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While it has not been verified, an alleged audio recording of the shooting of Michael Brown, the unarmed teenager shot down by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, on August 9, has surfaced:

A man who lives near the scene of the shooting says he inadvertently recorded the shots that killed Brown, his lawyer, Lopa Blumenthal, told CNN. The man, who wished to remain unidentified, was recording a video chat with a friend when gunfire rang out in the background. Blumenthal said her client has already been interviewed by the FBI about the recording.
On the tape, you can hear six shots being fired, a short pause and than an addition four or five shots. An autopsy report released last week said that Brown was shot at least six times.

For more discussion on this, see justiceputnam's diary.

Originally posted to Barbara Morrill on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 05:29 AM PDT.

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  •  I thought it was six times. (12+ / 0-)

    And why would an autopsy say "at least six times" and not the actual number? Didn't the coroner know how many?

    Is it just me or does it sound like there was an attempt to minimize the number?

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    by Words In Action on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:02:20 AM PDT

  •  Six plus four or five (23+ / 0-)

    and each shot needs a justification.

    That's a lot of explaining to do using a blank police incident report.

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    by crystal eyes on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:12:08 AM PDT

  •  This is a Total and Complete Game Nonchanger. (13+ / 0-)

    Seems to fit generally with the eyewitness testimony, it fits with the significant number of shots taken by the victim and also with the known significant miss rate of police (more shots fired than struck home). It shows the event happened in a short time frame, it might account for the victim turning or beginning to otherwise change his posture after the first burst.

    It doesn't show a noticeably different tone in the second burst so it was likely from the same gun and position as the first.

    The biggest issues will be establishing concretely that the audio was recorded when and where claimed; and a scientific scrutiny to be sure there was no tampering.

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    by Gooserock on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:16:09 AM PDT

    •  Except that (4+ / 0-)

      the final volley does not account for all of the wounds.  So at least 1 wound was caused prior to the final volley.  Now it doesn't make sense that he would fire 2 separate series of shots while Brown was facing him.  I would think that if that were the case then Brown would certainly hit the ground after the first round of shots - IF he were facing the officer.  

      Not sure why that is/was so important to folks - whether he was or was not hit from behind, but it seems to be the case.

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      by newfie on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:41:06 AM PDT

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      •  That's right. (5+ / 0-)

        I do think he was likely hit from behind (probably the forearm injury) but even f he wasn't actually struck from behind, eyewitness' stories still hold up.

        I think that, in a few more weeks when more information becomes available, the pieces will fit even more neatly together against Wilson.

        This tape, in and of itself, may not be a "game changer", but it does she'd more light on the shooting and adds credibility to eyewitness statements so far.

  •  Problematic (12+ / 0-)

    The first burst is 6 shots, then a pause, then five or possibly six. For Wilson's account to be legit, he would have had to hit Brown 6 out of 6 in the second volley after missing him entirely with the first.

    By Wilson's account, Brown got maybe 35 feet from the vehicle, ultimately dying 10-20 feet from it after he turned around. If that's true, Wilson went from being a terrible shot at a running man to being a great shot at a running man, over roughly the same distance out and back.
    If the witnesses are correct, and Brown jerked "as if" he was hit, then Wilson likely clipped him in the first volley (likely the inner bicep hit that the coroner said was possibly back-to-front - and a spot that isn't easy to hit from the front, even by chance) and, after a pause, hit him with 5 out of 5 or 6 in the second volley.

    That seems an odd change of accuracy, unless Brown was moving more slowly (or not at all). That would be consistent with some reports that Brown was either walking back or standing, hands raised, when he was shot (that would also account for the palm hit - odd if someone is sprinting, from any angle - and why the other arm hits all managed to be at largely the same angle of entry, which would be unlikely if the arm was vigorously moving in a sprint).

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    by Jaxpagan on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:21:21 AM PDT

    •  My fear is that this mixed bag of evidence... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...hits what will likely be a mostly white jury...and that we'll have one hung jury after another or an acquittal. If the evidence makes it impossible to find the cop guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, it's hard to imagine a jury finding him guilty of anything.

