House Bailout, Take 2: The Vote
by David Waldman
Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 09:39:15 AM PDT
The vote approaches. I count nine switchers moving to "Hafta," and one moving to "Nuh-uh." That would bring the vote to 212 in favor. They'll need another half dozen or so to pass it, but the trend is pretty clear. Not too many people are moving away from the bill.
So far, I've got 38 Ds in favor, 7 opposed. 16-13 among Rs. If that's reflective of where the Republicans are, it looks like they'll deliver the bare minimum number of votes required of them to pass this.
Again, there's no reason to believe that the breakdown of speakers is broadly indicative of where the entire Democratic and Republican caucuses are, but if that were the case, we'd be looking at about 195 Democratic votes in favor. I can't believe, though, that the Republicans will come up with over 100 votes, which is what the numbers indicated by the speakers would come out to. 195 Dems would be on the high side, too, after getting only 140 on Monday.
With seven Dem "no" votes from Monday showing up to say no again today, and five former Dem "no" votes switching, that'd translate to about 39 Dem votes switching. Add those to the 140 from Monday and you're nearly at 180. But I'm guessing that the the Dem "no" votes mostly stayed away from the floor today.
12:56 p.m. EDT. Pelosi takes the floor, and the Republicans take out their hankies and prepare to rend their garments and wail.
Note the special courtesy. Pelosi was yielded one minute. Five have elapsed. Boehner got it on Monday, too. I didn't notice how much time he was yielded today, though. I went back and looked. He was yielded one minute, too. And also took about five. Just for the record.
Here's one I missed from earlier in the debate, thanks to Jon DeVore at Horse's Ass:
A wee bit ago on C-SPAN
by Jon DeVore, 10/03/2008, 9:17 AMRep. Steven C. LaTourette, R-Ohio, angrily denouncing the Drunken Sailor Bailout Act of 2008 (my words, not his) by mentioning, among other things, that the bill provides a rum tax payment to Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands in the amount of about $192 million over ten years:
At least we have the pirate vote.
So that would not be an "aye" I’m guessing.
1:08 p.m. EDT. And the vote is on.
As the 15 minutes allotted for the vote expires, the tally is 226-143 in favor. The bill passes, and applause and whistles go up on the floor.
144 Dems vote yea, 52 nay. 82 Rs vote yea, 91 nay.
65 votes still outstanding -- 39 D and 26 R.
1:24 p.m. EDT. The yea votes pass 250, but voting is still open.
Final totals:
263-171
D 172-63
R 91-108
Interestingly, the extrapolation from the floor speeches wasn't all that far off. Skewed a bit in favor of the leadership positions, but that's to be expected.
FINAL UPDATE (I think): Now on to an unemployment benefits extension bill. How many Republican Members who voted for the bailout, saying it was about Main Street and not Wall Street, will now vote against this?
ONE MORE UPDATE: The roll call on the vote. Sole "Team I Dunno" member Sheila Jackson Lee voted yes.
Here's our running tally so far:
Team Hafta
Jim Wilson (R-SC) -- I think. Cryptic "one minute" to start the day.
Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)
Steve Cohen (D-TN)
Jim McGovern (D-MA)
Hilda Solis (D-CA)
Doris Matsui (D-CA)
Phil Hare (D-IL)
Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
Louise Slaughter (D-NY)
Charlie Rangel (D-NY)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Howard Coble (R-NC)
Richard Neal (D-MA)
Dave Camp (R-MI)
John Tanner (D-TN) -- but with strong objections to the lack of offsets
Zach Wamp (R-TN)
John Lewis (D-GA)
Kevin Brady (R-TX)
Ron Kind (D-WI)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Jim McCrery (R-LA)
Joseph Crowley (D-NY)
Barney Frank (D-MA)
Gresham Barrett (R-SC)
Jim Moran (D-VA)
Tom Cole (R-OK)
Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
Jim Marshall (D-GA)
Judy Biggert (R-IL)
David Scott (D-GA)
Danny Davis (D-IL)
John Dingell (D-MI) -- love how he just blows by the procedural pronouncements of the chair and delivers his remarks right over them
Gary Miller (R-CA)
Ed Perlmutter (D-CO) -- he doesn't actually say so, but he was a yes on Monday, and you don't enter into a colloquy with Barney Frank if you're not in agreement with him. You just don't.
Chris Shays (R-CT)
Paul Kanjorski (D-PA)
Paul Ryan (R-WI)
David Obey (D-WI)
Jerry Nadler (D-NY)
Donna Edwards (D-MD)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-TX)
Gwen Moore (D-WI)
Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Dan Lungren (R-CA)
Barbara Lee (D-CA) -- who says that Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) is joining her by associating himself with her remarks -- both, then, are switching.
Jim Clyburn (D-SC)
Chip Pickering (R-MS) -- CSPAN says he voted no on Monday, but that's not what the Clerk's office says. They have him as an aye vote.
Chaka Fattah (D-PA)
Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
John Spratt (D-SC)
Steny Hoyer (D-MD)
John Boehner (R-OH)
Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Team Nuh-Uh
Virginia Foxx (R-NC)
Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Phil Gingrey (R-GA)
Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
Tom Latham (R-IA)
Joe Barton (R-TX)
Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)
Mike Pence (R-IN)
Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Peter DeFazio (D-OR)
Steve LaTourette (R-OH) -- sees the futility of the tranching
David Dreier (R-CA)
Pete Stark (D-CA)
Devin Nunes (R-CA) -- that is one seriously obscure Member
Earl Blumenauer (D-OR)
Jeb Hensarling (R-TX)
Scott Garrett (R-NJ)
Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO)
Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL)
Ron Paul (R-TX)
Team I Dunno
Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) -- supporting the rule
Team Won't Say Out Loud
Jim McCrery (R-LA) -- voted for the Monday version, though, so probably a Hafta
Switchers
Howard Coble (R-NC)
Zach Wamp (R-TN)
John Lewis (D-GA)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Gresham Barrett (R-SC)
Judy Biggert (R-IL)
David Scott (D-GA)
David Dreier (R-CA)
Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)
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