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Notice what's wrong with this lede from the AP's Donna Cassata?
President Barack Obama's unpopular health care law is losing some of its political punch as vulnerable Democrats see it as less of an election-year minus and Republicans increasingly talk about fixing it instead of repealing.
To be fair to Cassata, the rest of the article is actually pretty informative, but what's happening here isn't just that Democrats are seeing Obamacare as "less of an election-year minus"—it's that now that Obamacare is delivering tangible results, Democrats are seeing it as an election-year plus. As one of Cassata's sources says:
"Democrats like this bill," [Harvard School of Public Health public opinion analysts Robert] Blendon said. "There's a big mistake that nobody likes this bill. They really like it lot and there are features of it that are incredibly popular with Democrats or more moderate independents."
That's why we're seeing Sen. Mark Pryor run an ad in Arkansas touting the bill's ban on denying coverage due to preexisting conditions, and that's why we're seeing Kentucky Democratic Senate nominee Alison Lundergan Grimes go after Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell for wanting to toss repeal coverage for hundreds of thousands of Kentuckians.

It's been a long time coming, but now the election less than three months away, health care reform is no longer an issue for Democrats to neutralize—it's something are turning into an advantage. When Obamacare was nothing more than a bunch of pieces of paper, it served as an easy proxy for Republicans to accuse Democrats in red states of being rubber-stamps for President Obama, but now that it's delivering tangible benefits, the tables are turned. GOP attacks which once resonated can be countered with the reality of what the Affordable Care Act is delivering—and what it would mean if Republicans got what they wanted and took it all away. That's much more than Obamacare becoming less of a minus—that's Obamacare becoming an asset.

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  •  Notice what's wrong with this lede (14+ / 0-)
    President Barack Obama's unpopular health care law
    First of all, it's certainly not unpopular with the 10 million or so who have health insurance who didn't have it before. It's not unpopular with Democrats. It's not unpopular with small business owners who have seen their rates go down.

    What's wrong with the lede is that it sets up an assumption that is questionable at best and prejudicial and downright wrong at worst.

    Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

    by milkbone on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 10:11:58 AM PDT

  •  Somebody e-mail Coulter (4+ / 0-)

    Her stump speech is "Alll GOP hate Obamacare"

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 10:22:24 AM PDT

  •  Treating it as an asset helps make it an asset. (5+ / 0-)
  •  In the run-up to the mid-terms... (4+ / 0-)

    while they are scampering to save face, Republicans are going to have to eat about $50 million worth of humble pie.

    "These 'Yet To Be' United States" --James Baldwin-- -6.75, -5.78

    by kevinbr38 on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 10:24:02 AM PDT

  •  unpopular...with some. (8+ / 0-)

    it's disappointing to see her pre-bias readers with "President Obama's unpopular health care law".  

    i could accept "controversial" or something similarly ambiguous, but there are a lot of people for whom it is not unpopular... people like me, who were able to get much better health coverage at a much lower cost than i was able to get before.

    it may be unpopular with some (and all the surveys i've seen give extremely divergent results depending on how the questions are worded), but it's a life-saver for others.

  •  Those of us who were paying attention (7+ / 0-)

    to reality instead of to moronic beltway pundits who were unable to look beyond tomorrow's headlines, we knew this months ago.

    This, I believe, is one of the key reasons Obama timed the benefits to come in this year.

  •  Emergency Room (9+ / 0-)

    are reporting marked decrease in number of primary care patients in Los Angeles.

    We've been spelling it wrong all these years. It's actually: PRO-GOP-ANDA

    by Patriot4peace on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 10:27:34 AM PDT

    •  Now The Hospitals (0+ / 0-)

      Will have the lead weight of providing charity medical care lifted. Their profits will soar & hopefully they will expand to meet the new fully insured American People. If they get greedy we can just regulate them too.

  •  NC ad against Hagan....'Hagan voted for Obamacare' (3+ / 0-)
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    Mr MadAsHell, mznikki2u74, derridog

    yep.....Tillis is a little slow getting out of the gate.

