I once wrote, "we are all here of our own volition", that is true.  Today, my choice is to say goodbye.

Meteor, DemfromCt, and Kos--thanks for the forum, but the format no longer agrees with me.

Carville and Novak just blasted Jon Stewart.

Novak said Stewart isn't funny and is uninformed.

Personally I don't understand why they don't understand the pt Jon Stewart was trying to make.  I think it reflects poorly on them that they think his criticism was not warranted.  I think they are way wrong in accusing Stewart of being uninformed.  From my shoes, Stewart is vastly more informed and insightful than anybody on Crossfire.

How come they didn't take Tucker to task for using anti-gay slurs?  and for being combative? Please inform Crossfire that their views on Jon Stewart are unwelcome, unwarranted and naive. Stewart was exercising his right to free speech and trying to encourage honest debate. Egads, but the media in this country is deluded. What happened? How could the whole profession descend so far so fast? What would Mudd, Murrow, and Cronkite think about todays media? We love ya Jon, keep up the good work.

To the good people of (state),

Four years ago we made a mistake.  We elected a simple man with simple values thinking that because he was more of an average Joe he would represent us better than a seasoned, more intelligent career politician.  We were horribly wrong.  

9/11 is George Bush's one shining moment.  It may have taken him three days to come out of hiding and stand atop the rubble of the WTC but when he did he represented us well.  Every action preceding that day and since that day George Bush has failed as President.  He has failed to uphold the honor of the office, failed to tell the truth to the American citizenry, failed to put the good of the masses above the good of the priviliged few.  

On Nov. 2.  We have the opportunity to correct our mistake and elect a man who is everything Bush is not:  Courageous, intelligent, eloquent, and with a strong desire to work for the masses and not the priviliged few.  Please help us return to the respected nation we were four years ago and vote for John Kerry.

Sincerely

this letter is less than 250 words

dKos as I see it

Once again George Bush has changed environmental policy for the worse.  Just days after claiming he was a friend to the environment George Bush rolled back a Reagan Era environmental regulation that called for impact assessments on what logging, drilling, and road building would have on wildlife.

Now Bush seems to think that it would be better if detailed studies weren't used, that the companies themselves can get "best scientific estimates available" and forego the lengthy and costly impact studies currently in use.  

Friend to the earth.  Isn't that what Bush said in the last debate?  Once again Bush proves he lives on a planet not called Earth.  

When John Kerry gets elected I think he should steer the nuclear waste disposal solution from Yucca Mtn, Nevada to Crawford, Texas.  Lets see what Bush thinks when the environment near his home is threatened.  

the GOP propaganda arm.

Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, et al must go down.  Ann Coulter's new book is going to be called something like "The Reason Liberals Lie."  Its time everyone knows that she is not intelligent, lies with every breath, and hates because if she didn't she might have to get a real job.  Same with Hannity and Limbaugh.

The lines between entertainment and news has become blurred and we need to get the media back on track.  Its fine if Fox and Regnery want to promote their views if they disclaimer their product with "for entertainment purposes only."  

If Fox wants to continue promoting their drivel as news then we need to slam them and turn the "liberal bias" into a "conservative bias."

If Regnery Press wants to continue publishing Unfit for Command, How to talk to a liberal.., and Deliver us From Evil, and promote them as biographies or nonfiction then they need to be held to the same standards of fact checking as the major non-fiction publishing houses do.

Any ideas leave em in the space below.

[update] Other wingnuts: but there are some worse who will be listed below; Novak, Carlson, Shwastikanegger, Buckley, McClellan, Rove, Gillespie, Bartlett, Giuliani, Pataki, Frist, Delay, Santorum. These are the media darlings or media personalities who promote the divisive hate-based (not faith based) rhetoric of the Right Wing SpinMachine. Worse by far are the bankrollers. R. Mellon Sciafe, Holland Coors, Pete Coors, Bill Coors, Jeff Coors, The Brothers Koch, Casper Weinberger, Oliver North, James Baker, Paul O'swiftboatneil, George HW Bush, Bill Bennet, Dick Armey, Jack Kemp, C. Boyden Gray, Joseph Fogg, Charles Hilton, Judge Silberman (a federal judge with no conscience), Edwin Meese, Edwin Fuelner, Phillip Truluck, Ed Crane, Frank Bond, Richard Dennis, John Malone, and Rupert Murdoch. There are many more. But we need to start with the voice, quiet the voice and then go after the brain.

this is always worth another look

WELCOME TO ELECTION 2004

talk Revolution.  

