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  •  You're not a crackpot. A British politician (10+ / 0-)

    (I forget his name) called the whole conclave, election and subsequent ceremonies and press coverage "theatre." He used the exact same word.

    •  James Hacker? (0+ / 0-)

      I'm thinking of "The Bishop's Gambit" from Yes Prime Minister, where the Government (ie, the Prime Minister) is to provide to The Church of England (ie, the Queen) a choice of two candidates for a bishopric that recently opened up.  

      Actually, it was as always, Sir Humphrey, that illuminated the theatre that the choice provides.

      "We’re not going to give up on destroying the health care system for the American people." - Rep. Paul Ryan

      by Khun David on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 06:37:30 AM PDT

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      •  My mistake. It was Dr. Starkey, historian. (5+ / 0-)

        In an outspoken attack, Dr Starkey said the election of a new Pope was simply “theatre” which would mean nothing those outside the faith.

        In 2011 the historian was accused of racism after he suggested black culture was a cause of the 2011 riots.

        He appeared on Radio 4’s Broadcasting House this morning alongside Eamon Duffy, Professor of the History of Christianity at the University of Cambridge, to discuss the election of Pope Francis I.

        Dr Starkey said: “The plain truth is that this is an institution, as we all remembered before Benedict XVI resigned, retired, this is an institution that is corrupt and riddled with corruption, irredeemably corrupt from top to bottom and we are just deceiving ourselves.”

        Professor Duffy responded by saying Christians do not believe that anything is irredeemable.

        When asked what the new Pope meant for non-Catholics in Britain, Dr Starkey replied: “Nothing at all. It is simply part of the great world theatre of entertainment. It is up one minute with a new papal election and down the next with the next lot of revelations about the turpitude of the clergy.”

        He risked further offence by claiming that Thomas Becket, the murdered medieval Archbishop venerated as a saint by many Catholics, should be the "patron saint" of child abusers.

        The main scandals within the Catholic Church occurred in areas such as Ireland and America where they acted “outside the law” - as King Henry II accused the Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Becket of doing in the 12th Century, prior to his killing.

        Dr Starkey said: “I want to have a new patron saint. I want to declare that Thomas Becket is the patron saint of child abusers.”

        When asked if he wanted to respond to the claims Professor Duffy, a Catholic, replied: “Well, no.”

        Dr Starkey is widely regarded as one of Britain's leading constitutional historians, and has presented series for Channel 4 and the BBC. He is to host a new series on how the British monarchy has influenced classical music for the BBC this year to mark the anniversary of the Queen's coronation.

        However, he was widely criticised in 2011 when he claimed, in a debate on the causes of the riots, that "the whites have become black."

    •  Once when I was babysitting as a teen (3+ / 0-)

      I was telling the story of the birth of Jesus - the traditional "no room in the inn" narrative and, all of a sudden my little niece, five years old, said "That's show biz!"

      I will never forget that moment.  I was raised in the Catholic church, went to Mass every morning in elementary school - the whole school did.  I accepted and loved the pageantry and show biz aspect of the church and the ceremonies.  But I never previously thought of it all as a "show."

      I left the church when I entered the USAF at age nineteen.  I had been exposed to great existential writers (Camus, Sartre, Ionesco, etc.) and I was learning about Buddhism and other worldviews and philosophies.  My Catholic social justice upbringing did lay a foundation for my later secular humanism.  I also resented the fact that I knew so many gay priests and others in the church and they all were living a lie.  A strange inside joke.  I am gay.  I had sex with gay priests.  

      Theater.  "Show Biz."

      •  Okay, so I have to ask-- what did that smart (1+ / 0-)
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        little girl grow up to do?  Because somebody so smart at so young could travel far.

        That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

        by concernedamerican on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 09:58:16 AM PDT

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        •  I don't know (0+ / 0-)

          When I went into the Air Force I severed ties with my biological siblings (parents had died) and everyone in the emotionally incestuous area where I grew up.  Too judgemental.  Too hateful.  Too conservative.  

          She was very smart.

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