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Degrees https://www.dailykos.com/news/Degrees News Community Action Copyright 2005 - Steal what you want Sun, 26 Jan 2020 04:28:55 +0000 Sun, 26 Jan 2020 04:28:55 +0000 Daily Kos rss@dailykos.com (Daily Kos) Daily Kos rss@dailykos.com (Daily Kos) Education and our electoral challenges... https://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/2/15/1741427/-Education-and-our-electoral-problems <h4>Education level represents the biggest shift in support that led to what happened in 2016</h4> While it is important that we have moved on from the 2016 election and forge the coalition we need to win moving forward, there is a component of our election losses from 2010 to 2016 that just has not been fully addressed and needs our attention. That is what happened to our support from people that do not hold college degrees. These numbers represent the change from 2012 cycle to 2016. <ul> <li>We lost 4.7 million votes from non-degree holders while gaining 5 million votes from degree holders. For the first time in any American political parties history, we got more votes from college graduates than non-graduates. Sounds good, but it's not for a variety of reasons we will get into below.</li> <li>Trump gained 2.3 million votes from non-degree holders and lost about 400,000 votes from degree holders compared to Romney’s 2012 totals.</li> </ul> In 2008 the vote for Obama was around 39,000,000 votes. That is the largest block of votes any Democratic presidential candidate has ever gotten from any cohort. Heck, Obama even surpassed Reagan’s slaughter of Mondale with this group (Kerry actually drew the second largest vote from this group). It was by far our largest bloc throughout our parties history (a lot of factors there, of course, principal among them the low number of degree holders historically, but still that means it is important). Non-degree holding voters dropped off by roughly 8 million votes since that high water mark. College degree holders are now our largest voting bloc by education level. That is a bad thing in our system. <h4>Why is it a bad thing our biggest voting bloc is college graduates?</h4> Look, I am not an anti-intellectual by any stretch of the imagination, although I do feel we have turned too many of our issue discussions into being comprehensible to only those familiar with the academic discourse on the topic. That is something to guard against. But the main problems with our largest voting bloc being degree holders include: <ul> <li>It bear’s repeating, the largest voting bloc for any party in history was nondegree holders for Obama in 2008. To have it drop from that pinnacle by nearly 8 million votes in just 2 cycles should alarm us, and I am not sure why it doesn’t. If I remember correctly it is now only our 3rd largest voting bloc.</li> <li>The states with the highest percentage of degree holders per population are most of the solidly blue states. Running up the score with degree holders will not help us win majorities in the Senate, House or the Presidency if we are losing support from non-degree holders by the millions each cycle. I have a handy table to illustrate the problem below.</li> <li>And, despite our own bit of mythology building, the problem is not confined to white working class workers without degrees. We lost white and non-white non-degree holders at a similar rate between 2012 and 2016.</li> </ul> <h4>This is not simply a white working class problem we face</h4> Let’s look at data related to bullet 3 first. This chart represents a chaotic state in the Democratic cohort based on education level and race. The loss of non-degree holders is evenly distributed by race. (an important note, I went with white versus nonwhite construct for two reasons. The first, people think the “economic argument people” make is only meant to be about white working class non-degree holding voters, that is not the case. PoC without degrees are not satisfied with us either. Secondly, I used the white v nonwhite construct because I pooled data since the 1976 election for some analysis and racial reporting quality varied radically over the 40 intervening years, so getting more granular was too difficult to do without the data becoming unreliable. Here is a quick table highlighting this point: <div class="table-wrapper"> <table class="dk5-table" width="270"> <caption>DEMOCRATIC VOTES FOR THOSE WITHOUT DEGREES</caption> <tbody> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">Year</td> <td style="vertical-align:top">White Non Degree</td> <td style="vertical-align:top">NonWhite Non Degree</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">2012 Election</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 18,891,958 </td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 16,044,851 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">2016 Election</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 16,315,933 </td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 13,972,588 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">Change</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> (2,576,025)</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> (2,072,263)</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">% Change</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">-14%</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">-13%</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> There is a difference, but only a negligible one. We did lose half a million more white non-degree holding votes, but as a percent of the total vote from nondegree holders, the rate of change is almost