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      by Love Me Slender on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:40:33 AM PDT

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    •  Do we have Wilson's account? (1+ / 0-)
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      I was under the impression that Wilson has not spoken publicly, and he did not prepare a report for the police department. What is the source for Wilson's account that you describe?

      Somebody who claims to be a friend of the girlfriend of Wilson also claimed to know his story. But has Wilson done anything to confirm that she is indeed relating his side of the story?

  •  Those last four or five (11+ / 0-)

    were the ones Brown would have fired, had he been armed, because he was extremely dangerous, and therefore the shooting was self-defense.

    Does that about cover it?

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    by Boundegar on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:26:48 AM PDT

  •  Why so many shots? (13+ / 0-)

    Each time I read about a police shooting, it seems the officer ends up spraying the victim with multiple bullets, as if in a mad panic or orgy of bloodlust. Why are they not trained to shoot just ONCE (and only as a last resort) and to aim to disable rather than kill?

    And regarding the exact number of bullets the cop shot: It ought to be a simple matter of examining his weapon and bullet supply. Every officer should be accountable for each and every bullet they carry, most especially if they discharge their weapon for any purpose. If this is not the case, then it should be fixed.

    But I wonder if any aspect of Officer Wilson's behavior got immediate scrutiny. Did anybody test him for drugs and alcohol?

    •  This whole case is spiraling out of control... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...in a hurry.

      Multiple autopsies...audio evidence that is very difficult to draw conclusions from...and only ONE side of the story able to be told (since the other party is no longer living).

      Sadly, what should be an open-and-shut case has the makings of a justice system clusterfuck.

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      by Love Me Slender on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:43:20 AM PDT

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      •  Well, for us the audio is difficult to draw (0+ / 0-)

        conclusions from, but when put together with other evidence, who knows?  None of us have that evidence.

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        by cany on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 11:17:54 AM PDT

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    •  Here's what I don't understand (2+ / 0-)


      RE: The cop's story

      If somebody had shot at you once in the car, then shot at you while you were running away, why would you turn and run at them?

      I'd be taking cover.

      I mean if somebody is shooting at you multiple times they are clearly trying to hit you. Why run at them? The cops story doesn't hold water to me.

      On the other hand the story about the cop opening the door and it getting accidentally bounced back closed again doesn't hold water to me.

      The truth is somewhere in the middle, although I just can't see any justification for shooting the kid, even if he was running at me. What about a billy club? Mace?

      •  The whole "he went for my gun" scenario (15+ / 0-)

        sounds odd to me.

        If Wilson is right-handed, his gun would be on his right hip.  In order to get at his gun, Brown would have had to reach into the car window ACROSS Wilson's body and grab for the holstered gun.  Think about trying to do that and how awkward that would be to pull off, especially given Wilson will be trying to stop him as soon as he figures out what's going on.  That doesn't sound very likely, and what would Brown's motive be for doing that?  If he was panicked at the thought of being caught for shoplifting, wouldn't he just run for it?

        The only scenario that I can see where grabbing for the gun makes sense is if Wilson already had the gun drawn and in his hand.

        •  Absolutely... (6+ / 0-)
          The only scenario that I can see where grabbing for the gun makes sense is if Wilson already had the gun drawn and in his hand.
          That's what I think must have happened. Wilson had drawn his gun and was going to shoot Michael.
          Michael tried to prevent him from shooting, so the "wrestling" at the car door...

          Recently at a get-together, someone said that they'd heard that the gun was fired once in the car... but we'll never know, will we?

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          by third Party please on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 07:36:09 AM PDT

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          •  gun was fired once in the car (2+ / 0-)
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            According to both the police and Dorian Johnson, Wilson fired the gun once while still in the car. We'll know for sure once the evidence is released. Assuming there's a trial. Which there better be.

            •  or at least... (0+ / 0-)

              ...the gun went off inside the car. And yes, if Wilson had drawn his gun already (I heard a retired police officer refer to the strong possibility that Wilson had "broken leather" while still in the car) with one hand while attempting to hold Brown with the other (several witnesses say they believe Brown was trying to pull away and Wilson was trying to pull him into the car through the window), then trying to get control of the gun, if only to push it away, sounds an awful lot like trying to save his own life. It won't surprise me at all to hear that Brown's fingerprints were on the gun.

