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America changed big time Nov 22,1963
So this was the day our president was shot to death in Dallas. This was the day, we baby boomers know we will never forget. We all remember where we were and what we were doing. This was the ...
Vetwife 11/21/2010 64 18 - 136
Most People really don't care anymore !!!! I'm hurt.
First of all this is pretty personal and I don't want it to seem like a pity party. I have not been on here because of some very very serious problems. I mean things that may not happen in decades ...
Vetwife 12/06/2010 67 31 1 80
Daily Kos...A Bridge over troubled Waters..God Bless !
When a person gets heartbroken and a lot of things start happening, then it is easy to fall by the wayside. I thought I was a strong woman...I actually thought I was wonderwoman at times but I got ...
Vetwife 12/16/2010 23 29 - 56
Vetwife's Christmas and Kos spirit ..thank you
It has not even been a month yet since I posted my diary of pain right before Christmas, in fact, I believe it was dated December 6th. I want you all to know that you..every single one of you had a ...
Vetwife 12/29/2010 61 54 - 66
We already know that all politics are local. I picked up some info on another site and then started doing a little checking. I don't necessarily think this is an Obama problem but a legislative ...
Vetwife 12/31/2010 28 7 - 74
Warning from Whoopi during March madness
We have a lot of diaries on here blaming the right and tea party. We have a lot of people counter attacking saying all of this was a tragedy but it was a lone mentally ill person. Guns and ...
Vetwife 01/10/2011 1 6 - 66
Rhetoric from the right ..You be the judge
We have heard it. We have seen it during the health care debate but when you lump it all together, there is no doubt how the mentally and emotionally disturbed get their ideas. Let us look at the ...
Vetwife 01/11/2011 1 2 - 71
The United States of Division
Where to begin? Lord only knows that with the cost of gas, legilators leaving the state and campouts at state capitols, not to mention a democratic president praising the likes of Jeb Bush,...
Vetwife 03/06/2011 5 6 - 65
Stand up !!!!! Speak out..You have to !
I know this has been preached and preached but it really is the truth. When you see anything and I mean anything that offends with disrespect for your president, your country, or your way of life, ...
Vetwife 03/12/2011 24 19 - 76
Harrassing veterans...what would you do?
OK..I am gonna blow my top on this one. I am tired, so tired of fighting so called patriotic flag waving red state hypocritical authority wingers. I even walked away from a mortgage and the whole ...
Vetwife 03/18/2011 23 14 - 187
For Sara and the Kos community
Today as I reflect on some of our trials and joys here in the Kos community, I feel that sometimes we do not lift up our friends as much as we should. I feel we need to let our heros know they are ...
Vetwife 03/20/2011 14 31 - 168
Who are these tea party people?
I have pondered this with a great deal of thought. What direction are we heading and who are these tea party people. I know we think we know but I have an opinion of who they really are. You may ...
Vetwife 03/30/2011 3 - - 33
Shut er down? Don't pay the idiots !
Go ahead Big shots !!!! Shut er down. When you do shut er down..be sure you shut your paychecks off. You do work for the federal government or supposed to, so just forget about that little ...
Vetwife 04/06/2011 6 3 - 56
When Vets Protested the government killed them !
So many of our readers are not familiar with the Bonus Army under the Hoover years Starving, Hurting veterans who had served in WWI were promised a check. Their sacrafice to a so called greatful ...
Vetwife 04/13/2011 18 15 1 130
My exchange with racism..No time for hate !
I guess everyone on here who knows me, knows that I try to back up my beliefs with my outspoken criticism of things that I feel are wrong. I went to school with a girl in the 60's. I guess I have ...
Vetwife 04/15/2011 42 15 - 161
A chunk of change wasted at the VA
Talk about waste. I know how the government could trim some fat and not take it away from kids, seniors, and someone out there needs to hear this..Those in power who need a plan....Let me tell you ...
Vetwife 04/21/2011 8 7 - 95
This ship is sinking and stinking !
When President Obama took office he knew he had his hands full. He knew the platter was overflowing. I don't thinlk he or any of us knew just how bad the country was literally bleeding. The ...
Vetwife 04/29/2011 31 21 - 241
They play..we pay and the two Americas
We heard John Edwards on the campaign trail speak of the Two America culture. It is sad that John Edwards could be so on target and yet lose his credibility over his personal ethics. He was spot ...