  •  too bad ACA doesn't cover reporter myopia (7+ / 0-)

    reporters can't get over their gullibility of accepting the right wing media's distortion of Obamacare

  •  Why did we ever fight for a public option? (1+ / 0-)
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    Turns out a public option is completely unnecessary.  Healthcare reform is just fine without it.   What an utter waste of time and energy it was for us liberals to fight to get a public option into the legislation.   We're such idiots.  We should have known right from the start that nationalized Romneycare would be awesome.

    I'd like to apologize to everyone who told me the public option was unimportant.  I called you sellouts, but you were right, and I was wrong.   Market-based for-profit insurance really is the fundamental reform that liberals have yearned for, and I'm such a jerk for not figuring that out sooner.

    Please forgive me.

    •  Liberals can acknowledge that the law (7+ / 0-)

      is having tangible, positive results, while also acknowledging it would be better with a public option.

      •  Liberals CAN'T acknowledge that any movement for (3+ / 0-)

        real reform is 100% dead because the whole Left is now emotionally invested in cheering for a corporatist for-profit "reform" that liberals once hated.   It'll be at least 20 years before we get another crack at it, when a younger generation of liberal voters grows up and realizes their parents sold out and wasted a golden opportunity.

    •   A public option is going to eventually take (4+ / 0-)

      over the private company-based healthcare that we have now.  It will occur on a state-by-state basis, with Vermont leading the pack.  When you realize that 26 or so states so loathe the President that they refuse even to expand Medicaid--at no cost to them--and would rather see their constituents die unnecessarily and their hospitals close rather than give Obama a win, then perhaps you can see that what we got was probably a better start than nothing.  With "Democrats" on our side at the time like Max Baucus and Lieberman, we're fortunate that the needs of the public won out at all.
      If you can step back from your sarcasm just long enough to look around you, you'll see that people who had nothing now have something.  Our friend, a self-employed photographer, recently had hip surgery and can walk again.  He hadn't been to a doctor for anything in 15 years because he couldn't afford it.  For him, no public option wasn't a deal-breaker.

      "It ain't right, Atticus," said Jem. "No, son, it ain't right." --Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird

      by SottoVoce on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 10:49:29 AM PDT

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      •  Many conservative Dems in the House (4+ / 0-)

        The problem with getting health care reform wasnt just Nelson and Lieberman, but also a lot of conservative House Dems who didnt support health care reform or only did so in a very superficial way.

      •  The public option is as dead as the Confederacy. (1+ / 0-)
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        The Democratic Party base likes the ACA as is.  Demand for reform has faded to a shadow of what it was in 2008, and that's the greatest triumph of the ACA for the healthcare corporations.  They've squashed any threat to their business model for the next 20 years, and they did it by changing liberals from enemies into allies.

      •  nonsense (5+ / 0-)

        we've had a limited single-payer system for fifty years, it's called Medicare. Despite its limitations and a half-century of conservative attacks, it's proved consistently effective and popular. It's more popular than the ACA is ever likely to be.

        Did that result in a slow expansion of Medicare until it covered more and more people? No--it's been continually under attack by the 1%, who have steadily chipped away at it with stealth privatizations like Medicare Advantage. Expanding Medicare was not even on the table in this latest round of health care reform--it was dismissed as impractical by the president. And this was the best chance to fix health care that we'll have in decades, absent a major economic crisis.

        The provision of health care in America is fundamentally a problem for the federal government, not for the states. The federal government has the power of the printing press, and can realize much larger economies of scale by creating one unified national system to ensure access to health care.

        Suggesting that the states can step in and fill the gap is nothing more than a tacit admission that the neo-Confederacy (i.e., movement conservatism) is right: the federal government cannot tie its shoelaces, let alone provide health care, and so it's better that we drown in it a bathtub, to use Grover Norquist's phrase.