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              by Chameo on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 11:41:39 AM PDT

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        •  I agree as well (3+ / 0-)
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          So that's one moment where Wilson contemplated using deadly force or tried to with a shot.

          Then, allegedly, he gets out of his cruiser and tries again as Brown is running away with the first volley of shots heard on the audio.

          Then, his finishes Brown off with the second volley - after he's had a few second to deliberate that.

          This officer seemed pretty determined to use deadly force as he made the decision to do so three separate times.

          I think the audio is helpful to illustrate that.

        •  My sentiments exactly (0+ / 0-)

          This tale that Wilson's friend spins appears to be a testing of accounts until they reach one that works.

    •  Well, (0+ / 0-)

      The idea is that if firing your weapon is necessary it's a life-threatening situation, so you fire at center of mass (the torso) with the intent of "neutralizing" the threat.  Shooting to "disable" (as in aiming for a leg or an arm) may not remove the threat and is a trickier shot to make, so they're not trained to go that route.  And the multiple shots are because you are supposed to make sure the threat is gone.

      That doesn't excuse this situation, where a gun was emptied at an unarmed suspect some yards from the officer.  But anyway, that's an explanation why cops don't shoot to disable.  They're trained to neutralize a life-threatening situation as quickly as possible, and that means taking down the suspect quickly.

  •  Barney Fife used to carry one bullet in his pocket (1+ / 0-)
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    Sheriff Andy Griffith would check on many episodes to make sure that Deputy Barney still had his bullet with him.  

    Barney never fired his gun, never went out to the firing range and never killed a man.

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    by NM Ray on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:41:41 AM PDT

  •  There have been several such killings (10+ / 0-)

    by police officers of unarmed people over the years.  This has been a problem for a while but Ferguson is finally bringing it to light. Despite the seeming racial polarization on this issue, many conservatives are probably at least wary that police officers can act in a rash manner.  We need to think seriously about the protocols of when and how they fire their guns and the guns themselves.  

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    by khyber900 on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 06:43:22 AM PDT

  •  10-11 shots, 6 hit? something isnt adding up! (6+ / 0-)

    If the audio is real....I think it's damning to Wilson. I counted 10 possibly 11 shots. We know that he was hit 6 times... that means only 4-5 shots missed. So we're to believe that the officer was assaulted then Mike ran atleast 25 ft away and then decided to turn around while being shot at and decided to run right back into the fire to attack the man shooting him? He fired 6 shots first while mike was running which means atleast 1-2 had to have hit him at that point because we know he was shot mostly in the front so that means the last 4-5 were shots were after he turned to surrender and none of which missed. The math doesn't add up... If we're to believe an account that favors the cop, that means we believe that all of the first 6 shots missed and that mike decided...now I'm gonna stop running away and turn around and bum rush him at a 90° angle from 25 feet away. Then all 6 shots hit him from the front with 4-5 bullets....

    •  as much as I want to avoid (1+ / 0-)
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      drawing too many conclusions, this mirrors my own thoughts on the audio evidence. I'll be curious to hear what the RW machine comes up with for an explanation.

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      by eparrot on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:04:10 AM PDT

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  •  Where's the single, first shot? (7+ / 0-)

    From what I gathered, there was:

    * A single shot from Wilson, fired while Brown was in the window...

    * Brown runs, Wilson gets out and fires a volley while Brown runs...

    * Brown stops, turns around, and Wilson fires another volley.

    There should be audio prior to this recording that records the single, first shot.

    •  the sound may have been muffled (3+ / 0-)

      The last eyewitness to come forward (something Brady?) said he didn't hear a shot in the car. I think possibly some of the other eyewitnesses also did not report hearing a shot in the car.

      But Dorian Johnson, who was the closest to the car, said he heard a shot (he also said he saw blood on Mike Brown as a result of that first shot), and the police also say there was one shot fired in the car.