Vetwife 05/15/2011 10 9 - 84
My 5 year old summed up how America should be...
Yesterday my 5 year old, oops excuse me, she just turned 6, summed up how America should be as we were playing in a pool. She and I were playing as I was supposed to be drifting on a life raft ...
Vetwife 05/23/2011 62 87 2 600
I'm tired of it being called Economic Downturn
Well, on Memorial Day we are either about to have a payday or just still looking for work, but regardless if this following conversation sounds like the one at your house, I am here to tell you that ...
Vetwife 05/30/2011 230 142 4 933
Republicans want to cut Veterans benefits
So, how far down the rabbit hole is America going to fall before the people say ENOUGH to the chickenhawks who make war and turn soldiers into veterans..disabled veterans? Paul Ryan wants to cut ...
Vetwife 06/04/2011 97 124 3 574
Got an idea..Need input !
Maybe we should start a group here at KOS where we have items we want to give away or donate or just rid of and there are a lot of wrinkles to iron out but this IMO is beneficial to the community ...
Vetwife 06/05/2011 27 12 - 132
Let's make a Deal ! We need it.
I was studying some things regarding FDR's administration and was flabbergasted at what all I did not know about The New Deal. Yes, I knew about the Social Security Act and FDIC and WPA but what I ...
Vetwife 06/07/2011 13 11 - 87
Connecting Dots..Got Greed? Koch..Tea Party..BB&T
Ok Ok, I apologize for overlooking a diary posted here and some other sites about the universites and Koch Brothers along with Rand teachings UNTIL I kept getting robbed at my bank, especially this ...
Vetwife 06/11/2011 9 3 - 77
Agent Orange, Maude and me
I am guessing that many of you may not have heard of Maude DeVictor. She is one awesome lady. I want to tell you a little about agent orange, Maude, and the effect both have had on me. I was ...
Vetwife 06/22/2011 34 29 3 152
From my family to yours....Thank you !
I have been pondering over what to name this diary. I have so much I want to say and yet not want to repeat myself like a broken record. I would first like to update the veterans and all the ...
Vetwife 07/04/2011 32 83 - 354
Heros among us !
I have two diaries to do. I have to get my head wrapped around them before I pass them along to some of those Advocates, so we can tweak them but in the meantime, I feel this is a most important ...
Vetwife 07/09/2011 15 8 - 134
How do We Fight this? No we can't
I voted for Obama. I have no clue what they are gonna use against democrats in 2012 but ths much I can tell you. We are not going to be able to counter these promises not delivered. I am a ...
Vetwife 07/16/2011 36 13 - 200
The joke on us or how we got here today !
Not a whole lot to this diary but for some of we pie throwers and fighters, sometimes we just need to loosen up and laugh. I thought of the President we now have and his dignity that has been ...
Vetwife 07/18/2011 11 8 - 87
This is what a movement looks like !
We of sane minds want the wars over now. We talk of a movement. Those of us too old to do as much as before, KNOW what a movement looks like. We know what it feels like. We remember. Many of us ...
Vetwife 07/20/2011 12 6 - 98
My Big Daddy...an inspiration
I do not know why I am thinking of my grandfather on my maternal side today but what a Grand..Grandfather to have. Children are so very much like sponges and we must never forget that as we go ...
Vetwife 07/24/2011 8 9 - 66
Mr. President, who are you talking to?
This diary is hoped to be somehow read by someone in the Obama Administration. Who is the President talking to when he goes on his Address the Nation speeches? The President had better quit ...
Vetwife 07/26/2011 45 11 - 175
A Fantasy for liberals...Aaaaah..
Yes, we do need a balanced congress. I am referring to Bill Maher's comments about equal crazy opportunity legislators. We know there are some real far out lefties but they were left out in the ...
Vetwife 08/06/2011 5 8 - 66
Call to Action !
OK, I may be a bit distraught today but what the Hell is going on ? I looked at the most horrific pictures in Africa and of course we have our own hungry here but not to that extent.YET. We have ...
Vetwife 08/08/2011 58 10 - 81
Hey Fox..Devito..Calling you out !
Ok I was mad as a wet sitting hen this evening after Tom P posted about those kids giving it their all and doing an ad about policy. Social Secuity and Healthcare. The so called news media of ...