identical no matter the race. How did Trump do along these lines? <div class="table-wrapper"> <table class="dk5-table" width="438"> <caption>REPUBLICAN VOTES FOR THOSE WITHOUT DEGREES</caption> <tbody> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">Year</td> <td style="vertical-align:top"> WHITE NONCOLLEGE</td> <td style="vertical-align:top">NONWHITE NONCOLLEGE</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">2012 Election</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 29,443,548 </td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 2,851,688 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">2016 Election</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 30,370,198 </td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 4,268,602 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">Change</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 926,649 </td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top"> 1,416,915 </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">% Change</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">3%</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">50%</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> Comparing these two tables we can see that we lost 4.7 million votes from nondegree holders across all races and the rate of loss was similar between whites and the other racial categories combined. Meanwhile, Trump only gained 2.3 million votes across races, with a significantly higher rate of increase in support from nonwhite voters without a college degree. Most of these voters left us, they did not vote Trump. We must come to terms with this reality. <h4>THE CONSEQUENCES OF OUR booming support from degree holders and oiur COLLAPSING SUPPORT FROM NON-DEGREE HOLDERS</h4> This section related to bullet two above. Here is a summary table of the states partisan makeup broken down into quintiles by education level. What that means is I looked at the % of people in each state with bachelor's degrees or higher and ranked them from top to bottom based on the highest to lowest % of degree holders. The summary itself just bundles the top 10 states by education level, then the next 10 and then the next 10 and so on. I also break out the number of congressional delegations where either party has a majority of the members in Congress. <div class="table-wrapper"> <table class="dk5-table" width="667"> <caption>PARTISAN BREAKDOWN IN STATES RANKED BY EDUCATION LEVEL: PRESIDENTIAL RESULTS AND CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION STRENGTH</caption> <tbody> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">Education Level Rank by Quintile</td> <td style="vertical-align:top">Clinton States</td> <td style="vertical-align:top">Trump States</td> <td style="vertical-align:top">Democratic Delegations</td> <td style="vertical-align:top">Republican Delegations</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">1st Quintile (ranks 1-10)</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">10</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">0</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">8</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">2</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">2nd Quintile (ranks 11-20)</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">7</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">3</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">7</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">3</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">3rd Quintile (ranks 21 - 30)</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">1</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">9</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">0</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">10</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">4th Quintile (ranks 31 - 40)</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">1</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">9</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">1</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">9</td> </tr> <tr> <td style="vertical-align:top">5th Quintile (ranks 41 - 50)</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">1</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">9</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">1</td> <td align="right" style="vertical-align:top">9</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> <ul> <li>In the top 10 states with the most degree holding people, Clinton won all 10 and Democrats control 80% of the congressional delegations.</li> <li>In the 2nd 10 states with the most degree holding people, Clinton won 7 of those 10 states and Democrats control 70% of all congressional delegations.</li> <li>In the 30 states in the last three quintiles, with the fewest numbers of college degree holding voters, Clinton won only 3 states and Democrats only control 2 of those congressional delegations.