(Originally posted 7/22 as “Against Solid Reality: Orwell Visits Freeperville”, now updated by this week’s sad yet unsurprising epilogue.)
To paraphrase Orwell: soft-headed beliefs (and disinformation) can be held indefinitely—that is, until they smash against hard reality, usually on a battlefield ... or a hospital bed.
Case in point, snippets from a lengthy thread via wingnut groupthink sweat lodge free republic dotcom ...
Need some input concerning using Ivermectin
HI all, My family has all been diagnosed with Covid and all very sick.
I started everyone on the protocol by EVMS which says to take a dose on day 1 and day 3. Unfortunately, on day 6 we are all still very sick. Should I restart the Ivermectin?
(terart)
If you truly have COVID, why isn’t a doctor involved for consultation and advice?
(CatOwner)
went to doctors got diagnosed... the doctor literally said “I’m sorry there is nothing we prescribe for Covid.” I mentioned arithromiacin, etc, anything and he said no. He was condescending and a massive jerk. I finally did a teledoc thing where I at least got an inhaler for my son who is really struggling with his cough. No rest at all..
(terart)
That’s going to be my drug of choice, if I become ill with covid.
It can’t hurt. I’m told it’s as relatively harmless as hydroxychloriquine.
(Jonty30)
A FIVE DAY COURSE IS RECOMMENDED...YOU NEED TO RESTART IMMEDIATELY AND DO ANOTHER FOUR TO FIVE DAYS...I’M NOT A DOCTOR, BUT THAT IS MY READING...I HAVE A SUPPLY FOR MY FAMILY AND MY DOC FRIENDS TELL ME IT IS THE BEST AVAILABLE TREATMENT...NOT THE ONLY ONE, BUT ONE PEOPLE CAN ACCESS.
GOD BLESS YOU, AND GOOD LUCK
(Chuckadv)
Go to an E.R.
If after one day there is no affect get to real medical treatment.
I don’t what you think or feel about it.
I’m urging you to get professional medical treatment.
Please.
(David Chase)
How sick? If any of you have difficulty breathing, heart attack symptoms or altered level of consciousness you need to go to hospital.
At least call your doctor or COVID hotline.
(heartwood)
no not difficulty breathing. I’m just watching everyone closely with my oxometer... probably spelled wrong.
Just major aches and headaches and horrible cough. My son and I have lost sense of taste/smell.
(terart)
Beware of hospitals and ERs.
They may be necessary in a low-oxygen emergency. HOWEVER, they can essentially kidnap a COVID victim and refuse to provide ivermectin. They will also refuse to allow visitors, so there is no way to sneak ivermectin to the patient.
(UnwashedPeasant)
Don’t forget, President Trump said it was a miracle drug that helped him overnight
If you haven’t seen the video of him returning to the White House from the hospital, you should look it up, in just a few minutes, it makes you so proud to be an American, and what a blessing it was to have a president who wouldn’t take no from the beaurocrats, but pushed and pushed!
(redinIllinois)
Do NOT listen to internet doctors. Ivermectin is not proven effective. The last 2 independent Random Controlled Trials showed no benefit.
(ETCM)
Go online to front line dr’s. They will get you the medicine and protocol needed also drink raw a2 milk and vitamin c supplements. Keep us posted
(pangaea6)
“Print it, take to doc, imsist they follow it. If not, get another doc. Call them (website), they will guide you to online docs who will prescribe and you can have the proper drugs in hours.”
this is what we are following but we have taken the 2 doses with the day in between and I am trying to figure out if we should start again
(terart)
— Five days later —
we have been thru hell today- after getting approved for the antibody therapy spouse and I were told Thursday. The infusion center then called and said if we wanted to get today to go to emergency. So we go to emergency and they say they will do it. We go back and they do a bunch of tests and because as soo as we got there they automatically put us on oxygen (my oxygen levels ranging between 92 to 94) spouse was 90. The doctor then comes in and says no according to FDA they cannot give it because we have hypoxia and would have had to be 95. THIS IS WHAT I’M DEALING WITH.
They then determined we needed to be admitted but no therapy. I ended up having pneumonia. We decided to check out against their desires and we are trying to still do the appt for therapy tomorrow. Please please pray we are successful…
(terart)
— Another four days later —
I received this reply from terarts daughter- please pray
Mom md this is the daughter of terart, both my mom and dad were put into icu. they cpould not get the therapy. they both have covid pneumonioa. my dad was put on a ventilator. and my mom they are trying to get her oxygen levels fixed and under control. she is scared. pleas eplease pray for them and would you put out a message troi thye community asking for prayer. she cant get on computer in icu. she is requesting as much prayer as possible at this point. as much as she fought for over a week to get the therapy, she was stopped over and over again. i appreciate it,
(Mom MD)
— Amongst the thoughts and prayers —
My problem is Kaiser Permanente will not write the prescription for ivermectin until it has been approved by the F.D.A. I have already been fully vaccinated by the Moderna’s vaccine. So, if they have a booster to combat variants Δ, Ε, Ζ, Η, Θ, Ι . . . I will gladly take them free of charge than to pay someone over the internet, who might use my credit card number to steal my bank balance. If you don’t trust the government, you definitely should not trust them.
Until ivermectin is approved by the FDA, the vaccine is the way to go.
(jonrick46)
Democrats, Twitter and Covid made the whole world a lot meaner.
(a real Sheila)
Orwell: “… the contradictions and absurdities I have chronicled above, [are] all finally traceable to a secret belief that one’s political opinions, unlike the weekly budget, will not have to be tested against solid reality.”
— EPILOGUE, another two weeks later —
Freeper terart passed away from us due to COVID, on August 1st
Freeper terart has passed into God's loving hands.
Please pray for the repose of her soul, and the comfort of her family.
(BeauBo)
Covid and the Deep State won.
(a real Sheila)
An interesting thread. Rule number one — never reach out to total strangers for medical advice. Especially total strangers who aren’t doctors but read something online.
May she rest in peace.
(bigdaddy45)
Good point. A suggestion: some of you have self-identified as medical doctors in your past posts. I love FR because it an eclectic group of Subject Matter Experts on so many things and one can learn a lot. But anything I learn here needs my own due diligence to reach my own conclusions.
Perhaps adding a disclaimer to your posts that FR is NOT telemedicine and any information you convey is for general knowledge purposes only, does not establish a doctor-patient relationship, etc. While this is understood by many, sometimes it could be in your interests to make it crystal clear.
(NonValueAdded)
Tragic.
My read of her comments spanning 5 days is that she didn’t die of COVID, but of medical malpractice.
(logi_cal869)
I have no idea on vaccination status. I know she made the best decision she could for herself and her family either way and we should honor her decision and mourn her passing. My prayers remain with her family
(Mom MD)