      •  If the FBI got to the car fast enough... (0+ / 0-)

        before Ferguson cops got it cleaned up, then there might be forensic evidence inside the car. Gunpowder residue, blood.

        There will also be fingerprints that might be useful. One eyewitness said that Mike had his hands on the door of the car, like he was trying to push away from the car.

    •  I do hear the first shot. Listen to it again. (3+ / 0-)
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      1 shot - Pause.  
      5 shots -  Longer Pause.  
      1 shot - Pause.
      3 shots.

      Total conjecture on my part, but I believe the burst of 5 (possibly 6) shots is when Michael is running away from the officer.  

      We know from the autopsy Michael was hit at least a total of 6 times.  So if the first shot hits Michael on the arm (as stated by Dorian) and the kill shots are the 2 to the head, that leaves 3 remaining hits.  At least 2 of those, Michael had to be facing Officer Wilson.  One of the hits (grazing wound) could have occurred while Michael was running which means he was hit from behind.

      No matter how you slice it, this does not look good for the officer.  Even if he had known about the "stealing in progress", how can he justify killing a "suspect" like this?

      That is why Officer Wilson HAS to state Michael went for his gun and assaulted him.  That would make Michael a fleeing felon and in this officer's judgment, he could then use deadly force.

      But once Michael turns around to surrender, he is no longer a fleeing felon and the shots should have ended at that point.

      That is why Officer Wilson HAS to state Michael charged him and he was in fear for his life.  That is how he will justify the pause and then resumption of shots.

      If he gets the "right" jury (assuming he is even charged), he will walk.  

      BALLISTICS will be the single most important part of the investigation.  The angle of the bullets will be crucial.  It will also be important to determine where all 10 shots landed.  

  •  Whoah. (6+ / 0-)

    First thing that jumps out is that it is a VERY long time in between barrages of shots being fired.

    Second, is makes me question whether there was even a shot fired while Wilson and Brown were wrestling/struggling at the car.

    To me, it sounds like that officer had enough time to make a conscious decision that he couldn't leave the kid alive as a witness.

    We also know that Michael was shot at least 6 times. We also know that the final "kill shot" to the top of the head was almost certainly the last shot to hit him.

    I'm sorry, but this tape to me just corroborates the stories of every eyewitness I've heard on one level or another. This is sounding more and more like premeditated murder with every piece of information that comes out.

    •  Excellent point about initial shot (1+ / 0-)
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      There does seem to be a first distinct initial shot, followed by a barrage starting after a less than one second interval.

      From the first to the last shot was only six seconds.  I have to wonder how far Wilson or Brown could have moved their respective bodies in those six seconds.   e.g., Was Wilson out of the car and standing when he fired the first shot?   Was Brown already running away when the first shot was fired to get as far he did in six seconds?   Actually, less than six seconds because he was probably dead by the sixth second. Extremely sad to write that.

      I think this audio recording is going to be critical for establishing an unassailable timeline foundation for courtroom testimony.

      •  how about some pure speculation (5+ / 0-)

        We know from eyewitnesses and the layout of the crime scene that Mike Brown and Dorian Johnson ran in the opposite direction from the way Wilson's car was pointing, and that Wilson's body ended up 30-35 feet from the car.

        This recording doesn't seem to capture the first shot (the sound could have been muffled), but then captures a volley of 6 shots, with a very short pause between shots 1 and 2, then a three-second pause, then 4 more shots.

        So my speculation is that as Wilson was getting out of the car he fired one wild shot at Mike Brown across the hood, probably through the gap between the door frame and the car body, then once Wilson was fully outside the car he fired 5 more shots  as he (Wilson) was moving around the front of the car. Those shots were fired at Mike Brown's back as Brown ran away.

        Then, during the 3-second gap, Mike Brown turns around to surrender and Wilson gets all the way around to the other side of his vehicle. At that point, neither one of them is moving, and Wilson fires 4 more times, killing Brown.

