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U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama bumps fists with his wife Michelle before his speech at his South Dakota and Montana presidential primary election night rally in St. Paul, Minnesota, June 3, 2008.
Oh, he's clever.
Don't be fooled, the savvy Republican congressman says. President Obama wants to be impeached. Oh, how he wants to be impeached, all as a sneaky plot to make the Republicans look bad.
“Believe me, let’s make one thing perfectly clear,” said Rep. Mick Mulvaney of South Carolina in a radio interview with WQSC 1340 last week. “The only people who want impeachment more than the right wing of the Republican Party is the entire Democrat Party.”

“Oh, they’re desperate for impeachment. They would love to be able to talk about impeachment and immigration between now and the November elections. Instead of talking about jobs, and the economy, and health care. They are desperate to change the dialogue, which is exactly why you heard the president starting to talk about his amnesty cause he’s begging to be impeached.”

Hey pal, whatever helps you make sense of this topsy-turvy world.
“Let’s not fall into a trap when the guy absolutely wants to be impeached,” the congressman said, citing money raised by Democrats exploiting the supposed threat of impeachment
Should we be rooting for this theory to take hold? For Republicans to finally convince themselves and the crackpots of their base to stop talking about how the president ought to be impeached because that's exactly what Obama wants them to talk about? That Sarah Palin et al. are just pawns in this masterful game of chess? But wait—the theory is that the president is going to pursue "amnesty" or other supposedly impeachable things in order to force Republicans to impeach him. So will Republicans need to impeach Obama for wanting to be impeached, since Obama is counting on not being impeached to do things that they would impeach him for?

Hmm, we're going to have to make a flowchart for this one. Suffice it to say that whatever Republicans are doing at any point in time, it's all Barack Obama's fault.

Originally posted to Hunter on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 02:51 PM PDT.

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  •  Heh (10+ / 0-)

    This is actually one of the most insightful and truthful things a Republican Congressman has ever said. Obama does want to be impeached. It'd be a great way to turn the cycle more in our favor.

    •  Ya know, I agree with you (0+ / 0-)

      It will be interesting to see how the President times his announcement of (what we are told are to be) his up-coming executive actions on immigration reform.  Now, if he is really trying to goad the House into launching impeachment proceedings, they will be far reaching changes with significant impact.  But, they will also be changes similar to actions taken by previous Republican presidents.  The Tea Parry ... will ... go ... nuts ... (ok, even MORE nuts).

      Now, the House is scheduled to be back in session on September 8th(House of Representatives Schedule as of  Friday, August 15, 2014).  So, if President Obama wanted to provoke maximum impeachment momentum, I think he would unveil his immigration reforms sometime in the 2 week period before September 8th.  So, that would be on or after August 25th and before September 8th.

      Smiling and waiting.

      "But all in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." - bush, summing up his first year in office, 3 months after 9/11, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2001

      by rmx2630 on Fri Aug 15, 2014 at 02:06:44 AM PDT

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      •  The thought of all (2+ / 0-)
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        Greenfinches, AmazingBlaise

        of those republican heads exploding at the same time brings a smile to me.

        If you are not the lead dog, the view never changes.

        by RepresentUsPlease on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 07:08:44 PM PDT

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        •  The part that gets me is about changing dialogue. (4+ / 0-)
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          Maggiemad, hardwroc, lrganassi, rabrock

          So the democrats want to change the dialogue from "jobs, and the economy, and health care."  Why would they possibly want to do that?  Republicans and their corporate friends brought about outsourcing of manufacturing and call centers, the economy is steadily recovering from the mess brought about by Bush-Cheney and friends, and more people in the US have affordable health care than at any time in the past.

          I hope that every DEM candidate emphasizes these points in the dialogue every chance they get.  The GOP's continued attempts to sell "Reaganomics" appeals only to their base, the disciples of Faux News and the Wall Street Journal.  The Reagan experience and those of the Bush family have provided conclusive evidence that deregulation and tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy have produced nothing but an economically polarized society not seen in the US since the days of the robber barons.

