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  •  I don't know about that....the fact (0+ / 0-)

    that white people got the same sentence and probably would not have if there were no mandatories leads me to believe that it actually levels the playing field a little.

    Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

    by PsychoSavannah on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 05:04:51 PM PDT

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    •  Not following your reasoning, could be (1+ / 0-)
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      my muddled thinking today. I believe that none of those five should have mandatory 20 year sentences. And I should have clarified that Florida's “10-20-Life” law needs to be rescinded. That law requires that any crime committed with a gun earns the perpetrator a minimum ten year sentence. If the firearm is discharged, the convicted will receive a 20-year minimum sentence, and if shots fired from the gun injure or kill anyone, the minimum sentence is 25-years to life.

      That's the law that caught Alexander and the other five.

      Mandatory minimums are also applied to drug offenses around the country. A disproportionate number of blacks are arrested and tried for drug offenses, and receive mandatory minimum sentences. Some examples here from famm.org.

      “We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children” ― Chief Seattle

      by SoCalSal on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 05:58:22 PM PDT

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      •  My reasoning is the POC would (2+ / 0-)
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        have gotten the sentences anyway, but the white folks probably would not have.  So, the law was a try at making sure everyone who committed the same offense got the same sentence, no matter what color they were.  Badly written, to be sure.

        Similar laws and programs have been put in place in Richmond, Atlanta and some other cities and stats show that gun-related violent crime is down.

        We will always have these kinds of cases while trying to reduce gun violence.  Getting rid of the additional penalties altogether.....I don't know if that is a good idea either.

        Listening to the NRA on school safety is like listening to the tobacco companies on cigarette safety. (h/t nightsweat)

        by PsychoSavannah on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 06:32:37 PM PDT

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        •  I wonder ... (0+ / 0-)

          if legislators were as fair minded as you suggest (intending same sentence for same crime regardless of color), or if they were, collectively, simply attempting to be tough on crime. You could be giving legislators more credit for fair mindedness than I can.

          Rates of violent crime are down everywhere, for nebulous reason. I object to all mandatory minimum sentences because those laws inevitably result in severely unfair sentences such as Alexander received.

          “We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors; we borrow it from our children” ― Chief Seattle

          by SoCalSal on Sun Jul 14, 2013 at 08:37:14 PM PDT

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