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How high, Mitch? Maybe not quite that high
CNN and ORC International finally released their long-teased poll of Kentucky's Senate race, finding GOP Sen. Mitch McConnell up 50-46 on Democrat Alison Grimes. Rather notably, this is the first and only time McConnell's hit 50 percent in a public poll—ever. There's a good reason, too: CNN didn't bother to include Libertarian David Patterson in their questionnaire.

That's a fairly bizarre choice, given that Libertarians in general have been polling unusually well this cycle, and given that recent SurveyUSA and PPP polls have given Paterson 5 and 7 percent of the vote, respectively. Yes, Republicans are trying to knock Patterson off the ballot, but while Libertarians aren't particularly good at actually winning any elections, they usually are quite adept at securing ballot access for themselves.

And yes, Patterson is likely to wind up with a smaller share of the vote than he's getting now in other polls, but he can certainly have an impact on the race nevertheless, especially since he's liable to scoop up some anti-McConnell protest voters who would never pull the lever for a Democrat.

So CNN's poll simply isn't reflective of the choices Kentucky voters are likely to have before them in November, which means they aren't polling an actual election—just some hypothetical contest that doesn't exist. And in any event, there's no reason not to ask two versions of the horserace, one with Patterson and one without.

Some analysts fetishize independent polls over partisan ones, but what matters is the overall quality of the survey, an assessment that involves many criteria. And sometimes, it's as simple as making sure you ask the right questions. CNN didn't do that here, offering a good example of why it makes no sense to prize non-partisanship above all else.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Elections on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:06 AM PDT.

Also republished by My Old Kentucky Kos and Daily Kos.

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  •  My gut tells me he wins in a squeaker (5+ / 0-)

    My gut:

    Nunn wins in GA by 3-4 pts
    Landrieua and Pryor barely hold on
    Begich holds on
    Alison comes close but Mitch holds on
    and
    Roberts loses in KS

    •  Kentucky ought to be very close, therefore hard to (11+ / 0-)

      predict.
         But I wouldn't bet on McConnell in this one.

      "We the People of the United States...." -U.S. Constitution

      by elwior on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:15:54 AM PDT

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    •  OK, well, that's the optimisttic view... (5+ / 0-)

      Now for MY view:

      We won't be winning KY, GA or KS senate seats. Those are deep red states...and this is a midterm election, where the GOP has had great success getting its people to the polls. The enthusiasm gap has not closed, IMO, and for our side to have ANY chance in those states, we need near-historic turnout. I just don't see it.

      As for the other states:

      LA: She is all but cooked with everything that has come out recently just weeks before the election. Sorry, but it's the truth folks. Mary Landrieu basically wrote the GOP ads against her for the next 2 months.

      AK: That was a STUPID ad for Begich to run. He took what was a lean Dem seat and made it a toss-up...and there hasn't been a poll showing him in the lead there in over a month.

      AR: I think this one comes down the wire. It wouldn't surprise me if it has a recount when the smoke clears...regardless of who wins.

      WV, SD and MT: Lost already

      IA: See the AR result...razor-tight...could go either way.

      NC: See AR and IA...same thing.

      Let's assume the best-case scenario based on my analysis: We win the razor-close races in AK, AR, NC and IA. That means we lose 4 seats, but keep the senate.

      My prediction as of today? The senate will be lost if things remain as they are. We could easily lose any of the following seats: LA, AK, AR, IA and NC. The GOP only needs to snag three of those to control the senate...and with Angus King waffling on who he will caucus with, it could be a 52-48 GOP senate come next Jan.

      Bottom-line: We need to GOTV, or the next two years this country will be a dark, dark place.

      If my wife and kids were stuck in a sewer country, I would break down the gates of hell and burn there to clear a path for my wife and babies to a place like America...immigration policies be damned.

      by Love Me Slender on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:32:25 AM PDT

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      •  GA's not deep-red (3+ / 0-)
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        But, as a Georgian, I'm not convinced it'll be purple this mid-term election - probably more likely to be a light pink (reddish purple?).

        Georgia's got two great candidates on the ticket, though, and Perdue doesn't seem to offer anything other than generic-Republican-businessman.  Nunn's doing everything she can to make herself attractive to conservadems/moderate Republicans in the state, in a calculated gamble that the left will be forced to come along.