          •  Fauxx New and WJS are the walls.. (0+ / 0-)

            15 Fox News personalities participated in AFP and in Americans for Prosperity Foundation (AFPF) events since 2012

            one Wall of the Koch echo chamber

            Keith Rupert Murdoch's WJS the other wall of the Chamber

            Chairman and CEO of 21st Century Fox (2013–present) who also happens to be the Owner of  Fauxx

            Koch brothers and Rupert Murdoch, were bankrolling Tea Party groups back In 2010..  

            can we say tag team wrestling match for control of the congress.  

             

            •  y'know, (2+ / 0-)
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              hardwroc, rabrock

              O doesn't have to do anything. The impeachment crowd are the ones who brought it to the table in the first place. and now that it's shown to be laughable they're doing what they always seem to do; blame it on the other guy no matter how twisted crazy it sounds.

              O's just there, thinkin - mmmm. . . if you're really stupid enough to do that bring it. Of course he's mocked them a little bit, I would, anyone with a brain would.

              . . . but only in a world where the tyranny of a wealthy powerful minority is preferable to the "tyranny of the majority" they often cite as being so horrible could the idea that the Democrats brought impeachment up to make the republicans look bad get any traction.

               - cue black helicopter noises

              •  Yes, apparently Obama pulled the Jedi mind trick (1+ / 0-)
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                rabrock

                on them and they are powerless to use their common sense or think, as a result.
                OR, like any wife beater, "he MADE them do it", and now they're just powerless to stop themselves.

          •  changing dialogue (1+ / 0-)
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            rabrock

            yeah really, why does Obama need to change the dialogue ?  Republicans have done so much on jobs, the economy, healthcare, etc.  Ha.Ha.  

            Bringing up Impeachment and repealing the Affordable Care Act and standing against a rise in the minimum wage is what the Republicans have.  And of course a do nothing Congress.

            I will give credit where it is due though.  The man from South Carolina appears to be bright enough to see the Impeachment rhetoric is a mistake and he is desperately trying to extricate foot from mouth for the Republicans.  

          •  Agreed Expat. It's one thing to be confused by (1+ / 0-)
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            rabrock

            rhetoric and partisanship, but, to ignore practical results of the policy,  after 30 years of use, is to ignore reality in preference to partisanship at cost to the entire nation save a small few .
            IF it IS broke, stop pretending it's working just fine. It is NOT working just fine for 98% of us.

          •  Don't they realize just how stupid & ridiculous (1+ / 0-)
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            rabrock

            they sound?  They are the ones who brought up suing the president and trying to impeach him, but then they turn around and say it is just a figment of the Democrat's  imagination and we are just saying this to pump up our base and get donations flowing in to the Democratic party.  One thing is for sure, they are right, it has really motivated the Democratic base and gotten money flowing into the Democratic party, from small donations, big time.  It isn't helping them either, by the Democrats bringing out the way the Koch brothers operate, by using their many shady organizations, to donate to the Republican party, to buy the elections.  The Koch brothers are running scared and have begun running TV ads, in Northeastern WI trying to convince us how great they are.  They are bringing out all the good things they are doing for the public, with all the jobs they have created and products their companies produce, which benefit all of us and where would we be, without them?  Of course they don't want the public to know they are the main funding source of the Republican party, trying to buy the elections, so they can keep Republicans in positions of power, to benefit the upper 1%.  I never saw the Koch brothers do this before.  The news, which this web site and other Democratic web sites are putting out exposing what they are doing, must be making them a little worried, if they have resorted to running TV ads saying how great they are.  I wonder if the Republicas figure people forgot they were the ones, when Obamacare came out, who wanted the President to postpone the employer mandates for one year.  Now that he has agreed to do it, they are suing him for doing what they wanted him to do in the first place.  Are they counting on the public forgetting how they tried shutting down the government costing the public so much money and loss of jobs, because of it?  Do they think the public won't realize how all these frivolous law suits are costing a lot of Taxpayer money.  By their actions, they are just making their party look more and more foolish and ridiculous, especially the way they are cowtowing to the Teabags, in their party.  I always thought you had to have a little common sense and some education, to be able to hold public office.  I never thought I knew enough, to be in a position like this, but seeing some of the people, who were elected and how idiotic they are, I don't think I could do any worse.
             

