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McCain Gaffes Finally Getting Attention

Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 04:36:37 PM PDT

McCains many gaffes have finally been getting attention in CBSNEWS and in Politico.com.
Critics Pile On As McCain Gaffes Pile Up: Verbal Blunders Bring New Attention To Sensitive Issue Of His Age
by Politico.com and Repeated in CBSNews sums it up nicely.

Do these consistent gaffes reflect poorly on America?

McCain said "Iraq" when he apparently meant "Afghanistan" on Monday, adding to a string of mixed-up word choices that is giving ammunition to the opposition.
Just in the past three weeks, McCain has mixed up Iraq and Afghanistan, Somalia and Sudan, and even football’s Packers and Steelers.
Ironically, the errors have been concentrated in what should be his area of expertise - foreign affairs.

Poll

McCain's Gaffes Show:

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| 203 votes | Vote | Results

On the Iraqi/Pakistani border

Tue Jul 22, 2008 at 07:47:56 AM PDT

My father regarded me intensely. He wanted something, and I just wasn't getting it.

"The record," he said. "It won't work."

We were standing in his driveway. I'd just got out of my car, and he rushed out of the house to greet me and get my help right away. The only problem was, I hadn't a clue as to what he wanted. He had an extensive record collection -- vinyl going back to the 1940s with an emphasis on Ella Fitzgerald and the Dorsey brothers. But there's little or nothing I would be able to help him regarding that.

So, we started the "20 questions" routine. That always left him deeply frustrated.

It's Not That McCain Is Too Old, His Ideas Are Too Old

Mon Jul 14, 2008 at 05:38:39 AM PDT

From the Wash Post:

A significant slice of the electorate has qualms about McCain's age. The presumed Republican nominee will celebrate his 72nd birthday shortly before his party's convention. Polls show the age question isn't going away, despite the Arizona senator's efforts to deflect it with self-deprecating humor, or disprove it by keeping a grueling schedule.

"Sure, people live to be 90, but you are not as sharp," said Virginia Bailey, 73, a retired administrative assistant who lives near Schenectady, N.Y., and is a Republican. "I'm not as sharp as I was ten years ago, and I'm sure (McCain) isn't either _ even though he wouldn't admit it."...

The age issue is "clearly a potential problem" for McCain, said independent pollster Andrew Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center. "There is a larger issue of whether people will come to see him as old apart from his age," Kohut added. "Will they think of him as having old ideas?"

"I can't vote for John McCain"

Sat Jul 12, 2008 at 06:10:25 AM PDT

Since I work for a county organization in a highly Republican area, my most passionate political discussions tend to be with like-minded coworkers. Though I rarely let a chance go by without some comment, I tend to be diplomatic and emphasize the hole we're in, rather than who put us there.

I let people draw their own conclusions.

A friend of mine has been genuinely conflicted over her choices this Presidential campaign season. She liked Clinton, especially since she is our NY State Senator and has done good things for the area.

But Barack Obama... she said, "There's something about him I just can't feel comfortable with."

(It would not be diplomatic at this point to discuss any racial issues. I don't think she is racist, at all. But we're one of those areas where the African American segment is like 1%.) I explained why I liked Obama, and suggested she see what he says on his website, especially listening to his speeches.

But it wasn't what Obama did that let her make up her mind. It's what McCain did.

To the Flipmobile!

New Poll: Americans are 3 times more leary of McCain's Age than Obama's Race

Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 10:19:59 PM PDT

I think the dynamic this new poll points to will clinch it for Obama in November:

Poll: McCain's age more of an issue than Obama's race

CNN) — John McCain may be hindered more by his age than Barack Obama will be by his race as the two men vie for the White House, a new USA Today/Gallup poll suggests.

According to the new poll, 23 percent of Americans say McCain's age — he'll turn 72 next month — is likely to make him a less effective president were he to win the White House. That compares to only 8 percent who said Obama's race would make him a less effective president.

Overall, more than 8 in 10 Americans said Obama's race would make no difference in his effectiveness in the White House while 65 percent said the same about McCain's age.

