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  •  The Charley James saga taints the well for any (3+ / 0-)

    folks that truly need charity.
    You are gullible beyond words if a barking dog soundtrack persuaded you.
    Did you see the stock photo??
    Geez.

    •  Apparently you did not understand (0+ / 0-)

      my post above.

      Two repuputable left-wing publications have not only published him for many years but they have now stepped up to support him financially.  Somehow I doubt they would do that if they had any concerns about his legitimacy.  

      Again, if I want your advice, I will ask for it.  

      As far as I am concerned, this is over.

      •  For all I know you're getting a cut of (2+ / 0-)
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        KateCrashes, Neuroptimalian

        Charley's take which is $3,000+
        I sent an email to la progressive directing them to this diary and the comments.
        Use your critical thinking skills and quit representing someone that you know little about.
        You may ruin your reputation here by doing so.

        •  May I respectfully suggest leaving it alone? (1+ / 0-)
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          KelleyRN2

          While there is ample evidence that "Charley James" has been repeatedly untruthful on this site, the leap your "for all I know" makes is a leap too far.  

          Plenty of people got taken for a ride here, and there is nothing in ShoshannaD's history that I know of that would justify such suspicion. In any event, it's something she needs to work out for herself. I won't credit her vouching for someone again, but I'll continue to pay attention when she tries to help in a verifiable situation because I think her intentions are good.

          FWIW, if there were no rules against outing, there would be quite a bit more to post about "Charley" but I'll leave it to ShoshannaD to do that research if she has any continuing connection with him.

          •  How can I suspect that her intentions are good (3+ / 0-)
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            newfie, Mariken, middleagedhousewife

            since she continues to stick up for someone who's claims strain credulity?
            At best I think she's incredibly naive.
            By your metric...excuse me if I have misinterpreted...anyone who writes a sob story raising money for folks that they don't know in real life are well-intentioned and those that question the story, that is full of holes, are hard-hearted?
            Spare me.

            •  Well, no, not anyone. (6+ / 0-)

              Not, for example, "Bill & Estelle Windsor" who appeared on the scene purely to pull off this latest fundraiser. I'm reacting to ShoshannaD's apparent general reputation, breadth of contributions, and contribution to other verified   efforts such as that for marabout40. That doesn't mean she isn't part of a long con, but the evidence says otherwise to me, just as the evidence about Charley James says the opposite. In either case, I could be wrong. As I told her yesterday, I have seen enough to decide where not to direct my money. But that's a far cry from accusing even him, let alone her, of thievery or scamming.

              I'm certainly not calling you hardhearted, and I think naive may be a reasonable conclusion. My suggestion was based on the pointlessness of continuing to badger her. If she's a deep mole who is part of a scam, your comment won't change anything. If she's been duped, rubbing her nose in it won't help and is uncharitable. It was just a community comity suggestion, and ymmv of course.

      •  Reputable (7+ / 0-)

        You keep saying they are reputable publications - but they seem to be just some websites which don't even pay their authors. I doubt if they would really be concerned about what their unpaid contributors do.

      •  You've been strangley quiet as this has unfolded (1+ / 0-)
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        KateCrashes

        as a scam....
        A scam that you continued to stick up for to the very end.
        Do you have anything to say for your participation in this?

        •  Oh... how clever! you've blocked me! (2+ / 0-)
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          PennBrian, KateCrashes

          Listen, you've got a lot to answer for here.
          Maybe you've noticed AdamB's repost that has been on the RecList all day?
          You vouched for a scammer and doubled down on something that you had no clue about.
          You owe the dkos "community" an apology at the very least.
          I am quite content to pursue this publically.
          Not a problem.

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