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Charles M. Blow at The New York Times laments the slaying of Michael Brown and other children in A Funeral in Ferguson:

Two weeks after the killing of Michael Brown, we have become painfully familiar with his parents through their public appearances and television interviews, their faces drawn, their sorrow apparent. [...]

A 2008 study published in The Journal of Family Psychology found that, understandably, the death of a child can have “long-term effects on the lives of parents,” including “more depressive symptoms, poorer well-being, and more health problems.” Even that, to me, feels like an understatement. I am always in awe at the strength displayed by parents who lose a child and are immediately thrust into the public eye because their children cease to simply be children but graduate into being a cause.

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Yet, too many people have had to endure a similar grief, if often under different circumstances. According to ChildDeathReview.org, in 2010, 45,068 children ages 0 to 19 died in the United States. Two-thirds died of natural causes. Another 8,684 died of unintentional injuries like car accidents and drowning. But 2,808 died as result of homicide, including 1,790 by firearm.

Paul Krugman at The New York Times writes Wrong Way Nation:
But why are housing prices in New York or California so high? Population density and geography are part of the answer. For example, Los Angeles, which pioneered the kind of sprawl now epitomized by Atlanta, has run out of room and become a surprisingly dense metropolis. However, as Harvard’s Edward Glaeser and others have emphasized, high housing prices in slow-growing states also owe a lot to policies that sharply limit construction. Limits on building height in the cities, zoning that blocks denser development in the suburbs and other policies constrict housing on both coasts; meanwhile, looser regulation in the South has kept the supply of housing elastic and the cost of living low.

So conservative complaints about excess regulation and intrusive government aren’t entirely wrong, but the secret of Sunbelt growth isn’t being nice to corporations and the 1 percent; it’s not getting in the way of middle- and working-class housing supply.

And this, in turn, means that the growth of the Sunbelt isn’t the kind of success story conservatives would have us believe. Yes, Americans are moving to places like Texas, but, in a fundamental sense, they’re moving the wrong way, leaving local economies where their productivity is high for destinations where it’s lower. And the way to make the country richer is to encourage them to move back, by making housing in dense, high-wage metropolitan areas more affordable.

So Rick Perry doesn’t know the secrets of job creation, or even of regional growth. It would be great to see the real key—affordable housing—become a national issue. But I don’t think Democrats are willing to nominate Mayor Bill de Blasio for president just yet.

More pundit excerpts can be found beneath the orange tangle.

Jessica Valenti at The Guardian writes We have more than just a campus rape problem. There is invisible rape all over:

As the school year starts up again this month, so will university orientations with ramped-up trainings on sexual assault prevention – followed, I’m sure, by a semester of underreported attacks, inevitable administrative mishandlings and student-led lawsuits. Thanks to the increased American focus on campus rapes by activists, the media and even the White House, people will undoubtedly be paying attention this school year. And I’m glad for that.

But I hope that, as we shake our heads in shame and frustration over student assaults, we don’t forget the scourge of rape that has infiltrated every corner of our country – not just the places that house college campuses. [...]

I do understand why the national conversation about rape is so focused on campus assaults. And it’s certainly not as if the campus rape problem is going away – college administrations are still failing survivors, and victim-blaming still abounds. But part of the reason the issue of student sexual assault has captured our attention—in addition to the tireless work by young activists—is that we see these victims as more deserving of sympathy, and because they more closely resemble the people in the media who are making editorial decisions, and their friends and family.

While the leaders of ISIS, or the Islamic State, may want to want an 11th Century social world, that doesn't mean they don't have a thoroughly 21st understanding of social media. Robert Fisk at The Independent writes Isis's undoubted skill in exploiting social media is no reason for US leaders to start talking about an imminent apocalypse:
It was their ability to produce such a chilling videotape of James Foley’s beheading—but one which was also quite slickly made in its perverse way—that prompted the infantile outbursts (‘apocalyptic’/’end-of-days’) from America’s defence secretary and top soldier last week. These jihadi guys, they seem to have been saying, not only slaughtered Westerners—they knew how to use technology.