        I'm not making any bets at this time, other than it's going to be damn close.

        •  RE light pink (reddish purple?) (0+ / 0-)

          Fuchsia.

          Debating with a conservative is like cleaning up your dog's vomit: It is an inevitable consequence of your association, he isn't much help, and it makes very clear the fact that he will swallow anything.

          by David Franks on Fri Sep 05, 2014 at 01:39:59 PM PDT

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      •  oh good (5+ / 0-)
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        kefauver, Matt Z, howarddream, Jacob1145, askew

        was wondering where I could go for the GOP spin, so hard to find these days.  

        you can shit on my face but that doesn't mean I have to lick my lips

        by red rabbit on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 09:41:10 AM PDT

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      •  Are you aware of what just went down in KS? (6+ / 0-)

        See this diary:

        Game Change

        America is a COUNTRY, not a CORPORATION. She doesn't need a CEO. Vote Obama.

        by manneckdesign on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 09:55:18 AM PDT

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      •  now for my view (2+ / 0-)
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        The Nose, Quabbin

        Love me Slender, if Kentucky is sooo DEEP RED, please explain to me why my state congressman is a democrat and my governor is a 2 term democrat.  I hear the media say this ky can vote only red all the time, but they clearly don't spend time here.

        p.s.  Also take note that Kentucky does not consist of only Appalachia or only coal.  I think there are now only something like 10,000 coal workers.  I suspect if someone checked, we have a lot more auto parts manufacturers.  Also Ag, including the most beef cattle East of the Mississippi.  

        Perceptions of Kentucky are stuck in a time warp.  I've got a pair of shoes .... somewhere.

        Mitch McConnell doesn't care about coal workers, despite what he says.  He cares about coal company owners.  Big difference.  Hence the coal unions have endorsed Grimes.

        •  McConnell vs Grimes (1+ / 0-)
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          user23

          SO happy to see your comment! I live in CA but have sent, every few weeks $10-20 to Grimes campaign (It may not match the Cocks BUT LOTS of little donations sure add up!).
          I want that turd Mitch O U T!  WHAT a disgrace.

          •  McConnell is a disgrace (0+ / 0-)

            and I want him out to.  When I heard him say his only purpose was to keep Obama from getting reelected, I was sickened.  This man was PROUD to say that.  Not my idea of a Senator's duties.

            Thank you for your contributions.  I am positive they help.  I believe McConnell is planning on winning by literally buying the election.  I do not think he could win any other way.
            Alison Grimes has much more to offer Kentucky and the Country.  Whether she will survive the barage of Republican money is the question I believe.

            I sent in my own contribution the other day.  The most I've ever done for a candidate, but it is small compared to most I am sure.  But Grimes has done well on fundraising so they do make a difference.

            Truly, I thank you and all the others like you jtjsrch.

      •  You appear to have ignored something (0+ / 0-)

        in your comparison to 2010: Obamacare. It is changing lives for the better in Kentucky.

        Debating with a conservative is like cleaning up your dog's vomit: It is an inevitable consequence of your association, he isn't much help, and it makes very clear the fact that he will swallow anything.

        by David Franks on Fri Sep 05, 2014 at 01:46:00 PM PDT

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    •  If you can't get 50.1, do you really win? With (0+ / 0-)

      a third party candidate, it means that the majority of voters voted against you.

      It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

      by auapplemac on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 10:28:21 AM PDT

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      •  We have a "winner take all" system (0+ / 0-)

        What that means is that whoever gets the most votes wins. They are not required to have a majority. A couple of states have runoff elections that narrow the final choice down to two candidates. But every other state has one single election and whichever candidate gets the most votes wins.

        That is the primary reason why 3rd party dreamers are kidding themselves. If you put up two candidates who are more or less equivalent (at least to people who don't eat and breathe politics like those of us who post on comment boards) then what you get is the other candidate winning even if they only got 34% of the vote. When you have ten candidates running then the winner could have only got 11% of the vote. If we push 3rd parties, and if they were successful, we would wind up empowering parties who can only attract a tiny fraction of the vote. This gives power to neo-Nazi groups and so forth.