        "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

        by limpidglass on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 11:25:56 AM PDT

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      •  Vermont ALWAYS leads the pack nt (2+ / 0-)
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    •  you're forgiven (4+ / 0-)

      you're also forgiven for being an obnoxious douchebag who opposes a law that has saved untold lives and allowed millions to obtain real health insurance, all because you didn't get the pony you wanted.  
      Oh right, the evil insurance co's are in control, the ones who now have their spending limited to actual healthcare, who have to return money to customers, who can't randomly end coverage, who can't deny coverage--it's an evil corporate dystopia...with expanded Medicaid.  

      you can shit on my face but that doesn't mean I have to lick my lips

      by red rabbit on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 10:56:59 AM PDT

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    •  I love mine. (7+ / 0-)

      It is life or death being able to have coverage that no one can take away each time I lose a job because my symptoms flareup. Never again.

      Yes a PO would be even better, but I am very grateful to be alive.

      Thanks Democrats! My Obamacare is permanent coverage no one can take away - and saving $3,000 is nice too

      by sotiredofusernames on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 05:33:22 PM PDT

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    •  One Problem (0+ / 0-)

      & it is not unique to the for profit insurance business. Problem is America makes a ritual out of phoney, sham competition. Capitalism makes a Demigod out of COMPETITION but does it's best to STOMP IT OUT. Wouldn't it be nice to see real competition in auto manufacturing for example? Same as in most fields 2 or 3 big fish in obvious collusion. How about your local gas stations? Your local supermarkets? All of American business puts the fix in wherever & whenever it can. What a bunch of hypocrites. Capitalism might get more enthusiasm from me if I could see the benefits of unbridled competition instead of obvious rigging. Computers evolved so quickly at first because in that new field competition was wide open. If you remember the 90's the pace has sort of slowed down. Let's hear it for good old fashioned CAPITALIST COMPETITION. Just don't look to the Republicans for any of it.

  •  The news has not yet reached KY's Senators ... (4+ / 0-)
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    Subversiva, Fury, snazzzybird, bobcat41702

    ... who continue pressing the GOP's all-time-favorite anti-Obamacare talking point.

    Rand Paul, This Month:

    I won't rest until ObamaCare is 100% repealed.... ObamaCare is a job killing disaster.
    Mitch McConnell, This Month:
    McConnell reiterated that he's not a fan of the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare ....

    "We thought there would be ... job loss, and that has, in fact, occurred."

    Democrats should not be shy about pointing out that, in fact, just the opposite has occurred:
    Chart: After losing 3.6 million jobs in the decade before Obamacare, the private-sector has gained 9.8 million jobs since Obamacare became law.
  •  You're cart is ahead of the horse? (0+ / 0-)
    It's been a long time coming, but now the election less than three months away, health care reform is no longer an issue for Democrats to neutralize—it's something (they) are turning into an advantage.
    Please name the Dems that are " turning (it) into an advantage".

    I'd like to know.  I don't disagree.  But who are these Dems you speak of?


    "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, And the women come out to cut up what remains, Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." Rudyard Kipling

    by EdMass on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 10:41:45 AM PDT

  •  Tell that to Udall in CO! Americans for Prosper... (1+ / 0-)
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    Tell that to Udall in CO! Americans for Prosperity of the 1% and Crossroads for Rove are hitting him hard on TV. So is Cory O&G Gardner. Udall needs to own it and point out these have been debunked and roll out the numbers. He's stuck on women's' issues and climate change so it appears he's letting them win that point. It's frustrating.

  •  Obamacare caused a big scandal in Chicago recently (1+ / 0-)
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    Cubs cut grounds crew’s hours to avoid paying health benefits — sources
    Chicago Sun-Times sorts out the scandal:
    The staffing issues that hamstrung the grounds crew Tuesday during a mad dash with the tarp under a sudden rainstorm were created in part by a wide-ranging reorganization last winter of game-day personnel, job descriptions and work limits designed to keep the seasonal workers – including much of the grounds crew – under 130 hours per month, according to numerous sources with direct knowledge.
    So what's wrong with 130 hours/month? Well:
    That’s the full-time worker definition under “Obamacare,” which requires employer-provided healthcare benefits for “big businesses” such as a major league team.
    So what's the problem here? Watch and see for yourself as an understaffed-grounds crew struggles trying to rollout the tarp in conditions (and listed to the crowd yelling "PULL"!!!):

    FINALLY,  they get the tarp covering the whole field. Crowd reaction: Chants of USA!USA!USA!

