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  • 'Show me' Missouri racism, by Denise Oliver Velez
  • Wrong side of heaven, by Mark E Andersen
  • Ferguson, Clive Bundy, and the Second Amendment, by Dante Atkins
  • Hillary Clinton can only win with the Obama coalition, by Egberto Willies
  • Clues for navigating the alphabet soup of health insurance, by Joan McCarter
  • Dear Hillary: 'Don't do stupid stuff' would've kept us out of Iraq and Vietnam. Pretty smart, no, by Ian Reifowitz
  • Obama is right, Clinton wrong, on foreign policy, by Armando
  • I think I felt the wind change..., by Mark Sumner

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  •  All sorts of media hysteria about Nixon (1+ / 0-)
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    declaring curfew and state of emergency in Ferguson.  Damn local cops and their smear video.  Hope they're happy.

    A drowning man can not learn to swim. -- Chris Lonsdale

    by Rikon Snow on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 03:05:24 PM PDT

    •  BBC has photos of semi-auto carrying (1+ / 0-)
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      store owners . . .

      what could possibly go wrong?

      A drowning man can not learn to swim. -- Chris Lonsdale

      by Rikon Snow on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 03:07:10 PM PDT

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      •  there is unfortunately an editorial framing here (1+ / 0-)
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        Rikon Snow

        Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

        by annieli on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 07:04:14 PM PDT

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        •  more interesting: BBC claiming a "Libertarian (0+ / 0-)

          Moment" represented by Ferguson

          One of the leading figures in today's libertarian movement, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, offers his take in an opinion piece for Time magazine on Thursday afternoon:

          "When you couple this militarisation of law enforcement with an erosion of civil liberties and due process that allows the police to become judge and jury - national security letters, no-knock searches, broad general warrants, pre-conviction forfeiture - we begin to have a very serious problem on our hands…

          "Americans must never sacrifice their liberty for an illusive and dangerous, or false, security. This has been a cause I have championed for years, and one that is at a near-crisis point in our country."

          Reason magazine's Ed Krayewski builds on this theme of a militarised police force as the spear-point of an intrusive government, causing more harm than good:

          "What's happening in Ferguson certainly looks like a counter-insurgency," he writes. "If cops keep it up long enough, some residents might respond with an insurgency. Around the world, insurgencies are fueled by unemployed young men with few prospects. It's the way things like this tend to work, actions and reactions, supply meeting demand, in this case residents filling roles cops seem to be waiting to have filled."

          He continues by noting that much of the criticism of law enforcement abuses are instigated by laws that intrude on individual rights.

          "Whether they look like it or not, cops will be an occupying force seeking compliance from local residents on behalf of democratically elected central authorities," he writes.

          Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

          by annieli on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 07:13:12 PM PDT

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  •  How many eye witnesses to murder (5+ / 0-)

    does Ferguson PD need before making an arrest?

    "It is easier to fool people, than to convince them they've been fooled" - Mark Twain

    by Sarge in Seattle on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 03:08:03 PM PDT

  •  Ferguson, MO (5+ / 0-)

    is fucked up.  Everything is fucked up except Officer Johnson, most of the citizens, the dead child and the law of this country that is still on life support.  

    There's not a white person I know who doesn't think this situation is fucked up.  I don't talk to assholes.  I'm really pissed.  And I am a white person with no kids and live in a blue state.  

    I gave Gov. Nixon some slack -- not now.  This is fucked up.

    Apologies for my fucked up language but I'm livid.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 03:15:33 PM PDT

  •  Gov. Perry indited ... (9+ / 0-)

    Somewhere Molly Ivins is laughing.

    "Next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please pay attention." Molly Ivins
  •  Why does the NY Times send a news alert (1+ / 0-)
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    that rick perry claims his indictment is politically motivated? Sort of like an alert that shit stinks.

  •  Clinton and Obama are helping each other (1+ / 0-)
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    Dear Hillary: 'Don't do stupid stuff' would've kept us out of Iraq and Vietnam. Pretty smart, no, by Ian Reifowitz

    Obama is right, Clinton wrong, on foreign policy, by Armando

    Only Hillary Clinton could make the left defend Obama's foreign policy.  The right hates him no matter what, and by going after the President from the right, leftists who'd normally go after him from the left end up defending him against Hillary. It also, by contracts, makes his foreign policy more appealing to the left vs. Hillary.

