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  •  "Free" in this case means healthcare... (16+ / 0-)

    providers are free to prescribe whatever they want, whenever and however they want -- even if the drug they prescribe is nothing but a glorified placebo -- or even worse a dangerous, side-effect-causing compound -- recklessly pushed on a desperate afflicted patient for the sole purpose of generating obscene profits for big pharma, and a tidy commission for the provider.`

    The U.S. healthcare system is the biggest, most greed-driven, amoral, ongoing ripoff scam ever pulled on a country in the history of the world. It was fundamentally setup only for those that can afford it.

    In fact, if it was setup to serve the general public, insurance companies would not be part of the process, healthcare providers would be salaried, and prescription drug prices would be negotiable.

    "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

    by markthshark on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 07:53:48 AM PST

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    •  prescription drug prices (7+ / 0-)

      the dirty secret is if one is willing to purchase meds from (horrors!) overseas using the (horrors!) internet, prices are much cheaper.  Big pharma hates it so one regularly sees hit pieces over the horrors of mail order pharmacies, etc. One such even showed up on this site.  Insurance doesn't pay for it, but oftentimes the price is less than the US co-pay.

      •  And it's actually illegal (1+ / 0-)
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        to order drugs from out of the country. Although that doesn't stop people from doing it. It usually doesn't get enforced, although there have been isolated crackdowns from time to time. I've done it myself in the past.

      •  The reality is that ordering drugs from (3+ / 0-)
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        overseas IS fraught with danger - there is a very high chance that the product you obtain will be adulterated.

        Now, ordering from Canada (and not being a big fan of that country I'm loathe to say this) is a totally different (and safer!) beast.

        •  I got bad insulin from Canada (1+ / 0-)
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          Or at least insulin that took three times as long to deliver as promised, was not from where they said it was, and lacked documentation of correct handling (temperature control). The pharmacy, out of Winnepeg, refused to honor their guarantee. I was out my $175.

          •  I'm not surprised, ordering drugs (0+ / 0-)

            from a place solely noteworthy as being the origin of Winnie  the Pooh seems foolish, at least in retrospect.

            But on the plus side, at least they didn't kill you - like all that tainted heparin blood thinner stuff from China (is that what is was?)  and heck, that even went through the regulatory channels!  Think what happens if that's NOT the case (or do a Google search, it's not that difficult to document that a vast amount of "overseas" drugs are complete shit).

            Nevertheless I suppose I should profoundly apologize for momentarily letting down my guard against all-things-Canadian.

        •  having done this literally dozens of times (3+ / 0-)
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          I always got what I ordered and I would know it if it was not.  Adulterated meds can occur anywhere, even in the US. This is exactly the big pharma propaganda I was talking about:

          there is a very high chance that the product you obtain will be adulterated.
          •  Where have you ordered from? (0+ / 0-)

            Macau? Romania? China?  

            Seriously, chances are that you will NOT be receiving what you think you are getting.   These operators are sophisticated enough on occasion to fool the FDA, do you really think you can out-smart them?

            •  You have been sold myth of American (1+ / 0-)
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              exceptionalism, foisted by big pharma PR, Inc.  There have been plenty of such problems in the US too. 76,000 hits on the google search string "recalls".  Not to mention intentional, felonious dilution of expensive cancer meds, particulate matter in injectables, and the sterile wipes that were not sterile and caused more than a few cases of septicemia, all in the US from US sources.

              I would never buy meds or even foodstuffs from China, and I wonder how much Chinese product ends up in our multivitamins.

              I would know if my meds were not working and you can believe it or not as you choose.

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              I think anybody with the will and money can fool the FDA, hell they just hire the 'regulators' or the 'healthcare industry' staffs the FDA.

              "History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance." -James Madison

              by FreeTradeIsYourEpitaph on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 07:02:35 AM PST

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          •  As a caveat to my other posts (1+ / 0-)
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            wilderness voice

            I personally don't think it should be illegal to order drugs from "overseas" - if people wish to take a chance with their health, I have no problem with that.

            In the same vein, I chafe under current regulations that prohibit me from running a genetic testing center out of my garage.

      •  You can also (2+ / 0-)
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        SilentBrook, wilderness voice

        order them without a prescription, which in the US costs you a minimum of $50 for an office visit wherein absolutely nothing is done, or hundreds of dollars for unnecessary tests to continue taking something that's done no harm for years.

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