Vetwife 08/11/2011 10 24 - 218
The day we said no to Bush in person !
I swear my husband and I cannot say we have had or do have a boring life. I was speaking to DaNang today and he suggested I tell this story via diary to you all. Had this little confrontation ...
Vetwife 08/12/2011 135 186 1 1002
Wolves at the Door....GOTV 2012
This is the truth. You may not like it. I am not on the sidelines cheerleading and feeling all warm and fuzzy but what I am about to say from this day forward is the truth..no more woulda coulda ...
Vetwife 08/14/2011 33 6 - 103
Point and laugh..Better than Improv
OK...I have to admit to being depressed but if we don't laugh at the stupidity and ignorance we will all go insane because they are all Batshit crazy. We forgot how ridiculous W was but this bunch ...
Vetwife 08/16/2011 6 3 - 69
I Have had it! Had it! Had it!
There is so much going on that it is hard to keep up with one abuse after another..I am calling on Americans to stand up and show up. I will list the outrageous things happening brought to you daily ...
Vetwife 08/18/2011 9 32 - 339
Every Man a King... Calling the Kingfish
Many of the young people never heard of a Huey P Long. I am not from Louisiana but I am from the south and every democrat that is left of the center down here knows who the Kingfish was. Keep in ...
Vetwife 08/22/2011 43 11 - 89
The President and 1st Lady wrote me
at two different times . Tonight , I got something from the campaign and last week got a conference call I couldn't take from Illinois campaign headquarters. What does the President care what I ...
Vetwife 08/31/2011 16 7 - 175
Fla. done jumped the shark again!
OK...Welcome to the Beautiful state of Florida. We hve beaches and great food. We have terrific seafood and The Scott Gestapo. What did you say? I said ,we have....you get the drift. I was ...
Vetwife 09/02/2011 28 15 - 205
Vetlife with Vetwife show and boycott
Due to the overwhelming diaries and responses of some of our fine Kossacks, my co host and myself had decided to postpone the show of our premier of Vetlife with Vetwife until next week ....to stand ...
Vetwife 09/11/2011 3 27 1 97
Boycott State of Ga
This is not really a big diary. I think with as much evidence that was presented to the Pardon and Parole Board not counting the millions of people and even the Pope standing against the death of ...
Vetwife 09/20/2011 15 15 1 110
Great Experiment ...Miserable Failure
I am saying this with some disappointment but it must be said. The Vetlife with Vetwife and Friends showed great potential but a very wise Kossack on here once told me (llbear) a great friend, ...
Vetwife 09/23/2011 10 2 - 80
Slip Sliding Away
I know it is not just me. Everywhere I look, depressing as it may seem, Americans, America and we as humans are slip sliding away. There is so much greed and corruption and the Oh, it is all about ...
Vetwife 09/26/2011 25 12 - 129
Oh the horror and the puritans
Well again I am so glad to have left Georgia but very proud of my good friend and attorney for standing up for the arts against the backwoods hypocritical puritans. The Rocky Horror Picture Show......
Vetwife 09/28/2011 6 6 - 82
Isn't it about time to Occupy the Media?
The entire media cannot ignore Occupy Wall Street if the Media was occupied as well. remember in They Live....The whole key was Channel 54. Most people are not aware of this huge demonstration due ...
Vetwife 10/02/2011 28 26 - 152
Tell Us What You See
Tell us what you see. Do it by interview. Do it by documentation or video but do it. I have for the past two days really started looking and observing. I want to report what I am seeing in America.
Vetwife 10/04/2011 123 149 5 494
99 percent of Americans are Unamerican
according to GOP Herman Cain. So typical coming from the Republican party. Cain made this statement in St. Petersburg, Fl. Can someone please explain who this person expects to be voting for him......
Vetwife 10/06/2011 11 11 1 112
Tell me what you see part II
I went looking again in my community but I also decided we needed to start looking at the different stories at the hundreds of Occupy locations that the media of course is not reporting. Here is ...
Vetwife 10/10/2011 1 5 - 42
OWS ..Times Square Billboard...coming soon
I found this article and found it just too cool. No tea party movement ever got that accomplished !!!! Remind me of the Movie Turk 182. The eighties movie . I sure hope it happens..