    Meanwhile, being to the right of Obama gives Clinton cred in the General election with moderates and persuadable Republicans. Since she probably assumes, perhaps not incorrectly, that she has the Dem primary locked up and won't have to run to the left on much of anything.

    I frankly don't think there's any love lost between the Clintons and Obamas, and this may not be any kind of deliberate strategy, it's probably not in fact. I take Hillary's criticisms at face value. But IMO all of this is not hurting either of them much at the moment.

    If Hillary has a serious primary challenger, all bets are off.

    Dammit Jim, I'm a lawyer, not a grammarian. So sue me.

    by Pi Li on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 03:46:30 PM PDT

    •  I don't think she'll run if a serious challenger (2+ / 0-)
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      looms up:  she had enough of that in 2008.  Hillary's on if she has an unobstructed path to the nomination--altho I'm not entirely convinced even then.  The thing is, once she takes herself to the bleachers, she loses all her mojo so it's smart to keep the possibility in play.

      If you don't have a seat at the table, you're probably on the menu.

      by CarolinNJ on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 04:13:58 PM PDT

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      •  Agree. She thinks she's owed (1+ / 0-)
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        a coronation. Don't think she like a real primary.

      •  I hope you are right and Biden, O'Malley and (0+ / 0-)

        Warren hop in and convince her not to run. I think she runs unless Warren runs. She can't take a chance on having the women's vote split.

        Sinbad on dodging sniper fire in Bosnia - "What kind of president would say, 'Hey, man, I can't go 'cause I might get shot so I'm going to send my wife...oh, and take a guitar player and a comedian with you.'"

        by askew on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 08:14:52 PM PDT

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        •  After his 2008 betrayal, Biden has no cred with (0+ / 0-)

          Hillary.  She might be polite, but she won't believe a word he says.  And, really, after he hopped over to obama for the vice presidency, why should she?

          Biden, btw, has been scorched, and properly so imo, at nakedcapitalism:  Whatever you think of Biden, at this point he's very old news, and Hunter Biden's appointment to the board of Ukrainian gas firm Burisma ought to give any 99 percenter considerable pause.  I remember when Biden was an agonizingly long winded senator from DE and people referred to him as the senator from MBNA.  Biden is marinated in political perks and privileges.

          If you don't have a seat at the table, you're probably on the menu.

          by CarolinNJ on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 08:36:46 PM PDT

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    •  Yeah, politically, I see little downside to (1+ / 0-)
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      her remarks, because she doesnt have a serious primary challenger.

      If Obama's foreign policy rating improves over the next two years, Clinton will benefit from that too, because good news for a Dem incumbent president is usually good news for the person who wants to succeed them.

      The problems might start to occur after Clinton is elected, and she has to put some substance and action to the nice, tough, vague sounding campaign rhetoric.

  •  Good afternoon: (1+ / 0-)
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    Rikon Snow

    Today's diary:  Transmormon

  •  NYPD manage to arrest subway slasher (0+ / 0-)

    instead of killing him by chokehold. Imagine that.

    Drunk Man Accused of Stabbing Three in Grand Central

    "It strikes me as gruesome and comical that in our culture we have an expectation that a man can always solve his problems" - Kurt Vonnegut

    by jazzence on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 03:57:23 PM PDT

  •  What happened in Ferguson? (0+ / 0-)

    Ah, let me guess.



  •  Another cop killing a young man in Utah. (1+ / 0-)
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    There are just too many violent cops in this country.

    Cops gun down headphones-wearing Utah man because he wouldn’t comply with orders
    By Travis Gettys
    Friday, August 15, 2014 7:44 EDT

    Three officers said they ordered Taylor to reveal his hands, but they said he ignored their commands and was “visibly upset.”

    Taylor was then shot by police and was pronounced dead at the scene.

    His brother said Taylor was wearing headphones and did not hear the officers until they surrounded him.

    More here…

    I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

    by KayCeSF on Sat Aug 16, 2014 at 05:27:21 PM PDT

  •  Hillary says 'stupid stuff' (0+ / 0-)

    She could have articulated her foreign policy without taking a cheap shot at the President.  Someone (I hope) advised her, and she went for it like a hungry trout.   Doesn't she even know stupid when she sees it?  She instantly became the laughingstock of just about every media outlet.  President? I don't think so.  

    Planning a vacation or convention in Arizona? Come to Palm Springs instead! Same desert weather, none of the smog, traffic and bigotry.

    by grey skies turning to blue on Sun Aug 17, 2014 at 03:26:00 AM PDT

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