        •  Heads exploding? (1+ / 0-)
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          rabrock

          Wish there might be a way we could all watch that, but the very notion of it brings a big smile to my face, too.  I've read that rather convoluted statement by the congressman twice, and I'm still trying to disentangle the grammar so I can attempt to understand what he thinks he said!
          Then I realized he said the president isn't talking about jobs, economy, health care, which seems a bit odd, because I thought he's been doing that all along.  Am I wrong, or have the Republicans been pushing those topics but I've just not noticed it?

        •  Poor Janitor. . . (1+ / 0-)
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          rabrock

          I would hate to be the janitor that would have to clean up after that. yuk what a mess.

          /s/ A reformed republican.

    •  Rep. Mulvaney: Dumbass (1+ / 0-)
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      Maggiemad

      Umm, Rep. Mulvaney, the Democrats don't want Obama impeached. The only people who do are a small handful mentally challenged Republican politicians who get their funding from the Koch Brothers (speaking of mentally challenged people).

      Can we just impeach the entire GOP/Tea Party out of office? If that's possible I say get on it right now!

      •  It's GETTING too CRAZY to LAUGH some DAYS (1+ / 0-)
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        Maggiemad

        Mulvaney and the mentally impacted obsessive destructive politicians are beginning to realize they have no functioning role in all this in their own heads......get this....
        NOW it's President Obama's fault for him trying to get him self destroyed so he won't get destroyed.
        These jelly brains are concerned they don't have a role to play....they don't know what's going on and they are just discovering they never knew what was going on.

    •  As for a flowchart (2+ / 0-)
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      Maggiemad, rabrock

      I'll suggest a very, very simple one that is factual.
      A circle.

  •  Dear God, the Bozos on that bus are amazing, (13+ / 0-)

    to get any dumber they'd need to clone Palin and maybe Bachmann, Steve King's father must have really 'gotten around'.

    May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

    by oldcrow on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 02:57:38 PM PDT

  •  "Topsy-Turvy World", by William Brighty Rands: (6+ / 0-)
    Topsy-Turvy World

    IF the butterfly courted the bee,
    And the owl the porcupine;
    If churches were built in the sea,
    And three times one was nine;
    If the pony rode his master,
    If the buttercups ate the cows,
    If the cats had the dire disaster
    To be worried, sir, by the mouse;
    If mamma, sir, sold the baby
    To a gypsy for half a crown;
    If a gentleman, sir, was a lady,—
    The world would be Upside-down!
    If any or all of these wonders
    Should ever come about,
    I should not consider them blunders,
    For I should be Inside-out!

    Chorus

    Ba-ba, black wool,
    Have you any sheep?
    Yes, sir, a packfull,
    Creep, mouse, creep!
    Four-and-twenty little maids
    Hanging out the pie,
    Out jump’d the honey-pot,
    Guy Fawkes, Guy!
    Cross latch, cross latch,
    Sit and spin the fire;
    When the pie was open’d,
    The bird was on the brier!

    "To take another person's life from the bench is no better than to take another person's life from the street"

    by commonmass on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:06:08 PM PDT

  •  I almost hope they move forward (8+ / 0-)

    Of course doing so would make the government even more dysfunctional--if such a thing is possible considering the Herculean efforts of the GOP dominated House. And government dysfunction hurts regular people; government grinding to a halt hurts the country.

    The only upside is it would draw a line. If the GOP/Teaparty were to impeach President Obama then no reasonable person could stay on the fence. In the impeachment scenario each citizen, each member of Congress would have to show their true colors.