        If we were to have a parliamentary system then 3rd parties would be the rule of the day. But in our single-member-district, winner-take-all system, they are very counterproductive. The race in KY, for example, would be much, much harder if there wasn't a libertarian sucking away votes from McConnell. This plays to our advantage in the same way that Nader played to the GOP advantage in 2000.

  •  Typical CNN (9+ / 0-)

    They are a tool.

    Thanks for the heads up.

    And these ORC guys I question too.

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    by Shockwave on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:16:18 AM PDT

  •  No way Patterson doesn't pull at least 5% (5+ / 0-)
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    The only question is whether he pulls it from Grimes or McConnell, or brings in people who normally wouldn't be voting.

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    by Phoenix Woman on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:22:13 AM PDT

    •  i suspect people who ordinarily don't vote in (2+ / 0-)
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      Theodore J Pickle, Phoenix Woman

      mid-terms aren't very likely to suddenly get a wild hair, go tearing up to their voting station, and vote, just because Patterson is on the ballot. seriously, how fast do you think those hoverrounds can go?

      he'll probably pull in 4-6%, mostly from McConnell. remember, we're talking about "independent" voters here. you know, republicans. they were never going to vote for grimes to begin with. absent Patterson, they don't bother voting at all.

  •  I don't trust polls. (1+ / 0-)
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    TofG

    They are always set up, and executed in such a way as to  favor the political leanings of one group or the other...
    In other words, to generate campaign contributions, and sway elections.

    "These 'Yet To Be' United States" --James Baldwin-- -6.75, -5.78

    by kevinbr38 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:27:16 AM PDT

    •  The generic ballot is pretty much where it was... (0+ / 0-)

      ...before 2010...which means we have our work cut out for us.

      If my wife and kids were stuck in a sewer country, I would break down the gates of hell and burn there to clear a path for my wife and babies to a place like America...immigration policies be damned.

      by Love Me Slender on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:35:31 AM PDT

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    •  They aren't always done that way (0+ / 0-)

      Some polling firms do use questionable tactics, trying to provide a partisan advantage to whoever is paying them. There are sound strategic reasons for doing so (even if morally bankrupt).

      Most polls aren't "faked". Some are, and they are usually obviously so. Some are poorly put together. CNN seems more interested in having a poll that doesn't reflect all the other polls than producing an accurate poll. By having an outlier poll, they can pretend to be relevant and maybe get more viewers (they could also improve programming but that would require work).

      Since I started studying polls after taking a couple advanced political science courses I've noticed a couple of things about bad polling. Mostly, what I've noticed is that WSJ polls tend to favor republicans. Also, there is a well documented "Reuters Bump" that puts a republican 2 points higher than in any other poll done on the same day covering the same population.

  •  We hate that little creep, but Ma sez to vote (6+ / 0-)

    fer him anyway, or theyll round up all the white folks and ship em to FEMA camps.

  •  There lies a problem though... Most people don'... (1+ / 0-)
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    NoBlueSkies

    There lies a problem though... Most people don't cast their lot with Libertarian values anymore partly because of people like Cliven Bundy who recently declared himself a Libertarian, Libertarians have fallen from being middle ground independent voters, too being out right fascists with huge sympathy towards the Tea party Though it's hidden behind a vale of both sides as corrupted equally nonsense that makes up their political view point...

    •  If our hopes hinge on Libertarian turnout... (2+ / 0-)
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      DROzone, auapplemac

      ...then we're screwed.

      If my wife and kids were stuck in a sewer country, I would break down the gates of hell and burn there to clear a path for my wife and babies to a place like America...immigration policies be damned.

      by Love Me Slender on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:38:20 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  all is lost (6+ / 0-)

        wet your pants and surrender already.  Seriously, I wouldn't want such a negative defeatist working for any campaign.  

        you can shit on my face but that doesn't mean I have to lick my lips

        by red rabbit on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 09:43:10 AM PDT

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        •  Silly rabbit, insults are for the weak... (0+ / 0-)

          When you have nothing else to offer but insults and baseless optimism, you surrender the argument.

          Our side is tossing Hail Mary passes while the opposition is gaining 8 yards a rush.

          But by all means, please proceed...and watch the senate go GOP.

          Instead of celebrating "teh stoopid", get people motivated to vote.