</li> </ul> There are a ton of factors at work here, but the above summary highlighting the fact that running up the vote with college degree holders will not help us win Presidential elections if all our victories are confined to only the most educated states. We must expand our reach to some of these other states. <h4>A FEW EDITORIAL COMMENTS, PLEASE DISCUSS</h4> I do find it of interest that the one state we won in the lowest quintile was Nevada, a state with robust unions supported energetically by the local party. I have reviewed data by all sorts of voting cohorts, race, gender, education, income level and crossing referencing all of these cohorts. The only cohort we are seeing this kind of dynamic change in is education level. The rate we are bleeding these nondegree holding voters away is likely part of why we have had such electoral troubles over the period of 2010 to 2016. Finally, the record number from support from Obama from the nondegree holding cohort was not simply a function of “Star Quality”. The growth in support from this group was slight, Kerry pulled down the second largest vote from this group in 2004 (behind Obama). The "star Power Effect," if you ascribe to such a thing, only drew in about 300,000 more votes from non-degree holders, while Obama saw a spike of about 9.5 million votes from degree holders <h4></h4> rss@dailykos.com (pdxbuckeye) Clinton College Degrees Democrats Education Elections NoDegrees Obama POC Race romney trump WhiteWorkingClass WWC _1741427 Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:29:44 +0000 46 Degree Programs Eliminated Across UNC College System https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/5/26/1387816/-46-Degree-Programs-Eliminated-Across-UNC-College-System                               <a href="https://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images_placeholders/deleted_large.png?1432650759"><img src="https://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images_placeholders/deleted_large.png?1432650759" /></a> I guess the North Carolina Board of Governors educational planning committee for the University educational system didn't think these programs were important to our education of our young adults, or warranted due to "market forces"... <blockquote>“We’re capitalists, and we have to look at what the demand is, and we have to respond to the demand.”  - Board member Steven Long. </blockquote> So now our college educational system, of which North Carolin's had been the example and envy of most of the state systems in this country, is under the scrutiny of "market forces".   Want to see which one they eliminated from the main univesity campus of UNC in Chapel Hill? <blockquote>Thursday morning, the Board of Governors educational planning committee voted to discontinue 46 degree programs across the UNC-System, including one at UNC-Chapel Hill: human biology</blockquote> "Human Biology"???? W.T.F.? Follow me below to view the degree programs to be eliminated, and from which campuses.... rss@dailykos.com (LamontCranston) CollegeEducation Community Degrees Education North Carolina NorthCarolina Recommended _1387816 Tue, 26 May 2015 15:48:49 +0000 For those of you that went to college: A question https://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/1/1333773/-For-those-of-you-that-went-to-college-A-question I have a question to ask my fellow Kossacks that have been fortunate enough to go on to attend college. Would you, given the choice again, select the same major, as the one in which you graduated with? Or would you now, knowing what you know, have selected something different? I graduated with a BS, MS, and Ph.D., in Psychology and I'd after much debate keep the same major though I would have given up the minor in Political Science for one in History... a minor change perhaps but still a change. If you've multiple degrees and they are in multiple fields, the same question still applies.... would you, if you could "trade" one in for something else, all things being equal? How about you? Would you have changed? Have you ever given this topic any thought.... or am I the only one to do so? rss@dailykos.com (BFSkinner) College Degrees Education Majors Recommended School switch Time _1333773 Thu, 02 Oct 2014 04:02:17 +0000 Whistles, clipboards, and energy drinks* https://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/7/10/1222189/-Whistles-clipboards-and-energy-drinks Coaching Science 101 Final Exam [You have three hours] Answer ONE of the following (The first question has two (2)--count 'em out, as we practiced--parts) 1) Write your opening statement that you would give to a room full of reporters concerning allegations that your star running back has been found in a motel room with an underage girl, a professional agent, a booster's credit card, and a half pound of Cocaine (You must include the phrase "quality individual" and "we don't air our dirty laundry in public" in your answer). 2) Within two, how many times does the word "ride" appear in the OSU fight song?                                                       or 1) In a 200-word essay, who's your favorite coach of all time? Why? (Open book permitted) Oklahoma State University is now offering a new minor in <a href="http://www.newson6.com/story/22787876/osu-adds-coaching-science-minor">Coaching Science</a>. Yes, a degree which will include, I imagine, all the challenges facing today's coaches: x's and o's, sneaker deals, first wives, recruitment violations, sideline pacing, headset wearing techniques, and how to refer to yourself in the third person. The course of study, which will require 18 hours, will be open, the school says, to any student in any discipline who are interested in coaching. In any program? Really? "Son, look, constitutional law is great, but the law is a fickle mistress and nobody ever made any real money deconstructing the Warren Court. Take the coaching minor. You never know. There is always a need for those who know how to install the nickel package." In a related story (and you can decide how distant the relations), Oklahoma State University had some of the worst football and basketball <a href="http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/OSU_football_and_basketball_last_among_current_Big/20130611_93_0_Oklaho560909">graduation rates</a> in the Big 12. <blockquote>OSU’s football program raised its score from 903 to 947 in 2011-12 but has a four-year average of 926, the lowest among current Big 12 schools and third-worst among BCS schools. A score of 925 equals a 50 percent graduation rate. Although Cowboy basketball had a perfect 1,000 score in 2011-12, its rate stayed at 928 for a second straight four-year period, also the lowest in the conference.