    I want the GOP/Teaparty nutjobs to be required to unequivocally, on the record, support impeachment for the crime of "Presidentin' While Black." I want them to stand and own their part in the years long effort to sabotage the Obama presidency (with the working class/middle class as acceptable collateral damage).

    •  of course we do (5+ / 0-)

      The impeachment of Clinton did democrats a net positive, and we can still laugh about the incredible waste of money that the republicans demanded just to right a pornographic piece of fiction.  The only impeachment that had justification would have been Reagan, but he was no longer in control of his faculties when that came about.  Not impeaching Bush II was a tactical victory on the part of the democrats and probably help elect Obama, as it showed democrats were people who solved problems, not create them.

      The calculus of impeaching Obama is complicated.  On the one hand it could remind people that Clinton was basically impeached, and reduce the chances for Clinton II.  It is not going to impact the election as it did with Gore because the VP is not running.  Right now it's main effect is to mobilize the GOP base, in hopes of winning both chambers in november.

      Given that GOP is saying Palin is part of the Obama administration who promotes impeachment, we can assume that impeachment strategy is not working.

      She was a fool, and so am I, and so is anyone who thinks he sees what God is doing. -Kurt Vonnegut Life is serious but we don't have to be - me

      by lowt on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 06:52:15 PM PDT

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  •  Dumb as a sack of hair. (5+ / 0-)
  •  this congressman lives in an imaginary world. (2+ / 0-)
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  •  He's complaing about the GOP "right-wing?" (8+ / 0-)

    Mulvaney is Tea Party to the bone. He's as right-wing as they get. Don't be bashing your own kin, Mick!

  •  It's a... (10+ / 0-)

    valiant try, but it's the people you have to go by. And when the people are polled on whether Obama should be impeached, it's overwhelmingly Republicans that want Obama to be impeached, and not just the people in the "right wing of the Republican Party".

    Sure Democratic politicians might be hyping and goading Republican politicians into daring to impeach Obama, but Mick doesn't get to obfuscate about which party's rank and file base is salivating at the impeachment notion...it's his.

    "It's almost as if we're watching Mitt Romney on Safari in his own country." -- Jonathan Capeheart

    by JackND on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:10:23 PM PDT

  •  Impeachement worked out so well for them with (2+ / 0-)
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    annieli, skillet

    Clinton. Not.

    However, the country is in a different mood. I suspect it would help the GOP in the states Obama didn't carry plus a few that he did (given the proliferation of restrictive voting laws) but I suspect it would NOT help the Democrats for another one of these dog and pony show impeachments.

    I very much doubt the President "wants" it. I also very much doubt they're going to impeach.

    "To take another person's life from the bench is no better than to take another person's life from the street"

    by commonmass on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:11:12 PM PDT

  •  If it weren't for those pesky Democrats (8+ / 0-)

    ... making them say and do stupid things publicly, the Republicans would be fine!

    Well, they could hush it up a lot more successfully, anyway.

    This is not a sig-line.

    by Joffan on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:20:03 PM PDT

  •  please proceed to the patch, GOP (6+ / 0-)

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:22:11 PM PDT

  •  What, no double secret probation? (5+ / 0-)

    We are all made of star stuff, so please be kind to dust bunnies.

    by jwinIL14 on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 03:23:21 PM PDT

  •  Gotta love the Party of Personal (4+ / 0-)

    Responsibility blaming every dumb move they make on someone else -- Obama and/or the Democrats made me do it!

    For those of you who are old enough to remember: "The Devil made me buy this dress!"

  •  Duck Soup (2+ / 0-)
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    I love OCD, Mopshell

    I think it is time for a "Rufus T. Firefly" award for the day. This guy would certainly qualify in the running.

  •  The Outer Limits and The Twilight Zone meet in ... (3+ / 0-)
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    psnyder, Schnitzie, Mopshell

    The Outer Limits and The Twilight Zone meet in RW minds, and this drivel is the result. We now have excellent anti- psychotic drugs. May I suggest you all seek help immediately?

