:45:10 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Turns out, he is alderman. 21st ward. nt (0+ / 0-)

        Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

        by franklyn on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:58:28 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Why I think it is important. (0+ / 0-)

          An alderman arrested. A man who is the most important citizen journalist in the country since Michael Brown was allegedly (Please) murdered in broad daylight in front of an on the spot, I can smell your breath, witness.
          Jeeze, think anybody'll notice?

          Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

          by franklyn on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 11:01:41 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  And to think it was just last week that a (2+ / 0-)
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    Republican mental midget from Alabama was whining about a so-called 'War on Whites.'

    A ‘War on Whites?’ Please

    At this point, you really have to wonder: Is it still news when a Republican says something asinine?

    On the off chance it is, let us spend a few moments pondering the strange case of Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks, who said recently that the Democratic Party is waging a “War on Whites.”

    Yeah, he actually said that. You can look it up if you want.

    That idea was always wrongheaded and dumb. Very soon it will become electorally untenable as well. So the GOP must learn to speak a language it has shunned to people it has ignored.

    http://www.timesdispatch.com/...

    “When I think of right wingers I think of terrorists who plot to kill and terrorize the lives of Planned Parenthood practitioners." ― Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:34:06 PM PDT

  •  I lived in Chicago in the 60's (0+ / 0-)

    and saw tanks in the streets in 68.
    Is this the America the GOP wants to go back to?
    Want for it no more it's here.

    I want to be the next Secretary of Antics.

    by nellgwen on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 09:55:22 PM PDT

  •  Excellent history of the AUMF (0+ / 0-)

    and how dangerous it is on radio lab today:

    https://www.wnyc.org/...

    Is it better to lose than be lost?

    by Publius2008 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 10:01:27 PM PDT

  •  God Bless You Mr. Rosewater (0+ / 0-)

    and Ian Murphy, too. A wild hair was tickling my ass and I decided to re-listen to "David Koch" having a long, drawn-out telephone conversation with Wisconsin's infamous Scotty Walker.

    An eye-opening experience again, with only audio, even years afterward.

    "Gawd" bless you, Mr. Ian Murphy.

    The money is not only an integral part of the puzzle when making a vain attempt to "grok" the insanity in Missouri or Gaza or fill in the blank. It's an instruction manual written in gibberish.

    Sort of like every police-handbook, ever.

    There was no other direction for the country of humanity to go.

    The Holy Bible or the Koran or Aunt Judy's ramblings when she's in a trance conversing with a snake.. and Delusional Rich People cojoining in some unholy bag of stupid are maybe the Perfect Humanity-fucking Storm.

    Being slightly xenophobic and depressive and too old and sick to have much of an excuse to give an agnostic damn, I still find the whole idiotic dance.. embarrassing.

    Dear future generations: Please accept our apologies, We were roaring drunk on petroleum -Kurt Vonnegut

    by Anthony Page aka SecondComing on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 10:07:31 PM PDT

  •  Ohio blithering idiot knows no history (0+ / 0-)

    It wasn't the militia that won the American Revolution, it was regular Continental troops that had been trained to a simplified version of the Prussian drill by a German immigrant who had probably heavily padded his resume (and may possibly have been gay).

    That and LOTS of French troops and the French Navy in the right place at the right time.

    Blithering idiot still believes all the lies his teacher taught him - if the teacher taught him anything at all.

    If it's
    Not your body,
    Then it's
    Not your choice
    And it's
    None of your damn business!

    by TheOtherMaven on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 10:09:21 PM PDT

    •  American Revolution in the Carolinas (0+ / 0-)

      Two interesting American victories: (1) The Cowpens, an intelligent use of combined forces including militia, regulars, and Daniel Morgan's riflemen; (2) King's Mountain, where American militia did defeat a (relatively small) recruiting and foraging expedition.

  •  Anyone else's browser(s) behaving strangely? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    here4tehbeer

    I'm having trouble (unable to) connecting with long-established links... KPIG, KDFC (two FM music sites), and when dKos is open to front page (altho not know) I'm getting a really strange repetitive sound from my speakers...  I'm paranoid, I believe, from watching the police tactics in Missouri, and someone mentioned reading Iron Heel again...  just wondering...  I have no problems believing that gov't can hone in on anything I do any time it wants, but I'm not that suspicious a character...

    ???

    How children dance to the unlived lives of their parents. Rilke

    by ceebee7 on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 11:13:03 PM PDT

    •  It's that fucking Vine video loop… there's audio (0+ / 0-)

      on it (very low ambience and one audible "pop") that unmutes every time the page reloads.

      Dear NRA: Does this make the Ferguson cops "good guys" with guns?

      by here4tehbeer on Wed Aug 13, 2014 at 11:44:18 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  What is this please? (0+ / 0-)

        At least glad to see your response... I can't get the site to refresh...  at least it seems that way.

        What is Vine video loop and how to get rid of/around it?  Is it affecting the entire site?  My opening page seems frozen in time.

        How children dance to the unlived lives of their parents. Rilke

        by ceebee7 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 12:19:13 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Don't think that was/is it... You mean (0+ / 0-)

        the Vine video posted a little ways above?

        That's not the difficulty I'm having.  I just sent Navajo an email asking if dKos had been hacked.  I don't get the faint video sound when a sub-section has been accessed -- just when the front page is open.  And I have no idea why the site isn't refreshing... altho it apparently is processing new comments.

        How children dance to the unlived lives of their parents. Rilke

        by ceebee7 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 12:26:22 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Hmmm... guess it's ok now... I just opened (0+ / 0-)

          a fresh diary...altho I still get that sound, and  I can't open some apps I always use... on Safari OR Google Chrome... maybe it's my computer...

          Anyway, never mind.  And thanks.

          How children dance to the unlived lives of their parents. Rilke

          by ceebee7 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 12:30:40 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  On the front page is a diary from Kos about the (0+ / 0-)

            Ferguson stuff, and the second piece of embedded media is a "Vine"... which is some kind of video tweet thing that allows someone with a camera phone to upload short, looping video and audio content. Think "gif with sound".

            Anyway, that's what's auto playing whenever the dk front page loads, and depending on ones browser might be responsible for commandeering and or mucking with the sound on other pages.

            There's a mute button on the lower right corner of the looping video that will silence the thing until something refreshes the page and it unmutes :(

            Poor design.

            Dear NRA: Does this make the Ferguson cops "good guys" with guns?

            by here4tehbeer on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 12:55:38 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  Whoever you are in the 99% (0+ / 0-)

    someone in the 1% sees you as you see foreigners.

  •  That tweet of the day should probably read: (0+ / 0-)
    The black family—the absence of fathers—is the problem," wrote some white person in a column about Mike Brown, who had a dad

    When lots of people show up to vote, Democrats tend to win.

    by Audri on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 05:50:05 AM PDT

  •  Things can be a lot better... (0+ / 0-)

    But please name me an OECD country where there is more opportunity and things are better as a whole for those of sub-saharan african descent?

    The militarization of police is something i have railed on, but in the UK police don't carry because the country isn't overflowing with weaponry accessible to the population like it is here.

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