James Foley’s kidnappers, for example, searched through his laptop in a way no Taliban would have dreamed of 20 years ago. And that was where they found out that his brother was in the US air force. Foley, according to his friends who were later released, tried to make light of the beatings he then received. His treatment grew worse once his computer memory had been opened. That is what the foreign jihadis have added to this latest Middle East war, a profound understanding of a science which we hitherto thought – in some unenlightened, blimp-like way – belonged to us. We still have not reflected deeply enough about the internet in this context. In a world in which the most ferocious verbal attacks—poison pen letters gone made—can be made on politicians, journalists, even NGOs, is it surprising that the same science of power without responsibility has provided al-Baghdadi and his lads with their most potent weapon, an armament which can be used against us but also a science which they can share.

Steve Almond at the Los Angeles Times writes Boycotting the football industrial complex:
few years ago, I began to feel guilty about watching football. What started it were the revelations about brain damage we now know the game caused in many retired players. But there was plenty more—the cynical commercialization of the sport, its cultish celebration of violence and the more subtle ways in which football warps our societal attitudes about race, gender and sexual orientation.

The more I pondered it, the more I came to the conclusion that fans ultimately built our massive football industrial complex, and that means fans—people like me—are ultimately responsible for its corruptions. The moral logic is pretty simple: Until the game fundamentally changes, I have to stop watching.

But it is one thing to publicly renounce your favorite sport, and another thing entirely to go cold turkey. It's August, the beginning of the beginning of the football season, and I've spent the month in cruel withdrawal, confronting the depth of my 40-year-old addiction. [...]

But sacrifice is what makes my effort meaningful, I know. The cost of moral progress— for me—is inconvenience and even grief. My hope is that I'll slowly adjust to a life without football and find the joys it provided me in other allegiances, ones that allow me to sleep a little easier. And yes, I realize that one fan's rehab may not change football, and that in the larger moral scheme of things, depriving myself of a decadent form of entertainment ranks as a minor First World problem. Still, fans need to recognize that the game isn't going to change until we force the issue by walking away.

Rebecca Burns at In These Times writes A RAD-ical Housing Experiment:
After decades of decay, public housing in the United States could soon be relegated to the dustbin of history, thanks to a new Obama administration initiative called the Rental Assistance Demonstration (RAD) program. A pilot launched last year in response to a $26 billion backlog in needed repairs, RAD will hand over 60,000 units of public housing nationwide to private management by 2015. Though that’s only a fraction of the nearly 1.2 million public housing units that provide a safety net for more than 2 million people, housing advocates worry that RAD’s reforms are a Trojan horse for sweeping privatization of a crucial public asset.

In the wake of the Great Depression, a surge of tenant activism helped usher in public housing as a federally funded, locally administered program to address poor living conditions in urban areas. But the program came to be viewed less as a public good and more as housing of last resort, giving rise to a cycle of demonization and neglect, followed by pernicious “reforms.” RAD is the latest in a series of initiatives to address the underfunding of public housing with a familiar free-market solution: handing off state-owned assets to private actors who receive public subsidies in exchange for an increasingly involved role in managing housing for low-income tenants.

David Dayen at The New Republic warns You Thought the Mortgage Crisis Was Over? It's About to Flare Up Again:
e are nearly eight years removed from the beginnings of the foreclosure crisis, with over five million homes lost. So it would be natural to believe that the crisis has receded. Statistics point in that direction. Financial analyst CoreLogic reports that the national foreclosure rate fell to 1.7 percent in June, down from 2.5 percent a year ago. Sales of foreclosed properties are at their lowest levels since 2008, and the rate of foreclosure starts—the beginning of the foreclosure process—is at 2006 levels. At the peak, 2.9 million homes suffered foreclosure filings in 2010; last year, the number was 1.4 million.