    "TarpGate" at Wrigley Field!

    Long story short - Cubs called game after 4.5 innings and 4.5 hours of trying to dry out fucked up field. Unsuccessful, so they called the game with Cubs leading 2-0 and declared Cubs WINNERS! Giants file appeal with league, league agrees with Giants that Cubs FUCKED UP!!! Re-started game next day; Cubs won 2-1. Giants took nightcap. End of story!

    "I'm exhausted from all the nonsense"

    by Scottsdalian on Fri Aug 22, 2014 at 11:10:02 AM PDT

  •  Not that climate change and Women's' Health are... (0+ / 0-)

    Not that climate change and Women's' Health aren't important, Udall needs to add this dimension to his campaign.

  •  This is exactly (7+ / 0-)

    what the Republicans feared, knowing that if the ACA were given a chance to succeed, it would be effective against their months of lies.

  •  PPACA of 2010 (9+ / 0-)

    The PPACA of 2010 saved my former wife's life without costing her a penny. I will not divulge any of her private medical information, except to note that until the PPACA of 2010 became law she could not afford health insurance and thus could not obtain treatment for a life-threatening condition.  Of course, under the old regime of couldn't give a damn about anyone with a preexisting condition, my former wife would not have been able to obtain coverage even if she could afford it. However, all that changed with enactment of the PPACA of 2010, and she has now undergone the surgery necessary to save her life. All I can say is thank you President Obama for standing firm in the face of so much resistence from conservative idiots and finally getting Congress to do the right thing.

  •  Not for some Fox News viewers (6+ / 0-)

    A lot of the people where I live, low information Fox News viewers, are complaining about Obamacare based on... untruths. Supposedly, there is a 1% tax on ALL real estate transactions (pants on fire), supposedly, doctors are going through all of this survey information because of "Obamacare". That was done long before the ACA, I think, partly, to increase the "complexity" of the examination, and up-code for insurance. There are rumors that "Obamacare" does not cover cancer or diabetes. There's even a rumor that companies are firing their workers after 3 months because of "Obamacare", hiring a bunch of new ones, and telling the old ones they can only reapply after 3 months of being not employed by their company.

    The people on the ground hate "Obamacare" as much as they ever did, and keep getting more and more spun up over the situation, as many untruths and half truths as they get.

    It's all part of Obama Derangement Syndrome. (TM)

  •  Obamacare is a plus (3+ / 0-)
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    I have yet to see the Pryor ad but I haven't heard Tom Cotton screeching about Obama care any more. For a long time he was proudly talking about how many times he had voted to scrap Obamacare in the House (50 times). So now all I see are pop up ads that appeal to the base of the Republican party. Pictures of two men kissing and asking if Pryor loves Gays. The Pryor camp has lowered themselves into the gutter also and countered with one quite like that against Cotton. Both men have worked hard to appeal to the religious fanatics, both claiming to love GAWD more than the other. The only thing I havn't seen is both men firing an AR-15 on full auto to show the gun nuts how much they love guns. When it comes to matters of war and peace, Cotton would gladly get circumcised to show his love for Israel, and he is more than willing to wave the saber when his AIPAC handlers call.  

  •  Mitch McConnell is out of touch with the majori... (1+ / 0-)
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    Mitch McConnell is out of touch with the majority. Unfortunately the minority he represents can be counted on to vote, while much of the majority can not be bothered to vote. And some democratic voters are taking about voting republican because Grimes is mostly an unknown quantity, and hence some are likening her to Palin.

  •  Wish someone would take legislators & gover... (8+ / 0-)

    Wish someone would take legislators & governors to court for reckless disregard homicide for refusing to expand medicaid.

  •  Obama Care and 2014 Elections (3+ / 0-)

    The real question is: Why has it taken them so long to figure this out?  That it did, says a lot about how clueless way too many Dems are at even fairly senior levels.

  •  Affordable Care Act aka Obamacare (3+ / 0-)
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    Sharlar, 1500honda, silverfoxcruiser

    Perhaps the opponents of the Affordable Care Act are beginning to realize what a disaster it would be just to toss the law entirely and thus wipe out health insurance coverage for their own constituents along with the rest of us.  And when can we start NOT calling it Obamacare?  The term already has tons of negative connotations.  It should be dropped.