          If my wife and kids were stuck in a sewer country, I would break down the gates of hell and burn there to clear a path for my wife and babies to a place like America...immigration policies be damned.

          by Love Me Slender on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 03:23:52 PM PDT

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    •  Libertarians have always had the same values (0+ / 0-)

      they have today. Its just that most people didn't notice. If you take some classes in economics and then read libertarian policy prescriptions you will see that if they got their way there would be a monopolist in every industry and zero competition between firms. Which is supposed to be the exact opposite of capitalism which they claim to worship. Their own solutions are counter to what they claim to be their ideal. Which means they are either crazy or are lying about what their goals are.

  •  Got an e-mail from Grimes campaign yesterday about (8+ / 0-)

    the CNN poll. I thought it was going to be a freak out e-mail to raise more money but even her campaign said that the poll shows her neck and neck with McConnell so even they don't believe he has the lead. They know it's anyone's race.

    Funny Stuff at http://www.funnyordie.com/oresmas

    by poopdogcomedy on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 08:40:24 AM PDT

  •  Further evidence of the pathetic nature of CNN and (5+ / 0-)

    McConnell. He will not win this race. Period.

  •  McConnell audio (2+ / 0-)
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    NoBlueSkies, BRog

    What about the McConnell audio where he talked about shutting the government down?  Do KY voters not know about that story yet?  Or is the story not resonating with them?

    •  You forget that their are plenty of Rs who like (1+ / 0-)
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      DROzone

      the fact that the gov was shutdown. To them that means the gov is not spending any more money.

      It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

      by auapplemac on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 10:35:15 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  The reason they did this should be obvious: (6+ / 0-)

    They want to project optimism that the turtle will survive this.

    My prediction: he won't!

    It's all in the Get Out The Vote, and many Dems are VERY motivated! We're SICK of that guy dicking with us.

    Change the charter of corporations to serve the public interest BEFORE fiduciary concerns. 100% of Republicans and HALF the Dems are AGAINST We The People. We need TRUE Progressives, NOT Republican-Lite Dems - like Hillary, Pelosi, Feinstein...

    by RTIII on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 09:04:55 AM PDT

  •  Grimes is a really good candidate (5+ / 0-)
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    and has run a very good campaign. Mitch is not very popular. She is going to get a second look in October and should close the gap. Not sure whether it will be good enough.  

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    by khyber900 on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 09:21:57 AM PDT

    •  right about McConnell's popularity (3+ / 0-)
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      even Republicans don't seem particulary enthusiastic, especially Rand Paul supporters.  I think that libertarian candidate could really be the difference, and the supposed libertarians are usually disaffected or embarrassed Repubs, so I don't see him pulling much from Grimes.

      you can shit on my face but that doesn't mean I have to lick my lips

      by red rabbit on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 09:46:45 AM PDT

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      •  look at McConnell's former campaign manager (0+ / 0-)

        if he's representative of other Paul supporters, then they probably aren't enthusiastic about McConnell.  I don't think Paul himself is too enthusiastic about Mitch.  I doubt that they would go so far as to vote for a Dem, but if they have the option of voting for a libertarian, then I could easily see them pulling enough votes away from McConnell for Grimes to win.  

        you can shit on my face but that doesn't mean I have to lick my lips

        by red rabbit on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 09:51:32 AM PDT

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        •  I wonder if Rand Paul sees Alison Lundergan-Grimes (1+ / 0-)
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          Maggiemad

          ...as his possible road to the 2016 presidency?  He's getting absolutely no where as the junior Senator from Kentucky tied to McConnell's obstructionist apron strings.

          If AL-G was elected, Rand Paul would then be the senior Senator from Kentucky, with an opportunity to shift his platform back to right-center-libertarian and portray himself as AL-G's "mentor" (ha, ha).  

          That in itself might lessen the influence of the RWNJ Tea Partiers in Congress.  Don't forget, Ted Cruz would MUCH rather be a Supreme Court justice than president.  He'd have to work too hard as president (which is why Sarah Palin will never be more than an anklebiter on the sidelines).

      •  Do you think they want to lose the power of the (0+ / 0-)

        Minority Leader, who if all goes their way, may be the Majority Leader?

        It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

        by auapplemac on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 10:36:38 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I don't think other Republicans care... (0+ / 0-)

          There are plenty of other senior RWNJ Senators who could take McConnell's place when it comes to obstructionism and abusing the power of the filibuster.