Vetwife 10/12/2011 6 22 - 167
Black and Blue..perfect OCW ribbon
I was wondering if there was a ribbon in place to show solidarity and did a google search and found this page but with only 35 supporters. Do any of you know if there is a National Ribbon one could ...
Vetwife 10/15/2011 12 5 - 71
The VA Regional asking about church services?
OK..I am a bit ticked, and that is putting it mildly. Everyone who knows me knows that with the recession/depression, rising food costs, gas costs, and schools anywhere in the south but ...
Vetwife 10/24/2011 27 14 - 144
Operation Fresh Start or let's bail out Main street !
I have and have had an answer to our economic woes for a very long time. Hand out? No more so than Wall Street. It is time to bail out Main Street. I wrote a letter of which I am sure the ...
Vetwife 10/27/2011 9 2 - 41
Did Glen Beck help the Oakland PD
Check this out. I found this on Twitter from think Progress and we all know Beck is dangerous but how many Beck lovers serving with the Oakland PD heard this and did this dangerous out of control ...
Vetwife 10/27/2011 15 13 - 204
###Occupy Wall Street and end of monthers and desperation
Here we are on the 28th day and on the phone with someone who is on disability and a fixed income. I can feel the pain and the tears because that end of the month thing hits me every end of the ...
Vetwife 10/28/2011 31 23 - 110
OCCUPY INVERNESS .....RIGHT NOW STARTED !
This diary is going to be short but I am begging anyone in the middle Florida area to join Occupy Inverness ..WE ARE THE 99 PERCENT. Three people and more joining are now occupying Inverness, ...
Vetwife 10/29/2011 9 16 1 91
The Most Patriotic City in America 2009 has occupation movement..will they pass the test?
All eyes will be peeled to this little town of approximately 8000 people. They have a lot to live up to. In the year 2009 this little town was named the MOST PATRIOTIC TOWN IN AMERICA. Now comes ...
Vetwife 10/30/2011 5 10 - 130
My Iraqi combat vet neighbor and # OWS...He stands ..literally
I told my neighbor and friend and Iraqi vet who just finished two tours of Iraq about OWS Saturday when I heard about it. I will call him John (not his real name) He asked where my vet was. They ...
Vetwife 10/31/2011 15 35 - 185
Veterans Day 2011 ....Disgraceful !
I am angry. I am furious and I am calling on the Veteran organizations and veteran and military communities to burn up the phones with a Investigations and accountability and justice for two Iraqi ...
Vetwife 11/04/2011 19 22 - 136
Breaking...Atlanta OWS ..Police
This diary is short and do not know where Horace is but Livestream showing Atlanta arrests are imminent. The story is CLEAR out the 99ers. On the live stream they are posting numbers and a huge ...
Vetwife 11/05/2011 85 30 1 350
Ows is peaceful Contrast Tea party with guns ...No police except attending
This makes me furious. The constitution said Peaceful Assembly. I was interested to see the contrast after this mess in Atlanta, Oakland, New York and other places. Do you want to know why the ...
Vetwife 11/06/2011 34 13 - 135
2 weeks away and no turkeys..about to throw in towel !
I am so furious about watching all my hard work and time for helping vets just drift off like everything else I have worked so hard for. Back in 2000 when I started UVA I had such a vivid dream ...
Vetwife 11/08/2011 17 22 - 176
I occupied before Occupying was Cool....Check this out. BUSTED !!!
Back in Feb 2010 I spoke for the first time to a fellow Kossack after I posted news about a principal in Georgia I WAS very concerned about. Oh yes..Very concerned. This Kossack and I discussed ...
Vetwife 11/09/2011 17 18 - 199
Thinking and Thanking you 11-11-11
There are no words to express my gratitude to you. Peace and comfort to each and everyone of you. When I walk in the morning dew, I think of all of you. I know this is a very hard time for most ...
Vetwife 11/10/2011 10 12 1 62
MIC Checked ...Eric Cantor.. ha! ha !
This was entertaining, as I caught the news elsewhere but if this has already been diaried I will delete. He was speaking at Rice University and hid like a chickenhawk ...that of which he is, and ...
Vetwife 11/13/2011 219 285 3 2254
Operation Billboard and Banner Time
The 99er Truth in pictures The ...
Vetwife 11/16/2011 9 13 - 105
This is Torture ..I am too mad to type!