    •  ^^^^^ what HE said times a bazillion^^^^^ (2+ / 0-)
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      iubooklover, silverfoxcruiser

      I HATE the term "Obama Care"  and refuse to use it.  

      I don't know WHY we allow it's use on any site.  This is a pejorative term and lets let those who want to show their ignprance use it.

      The REST of us should stand proud and REFUSE to let it past our lips and should tell ALL print and other media they look STUPID when THEY use it.

      Where ELSE has a slang negative term been ADOPTED by the very people who AGREE with it been used like this????

  •  I swear..... (0+ / 0-)

    KOS writers the last couple of days must have been drunk as skunks while they were doing their writing. Or elementary school kids. One of the two. I have ESL students that write and speak better English than what I've been reading today.

  •  Hasn't made (0+ / 0-)

    anything affordable for us.

  •  I am a life-long liberal,gay man,and 2 times Ob... (1+ / 0-)
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    I am a life-long liberal,gay man,and 2 times Obama voter. HOWEVER, because of Obamacare, my employer dropped all of our benefits. Now I pay $200/month MORE out of pocket for insurance my Doctor doesn't take. My one prescription cost $70 under our group plan. With my "bronze" HMO, it costs $625! (Naprelan). The job chart fails to point out the QUALITY of added jobs. Many of them are useless temp and non-living wage positions. I have not had a raise in years, so Obamacare has essentially given me a paycut. I voted for him, but the Middle Class, were not part of ACA. The kicker is that I am an Ultrasound Technologist with useless, expensive insurance...

  •  Pisses off Republicans, Yeah..! (3+ / 0-)

    Pisses off Republicans, Yeah..!

  •  Analysis of the polls show it's mostly people w... (4+ / 0-)

    Analysis of the polls show it's mostly people who already have insurance through other means who are the most negative toward Obamacare. They really don't know much about it except the constant stream of criticism from Fox and similar news outlets. I suppose you can't blame Democrats for being hesitant because the White House never had a powerful media campaign to counter the distortions of the consistent and sophisticated right-winger campaign against it. Add to that the roll out debacle, and being a little gun shy is expected. The time for that is over and embracing its success should be done by all Democrats this Fall.

    As much as I admire President Obama, he hasn't been very good at effectively selling his accomplishments, and providing a coat tail for Democrats running for reelection. I think he has allowed himself to be publicly berated and beat up for too long and the perception of his competence is way off in the mind of the public. When I see how engaging and relaxed he is at the correspondent's dinners I wonder where that side of him is hiding the rest of the time.

  •  Obamacare (3+ / 0-)

    "Obamacare" once an epithet by the right, will forever link healthcare for all to President Obama...even when the day comes (and it will come) when American citizens join the other civilized nations that already have universal, single-payer healthcare.

    That too will forever be linked to, and called, "Obamacare."

    It will never popularly be called the "Affordable Care Act," but will always be "Obamacare" and will be a term of respect, not of derision, in the history books and through the ages.

    That'll be poetic justice as just another snarky Republican attempted "dirty trick" turns into ashes in their mouths.

    Advocating for things that help the middle class, and against things that don't.

    by BaldEagle on Sat Aug 23, 2014 at 04:06:12 PM PDT

  •  Bumper sticker in swing states; Save my social ... (5+ / 0-)

    Bumper sticker in swing states;

    Save my social security and Obamacare

    •  That is a fine one, oniel! (0+ / 0-)

      May it happen just as you suggest!

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      "The opposite of war isn't peace, it's CREATION." _ Jonathan Larson, RENT -9.62, -9.13

      by BeninSC on Sat Aug 23, 2014 at 06:26:50 PM PDT

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    •  There is SUCH--- (2+ / 0-)
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      There is SUCH a negative opinion on the ACA---and I agree mostly from people who have no real need of it being covered by other forms of insurance.

      However--what they FAIL utterly to SEE is that ANY one of us might at a moments notice NEED this kind of care.