        The eyewitnesses and common sense say Mike Brown turned around and stood still, surrendering. Reportedly, the cop's story is that Mike Brown charged him. It seems likely the case will come down to whether a jury (or the grand jury) believes the 4 or 5 eyewitnesses, who all have roughly the same account and have no particular reason to lie, or believe Wilson, who has every motive to concoct a lie.

        One could question the wisdom/legality of a cop firing at a fleeing person who doesn't pose an immediate threat to anybody, and one could certainly question the wisdom of wildly firing 10 or more shots in a residential area, but it seems exceptionally unlikely that Wilson would ever be disciplined, let alone convicted of a crime, for his poor judgment / psychopathic rage. Those final 4 shots, after a 3-second pause, will be the crux.

        I honestly can't conceive of a scenario in which shooting at the back of an unarmed teenager who is running away from you could possibly be justified, or shooting an unarmed teenager standing 30 feet away. But what do I know…

        •  Wilson's story (3+ / 0-)

          Wilson has not spoken publicly, nor did he write up the report of what happened--at least as far I know.

          Somebody else has been claiming to tell "his story"--but, while she acts like an eyewitness, she only claims to be a friend of Wilson's girlfriend.  

          He can distance himself from that story anytime he wants--like, after the FBI's forensic and autopsy reports become available to him and his lawyer.

          I think it would be wiser to not accept stories floating around as Wilson's story. He has remained silent. Let's see what Wilson's story is, if and when he goes on trial.

          •  good points (2+ / 0-)
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            That's why I said it was "reportedly" Wilson's story. Reportedly, CNN/MSNBC "confirmed" with their "sources" inside "the police" that the friend's story is very close to the account Wilson actually gave investigators. Wilson can't really change the story he gave to investigators, but as you say, we don't yet know what that story was.

            •  My trust in the media is so low these days (0+ / 0-)

              They are so keen to get this story: no wonder they are willing to go with whatever they can get. Who knows what those "sources" actually know about what he told investigators? The police seem to have been working hard to help their colleague stay out of trouble.

              His primary focus right now has to be avoiding conviction, which will probably be easy in Missouri, but may be a problem for federal charges. I think about what somebody in his shoes has to do if he intends to be a little loosey-goosey with the facts so as to put himself in the best (and safest) possible light. But, at the same time, he has to be able to pivot in case forensic evidence might contradict what he claims happened.

              It's probably nice if you have friends in high places who will pass info along to you as the investigation proceeds. If he does.

      •  Sprinting in FLIP FLOPS (3+ / 0-)

        I always thought this was a ridiculous explanation. Who's going to run away from a hail of bullets and then turn around and charge back at the officer?

        And Michael Brown was wearing FLIP FLOPS... I defy anyone to sprint in flip flops. From the photos we can see the flip flops are still on his feet where they left him lying in the roadway.

  •  Video sex chat. Awesome. (3+ / 0-)
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    I was thinking there's no way to record a Facetime video chat, or any other video chat that I'm aware of, on iOS or Android.  Maybe it was a Skype video recording?  There are some third party tools that let you record Skype, and that might explain the clarity of the caller's dulcet tones...

    And then I realized, OH, duh. He's recording a video sex chat line. That's why he released just the audio, too. The video is probably a split screen of him naked talking to HotBunny69 for $4.99/minute.  Hence, "just going on some of your videos," etc.  Wonder if the full video will ever come out lol.  Pretty brave of the guy to release this, actually.

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    by cartwrightdale on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:05:14 AM PDT

    •  Recording chats... (0+ / 0-)

      On a Mac you can record an audio or video chat from within the iChat application.

      Professional video conference services (WebEx) also let you record meetings.

      While anything is possible I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it was a video sex chat.

  •  Collaborates Testimony of Witnesses (2+ / 0-)
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    It seems to support Dorian Johnson's testimony that Michael was shot first in the palm of his hand, then in the arm as he ran away. The officer missed Michael four times. Then Michael turned around and was shot four more times. With a reasonable jury, it will be almost impossible for Wilson to justify firing 10 shots. However, I have no confidence that the investigation process will be fair. The right wingers are going to say that the officer had the right to execute Michael because of the initial scuffle, and I'm afraid that the grand jury is going to agree with this argument, at the urging of the pro-officer biased prosecutor.