But these numbers are likely to reverse next year, with foreclosures spiking again. And it has nothing to do with recent-vintage loans, which actually have performed as well as any in decades. Instead, a series of temporary relief measures and legacy issues from the crisis will begin to bite in 2015, causing home repossessions that could present economic headwinds. In other words, the foreclosure crisis was never solved; it was deferred. And next year, the clock begins to run out on that deferral. [...]

A second foreclosure spike could stunt the housing recovery and really smash communities just rising from the ashes of the crisis. Permanent solutions could have been explored when it counted to prevent this from occurring. Now we’ll have to hope things don’t go as badly the second time around.

David A. Love at The Progressive writes The Militarization of the Police Is a Threat to Democracy :
The militarization of the police is not unique to Ferguson. Thanks to a federal program called 1033, the government authorized the distribution of $4.3 billion in surplus military materials to local law enforcement agencies. The equipment includes items such as pistols, automatic rifles, flash-bang or stun grenades, silencers, armored drones and armored vehicles used in Iraq and Afghanistan known as MRAPs (for Mine-Resistant Armored Protected). Police departments that want an MRAP need only fill out a one-page form. [...]

“The militarization of American policing is evident in the training that police officers receive, which encourages them to adopt a ‘warrior’mentality and think of the people they are supposed to serve as enemies, as well as in the equipment they use,” the report said. [...]

Police are community servants, not mercenaries. And when they view the community as a wartime enemy, then we are truly approaching a police state. - See more at: http://www.progressive.org/...

Dave Zirin at The Nation writes On the Little League World Series, Jackie Robinson West and Michael Brown:
To paraphrase bell hooks, the events of this summer show with bracing clarity that there are huge swaths of this country that love black culture and hate black people. It is difficult to not see this reality in the events of the last week: events that counterpose something as American as apple pie, the Little League World Series, and something else that is frankly also as American as apple pie: the killing of unarmed black men and women by police.

On the Little League side, Hollywood could not have painted a more soul-stirring tableau. We have the charming, charismatic champions of the United States, called Jackie Robinson West, hailing from the great metropolis of Chicago. JRW is a team consisting entirely of African-American kids. The fact that such a team has ascended to the finals of the Little League World Series is an astounding accomplishment both athletically as well as demographically. JRW is the first all African-American team to become US champions in over thirty years. During that same thirty-year stretch the number of African-American kids who play baseball has plummeted dramatically, their roster spots in Major League Baseball falling from 19 percent to 8 percent of all players. In college baseball, less than 6 percent of rosters have African-American players.

David Sirota at TruthDig writes Journalists on the Government’s Blacklist:
As states move to hide details of government deals with Wall Street, and as politicians come up with new arguments to defend secrecy, a study released earlier this month revealed that many government information officers block specific journalists they don’t like from accessing information. The news comes as 47 federal inspectors general sent a letter to lawmakers criticizing “serious limitations on access to records” that they say have “impeded” their oversight work.

The data about public information officers was compiled over the past few years by Kennesaw State University professor Dr. Carolyn Carlson. Her surveys found that 4 in 10 public information officers say “there are specific reporters they will not allow their staff to talk to due to problems with their stories in the past.”

“That horrified us that so many would do that,” Carlson told the Columbia Journalism Review, which reported on her presentation at the July conference of the Association for Education in Journalism and Mass Communication.

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  •  Best advice from Blow's column (39+ / 0-)

    comes at the very end:

    So the least I think all of us can do, in consoling solidarity, is to join them in paying our last respects. At 10 a.m. Central time on Monday, when the funeral is scheduled to begin, take a moment to think of them, to commiserate with two grieving parents, knowing they are in a position that none of us would want to be in.
    "In consoling solidarity" please take a moment of reflective silence at 10:00 AM Central

    As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them. John F. Kennedy

    by JaxDem on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:36:23 AM PDT

  •  RedState on Ferguson: Another surprise (9+ / 0-)

    Here is one conservative's take on the situation. Worth reading to mitigate some of our own stereotypes. Note especially the discussion of racism in the comments.

