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  •  Actually, the problem (6+ / 0-)

    is that the two sides aren't speaking the same language.

    DP advocates speak in terms of "deserving". Mass murderers and serial killers deserve to die by almost any moral standard, and even the most full-throated DP opponent is unlikely to argue particularly vigorously that they don't.

    But the DP opponent argument is that "does this person deserve to die?" is a fundamentally different question from "is it morally and pragmatically good for the state to kill them?" They're very different questions which often have different answers.

    The difference can go both ways - for instance, few would argue that an 18-year-old newly-conscripted private in the German trenches in WWII deserved to die, but most would say that it was morally and pragmatically justifiable to use state force to kill them.

    On the other hand, as a DP opponent, I believe quite firmly that Jeffrey Dahmer deserves to die. I wouldn't shed the slightest tear at news of his death. But I nonetheless think it would be a bad idea to use state force to kill him.

    "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

    by kyril on Mon Aug 06, 2012 at 08:00:02 PM PDT

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    •  Not to threadjack, but... (5+ / 0-)

      Dahmer was beaten to death in prison in 1994 along with another Caucasian also serving time for murder, by an African-American prisoner with severe psychiatric problems.

      Wisconsin does not have the death penalty, and Dahmer was two years into a 957 year sentence for 15 consecutive life terms.

      "There isn't a way things should be. There's just what happens, and what we do." — Terry Pratchett (A Hat Full of Sky)

      by stormicats on Mon Aug 06, 2012 at 08:51:39 PM PDT

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