</blockquote> And let's face it, if you offer a coaching minor, you're offering it so your athletes who are having difficulty with Proust and the Magna Carta can have some success in the "off" part of the on and off the field cliche. Solution: lower the academic bar (say to the earth's inner core) so more of them will clear it. And the coaching minor not only does that, it augments quite nicely the major you offer in <a href="https://registrar.okstate.edu/images/DRS2011-2012/SSB/bus12.pdf">Sports Management</a>, which requires students to maintain a GPA of 2.0 and--hold on to your mortar boards--two actual math courses. But the degree of difficulty to get a minor in coaching isn't even that steep. <blockquote>The program is coordinated by Tim Baghurst, assistant professor in health and human performance in the College of Education. Baghurst says the college surveyed high school athletic directors, who said that a coaching science program will help better prepare future coaches.</blockquote> Ah, yes, a better crop of assistant high school wrestling coaches. And, really, isn't that what college is all about? <a href="https://admissions.okstate.edu/paying-college">OSU</a> runs about $18-thousand a year for in-state students, about 30K for out of state, which as Eddie Albert said in the original <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eohrZLdf2g">THE HEARTBREAK KID</a> (we don't talk about the remake with Ben Stiller around the dinner table), "is a lot of balls and bats." One more thing: I'm begging you. Please stop with the coaching science business. This has as much to do with science as I do with parterres. (*not included in course fees) <a href="http://www.lyricsondemand.com/miscellaneouslyrics/fightsongslyrics/oklahomastatefightsonglyrics.html">Oklahoma State Fight Song</a>, <a href="http://www.sectiononewrestling.com/documents/302.html">wrestling terms</a> rss@dailykos.com (vuzvilla) Community Degrees HigherEducation Law Oklahoma Sports _1222189 Wed, 10 Jul 2013 11:00:11 +0000 3.4 Million More Jobs Needed in 2013 https://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/4/8/1200037/-3-4-Million-More-Jobs-Needed-in-2013 And that's just to break even with today's jobless numbers. Oh, did I say only 3 million? It could be as many as 7 million. When I was a teenager I couldn't wait for two things (1) getting my drivers license and (2) moving out of my parent's house. It wasn't because my parents were abusive or anything (although, like most teenagers, at the time I thought they were); but because I was just very independent and wanted my freedom. I wanted to be out on my own. That was 40 years ago. I'm so glad that I'm not 18 years old today. I dropped out of high school in my senior year and found a good job right away. But that was then, and this is now, and today even college graduates are having a hard time finding work. According to the <a href="http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372" target="_blank">National Center for Educational Statistics</a>, America's schools and colleges have a record number of students attending school as the population has continued to increase and enrollment rates have also continued to exponentially rise. About 3.4 million students are expected to graduate from high school in the 2012-13 year. Now add to that, what the colleges and universities are also expected to award in degrees. That would total 7 million if everyone decided to look for a new job. <a href="http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372" target="_blank"><img border="0" src="http://imageshack.us/a/img809/9052/stats2s.jpg" alt="National Center for Educational Statistics" width="251" height="284" /></a> rss@dailykos.com (Bud Meyers) 99er 99ers BureauofLaborStatistics CenterforWorkforceDevelopment Colleges Degrees DepartmentofLabor Disability Education Engineering Enrollment GenerationX GenerationY graduates High School highschool JobGrowth joblessnumbers Jobs JohnHeldrich laborforce labormarket laborstatistics longtermedunemployed Mandarin MinimumWage NationalCenterforEducationalStatistics PhD Population populationgrowth Recession Retirement RutgersUniversity Schools Social Security socialnetwork SocialSecurity StudentLoans Students U-6 UnemploymentBenefits UnemploymentRate Universities _1200037 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 13:30:14 +0000 What calculator does fox use https://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/9/1159687/-What-calculator-does-fox-use or the more appropriate question would be: do those on the right even know how to use a calculator? - yes, we know they live in  bubble, but still.. Thanks to  Neil deGrasse Tyson (taken from his facebook page) you can answer this question quite easily - he has  prepared a succinct overview of why fox news continues to thrive - the data for his photo below was based on information provided in a foxbusiness article that can be found here (which in turn was taken from an earlier WSJ article) foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/10/15/americas-best-and-worst-educated-states/ Please see the image below the squiggly thingey rss@dailykos.com (cptnemo) College Degrees Education Science _1159687 Fri, 09 Nov 2012 20:43:08 +0000