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  •  Projection (10+ / 0-)

    Screaming for an invasion of Syria without considering alternatives is the definition of knee-jerk.  

    Killing many innocent people to protect some innocent people in the buildup to the inevitable ground invasion makes so much sense.

    Letting the CIA create this mess - even more problematic.

    "The international world is wondering what happened to America's great heart and soul." Helen Thomas

    by Betty Pinson on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 11:08:27 AM PDT

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    •  There was no ground invasion in Libya. (7+ / 0-)

      Why do you think there will be one this time?

      “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing
      he was never reasoned into” - Jonathan Swift

      by jjohnjj on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 11:20:42 AM PDT

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      •  Yet (0+ / 0-)

        There will be, as long as they have energy assets.  The US will invade and control either directly or by proxy.

        "The international world is wondering what happened to America's great heart and soul." Helen Thomas

        by Betty Pinson on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 11:41:27 AM PDT

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        •  You keep saying that (1+ / 0-)
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          Despite clear information that they have minimal energy assets, and "acquiring" them risks destabilizing the situation in countries that have substantial energy assets. It would be like invading Wyoming for their potatoes, even knowing you might destroy Idaho in the process. You are entitled to your own opinions, but you really need to base them on something other than your own imaginary facts.

          “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

          by Catte Nappe on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 11:58:07 AM PDT

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        •  great article (0+ / 0-)
          If this is really about justice, is there no place for due process and critical scrutiny of the intelligence before letting loose with lethal power? And let us not kid ourselves in the face of a concerted rhetoric effort by the Obama administration to downgrade what is really unfolding. We hear of narrow limited strikes, targeted surgical procedures, and it's as if robots will reach into Syria, avoid all the people, and defanf the military capabilities of the Assad regime.
          War, it ought to go without saying, is a risky, unpredictable pursuit. You fire missiles at another country and people will die. If we have learned anything from the past decade, it's that military campaigns have unintended consequences. We could miss the intended targets or learn that the things we were aiming at had other uses than those we understood. We could provoke a strike on Israel from Iran. We could incite unforeseen violence from the Assad regime. And when one of those things happens and some fresh hell breaks loose, genuine moral leadership capable of speaking for international norms had best be supported by more than a couple of far-flung allies going along on a ride that has not been adequately mapped out.
          For Obama, this poorly sold, as-yet ill-defined intervention into another seething conflict in the Middle East presents grave risks: He could wind up representing the sort of American power defined by his predecessor, the shoot first-contemplate later mode of operation that has served no interests beyond the Islamist militants for whom such violence functions as a valuable recruiting aid.

          "Who are these men who really run this land? And why do they run it with such a thoughtless hand?" David Crosby

          by allenjo on Sat Aug 31, 2013 at 12:15:54 PM PDT

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