  •  Mulvaney not so stupid (1+ / 0-)
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    Mopshell

    He's one of the few who knows that if Obama got impeached it would be a windfall for the Dems.

    •  But by keeping the topic in the public eye, (1+ / 0-)
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      JeffW

      and allowing/enabling/encouraging their "base" to visualize it, he's really fanning the flames.

      Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
      I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
      —Spike Milligan

      by polecat on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 06:54:13 PM PDT

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  •  Republicans are BEST to make themselves look bad (1+ / 0-)
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    Mopshell

    On this one, Republicans are trying to outsmart themselves: make people believe that Democrats are forcing them to impeach Obama to make Republicans look bad.

    And, per these people, Republicans are so good ad intelligent that…they will just do that??

    Listen, Republicans, if you are this weak and stupid, you don't deserve the White House. Heck, at that level of stupidity you shouldn't be allowed to vote!

  •  Impeachment Week begins August 23rd (0+ / 0-)

    I have no idea whose brainfart this is or who's organizing it but, if it takes off among the tea party folks, there should be plenty of popcorn moments in the last week of August. (◕‿◕)

    Here is the announcement and a list of the activities they plan:

    What This Group Is Doing Could Be A Game Changer For The Impeachment Of Obama

    Please note that lamps in the Magic Lamp Emporium are on a genie time-share program so there may be a slight delay in wish fulfillment. (◕‿◕)

    by Mopshell on Thu Aug 14, 2014 at 10:07:25 PM PDT

    •  per your link... (1+ / 0-)
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      Mopshell
      Frequent bizarre and erratic behavior, which is a disturbing sign of psychological pathology
      Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/...
      Of all the alleged crimes committed by President Obama, as listed in the article, this one seems the most far-fetched.  

      I don't recall the president shooting his friend in the face, for instance, or speaking of an illegal war one moment, then saying, "watch this drive" while swinging a golf club the next.  

      Could the Tea Party crowd be confusing President Obama with some other individuals who have demonstrated such bizarre, erratic behavior?  Could it be that the Tea Party crowd is just confused in general?  

      •  The tea party crowd is batshit crazy! (0+ / 0-)

        I doubt there are enough therapists to deal with them all!

        The "frequent bizarre and erratic behavior" is clearly a projection of their own behavior - read their comments!

        Mind you, I like this idea: "protests at the offices/town-halls of congressmen and in front of Government buildings". Nothing like putting pressure on your own party to commit political suicide - more power to them, I say! I hope they get a good turn out and plenty of media attention. I'm going to enjoy the responses from the likes of Steve King, Louie Gohmert etc when they're asked by the media for their reactions. (◕‿◕)

        Please note that lamps in the Magic Lamp Emporium are on a genie time-share program so there may be a slight delay in wish fulfillment. (◕‿◕)

        by Mopshell on Sun Aug 17, 2014 at 08:07:23 AM PDT

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    •  OOOOh, my jaw hurts! (1+ / 0-)
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      Mopshell

      From suddenly dropping so wide open after reading the posts on that link.  
      I think that site is wrongly named, since there's very little "journalism" on it, and it seems to have drawn a very strange group of followers, with only one apparently being of good sense ( and being jumped al over immediately!)
      Scary people there, certainly.

      •  Tea party crazies never did quite get the hang (1+ / 0-)
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        rabrock

        of using words according to their actual meanings - Michele Bachmann on the Intelligence committee comes to mind. It's as though they deliberately set out to debase word meanings by flagrant misuse and abuse. Mind you, the term "journalism" has suffered from this treacherous treatment for some years now and not just by the tea party crazies.

        Please note that lamps in the Magic Lamp Emporium are on a genie time-share program so there may be a slight delay in wish fulfillment. (◕‿◕)

        by Mopshell on Mon Aug 18, 2014 at 10:06:54 PM PDT

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  •  What do you mean, "please proceed?" n/t (0+ / 0-)
  •  They're an order of fries short of a happy meal. (0+ / 0-)

    They're an order of fries short of a happy meal.