    •  Investigation process (2+ / 0-)

      The local investigation won't be fair. They are bending over backwards to help out their colleague. I think the prosecutor intends to do the same, which is why he isn't going to recuse himself and allow an unbiased special prosecutor to step in.

      I hope that the FBI investigation will be done professionally. The FBI has gone door-to-door in the area, looking for possible witnesses. Since witnesses may be unwilling to talk to the local police, that's a good idea.

  •  Take the sex chat out of the video (2+ / 0-)
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    then listen to the shots.  Michael may have just been given the retribution he is owed for being murdered then being left on a street for four hours on display in his own neighborhood in Ferguson MO.  The truth has to come out whether I am right or wrong.  

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    by sabathiel on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:34:50 AM PDT

  •  my prediction: locals will whitewash it- it won't (1+ / 0-)
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    even go to trial...feds will indict on some charges

  •  off topic (0+ / 0-)

    but really?  Skype sex talk?

  •  If true, murder much more likely (2+ / 0-)
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    Interesting that there was no incident report written right after either.

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    by jbeach on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 08:55:14 AM PDT

    •  Lawyer's advice, maybe (1+ / 0-)
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      Better to be disciplined, or even fired, for not writing a report on what happened in those few minutes, than to be found guilty at trial. If he had written the report, he would have to stick to that, regardless of what the forensic evidence showed later.

      •  Definitely sounds like lawyer's advice (1+ / 0-)
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        That the rest of the department went along with, rather than requiring he fill out something.

        My purely limited and civilian understanding of this, is that police unions get involved and bring lawyers into something like this almost immediately, and I'd be surprised if all police brass didn't go along.

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        by jbeach on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 01:04:24 PM PDT

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  •  Need Volunteers to Send Public Records Requests (2+ / 0-)
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    If you can email public records requests regarding the Ferguson shooting - please email me (and share this infer)

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  •  I hope this recording is genuine... (0+ / 0-)

    so that Wilson can be prosecuted.

    Nobody expects "free stuff" as much as the 2%!

    by epforrester on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 09:56:55 AM PDT

  •  If 11 shots were fired by Darren Wilson, ... (0+ / 0-)

    ...then he had to re-load.

    Failure to Publicize Acts of Hatred Only Allows Them to Fester and Metastasize.

    by BoxerDave on Tue Aug 26, 2014 at 10:05:35 AM PDT

  •  Shot Pattern (0+ / 0-)

    When I saw the autopsy of shot wound markings it seemed strange. They were in a line lower body to head to the right side of Brown's body. It seems like he had a gun on automatic or semi-automatic firing off shots rapidly like he went right upward with the recoil of the weapon. There was no shot pattern like individual shots being fired one at a time. They would be left and right of a center line. That would mean many things for the last wound to the head entering at top and reentering lower in the body. That doesn't make sense either. For Wilson to keep firing, and now 10 to 12 times, is murder. The case against him is too obvious even to the lay person. I have law enforcement training from the military and he failed many common teachings. That alone is criminal.

  •  Pussy (0+ / 0-)

    That pussy cop should be taken by the men and boys of Ferguson and used sexually in any manner they seem fit. It won't bring Brown back but it will sure make the pussy cop sorry he murdered the kid.

  •  Big Mike's Plans (0+ / 0-)

    Sorry to bring up something that most people want to avoid: why would Michael Brown strong-arm/rob some smokes just a few days before he was supposed to start studying to be an air-conditioning technician? First of all, most people do their shoplifting the standard way by stealing when no one's looking.  Not Big Mike. He made sure to intimidate and push around a smaller man. But again, why this timing, right before starting school?

    I think Mike didn't feel like working hard in school, learning a trade and going off to work. So he did a dumb robbery where the victim could easily ID him (no mask, etc.) Maybe he thought he'd get a little rap sheet, do some jail time, avoid the hassle of going to a vocational program. But I know that we're all just supposed to focus on the outrage of his getting killed.

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