    •  Another fracture opens up in the GOP's talking (4+ / 0-)
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      points.

    •  Can you elaborate? I don't go there, but (2+ / 0-)
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      I thank you for the info.

      I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

      by a2nite on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 05:08:18 AM PDT

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      •  Rush Limbaugh ain't gonna like it. (2+ / 0-)
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      •  A well thought out post there (8+ / 0-)

        And some well thought out comments.

        The diarist was spelling out that there were legitimate reasons for the Ferguson situation.  Surprisingly he was not ripped apart in the comments.

        One commenter, apparently from NYC, admonished the readers not to treat their ideological enemies as sub-human, as well as not being so "NYC Phobic" (or some other term).  He was met with a surprisingly civil response.

        But it was not all polite IMO.  But if there are splits on that side over this I think we can say that the left isn't exactly unified on many issues, too.

        And the idea of not treating your enemies as sub-human is a valid point.  One of the comments there mentioned Al Sharpton with a slur, and then the "stopped clock" comment.  I think we should look in the mirror perhaps with that comment...

    •  Post was good (6+ / 0-)

      and perhaps will open a door to some other ways of thinking of race on that side but I don't see it in the comments.  The stereotyping and blaming is off the charts. The right can not be wrong and their view of things will never change.  The situation of race is going to be changed for the better by the black community and the left despite the resistance and roadblocks put forth by the right.  

      Everyone! Arms akimbo! 68351

      by tobendaro on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 05:53:23 AM PDT

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    •  Thank you. (1+ / 0-)
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      Really enjoyed reading that article and the comments.

      There was no reason to fear abuse of such mildness, because it sprang not from weakness, but from a higher clarity.

      by Sally Foster on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 06:22:42 AM PDT

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    •  Yes, a very interesting post on RedState. However, (7+ / 0-)

      this paragraph near the end almost ruined it for me:

      The unfortunate part of all this is that Barack Obama was elected based on a similar set of sentiments – change the racial composition of government and race issues will be solved.  The vast majority (95+%) of blacks voted for Obama.  And he came into office espousing radical left-wing philosophy and has governed accordingly.  And his policies failed. The First Black President has not repaired race relations.  Rather, due to the constant race-card-playing by Obama and his administration and party, race relations are even worse than they started after his inauguration.
      After an extremely thoughtful essay on the validity of Ferguson's residents' reaction to the Brown murder, he just has to inject the usual anti-Obama RWNJ lunacy into it, almost (but not quite) derailing his post.

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      by Turn Left on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:43:46 AM PDT

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      •  Darn, I left out the last sentence of that graph: (9+ / 0-)

        Just add this to the end of the blocked paragraph above:

        The cynicism that many of us on the Right feel when these topics arise is undoubtedly due in large part to Barack Obama and his abuse of the race issue.
        No, the cynicism that many of you on the Right feel etc. is undoubtedly due to the racism institutionalized within your own party.

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        by Turn Left on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:47:46 AM PDT

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        •  Yes, that last paragraph... (1+ / 0-)
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          weakened what was otherwise a very good and balanced essay.

          Did he go there just to reinforce his bona-fides as a redstate member?

          The republicons moan, the republicons bitch. Our rich are too poor and our poor are too rich. Ferguson Foont

          by Josiah Bartlett on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 09:29:55 AM PDT

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          •  That and the comments (1+ / 0-)
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            There is not much to no understanding of what Bill S wrote in a decent piece on Ferguson. Wow! I wonder if we appear as off-the-rails to them as they did to me just now reading the comments (ordered by popularity).

            Blatant, in-your-face racism with every stereotype trotted out to justify zero logic. Bill S reigns in a couple of their more offensive response but peeeyooo or Redstate readers!