This is torture. These tactics came straight out of Hell. Jail every single one of these people. This will spread. We knew they were out of hand. We knew they were beating but NOW...after ...
Vetwife 11/18/2011 62 49 2 407
The Patriot Act in video...Your freedom is limited !
I think we are so missing the point regarding Freedom of Speech. I wondered why all the legislators and all the power people are so silent regarding the outrageous behavior of the Chancellor and UC ...
Vetwife 11/21/2011 3 4 - 41
Cops gone Wild..Enough ...Arresting small kids?
I am not exaggerating one single word. It is true that Little Pitchers have big ears. I was reading where a 5 year old was arrested.. Yes arrested for Battery on a Police Officer. My six year old ...
Vetwife 11/25/2011 17 27 - 221
ALERT !!! Most important thing today ! Under siege?
Please go to this diary and read. No matter what is happening on the planet today..This bill affects or could possibly affect every single one of us. Today or tomorrow according to the ACLU....and ...
Vetwife 11/28/2011 73 91 2 770
The New America...A scary place
I do not recognize this country. I see faces with stress and oppression. I see police looking like Stormtroopers and a 100 bill is more like 10.00 now days. I come to this place to vent and ...
Vetwife 11/29/2011 49 30 - 188
Occupy the courts...700 plus...That is what should happen !
I have thought about this for some time but all of those people arrested back in the fall go to court next week. I would not plead guilty and accept a deal. No Way ! I speak as a person who ...
Vetwife 12/14/2011 14 8 - 72
Newt....Mic Check..Iowa...Ha Ha !!
This is not a real long diary because the video is well worth watching the GinGrinch who got mic checked in Iowa. Unlike his Mic Check in Florida..he stood there and took it, He was told in no ...
Vetwife 12/14/2011 14 30 - 222
Hard Rock candy Christmas in 1975 ..my favorite story
First of all I want to say that this time of year is full of memories and sometimes heartache and a blender of emotion. I think all have a favorite holiday story in their life. This year, many ...
Vetwife 12/16/2011 35 49 - 274
There must be an easier way to earn wings !!!! UVA Christmas Drive
Well, here I am again with hat in hand needing a few Clarence the angels from wherever I can round them up. I know we have a lot of fundraising going on in a lot of areas but I am posting what I ...
Vetwife 12/17/2011 9 30 - 122
Congressman Nugent sent a personal letter to me..I am registered D ..whats up?
I had no clue Congressman Nugent had my name or mailing addy. I am a registered Dem but no matter about that, this idea he relayed to me IMO is a pretty darn good one. (I hope) Are they willing ...
Vetwife 12/19/2011 14 4 - 121
I told you Ga. is Bat#$%^ Crazy
So, I went to check my email. I still get mail from Ga Democrats. WOW ! Moved just in the knick of time. Now that Fig Newton has dropped in the polls and the president has risen in the polls......
Vetwife 12/21/2011 42 36 - 274
I lived every word of this song today
This is not about me but It is a reminder. This is about the Holiday Season as every day should be regarding humanity. I had gone down to pick up some milk and getting over my annual flu bug ...
Vetwife 12/22/2011 58 82 - 443
Point and Laugh at the GOP and Bush style for years end of 2011
Lest we not forget to have a really great time and I can think of no better way online than to laugh at the mindless, clueless, and those fruitcakes who brought us soooo much misery and gloom but ...
Vetwife 12/31/2011 3 9 - 85
Blogging, knitting, whittling..Only difference ..the era !
I have given this a considerable amount of thought. Nowdays we are digital. We are digital TV, radio, car parts, thermostats, blood pressure cuffs, thermometers, dishwashers, stoves......You name ...
Vetwife 01/04/2012 15 12 - 70
Happy Birthday Daddy..Will you know me tomorrow?
My Father will be 88 tomorrow. He was born Jan, 10th. Alzheimers is a very cruel and heartbreaking disease. I hear so many people say, You still have your Dad, you are fortunate". I don't have ...
Vetwife 01/09/2012 109 99 - 409
228 Days and we will be overrun with Them !
Ahhhh...Florida. The place for sand, cool gentle breezes, beautiful sunsets, unbelievable sunrises, warm weather and come August .... THEM. The Republican National Convention will ...