      But they will cry and cry that the "Health Care"  industry or "For Profit Insurance"  is THE evil one when they have big out of pockets etc to pay.

      While I in no way disagree that both of those systems are corrupt and uncaring---

      People who COULD benefit are NOT taking advantage BECAUSE of this RW hate speech drummed into their heads all day long.  

      They will lose their house;  they will never see their doctor again;  they will have to turn over EVERYTHING to--some one.  


      I DO agree too that MOST employers would PREFER that THEY don't have to cover ANYONE EVER.    And why SHOULD they?  WHY should health care be dependent on your JOB?  

      Both my husbands employer and my sons have moved to a NO FULL TIMER position on as many jobs as they can.  They want you available on a moments notice 24/7 but then when you get TO the job they turn around after a few short hours and send you home.  Thus making it IMPOSSIBLE for actual FULL TIME EMPLOYMENT.

      They are also now FIRING or ELIMINATING whole job categories and then  offering to REHIRE at lower rates of pay and benefits and time served.    Disgusting.  And these are counted as JOB GAINS!!!!!

      This should have been addressed in the Act and companies SHOULD be made to have x-number of FULL TIME EMPLOYEES before they are allowed to hire over y-percent of PART TIMERS.

      There.  I fixed it.

      •  That said---- (0+ / 0-)

        That said have a serious question on the ACA provisions---

        IF you have an employer sponsored health care plan AND had the old "Lapse"  of health insurance due to a fired employee and lack of affordable insurance---are you subject to the "Pre-Existing Condition"  or "LApse in coverage"  now?

        ie employee with wife and kids is fired and is hired by another company right away--but the NEW co's insurance only grants coverage after "x" number of days.  So now after several months of HAVING insurance you go see an MD for a serious but not ER worthy reason and then get Nasty Grams about possible "pre-existing"  and "lapse in coverage"  issues.

        Seriously would like to know more on this before Monday when we start making calls!  

        PS non of this is ACA health care policies---all was thru employer paid insurance coverage

        And in NY even when UNEMPLOYED with NO assets NO homeownership ON SNAP and with two small kids--the ACA bills  would have been HUGE.  Hundreds of dollars a month.  NO Medicaid etc kicked in.  Even tho they HAD MEDICAID when the person HAD been working!!!!!

        How can this BE???

    •  Sadly (0+ / 0-)

      People should be careful about liberal cause bumper stickers. Honest opposition tends to surface thru VANDALISM. Typical Brown Shirt/ SS tactics but of course the Teapublicans aren't Fascists then are they?

  •  Republican's If that's the message you want to (4+ / 0-)

    send when you say Obamacare sucks, remember that it was created by the Heritage Foundation.

    When you say Obamacare sucks, remember that it was pushed for by Newt Gingrich in the '90's. Individual Mandate Chuck Grassley

    When you say Obamacare sucks, remember that it was implemented at the state level by Mitt Romney. Who also wanted it to be implemented nationally. And who you then nominated to challenge President Obama just last year.

    In other words, it was YOUR PLAN. If you should be angry about anything, it should be that President Obama and the Democrats stole credit for your idea.

    When you say that Obamacare sucks, you're saying that your plans suck. You're saying that Republicans have terrible, horrible, disastrous ideas which should never be put into effect.

    What you're saying, Republicans, is that shutting down the U.S. Federal Government is less damaging to America than enacting your ideas.

    What you're saying, Republicans, is that destroying the U.S. economy and pushing the world into a global depression is less damaging to humanity than enacting your ideas.

    If that's the message you want to keep sending, by all means...please proceed.

  •  Obama Care (0+ / 0-)

    I don't always listen to thing on the media sometimes they go in  one ear and out the other.
    However that if you cannot get health insurance or afford it at all stuck with me with regards to Obama Care.
    They'd said that over and over as that is what it was originally meant for people who normally had no hope of health insurance.
    As for being Democratic or Republican I am not either.
    What makes sense at the time sways me either way
    realizing of coarse that you cannot necessarily trust well unfortunately anyone perhaps.
    If you look at the idea  that we should be able to vote on every bill that they try to pass That doing something like that is our system and actually not Socialized form of government at all really. So why not do that when it's within probability without much controversy from the general public perhaps?