I have begun to notice posts mentioning violence as a possible outcome and ramification of this election.  I started saying this in 1994.  It hasn't happened yet but it is a possibility for the future.  The split in the country is complete.  There is no middle ground, there is no compromise.  I feel sorry for the true independents who vote for a candidate and not a party but like it or not something is going to give and its going to happen in the near future.  

Sad to say but I am not sure that Kerry getting elected is going to help in this regard.  If he does the Sciafe network is going to reform and all of a sudden John Kerry is going to have killed Laura Bush's high school boyfriend (and not her).  And we will have the same problem as we did with Clinton a powerless president who cannot do his job because a Republican House and Senate wants to waste millions of taxpayer dollars on investigating Kerry rumors initiated by Rush Limbaugh.

Lets just say that regardless of who wins this election this country is in for some tough times.  I laugh everytime I see the Obama/Dean 12 posts....who's to say that there will be an election 2012?

The way this country is spiraling downward I would not be surprised if a domestic war breaks out.  
The funny thing is is that the conservatives who have led this divide are just as radically religious as the Muslims they call terrorists.  We have to make that connection.  Radicalism has no place in America.  Fundamentalism has no place in America.  Our terror threat comes from the religious right not from the middle east.  Muslims destroyed a building.  The GOP has destroyed a nation.

Now is the time for re-unification, tolerance and compromise.  If we cannot bridge the gap with the Republicans its going to suck because they are the ones with all the goddamn guns.

People of Kos please vote for me.

I just wanted to see what you guys thought about the  word "draft." (and not in the webster's sense)

Last night I heard a little blurb on one of the news channels (I think it was Olberman) about the kid who had a friend shoot him in the leg to avoid a draft. ( the shooting happened a couple months ago for those of you who may not have heard about it) The kid said he knew there was no draft at present but was afraid that one was going to be instituted in the near future.  Hearing the story again just made me think about what the ramifications of Bush's agenda really are; kids dying for no reason.  Its no secret that I hate the Bush Admin, but I have never stopped to look at it from the perspective of a high school student who is learning about Viet-nam in history class and then going home and watching the same sort of bungled war being played out on television.  If I was a teenager right now I would be scared shitless.  I was in the Navy recruiters office in 1989 about to sign on the dotted line when I decided to go college instead.  I was very glad about my decision when I was sitting in my dorms TV room watching Desert Storm play out.  I was just as against that war as I am against its current incarnation.

I can remember people asking the question about a draft right after 9/11 and during the run-up to the Iraq war.  I can remember how every politician was running away from the topic as fast as they could.  I think the one politician who supported was Rangle, although I can't remember for sure if it was someone else.

Well the question kind of died for the last couple years but now its back on the news circuit because of the "back door draft" Bush and Co have placed on the current military servicemen and women.  Like Kerry says, forcing people to re-up means they are non longer volunteers.  

I just got around to reading an article from today's Rocky Mtn News (CO rag and the one I subscribe to).  Supposedly soldiers are being given an ultimatum, re-up or get rotated to Iraq.(nothing like a little positive re-enforcement from comm-in-chief to his soldiers)  

As our military is based on volunteerism, I would say that the desire to not remain in the military is a great statement about how the people in the military feel about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  If you remember there was a huge enlistment jump right after 9/11 but like everything else Bush has done concerning 9/11 the initial reaction has been strangled by blunder after blunder.

Right now the Reserve and Guard units are basically active duty military personel.  With the way things are going in Iraq and Afghanistan and with the rhetoric starting to build in relation to Iraq and Syria, a draft is imminent in my opinion.  

Bush, the anti-nation builder guy, has our country divided, our foreign relations at an all time level of fucked-up-ed-ness(can someone please clarify that this is a word), our economy in "about ready to panic" mode, our military spread thin, our soldiers wanting to opt out at the first opportunity, and the world in a state of anxiety about where this "war on terror" is going to lead.

So I am left wondering what happens if a draft is instituted at this point in time.  It is my opinion that few would answer the call.  It is my opinion that many would be heading for other countries, heading to college, using daddy to get them deferrments and slots in non-combat roles, and that a lot would just say a big ol FU to the government.  I just do not see too many kids sitting around their houses itching for the chance to get sent to the Middle East right now.  Also, I think if the draft was instituted it would signal to the people of the US and the people of the world that we are in Iraq for the long haul, regardless of consequence.

So as I said these are all just opinions and that is what I am looking for from you guys; to chime in and tell me what you think about the subject.

Also include any links on the subject.
blov out