  •  A desperate attempt (0+ / 0-)

    to stop the GOP cutting its own throat.

    I can applaud the tactics even as I hope for their failure.

    This is not a sig-line.

    by Joffan on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 06:36:21 PM PDT

  •  Thug've become a parody of a parody of the paraody (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, BornLiberal

    At this point, I think there is no Thug party.

    Just a Kock Inc. street theater company.

  •  Palin would have just quit. Thanks, Obama. (2+ / 0-)
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    sethtriggs, BornLiberal

    I remember sonic booms.

    by here4tehbeer on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 06:45:14 PM PDT

  •  "...jobs, and the economy and health care" ? (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, sweatyb, sethtriggs

    Why do I think that President Obama - and most Democrats, for that matter - would only be too happy to turn the topics of discussion towards those subjects? If only to point out that the Republicans have done, at most, nothing about the first, next-to-nothing about the second, and little but hollow "repeal Obamacare" drivel about the third. AFAICT, the "immigration and impeachment" blather is coming mainly from one side of the aisle (the ones with the Elephant logo). A change of subject would be welcome....

  •  I immediately (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    RadGal70

    thought of a Sicilian and two poisoned cups of wine.

  •  When you tell an angry toddler not to do something (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    RadGal70, JeffW, AmazingBlaise

    that's pretty much what you're going to get.

    Yes. I'm calling the GOP a party of angry toddlers.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 06:52:36 PM PDT

  •  Establishment GOP say "No credible Republican" (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    unfortunately incredible/ uncredible GOP become credible overnight ask Eric Cantor

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 06:53:34 PM PDT

  •  I'd want to be impeached too, if I were him... (0+ / 0-)

    Lord knows I have my issues with his Presidency, but some of the obstruction and hatred he's had to face would have me saying, "Go to hell, America! Michelle and I are moving to Honolulu!"

  •  Obama wants Republicans to do stupid things! (4+ / 0-)

    Obama wants Republicans to listen to Ted Cruz.
    Obama wants Paul Ryan to author the Republican economic platform.
    Obama wants Republicans to nominate Tea Party candidates in every competitive district.
    Obama wants Republicans to propose tax cuts for rich people and cuts to the safety net as "jobs bills"

    And so does the Republican base!

    •  Obama wants Republicans to compromise. (0+ / 0-)

      What you wrote is silly, except for the last line. Obama wants Republicans to compromise. It's fair to say that Obama tolerates the Republican rant because he knows that most Americans think the Republicans are way out of touch with reality.

  •  Is it just me, or does Mulvaney's "logic" sound (2+ / 0-)
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    sethtriggs, Dirk McQuigley

    like this from The Princess Bride:

    Man in Black: All right. Where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right... and who is dead.

    Vizzini: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

    Man in Black: You've made your decision then?

    Vizzini: Not remotely. Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows, and Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.

    Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

    Vizzini: Wait till I get going! Now, where was I?

    Man in Black: Australia.

    Vizzini: Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

    Man in Black: You're just stalling now.

    Vizzini: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.

    Man in Black: You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.

    Vizzini: IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE POISON IS!

    Above courtesy of IMDb

    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it." -- Neil DeGrasse Tyson

    "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."
    -- Aldous Huxley

    by ThePhlebob on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 07:30:47 PM PDT

  •  Perry got himself indicted 2 improve his presiden- (3+ / 0-)

    tial chances. Chris Chistie will run for president from John Gotti's old cell....these guys will show Obama that wishing to be impeached is a wimps play....

  •  So it's President Obama who (3+ / 0-)

    wants Republicans to impeach him. If only there were some way to foil his dastardly plan.

  •  Scary (1+ / 0-)
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    chloris creator

    Another glimpse into the strange minds in Bizarro World.