  •  I believe you mean... (1+ / 0-)
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    The Tables are Turning Toward Obamacare.

    "An egg is not poultry.” An old Blues tune's brilliant insight into the notion that a zygote can, in any sense, be "a person."

    by carbonman1950 on Sat Aug 23, 2014 at 05:18:54 PM PDT

  •  Republican's (0+ / 0-)

    When you say Obamacare sucks, remember that it was created by the Heritage Foundation.

    When you say Obamacare sucks, remember that it was pushed for by Newt Gingrich in the '90's. Individual Mandate Chuck Grassley

    When you say Obamacare sucks, remember that it was implemented at the state level by Mitt Romney. Who also wanted it to be implemented nationally. And who you then nominated to challenge President Obama just last year.

    In other words, it was YOUR PLAN. If you should be angry about anything, it should be that President Obama and the Democrats stole credit for your idea.

    When you say that Obamacare sucks, you're saying that your plans suck. You're saying that Republicans have terrible, horrible, disastrous ideas which should never be put into effect.

    What you're saying, Republicans, is that shutting down the U.S. Federal Government is less damaging to America than enacting your ideas.

    What you're saying, Republicans, is that destroying the U.S. economy and pushing the world into a global depression is less damaging to humanity than enacting your ideas.

    If that's the message you want to keep sending, by all means...please proceed.

  •  TAKE IT AWAY? WTF???? (3+ / 0-)

    The fucking Republicans would steal the candy from a laughing baby's mouth, those heartless bastards!

  •  It's about time (0+ / 0-)

    As neither Obama nor the corporate owned press have really pushed Obama's many true successes..the Democrats running should push this ACA Historic Bill that the GOP couldn't pass on their own. This Congress also failed to replace it with anything to improve it.  Rather they fought to kill it, wasting 50+ votes and millions of our tax dollars fighting it, they lied from the start and even now the GOP lie still about it's value and life savings benefits.
    Smart Democrats should use this and push it in the GOP's face. The GOP would go back to the Insurance Industries legalized death panels which denied and delayed care to policyholders in the past, in a NY minute if they could.
    We did it !!  People LIVE because of the ACA.  Democrats running would make a huge mistake if they didn't support this popular health care reform now approved of by almost 70% of the sane public.  It also proves Democrats care..(even if a few fools folded and agreed to water it down from the Public Option we all hoped for)..Those Democrats are the ones we should have weeded out by now, the"DINO" who don't help anyone but themselves in red states...there are weak Democrats among us who should still go. With all the GOP failed and, or, refused to do...we should win on facts and truth in helping people, spite of obstructions, and lies by this insane GOP.

  •  Give the Republicans something to bellyache about (0+ / 0-)

    Give Americans single payer health care, like the rest of the industrialized world has. (instead of giving subsides, and tax breaks to multinational corporations, and tax incentives for them to move their manufacturing overseas).

  •  Democrats used to have... (0+ / 0-)

    Cajones. Now the party is quaking in their boots for fear of losing their political seats. Since that has...for the most part become the case...term limits are the only answer. Both parties would know that they must make the best of their term and not be beholding to the corporate sleaze.

  •  Obamacare Reduced Insurance Bill from $890 to $450 (0+ / 0-)

    Those who oppose President Obama on every issue are the foes of our nation.

    This President saved the country. Nearly all his domestic agendas have resulted in fruits. In foreign policy he is striving to avoid the mistakes of his first term. Mrs. Clinton, a hawk, misled him and opposed the promises the President made to our nation.

    The hawks such as Senator John McClain and his clones who appears as Democrats created the current turmoil in the world. The two cited "politicians" are the slaves of Wall Street and warmongers desiring our country to be at war with one country after another. They both wanted to be President!

    This is what most American know. Mrs. Clinton is indeed worse than Senator McCain as she comes with a mask of a Democrat.

    The only Senator that must become President in 2016 is Senator Warren.

    What must Mrs. Clinton do? Well, she can continue speaking for Wall Street earning $200,000 for one hour of effectively saying nothing. She does not even care about the 6 million hungry children who go to bed each night without having a decent meal.

