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Female anchor: Do we even know who is this '4chan' person, or website?

Male anchor: He may... and I'm sure we'll be able to get some confirmation of this as the hours and minutes go on... ah he may have been some system administrator who knew his way around and how to hack things. It seems like this was not a real uh, big effort, but was more of 'I have these usernames. I know of this loophole, this security loophole. I'm just you know gonna run this password app. and see if I can get into these people's cloud-based accounts.' And what's... what's sad about it, and I'm sorry that I'm laughing about it, because it's awful if this has happened to you, but what's sad about it is that this has become our new reality, as with the cloud...

FA: With the cloud. That's my... that's what I wanted to get to because we've all... a lot of people have...

MA: We've all done these things...

FA: You know, what ever... what ever your situation is taking a photograph...

MA: yeah...

FA: and then 'Poof!' it's out there in the aether, and what can we do to not have...

MA: Not have this kind of stuff happen...

FA: ...this happen...

*End of transcript AFAIK... my ears and eyes have started to bleed.

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  •  Teh stoopid... it burns. (19+ / 0-)

    As private parts to the gods are we, they play with us for their sport. - Black Adder "Chains"

    by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Tue Sep 02, 2014 at 10:50:05 PM PDT

  •  On a day where we are all sweating (10+ / 0-)

    if there is going to be be a nuclear war or asteroid strike that destroys all of humanity, Justin Bieber and James Franco will get in a shoving match over Franco saying Selena Gomez is as relevant in Hollywood as Lindsey Lohan and the news about the maybe apocalypse will have to wait until that shit is settled.

    No, we are not cutting away to President Obama's press conference on the last minute phone call to Putin for emergency peace talks, or the status report on the launching of the 'Savior One' Asteroid Deflection Device with Elon Musk.

    A guy who knows a guy who was college roomates with a guy who knows actor James Franco's agent is on set.

    "Real journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." -George Orwell

    by LeftHandedMan on Tue Sep 02, 2014 at 11:07:42 PM PDT

  •  Today, we are all 4chan. (4+ / 0-)

    To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

    by UntimelyRippd on Tue Sep 02, 2014 at 11:16:16 PM PDT

  •  I know several of the women who were hacked, an... (6+ / 0-)

    I know several of the women who were hacked, and I'm not laughing. Now comes word that Mckayla Maroney's photos were taken when she was underage, and I struggle even harder to yuck it up over child pornography.

    •  Who's laughing? I'm pointing out the.. (4+ / 0-)
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      JesseCW, Sandino, kharma, Karl Rover

      childish way CNN is dealing with and reporting somebody's bedroom project (exposing nudie pix of 'celebrities'). Because that's all it is. Someone's childish prank. I dare say that it was probably even child's play to hack the accounts.

      Re: Mckayla Maroney - I haven't seen the pix (or any of them actually). Not interested. But who are you angry at? The person who took them, or the one who showed the world?

      As private parts to the gods are we, they play with us for their sport. - Black Adder "Chains"

      by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Tue Sep 02, 2014 at 11:38:25 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  You don't get it at all (12+ / 0-)

        And what pisses me off is how little men do get regarding this. I could give a flying fuck how the gasbags at CNN mangled their own story.

        Maroney's pictures were taken by herself, for herself, but they were hacked and stolen from her phone, TRADED among perverts in a ring, who then tried to sell them to Porn.com, TMZ, and others. Mary Winstead took photos with her husband, and deleted them.

        They didn't ask for this, they didn't selectively leak photos for publicity. This was forced on them by someone who took what they wanted, because they could.

        One of the pricks who did it is on the run from the FBI, and he's threatening to release all of his photos and videos before he's caught as a kind of blackmail.

        The fact that you think this is child's play, or a childish prank, or no big deal, is sexist as shit and enables worse than misogyny, it gives an "at a boy" pat on the back to the exploitation and violation of women by these fucking cretins.

        Fucking disgusting, and it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up I'm so pissed off.

        Lastly, if I have to hear one more whiny, bullshit hipster argument about all the problems we could be talking about instead of this, I'm going to fucking scream at the top of my lungs, because if one of these little turds hacked your little sister's computer, or wife's, or your mother's, and released photos and videos of them as spank material, you would be screaming bloody murder right now, but because it happened to someone who acts in the movies, well, then I guess they just deserved it.

        I am the fuck out of this pathetic excuse for a diary.  

        This revolution is not scheduled!

        by harrylimelives on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 01:17:05 AM PDT

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      •  I take issue (7+ / 0-)

        With this being described as "Someones childish PRANK."  

        No this was a violation of these peoples privacy.   A violation of a personal intimate nature.  It is a crime and should be treated in the serious manner it deserves.  Adult females sometimes take nude pictures of themselves.  Which they are free to legally do.  Unless they share them personally with you it remains their personal property.   Our laws need to catch up with the technology.

        I do think the patriotic thing to do is to critique my country. How else do you make a country better but by pointing out its flaws? Bill Maher

        by gtghawaii on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 02:55:47 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  Not a prank (7+ / 0-)

        Nobody has the right to come into my home and take pictures off the wall and carry them away, or go into my desk and remove pictures or documents, or even take pictures of these things. To do so would be criminal trespass and theft.

        What happened here is nothing less than this. It's not a prank, it's a crime.

        It doesn't matter how bad the locks on my door are (or even if I don't lock my door). No one (absent a court order, etc) has the right to enter into my property and remove or record what they find there.

        Same goes for a storage unit I rent, or a safe deposit box, or iCloud storage.

