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View Diary: Elizabeth Warren leads Scott Brown by 6 in new poll: 50-44 (210 comments)

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  •  Off year?....Kennedy fatigue?...Coakley awful?... (8+ / 0-)

    Tea Party energized?........The last polling I saw on MA showed Obama crushing Mittens.......Coattails?....eom

    •  Could be and hopefully it was a blip on the radar. (2+ / 0-)
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      •  Extrapolations from 2010 are hazardous to your (3+ / 0-)
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        health Reince........;-)

        •  I have lived in MA for all of my 52.. (13+ / 0-)

          In one of those small ever so slightly many red towns on that map that were guaranteed democratic towns in the past.

           I would not take anything for granted this November.

          The state has bad memories of Romney and that may hopefully motivate voters to get out and vote for Warren.,

          However my sense is that many democrats in the state are not overly motivated by the  state of the Democratic party.

          Without being able to rationalize why working class dems would shoot themselves in the foot and vote for a republican, it happened. I think it happened because the party msi-read and took for granted their support.

          •  Look at the map above again (2+ / 0-)
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            Dems carried Fall River, Brockton, New Bedford, Lawrence, Worcester, Springfield, Holyoke.  The problem for Dems in MA is NOT with working-class voters, and it is a reflection of the class bias that prevails around here that the steady drumbeat here is that it is so often proclaimed to be.  

            The only significant swing vote in Massachusetts are married, white, suburban, middle-to-upper-middle class women, and there is a particular tendency among those voters to swing against candidates that "look like them":  Coakley, S. O'Brien, going further back, E. Murphy.

            Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

            by ActivistGuy on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 07:50:18 AM PDT

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            •  The more pouplated major urban area were blue. (4+ / 0-)

              Western Ma with it colleges towns. rural areas and artist communities in the Berkshires were blue.

              Many red towns on that map are small working class towns and it is not that easy to wave your hand and dismiss the trend. I live just outside of Worcester.

              •  Not so much "working class" (1+ / 0-)
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                but suburban/exurban roughly along 495; my family is from the Wrentham area.

              •  And a lot of towns, like mine, (3+ / 0-)
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                whose non-party voters equal or outnumber enrolled Dems or Repubs have trended Republican lately. Lots of "Reagan Democrats" out this way, even after all these years.

                "The truth will set you free...but first it'll piss you off." - Gloria Steinem

                by Sharoney on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 09:26:54 AM PDT

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                •  While It was was my first election, I was a Reagan (0+ / 0-)

                  democrat for his first term. However the driving force was that we were Kennedy democrats. I think it was his fight to the convention and the barn burner of a speech he gave that made it more palatable to vote for Reagan then Carter. Our guy had lost and we weren't going to vote for the guy he lost too.

                  While I've forgotten the specifics, even within in his first term he started to deviate from his campaign promises on things like student loans and SS related issue.. I did not vote for him a second time.

            •  Several of the old mill cities flipped to red. (4+ / 0-)
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              Lowell, Waltham, Fitchburg, Milford.  If Warren hopes to win she need to flip these types of communities back.  

              Also significant in January, 2010 was the drop in turnout in the cities that went Dem.  

              "Now go out there and make me do it!" - Franklin Roosevelt

              by brae70 on Sun Sep 16, 2012 at 08:42:14 AM PDT

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    •  Special election in a blizzard, some union support (6+ / 0-)

      Let me first say that we wouldn't be having this conversation if the Democrats hadn't nominated the worst statewide candidate since Shannon O'Brien. Coakley took a freaking vacation in the middle of the campaign. She totally took the vote for granted, just assuming they would support her because the D next to her name.

      Personally never liked her. Opportunist in both the Fells Acres and Shaken Baby cases. Also declined to prosecute a pedophile priest because she was afraid of losing the case. She shouldn't even have been elected Middlesex County DA.

      •  Interesting (1+ / 0-)
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        Just saw a movie, can't remember name, about one of the first cases of the DNA project freeing a guy wrongly convicted of murder.  Fascinating story, the guy's sister went to law school just to work for his release.  Any way, I was very chagrined to hear that, despite the DNA evidence, Coakley (then gov? AG? can't remember) tried to dismiss to block his release.  You seem to be confirming that she had bad, politically motivated instincts as a prosecutor.

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