Vetwife 01/11/2012 19 9 - 92
Stop Hiring..Says Tea Party Nation
Well, this is unbelievable. If is is a dupe...I apologize. I read this and dropped my jaw. First of all, there will be some people who will actually listen to the likes of Sara Palin who is behind ...
Vetwife 01/15/2012 36 41 1 311
OPEN LETTER TO NEWT GINGRICH AND THE EVANGELICALS !!
OPEN LETTER TO NEWT AND EVANGELICALS (WARNING..MAJOR RANT) This letter is designed to give Newt Gingrich and the so called Christian movement called Evangelicals a piece of my mind. I shall first ...
Vetwife 01/18/2012 40 24 - 208
Privileged people..explain to me
I do not consider myself a poor person but the truth is, I am poor in money. We are like the majority of Kossacks, making it not week to week, or month to month, but day to day. One paycheck of ...
Vetwife 01/19/2012 70 23 - 262
Veterans being declared dead ..OUTRAGE !
I walked outside and picked up the Citrus Chronicle this morning and became so outraged I want to spread my fury and demand investigations on this matter as well as other disabled folks including ...
Vetwife 01/23/2012 20 43 - 254
What I would say to West and I am Julia Sugarbaker IRL
There are reasons I do not run for public office. I do not have the patience, nor the tact to take on ignorant,stupid people. I have a little bit, of shall we say, opionated, outspoken, attitude ...
Vetwife 01/31/2012 36 23 1 212
Something has got to give.in the land of plenty..Seriously
Something has got to seriously give, here in the land of Plenty. We have plenty of uninsured, plenty of classwarfare. We have plenty of homeless, hungry, zealots, warmongering, police who ...
Vetwife 02/02/2012 10 11 1 85
I am tired of you telling me what to do
I read a diary this morning that was wonderful about the taxes and the farmer. It was called Do you know this man? I want to give that idea a different twist because it doesn't matter if it ...
Vetwife 02/04/2012 22 9 1 247
We are a Savage Nation
No, this is not news to many on here but civility and kindness is found in few places. When the puritans set foot on the New World, they quickly summed up the red people as savages. The puritans ...
Vetwife 02/12/2012 41 19 1 207
I quit a job in 1975 over Classwarfare
I know it is so much out in the open now but all of this in your face classwar reminded me of long ago and far away in Atlanta, Ga I quit a job over the injustice of what I was trying to be forced ...
Vetwife 02/13/2012 87 125 - 724
Agent Orange..Repost of Maude and Me
Back in June I wrote a diary called Maude and Me. The responses were mostly from Vet advocates. The information and detail was heartbreaking and things in 2012 are not better, but appearing worse ...
Vetwife 02/18/2012 12 11 - 110
I am going public....VA ISSUES
Enough of this. I want to inform all of the Kossacks to please pass along any and all info you have of misstreatment of veterans at VA facilities. I am going after Florida but will have hopefully ...
Vetwife 02/23/2012 116 51 8 409
In just one week ...and the abuse
I wrote a diary about how the war on women back in the 50's 60's and 70's was horrible Know you place diary and yes in just one week , the attack is horrible. I am not shocked at what the Rush ...
Vetwife 03/03/2012 16 36 1 181
Attention Kossacks.. I rec'd a Kos mail Jimreyn passed away
My heart is heavy and don't even know how to start his announcement but this afternoon I received a Kos Mail from fellow Kossack Jimreyn suddenly passed away. I received the email from his wife ...
Vetwife 03/04/2012 91 236 2 1554
I Won't Back Down Listen 3PM EDT Monday
Oh yes Fellow Kossacks.. I am going public. Hal Donahue AF Lt Col Ret I have never thrown an idle bluff in my life and don't intend to start now. Please tune in ...
Vetwife 03/10/2012 27 66 4 391
Rush and Bush --I --II and Jeb
For those who think they Jeb will be the knight who drops in and saves the day for the GOP...they might want to think that thought again. How many have seen this video? Here is proof that Rush ...
Vetwife 03/11/2012 10 14 1 158
The War at Home...VA and DOD ...Oversight Campaign
A true activist wrote a diary about troops and veterans on Wednesday about the quagmire that many vets and troops have found themselves in. Angelajean is a beacon of activism in the military ...
Vetwife 03/15/2012 19 16 - 89