            It is in the admission of ignorance and the admission of uncertainty that there is a hope for the continuous motion of human beings in some direction that doesn't get confined, permanently blocked, as it has so many times before... Richard P. Feynman

            by TerryDarc on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 11:20:30 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly. Well written piece until the end. I (3+ / 0-)
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        assume he had to throw some red meat out there. Regarding comments - RS commenters by in large always agree with what is written. If they disagree with a diarist the other mods will usually stomp all over them. I did not see some of the usual suspects out there. It would appear that at least some ppl over there realize what a bunch of racist a-holes populate that site.

        if a habitat is flooded, the improvement for target fishes increases by an infinite percentage...because a habitat suitability index that is even a tiny fraction of 1 is still infinitely higher than zero, which is the suitability of dry land to fishes.

        by mrsgoo on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:56:45 AM PDT

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    •  I was thinking today that bigotry (0+ / 0-)

      is our feeling that we "are better than those (fill in the blank) folks. Hard core racism is when we up the hate and the anger to a higher level. But we are doing ourselves a disservice to continually denigrate the tea baggers (sorry about the denigration but it is hard to find a term that isn't any more due to the level of enmity we have built up thereby showing the extent of the problem) because we are natural allies in some of our major issues.

      ALL of our institutions have been hollowed out by the greed ethos. There are none left with heart intact or souls for that matter. So the zombie is all around us - me

      by glitterscale on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 08:10:26 AM PDT

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      •  True, but can you work with them? (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm sure they would say the same about us however, in my own experience and observation, democrats are generally willing to work on a solution or compromise as were republicans of 30 years ago.  The Tea Party has made it very clear that will not compromise and consider anyone who does as a traitor to be vilified and cast out.

        If we were ever to be allies it would only be a coincidence, not an actual alliance.

        America, where a rising tide lifts all boats! Unless you don't have a boat...uh...then it lifts all who can swim! Er, uh...um...and if you can't swim? SHAME ON YOU!

        by Back In Blue on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 11:46:06 AM PDT

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  •  David Dayen's other observation (7+ / 0-)
    Because the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act expired in 2013, and may not ever get renewed, all mortgage relief given to borrowers will get treated as earned income for tax purposes, leaving the borrower with a huge tax bill they are unlikely to be able to afford. The first tax bills reflecting this will come due in April 2015.
    You have to wonder who oversees the banking system; the system is getting ready to blow yet again. As the US has allowed capital to concentrate, traditional banks have lost their big clients and have been forced to use inflated housing valuations to sustain their balance sheets. At such levels, however, people who rely on earned income from labor can't buy a house even if they commit over half of their earnings to servicing the mortgage. The fickle rich in turn move offshore to private bank. For example, I had a friend who was interviewing management at large banks (measured in assets) in Switzerland. He was confused at one bank, and pretty sure he'd made a mistake, when the bank he visited on his list occupied just one floor of a building. He asked why such modest digs. The bank president replied, "What do you mean? We have nine clients already, and certainly aren't looking for more! Don't you think this is big enough?"

    It is not easy to see what you are not looking for, or to know what it is you do not know.

    by kosta on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 04:56:35 AM PDT

  •  Dan Rather to pundits: send your own kids to war (14+ / 0-)

    war is an abstraction when we send either official mercenaries, the contractors who make several times the salary of the regular military, or the "soldiers" who have little chance for employment with so few jobs

    the pundits and oligarchs are totally separated from serving in the military

    can anyone believe that ISIS is a threat to the US? This sounds as bad as Bush

    i added the bold. the corporate media does not challenge power, it supports it

    “Those of us in journalism, and I include myself in this, we have a lot to answer for about what we did do and what we didn’t do in the run up to the war in Iraq. We didn’t ask the right questions, we didn’t ask enough questions, we didn’t ask the followup questions. We did not challenge power. I am concerned that once again as the war drums begin to beat and get louder and louder that there will be a herd mentality of saying, ‘Well, we have to go to war in Syria, we have to go to war in Ukraine.’ I don’t think it’s an overstatement to say that we need to be thinking very very carefully and seriously about this, and journalists have a special responsibility to at least ask the right questions.”
    Dan Rather to Pundits Calling for War: Send Your Own Kids or ‘Don’t Even Talk to Me’
  •  I was wondering how I was going to get back (0+ / 0-)

    to sleep. The world sucks this morning. Hell, for weeks.

