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  •  Yeah, Chambliss and Graham (2+ / 0-)
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    James Allen, MichaelNY

    I said I thought they were pretty safe from a primary challenger unless they vote for a tax increase, in which you could see multiple strong candidate emerge.

    But it depends on what happens with the debt ceiling and also immigration reform.

    If it's perceived conservatives didnt win anything in the whole budget debate(fiscall cliff, FY 2013 budget, debt ceiling, etc), then I think those senators will get a strong primary challenge. Especially for Graham, if he also votes for a potential immigration deal.

    •  I don't see what they got themselves so far (1+ / 0-)
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      I understand the argument they've maybe, possibly got less bad deals than they expected though I'm not really in that camp. But considering the fight is often on their turf then I'd call call the result somewhat of a reversal of the usual Overton window situation.

      "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

      by conspiracy on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 12:10:16 PM PST

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      •  yeah, in this round, I dont think (1+ / 0-)
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        GOP got much, if anything. But I do think Obama is trying build to a grand bargain, step by step since he couldnt get it in one bill, and he could use the various cliffs that are coming up to do that. I think Obama wants a grand bargain that is 1 trillion in spending cuts, 1 trillion in revenue. Right now, if we look at it like a running total, Obama has 600 billion or so in revenue, and GOP has zero in spending cuts. That means, the next deal will probably have more spending cuts than revenue, but again, that might be fine with the president. It can be part of the grand bargain and he can get a debt ceiling hike out of it as well.

        I wont comment on the substance of that, since it's DKE, but I think that's the political strategy.

        That's why I say, after all these various budget cliffs we face, if the tea party is as upset as they are now, I think you could see the approvals for Graham and Chambliss weakened to a point where multiple candidates could win a primary against them.

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