          Like I said above, Rand Paul would benefit greatly if McConnell were ousted.

  •  As I say every electin cycle (3+ / 0-)

    you have to look into who is doing the polllng here.

    I wouldn't trust a CNN poll to wipe my ass with.

    Most of them are farmed out to huge companies for the guts of the work.

    There is a team of professionals who do the polling work for most polls today!

    And they ask the wrong questions to ensure they get the answer they can twist to say exactly what they want the outcome to reflect.

    McConnell is toast!

    Im actually seriously considering relocating there to make sure he is burned sufficiently so that he is  tossed to the chickens ..

    If you're not terrified into action by the IPCC's 5th Assessment , you're not human.

    by boatsie on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 09:25:57 AM PDT

  •  You guys at DKOS never fail to make (0+ / 0-)

    me wince with your almost-daily photos of Mitch McConnell. Damn, he's a sight to make eyes sore!

    •  Speaking of eyes, (0+ / 0-)

      Is it just me, or in that photo of McConnell at the top of this article, are his eyes actually focussing on two different things, perhaps just not in focus at all???  The right one looks a tad "off".

      •  Chameleon (0+ / 0-)

        Mitch McConnell has a reptilian ability to move each eye independently of the other. This trait is largely responsible for his decades of survival in the political arena, not to mention his uncanny ability to catch flies with a lightning flick of his forked tongue.

  •  Where's Nate Silver when ya need him? (0+ / 0-)

    Have we already forgotten the polls in September and October of 2012 which showed Romney even or slightly ahead of President Obama?

    "What are we afraid of, and why are we holding back, when nobody's gonna listen to this shit anyway?" -- magic mitch

    by oldmaestro on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 10:58:37 AM PDT

    •  I have called them on this many times here and ... (0+ / 0-)

      I have called them on this many times here and almost every time the whole article was full of deafest Democrats who were crying give it up... Or saying the GOP was smart, then the next day the entire post was gone... Has happened 6 times sense I started posting.. I say we all sign up at Obamas force for change sites and do what we did too get him elected 2 times unite or fall...

    •  Nate Silver favors McConnell over Grimes. (1+ / 0-)
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      oldmaestro

      The Turtle leads, not by much, but along with other factors Silver gives odds are 80:20 that he'll win re-election.

  •  So CNN released an imaginary poll, or a GOP wis... (1+ / 0-)
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    cybersaur

    So CNN released an imaginary poll, or a GOP wish list. CNN needs to start over, they've gotten almost to Fox level in the accuracy department. Fire everybody - EVERYBODY - CNN, and hire some real journalists.

    •  Good idea in theory (0+ / 0-)

      Unfortunately, CNN is rotting from the top down. It's the dumbfucks making the hiring decisions that are the problem.  
      Does the Drudge Report have a Help Wanted section? I'm pretty sure worshiping at the altar of Drudge is a prerequisite for CNN employment. Seems to be where they get all their bubble-headed news talkers.

      +++ The law is a weapon used to bludgeon us peasants into submission. It is not to be applied to the monied elite.

      by cybersaur on Thu Sep 04, 2014 at 01:06:24 PM PDT

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  •  30% of Mitch's votes are Christian zealot votes (1+ / 0-)
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    Maggiemad

    All polls, election news reports, should contain a disclaimer on this zombie effect. Otherwise they mislead Americans by indicating the GOP wins elections by a vote of the people.

    The US ranks 138th out of all 169 voting countries in actual voting. Since 1974, mid-term % of eligible voters who vote avgs. 37%. Democrats would dominate if they did one thing- GOTV. They never do. Curious.

    by Incredulousinusa on Fri Sep 05, 2014 at 06:57:15 AM PDT

    •  If the Democrats get off their "duffs,"a (3+ / 0-)
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      The Nose, Maggiemad, Incredulousinusa

      and vote, Mitch will lose. Maybe he will not lose by much, but he will lose. Sadly, in his area there are many low information voters who love FOX, or as I call it FAUX News Channel, and those same low info voters love Limbaugh, aka Limburger, and the Fox team and Rushbo spew out lies faster than Mickey D's turns out burgers.