  •  They've figured it all out... (0+ / 0-)
    Oh, they’re desperate for impeachment. They would love to be able to talk about impeachment and immigration between now and the November elections. Instead of talking about jobs, and the economy, and health care. They are desperate to change the dialogue, which is exactly why you heard the president starting to talk about his amnesty cause he’s begging to be impeached.”
    I mean, why would Democrats want to talk about jobs between now and November?  It's not like they could talk about all their hard work on a Jobs Bill that Republican obstructionism killed.  And, why on earth would Dems want to discuss all of the countless efforts they have made at positively impacting the economy, like extending unemployment benefits, working for a higher minimum wage and pay equity, and introducing bills to fix our crumbling infrastructure - all met with more Republican obstructionism?  And, there's no way any Democrat would want to focus attention on health care, which millions more Americans have access to now under the ACA, and which Republicans have tried to repeal over 50 times.  No, smart Democrats would much rather explain to their constituents why the government is once again wasting hundreds of thousands of tax dollars on theater instead of addressing our real concerns.
  •  Make Republicans Look Bad (1+ / 0-)
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    AmazingBlaise

    I didn't realize they needed any help doing that.

    •  Republicans look bad (1+ / 0-)
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      rabrock

      all by themselves, but they've slowed down just a tad of late.  Maybe this vacation will let them catch their breath.  Seeing what they come up with on their return should be rather interesting and quite possibly very amusing.

  •  From the diary... (0+ / 0-)

    "Hmm, we're going to have to make a flowchart for this one. Suffice it to say that whatever Republicans are doing at any point in time, it's all Barack Obama's fault."

      --Hunter--

    AND, suffice it to say that whatever it is, its all going to backfire, and blow up in their sorry faces.

    "These 'Yet To Be' United States" --James Baldwin--

    by kevinbr38 on Sun Aug 17, 2014 at 03:56:52 AM PDT

  •  But but but he's MAKING us impeach him because... (0+ / 0-)

    he doubled dog-dared us. Well conserve-a-clowns, when you are dopes, it's fucking as easy as shooting fish and a barrel to lure you into rope-a-dope. I can't wait to see Mohammed Ali, er, Barack Obama, unload all those stinging jabs in your stupid faces. Obama boomaye. Please proceed.

  •  IF they do impeach, House Dems should boycott (0+ / 0-)

    the hearings.

  •  Now we need a theory... (0+ / 0-)

    ...that states that the President is actually terrified of being impeached but goes around acting all confident and stuff so the GOP won't impeach him.

    Then we might get that impeachment vote before election day!

  •  Democrats Want Obama Impeached... (2+ / 0-)
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    "….to make the Republicans look bad"?  Really?  I believe that ship sailed quite some time ago, with Republicans at the helm--and no life-preservers in sight.

  •  This sentence, (2+ / 0-)
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    "So will Republicans need to impeach Obama for wanting to be impeached, since Obama is counting on not being impeached to do things that they would impeach him for?"
    is fabulous.
  •  Obama (0+ / 0-)

    Oh, he wants it. You can tell he wants it. He is asking for it. You ought to give it to him. That'll teach him.

  •  Oh yes, (2+ / 0-)
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    Maggiemad, rabrock

    just another way for TGOPs avoid the responsibilities of their "elected" offices.

  •  Will oppose wahtever Obama wants... (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Maggiemad

    is what gets the votes from the wingnuts. Most in GOP know this and since they also know that 'impeachment' (something that they have promoted as part of their talking points) is going nowhere, they want to spread the narative that Obama wants impeachment and so let us not give it to him. This is the new 2014 election talking point.

  •  Republicans trying to overthrow the Government? (2+ / 0-)
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    Maggiemad, rabrock

    Not only do we worry about the commies overthrowing the Government, we worry about the Republicans doing it. The Republicans are hell-bent on turning the Government into a corporatocracy and an aristocracy and maintaining a trickle-up economy. They are using trying to use a divide-and-conquer strategy fueled by religious extremism. Divisive and extremist they have been indeed. But I don't think they will prevail. With party members such as Boehner, Bachman, Blackburn, Palin, King, Rubio, Paul, Cruz, McConnell, Graham, and others leading the assault, their tactics are ultimately self-destructive.