    Free Will is the only moral law.//If you have to explain snark, it's because it isn't working on one end or the other.

    by franklyn on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 05:07:07 AM PDT

  •  FBI: No credible threats to US from Islamic State (17+ / 0-)

    FBI: No credible threats to US from Islamic State

    we are a military empire on the way down

    we have neglected the home front for decades and put our resources and energy into financial games and military adventurism

    the last president who challenged the military industrial (surveillance) complex was JFK and we know what happened to him

    •  But it threatens "American interests" (3+ / 0-)
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      which we have defined so broadly that any instability, anywhere in the world, is enough grounds for the US military-"intelligence"-special ops community to feel compelled to get involved.

      When the ""somewhere" has either long-time allies (or significant sunk costs / dead American soldiers, as Iraq) or significant US financial interests (oil, especially), it's almost impossible for the President to resist the clamor for him to "do something."

    •  b-but... (5+ / 0-)

      some neocon and Republican apologists were just spamming the thread yesterday trying to scare everyone into believing that they could bring the next 9/11 and untold number of attacks here--which justifies another mult-billion dollar military operation in Iraq.  

      Some crazy militant murders an American in a godforesaken war zone?--no amount is too much to prevent whatever fever-dream Islamist attack in the U.S.!

      Some crazy cop from a militarized PD in the U.S. kills an American teenager on an American street?  Eh, no big deal, let's wait for more facts to come in.

      you can shit on my face but that doesn't mean I have to lick my lips

      by red rabbit on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:12:13 AM PDT

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    •  Right On! (3+ / 0-)
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      If you think about what happened to JFK because he wanted to change things for the better, it dawns on you what kind of country this is.

      If I was a communist, rich men would fear me...And the opposite applies. The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

      by stewarjt on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 07:12:50 AM PDT

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  •  I think the main reason people move S and W (6+ / 0-)

    is for the warmth. That's why everyone I know has moved. They are looking for a combination of escaping the bitter winters in a location they can afford.

  •  please join Almond's boycott (2+ / 0-)
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    That is one boycott I can support. Football exacerbates so many problems in our culture, and I see it on a regular basis on my university campus.

    One issue that Almond didn't talk about is the use of public funds for private profit (again) when building the complexes in which these games are played.

    •  Watching football: moral dissonance. (1+ / 0-)
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      Almond is right. I've been working in dementia research for more than 25 years, and I gave up watching football - or paying any attention to it! - several years ago. I had to face up to the moral dissonance involved in getting entertainment from a sport built on collisions that put the players on a pathway to chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Watching football, then turning around and spending the rest of the week trying to figure out causes, treatment, and prevention of dementia? I can't do it.

      And our (public) university decided, against the wishes of 2/3 of the faculty, to go from Division II to Division I, and built a new football stadium right across from my office. So 5 Saturdays a year, I get to listen to screaming crowds cheering on the brain damage sport, subsidized by the state, while I'm trying to figure out Alzheimer's disease. Sigh.

  •  THE RENTS TOO DAMN HIGH! <EOM> (0+ / 0-)
  •  Who cares about ISIL's social media skills? (1+ / 0-)
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    What got my attention, and I believe the administration's, is their military takeover of a big chunk of (formerly) ethnically and confessionally mixed Iraq and Syria.  The administration is responding to the military threat, not some vague PR "threat".

    I thoroughly agree that we should not at all be worried about the PR threat.  Fisk is welcome to chew up that straw man all he wants.  He's even welcome to chaw on Senator Graham a bit, for his hysteria over a non-existent military threat to US shores.  But when he's done with that bit of fun, maybe he can tell us what's to be done to protect Iraq and Syria from military conquest, or whether that's not worth doing, or not doable.  Those are the actual questions out there.

    The states must be abolished.

    by gtomkins on Mon Aug 25, 2014 at 09:51:26 AM PDT

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