    As to Obamacare: My 42-year old daughter has chronic Lyme decease since her 12th birthday. Her BC/BS bill was $890/m. With Obamacare we pay $450/m.

    Brava, Mr. President!

  •  I know five people who took (0+ / 0-)

    the "ObamaCare" option.  

    Two people had had their medical coverage cancelled by their employer because their employers "couldn't afford it."  Those two went without insurance from 1998 and 1999, respectively.  Both had racked up medical bills with one paying on the bills and getting a foreclosure on her house and the other selling most of his personal goods and his car and getting an oil-burner in its stead.

    Two never had insurance and the fifth had a "catastrophic" medical care policy which was expensive and which she couldn't use.

    All of them are delighted with the ACA and have been seeing doctors that they had no hope of seeing unless their problems would drive them to going to Medicaid.

    Unfortunately these people, like many/most in their circumstances are not political people and don't get their stories out.

  •  GOOD! (0+ / 0-)

    be proud, Democrats.

    An ambulance can only go so fast - Neil Young

    by mightymouse on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 05:16:26 AM PDT

  •  That's why the Republicans want so badly to rep... (0+ / 0-)

    That's why the Republicans want so badly to repeal it. The basic concept came from their own Heritage Foundation.

  •  Reading this fine diary. . . (0+ / 0-)

    . . . prompted me to create my own, which details my wife's recent newspaper article praising the ACA from the perspective of a North Georgia healthcare provider:

  •  Ledes like this (0+ / 0-)

    should automatically confer hack status on the writer.  I've seen propaganda that was more subtle.

    President Barack Obama's unpopular health care law is losing some of its political punch as vulnerable Democrats see it as less of an election-year minus and Republicans increasingly talk about fixing it instead of repealing.

    People of small caliber like to sit on high horses - Magdalena Samozwaniec

    by penelope pnortney on Sun Aug 24, 2014 at 06:41:48 AM PDT

  •  Obamacare is the biggest and most deviously (0+ / 0-)

    disguised piece of pro-corporate-welfare crap that has ever been passed over on a misled and misinformed public. It has turned American politics on its head and force-ably privatized our public health coverage policy...which is completely (both morally and fiscally) insane. What we need is what Democrats took "off the table": to expand and improve traditional "Medicare for All". We need to start by adding the president, congress, all gov't employees and their families (thereby adding a younger healthier group to save the program for generations to come), then allow anyone else to join without discrimination. If we did this we could cover everyone far more reliably and comprehensively from cradle to grave plus save at least a trillion dollars every year. President Obama should have at least tried to explain this in public to our people. His silence from his bully pulpit was (still is) deafening. We must not allow ourselves to be misled by this bass-ackwards, formerly Republican scam.

  •  Grimes supports Kynect?? (0+ / 0-)

    Please show me an article ANYWHERE that reports that Alison Lundergan Grimes has discussed Kynect, i.e. Obamacare, much less attacked Mitch McConnell regarding the issue of repealing it. I live in Kentucky and she's not doing it.

  •  Perhaps... (0+ / 0-)

    If the Democratic candidates referred to this law by its ACTUAL title, the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act," they'd be more successful in using President Obama's landmark health care legislation as a positive campaign tool. We should all know by now that if you add or connote his name with just about ANYTHING, it will be viewed as a negative. "OBAMA-Care". Get it? Merely referring to the law by its now-familiar nickname is a buzz-kill among most Republicans and Independents, and in some cases, even Democrats.

    If Congress passed new legislation and named it "OBAMA-Shits-Golden-Eggs," it would STILL be seen as a bad law just by virtue of attaching the President's name to it.

  •  I don't know; (0+ / 0-)

    I'm in a red state, and health care is just as unaffordable as ever, if not even more so. But I blame Heritage, not Obama, and I'm certainly not punishing Democrats over it. Not that anyone gives Democrats in my state a ghost of a chance, but still...

    "Elect Republicans, and they will burn the place down. And they will laugh while they do it and have a great time. And then what?" -- Rachel Maddow

    by LumineHall on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 02:34:19 AM PDT

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