  •  South Carolina Politicians (1+ / 0-)
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    rabrock

    I cringe at the fact that we have to drive through South Carolina on the way to Florida. The whole rebel flag thing and the states rights thing and secession talk, and on and on.  Are there any normal, progressive and frankly, not crazy pols in the state?  We are splitting farther apart and the split seems to begin in South Carolina.

  •  another ignorant asshole from SC....... (2+ / 0-)
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    Maggiemad, rabrock

    Ok miserable wingnut as whole, let's talk about the economy, jobs and healthcare: significant progress on all fronts.....what's your problem assholes malarkey?

  •  Okay, Mulvaney, put your money where your (0+ / 0-)

    mouth is.

    They would love to be able to talk about impeachment and immigration between now and the November elections. Instead of talking about jobs, and the economy, and health care.
    Okay, let's talk about jobs. Let's talk about the economy. And let's talk about health care. (Just don't try to repeat the ACA.)
  •  The Mick Mulvaney Impeachment Fallacy (1+ / 0-)
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    rabrock

    Let's consider the logic of Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC), a charter member of the Tea party caucus.  He rejects impeachment of the President as counterproductive to Republican hopes for the 2014 election.  His theory says impeachment would distract voters from issues that favor the election and re-election of Republicans on November 4th.  The issues that favor Republicans are said to be, "jobs, the economy and health care".

    Mulvaney basis his theory on two premises:  (1) Jobs, the economy and health care are in need of improvement, and (2) Republicans had nothing to do with destruction of the economy or the subsequent recession.  Never mind the previous Republican administration or the continuing efforts of Republicans to undermine jobs, the economy and repeal the Health Care Act. Understandably, Mulvaney hopes voters will fail to notice his 2nd premise.

    Mulvaney is a student of the Michele Bachmann School of Economics.  He's right about the potential direction of the economy.  It has nowhere to go but up. But a dialogue about jobs, the economy and health care will do nothing for the GOP.  It was Republican obstruction and trickle-down economics that made jobs, economic growth and health care an issue in the first place.  Mulvaney's 2nd premise is open for discussion.  Let the dialogue begin!

  •  I guess what democrats want to talk about (1+ / 0-)
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    rabrock

    are what kinds of things might be voted on in the next congress. That is a completely legitimate thing for a political party to be concerned with. Since the GOP has telegraphed that they need a majority in both Houses in order to make impeachment/conviction possible then that is something that will be voted upon in the next session.

    So for voters like myself who don't want to see another unjustified impeachment circus, we have every legitimate right to insist that candidates identify themselves as pro-impeachment or against. I wouldn't vote for anyone who would waste more time and money on using the strongest tools of govt (reserved for dire emergency) as a legislative option.

  •  Another ... (0+ / 0-)

    ... conspiracy theory being spun by the propaganda, disinformation specialists who start most of them.

  •  Chasing One's Tail (1+ / 0-)
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    rabrock

    "The only people who want impeachment more than the right wing of the Republican Party is the entire Democratic Party."  Is he criticizing the Republican Right Wing for acting like Democrats or for yelling for impeachment without an impeachable offense or just commenting on the strangeness of Republican politics?  The Democrats would not be talking about impeachment if the Republicans had not threatened it for a long time and then decided to go for impeachment lite- suing the President for not doing something they didn't want him to do in the first place.  It used to be that the a scorecard was needed to tell who the players are but this reasoning is so convoluted not even Goggle Maps could find a conclusion.

  •  I don't understand why they just don't do it...... (0+ / 0-)

    I don't understand why they just don't do it.....since O is clearly "asking for it". They really do need to put up or shut up about impeachment.

  •  I like the line... (0+ / 0-)

    "They are desperate to change the dialogue", specifically "to" impeachment and immigration.

    Despite the fact that all the major Republican nitwits seem to be able to talk about are impeaching Obama and the "problems" with immigration in relations to thousands of displaced refugees, children fleeing horrible conditions, etc.

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