      •  If the DNC registers and GOTV in KY, MI, WI, etc. (0+ / 0-)

        and the candidates keep the message simple and loud; something like, "The GOP will take SS and Medicare from your family and from you". Then play tapes of Bush telling us how good that was, just before the Stock Market took a dive. Paul Ryan was spouting off about it, too. Then Mitt and his 47% remark. Genius.  
        They have to do better than 40% of eligible voters voting. That is the key. You are right. A lot of Democrats just give it to them by staying home, never getting registered, etc. Stupid. Sad. Frustrating to watch the outcome. Good luck wherever you are.

        The US ranks 138th out of all 169 voting countries in actual voting. Since 1974, mid-term % of eligible voters who vote avgs. 37%. Democrats would dominate if they did one thing- GOTV. They never do. Curious.

        by Incredulousinusa on Fri Sep 05, 2014 at 07:27:17 PM PDT

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  •  It is apparent (1+ / 0-)
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    Maggiemad

    that CNN is trying to get Mitch reelected. Since CNN is up for sale I wonder if the owner of FAUX has anything to do with their poll.

  •  One reason not to trust polls (2+ / 0-)
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    Maggiemad, dewolf99

    I get at least three calls a week, both robo and human, during election seasons. I realized a few years ago that by truthfully answering, I was giving the opposition party useful information and aiding their strategizing. So....I vary my persona. In the last few weeks, I've been a 35 year old male independent who seems to know nothing about nothing, an 80 year old liberal Democrat who always votes, and a sixty year old male Conservative Republican who always votes. In the past, I've been Libertarian, many different ages, both sexes (I haven't ventured into LGBT territory because nobody asks that) and, in a couple of instances, borderline psychotic. I am presuming that the pollsters do edit for wild inconsistencies so my fictional voters probably get thrown out of the results a lot of the time but---don't trust them polls. It might be me!

  •  I Don't Trust (0+ / 0-)

    any U.S. media. I read foreign newspapers, magazines and periodicals to ascertain the truth as it pertains to anything happening in the U.S.

    "It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the deserving underprivileged and less fortunate among us."

    by sichuan on Sat Sep 06, 2014 at 09:03:10 AM PDT

  •  Race to the bottom (0+ / 0-)

    It seems to me lately that CNN is totally rolling down hill trying their best to catch Fixed News for worst network and least knowledgable anchors. CNN no doubt wrote out their TelePrompTer story before doing this poll.

    I truly did not realize how bad they were until I started to watch their ISIS coverage and some of their obsession with Ferguson. I'll put it this way their intellectual ability to understand what is Breaking News says all you need to know. A man bites dog story is good enough for Wolf to play his music and call it breaking news!!

    The rest of the anchors with the sole exceptions of Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon barely have a clue as to what the heck they are talking about. So a poll about McConnell has little weight and I truly think it is a toss up like all the other 50 Polls done show. But heck they did a poll so let's play that music duh..duh.da DA Breaking News..this just in to the Situation room....

  •  Ha, ha! (0+ / 0-)

    "CNN didn't do that here, offering a good example of why it makes no sense to prize non-partisanship above all else."

    Watching CNN for five minutes proves that it makes no sense to prize non-partisanship above all else. They go out of their way to be as boring as possible and to attach themselves to non-stories that have no political ramifications. Like the missing plane they covered for a month straight while ignoring all other stories.

  •  Man (0+ / 0-)

    After chasing the money, some are said to be buried face down, as if they were pushed out, so that they may return with a grudge, or nasty stench, or both. Don't know if that applies to heroic McConnell, who is saving his money, of course, but hey.

    Snark just wants a friend. POW!!!!

    by RKiddo on Sun Sep 07, 2014 at 04:30:34 PM PDT

  •  NM (0+ / 0-)

    Nevermind, he's clearly a used cog rotating by dreams of yesterday's money and how easy that was. Put him on an Old Maid card, he definitely belongs on one, sad to say.

    Snark just wants a friend. POW!!!!

    by RKiddo on Sun Sep 07, 2014 at 04:37:22 PM PDT

  •  A poll not asking the right questions?... (0+ / 0-)

    ...because they are trying to shape a narrative by skewing the results in order to influence voters?

    Yeah, that NEVER happens.

    Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. -Frank Zappa

    by FactsPrevail on Sun Sep 07, 2014 at 07:01:30 PM PDT

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