Being 54, I can remember the Reagan years. I can remember having a doddering old fool for our president. The whole country was witness to the beginnings of Reagan's decent into Dementia. Look at Figure #1 in this PDF File. Scary stats. Americans have good reason to worry about McCain's age.

More Facts About McCain's Age? Why the Heck not?

Mon Jul 07, 2008 at 10:44:00 PM PDT

With 19 percent of the public associating John McCain with "old," I thought it was important to write a serious, substantive diary about some little known facts regarding the age of the 71 year old Republican Presumptive Nominee. ;)

Poll

John McCain is older than...

4%2 votes
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9%4 votes
46%19 votes
4%2 votes
34%14 votes

| 41 votes | Vote | Results

Race is not a Presidential qualification.

Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 10:09:15 PM PDT

You can't be too Black, to be President.
You can't be too White, to be President.

Gender is not a Presidential qualification.

You can't be too female, to be President.
You can't be too male, to be President.

Ageism or reality?

Wed Jun 18, 2008 at 09:40:08 AM PDT

It seems that the McCain campaign is getting a bit cantankerous.  They don’t like anyone saying that John McCain is old.  And they don’t like anyone implying he’s old.  In fact, they don’t like it if they think that someone might be hinting that he’s old:

As some Republicans see it, Democrats are deliberately talking in code about the presumptive 71-year-old GOP nominee as part of an attempt to highlight his age.

"It is code; there is no question it is," [said] Ed Rollins.

First, let’s pause for a moment and ponder the hypocrisy of Republicans whining about using code words to create doubt or fear for political gain.  And now that you’re done laughing, who is the McCain campaign trying to kid?  John McCain has no problem mentioning his age in a self-deprecating, ah shucks, kind of way when he thinks it’s to his advantage, but he’s going to be outraged that people are talking "in code" about his age?   Because he certainly doesn’t seem to have a problem using age as an issue

"I admire and respect Senator Obama," Mr. McCain said, his voice full of sarcasm. "For a young man with very little experience, he’s done very well."

He went on: "For his very, very great lack of experience and knowledge of the issues, he’s been very successful. So don’t get me wrong, I admire and respect Senator Obama, but he does not have the knowledge background or judgment to lead this nation in these difficult and challenging times and I do, and I can keep this nation prosperous and secure."

Or is it okay if you simply skip the code?  And then there’s the pseudo-outrage, such as when McCain was "obviously disappointed" that John Kerry would insult his age by calling him "confused" about Sunnis and Shiites.  Given that McCain has said on three separate occasions that Iran is training Sunnis to fight in Iraq, McCain should be grateful that Kerry went with confused rather than calling him either stupid or a liar. Calling him confused was a kindness, not a slur.

While some might want to make McCain's age and less than stellar health an issue, the real problem is that his ideas are old. From running a campaign that can’t master the google, to vowing to continue the failed policies of the last eight years, John McCain is living in the past and that fact is a valid campaign issue.  And Democrats can’t fall into the trap of censoring their language because the McCain campaign complains about supposed code words. Saying that McCain has lost his bearings, lost his mind, or that he can't remember what he said last week isn't a slur against his age, it's reality.    

Are the Democrats using age, and is it fair?

Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 09:34:31 PM PDT

All this talk about saying McCain is confused and out of touch are they code words for he is getting old? Is he too old? Is it fair to use his age against him?
Why not, he is 72 years old, and at 72 years old, he is very tied to another generation, and the ways of that generation. I have known 72 years old who are young at heart, and if you talked to them on the telephone or corresponded with them, without actually physically seeing them, you wouldn't guess they were 72 years old. John McCain is not one of those people.

There They Go Again -- Pundits Using Political Party's Talking Points

Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 06:00:00 PM PDT

There they go again...

The political pundits are zeroing in on specific words of Democrats and accusing them (they are probably using John McCain's talking points memo) of pointing out John McCain's 'age' by using them.

Tonight Chris Matthews of Hardball jumped on the word CONFUSED.  Many Obama supporters used the word to describe McCain after his comment about it "not being important" whether troops come home or not.

"McCain's Brain"

Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 05:15:57 PM PDT

is a June 11, 2008 article on Slate by Christopher Beam. Go read it and put it out to your friends via email. Why, because it states a very important and obvious and true set of facts about the aging brain. [I know, I have one of my own!]

http://www.slate.com/...