        That all said, when I rent a safe deposit box, I expect the bank to provide sufficient security to protect that box from unauthorized access. Failure on the part of the bank to meet industry standard norms should expose the bank to litigation in the event of loss.

        Could based storage providers should similarly enforce security access controls. 2 factor authentication, per device pass codes, pass code complexity, pass code rotation etc. These are all techniques that can (and should) be used in some combination to provide sufficient and reasonable hardening.

        A company that allows you as a user to create a pass code such as "password" or "123456" and provides public access is behaving in a criminally negligent fashion.

        Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them - Thomas Jefferson 30 July, 1816

        by Roiling Snake Ball on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 05:55:14 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  "It's a Crime".. (0+ / 0-)
          Nobody has the right to come into my home and take pictures off the wall and carry them away, or go into my desk and remove pictures or documents, or even take pictures of these things. To do so would be criminal trespass and theft.

          What happened here is nothing less than this.

          Agreed, but would you put nude photos of yourself, your girlfriend/boyfriend on the living room walls of your home? or would you put them somewhere secure where only you controlled access?

          it does appear Apple is negligent here, particularly the fact multiple guesses/attempts at entering passwords was allowed by the hacker.

          IF there is litigation over this, I can easily see the Apple's lawyers and likely the judge putting the onus for security on the users; as you state:

          2 factor authentication, per device pass codes, pass code complexity, pass code rotation etc. These are all techniques that can (and should) be used in some combination to provide sufficient and reasonable hardening.
          The lawyers are going to posit that users storing photo/info should have used the above measures to fully secure them. password complexity? Apple's lawyers are going to argue users are responsible for that.

          iCloud users claiming "I assumed my photos were secure".. I wonder how sympathetic the judge is going to be given the users didn't make the effort to truly secure them?

          "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

          by Superpole on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 06:49:50 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  There have been (0+ / 0-)

            nude photos of me hanging on the walls of my homes for decades.

            So, with respect to

            would you put nude photos of yourself, your girlfriend/boyfriend on the living room walls of your home? or would you put them somewhere secure where only you controlled access?
            the answer is "yes" and "yes". Would I want those photos circulating around the internet? Not really. I have an expectation of privacy with regards to the contents of my home as well as more "secure" locations.
            IF there is litigation over this, I can easily see the Apple's lawyers and likely the judge putting the onus for security on the users;
            I store items in a safe deposit box in a bank. I expect the bank to ensure that access to this box is adequately protected. I have a key to this box and I am responsible for that key, but the bank has the other half of this key and they are responsible for that half and ensuring that is is only presented under correct conditions.

            The bank is also expected to provide keys that are reasonably complex. The bank doesn't let me pick how good that key is.

            iCloud and any other online storage vendor should be held to similar expectations.

            Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them - Thomas Jefferson 30 July, 1816

            by Roiling Snake Ball on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 07:16:28 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  "Should be held to similar expectations" (0+ / 0-)

              Indeed; that is the operative phrase.

              I just don't think a judge is going to put all of the responsibility for security for, in this case, iCloud online storage, on Apple.

              There are thousands of examples of users suing for damages which are thrown out by a judge-- One that comes to mind is the guy who picked up his lawn mower and attempted to use it to trim a hedge.

              He ended up with the tips of his fingers cut off; he did not win his lawsuit.

              "We are beyond law, which is not unusual for an empire; unfortunately, we are also beyond common sense." Gore Vidal

              by Superpole on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 07:28:02 AM PDT

              [ Parent ]

  •  The anonymity of fascism... (1+ / 0-)

    "And now we know that government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob." -- FDR

    by Mogolori on Tue Sep 02, 2014 at 11:31:13 PM PDT

  •  "out there in the aether" (7+ / 0-)

    The feverish coverage this has gotten was pretty cute, until the 2nd hostage was beheaded by ISIS.

    Why do I feel like the entire world has just gone mad these last few months...

    "Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek." - Barack Obama

    by anshmishra on Tue Sep 02, 2014 at 11:45:45 PM PDT

  •  Would it be possible for you to edit in a descr... (2+ / 0-)

    Would it be possible

    for you to edit in a description of the video for those of us who can't view it for whatever reason? (and so we know if it's something we want to click on!)

  •  I'm so happy I had no idea about any of this (5+ / 0-)

    until you posted it.  But lately I've been engrossed in the religious philosophy of brooklynbadboy, the depraved anti-Semitism of David Harris Gershon, and the prose poetry of a certain anonymous ex-dragon.*

    Maybe I should start paying more attention to celebrity follies?

    (*yes, that's a triple snark)

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 03:14:50 AM PDT

  •  Change your s to a $... (1+ / 0-)

    Seriously?

    Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them - Thomas Jefferson 30 July, 1816

    by Roiling Snake Ball on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 05:36:45 AM PDT

  •  art imitates life (0+ / 0-)

    or life imitates art?

    This exchange sounds vaguely reminiscent of the trailer for the "Sex Tape" movie that came and went this summer without anyone actually, you know, paying to see it.

    "It's in the cloud!"

    "Then get it down from the cloud."

    No one knows how the cloud works!"

    The incident is certainly horrifying for those involved, but the recently announced Home Depot data breach affects many more people who did nothing dumber than buy duct tape or aluminum siding.  

    But CNN in a desperate attempt to appear relevant, focuses on the shiny object, even when they have no clue what they're saying.  They increasingly sound like a long-form version of "Texts from Mom."

    There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast.

    by puzzled on Wed Sep 03, 2014 at 06:57:32 AM PDT

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