Attacking age?

Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:58:14 PM PDT

The recent response of the Obama campaign to John McCain's recent comments on Iraq--that he is "confused," "oblivious," and "losing his bearings" among other things--is being discussed as a veiled attack on his age. But this thinking is backwards, as I will explain.

Age is a category that is sensitive to discrimination based on generalizations (generally true or not) about people categorized by that factor, just as race and sex often is. Any true generalization, of course, may not apply to all of those in the particular class, and it is a grave mistake to ascribe any of the generalizations to any particular person in the class without evidence that it applies.

(continued after the jump)

John McCain is Very Old

Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 02:00:29 PM PDT

When John McCain was born, people went to vaudeville shows.

When John McCain was born, the Hindenburg was flying commercially.

John McCain was about to turn 29 when the Voting Rights Act was signed.

When John McCain was born, a gallon of gas cost 10 cents.

When John McCain was born, most people kept their food in ice boxes and had regular ice delivery.

Toward a rational critique of John McCain

Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 05:04:35 PM PDT

Getting right to the point - I'm seeing a lot of especially juvenile attacks on John McCain on this site.  These attacks are not effective from an electoral standpoint and they lower the credibility of dkos in general.  

I say this as someone who is not afraid to point out a candidate's substantive shortcomings.  Last fall I was accused on dkos of shilling for everyone from Bush to Nader when I pointed out Hillary Clinton's lobbyist ties, inconsistent positions, and high negatives.  But I never took shots at Clinton's age, gender, or appearance.  

I don't support McCain and I don't have a very high opinion of his integrity or judgement, but I'd like to see a shift in tone here toward a civil discussion of McCain's weaknesses as a candidate.  What are the criticisms that are true, fair, and politically effective?  

"Gross".

Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 11:30:36 AM PDT

So, right now, on the front page, the guy who put the Kos in Daily Kos is highlighting (quite literally) the color of John McCain's teeth and describing it as "gross".

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but... really?

That's how we want to play this one?

McCain’s Greatest Enemy

Thu Jun 05, 2008 at 09:48:13 AM PDT

 McCain’s Greatest Enemy
  By David Glenn Cox

So, the Presidential campaign has begun in earnest, the policies, the politics, the personalities. The character assassinations, the implications, the reflexive comments and the unsaid innuendo, but for just a moment lets drop back into a huddle. We, as a species, tend to become overwrought and miss the obvious, outside of the politics, outside of party; we tend over-complicate, while dreaming of flight we forget about gravity.

The Transformation & You (Part I - Paradigm)

Fri May 30, 2008 at 09:48:29 PM PDT

The observation has been made that the most apt comparision of Sen. Barack Obama's leadership may not be to that of FDR, or JFK, or the Reagan Revolution, but toTeddy Roosevelt, at the dawn of the 20th Century.

Exactly. He's that Transformational; a Trans-generational figure that leads us from the 20th Century paradigm to that of the 21st.  [Bill] Clinton was the culimination of the post-WWII political aspirations of 20th Century American society; George W. Bush was a retro "pushback", a 'last gasp' of the Traditional Establishment, the Rooted Culture, and the Old [New World] Order.

Its about how the integration of our parochial, sectarian, and tribal beliefs enable the transition into a true planetary culture.  Here are some thoughts on how each of us might help ease our families, friends, and associates into this new reality, with as little wailing, flying of fur, and gnashing of teeth as possible...

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My family, friends, and associates who arent yet for Obama:

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36%4 votes
9%1 votes
0%0 votes
0%0 votes
9%1 votes
0%0 votes
0%0 votes
18%2 votes

| 11 votes | Vote | Results

McCain In 2000 Admitted He'd Be Too Old To Run For President In 2008

Thu May 29, 2008 at 06:34:32 AM PDT

In an 2000 interview with Jim Lehrer of PBS, John McCain himself acknowledged he would too old to run for President in 2008:

Poll

John McCain's age

85%57 votes
7%5 votes
0%0 votes
7%5 votes

| 67 votes | Vote | Results


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