https://www.dailykos.com/news/dishonorable News Community Action Copyright 2005 - Steal what you want Sun, 26 Jan 2020 05:43:34 +0000 Sun, 26 Jan 2020 05:43:34 +0000 Daily Kos rss@dailykos.com (Daily Kos) Daily Kos rss@dailykos.com (Daily Kos) https://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/12/1/1816394/-What-everyone-is-thinking-Big-test-for-the-Country-with-41-s-death-and-45-s-title <p>We are all speculating.  We only know what eyes and ears and common sense tell us.  Everyone wants to know what in the world is going to happen when a former president dies when 45 is holding the title of President.  </p> <p class="is-empty-p"></p> <p>This is a quandary for sure.   George HW Bush was a republican who voted for Hillary Clinton. ( so reports have been told)   This was a republican who was held in high regard by the republican establishment, not the conservative bunch holding office at this time.   This man had respect for past presidents and even friendships.   President Clinton had become the “adopted son” metaphorically  of the Bush family after his presidency.  </p> <p>John Meachum is a historian who looks to me like he is a bit concerned not just for the sympathies and outpouring of dignataries showing respect but Meachum knows Trump was not liked much less respected by the Bush family.   You just know John Kelley is having a cow over this untimely death when all of the news has broken about Cohen and the Russians.  Kelley and other cabinet members also know how Trump feels about the CIA, the media, and his total disrespect for anything kind and unifying.   They can’t control Trump.   Trump has no filter.  Barbara Bush detested DJ Trump.   </p> <div class="dk-editor-embed embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9 center-block"> <div class="remove-embed-content">x</div> <div class="dk-editor-embed embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9 center-block"> <div class="remove-embed-content"><a class="new_iframe_placeholder" href="#">x</a></div> <a class="iframe_placeholder youtube dk-embed" href="//youtube.com/watch?v=8CxH2iHVWUg" data-frameborder="0" data-height="281" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/8CxH2iHVWUg" data-width="500">YouTube Video</a></div> </div> <p>There is a prototcol and a sense of decency of which Donald J Trump just tramples.</p> <p>He was not invited to Barbara Bush’s funeral and the whole family made sure of that.  This is different.  The is a former head of state ..one of 45 people who head the country and this is a real problem for republicans.   If he stays away, which I hope as it would be the proper thing to do for a family but the office in which he resides, despite how he got there is another problem.  It is absolutely a no win regarding attendance being all things Trump.    The whole world will have their eyes on one man. The deceased.   Trump cannot handle comparison plus not being the center of attention BUT if he doesn’t show...then he is criticized. ( Not following protocol and not having a filter which could really be a mess)</p> <p class="is-empty-p"></p> <p>  The former President  served in WWII, the Father of another president and friends with the Clintons.   All of the things Trump hates, including Head of the CIA, the very establishment he ist trying to break.   George HW Bush was a friend of the media. ( in a positive way) compared to Trump.</p> <p class="is-empty-p"></p> <p>  I personally did not the politics of Bush I or II.   I thought Bush II was the worst president ever, until I really saw how bad a president could be.   This one is something else.   </p> <p class="is-empty-p"></p> <p>I do not believe Former President Obama just dropped in to visit the Bush family 3 days ago.  I have no proof but I believe he was called in by the family.   When other people say, “ It’s time to call in the family”, I believe leaders, probably say, “ It’s time to call in the Head of State or at least the one we recognize as head of state”.</p> <p>  Maybe it was all coincidence but one thing for sure..Trump is happy all eyes are off him for a bit regarding the media but oh they are not.  They may not be talking Russia meddling but they are talking about decency and comparing.  He may not can contain himself with this comparison with republcian presidents.</p> <p>I would say there are some mighty politically minded people sitting on the republican side of the fence terrified of how this whole funeral is going to go down with the Liar in Chief who cannot control his mouth, his anger and already out of control.    We have already seen how the McCain thing went down.</p> <p>We do live in interesting times.   This test of decency or protocol is out of the test phase and within the next week, we will know just how far down the rabbit hole we are.   Bush was a WWII Veteran. They fought Nazis.  Trump thinks Nazis are great.   Bush signed th Americans with Disabilities Act and Trump makes fun of disabled people.   Yeah like I said above… What a mess this could be.   The media is already playing sound bytes of how a President is supposed to show respect for all the people.</p> <p>Dissing Bush I.  How can he attend when he believes Bush IS the founder of the Deep State.   I mean wait for his cult following start this talking point in   3..2..1</p> <div class="dk-editor-embed embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9 center-block"> <div class="remove-embed-content">x</div> <div class="dk-editor-embed embed-responsive embed-responsive-16by9 center-block"> <div class="remove-embed-content"><a class="new_iframe_placeholder" href="#">x</a></div> <a class="iframe_placeholder youtube dk-embed" href="//youtube.com/watch?v=Ecbij5DctFU" data-frameborder="0" data-height="281" data-src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Ecbij5DctFU" data-width="500">YouTube Video</a></div> </div> rss@dailykos.com (Vetwife) Bush dishonorable funerals Honor Recommended Republicans trump _1816394 Sat, 01 Dec 2018 13:35:22 +0000 https://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/8/657625/-The-Dishonorable-Presidential-Campaign-of-Senator-John-McCain-Is-Losing-Enough <p>The press is characterizing John McCain&rsquo;s concession speech as "gracious." &nbsp;The campaign tactics of McCain and his oh-so cute running mate Sarah Palin, seem to be forgotten. &nbsp;We&rsquo;ve got a new "news cycle" to disentangle, it&rsquo;s a new day. &nbsp;Let&rsquo;s forget about it all and move on many say.</p> <p>But while we might want to forget about a nasty campaign, we cannot forget that our new President will preside over what is still one of the &nbsp;most divided countries in the world. &nbsp;Almost half of the electorate, 57,358,053 people by the last count, voted against our President-elect. &nbsp; (And, in case you forgot, Rush Limbaugh still thinks Mr. Obama is a "Chicago thug," even more so now that Obama picked as his chief-of-staff a brethren "thug.")</p> <p>Although our division may not be quite as wide as it has been in the past, it&rsquo;s deeper than ever.</p> rss@dailykos.com (Knappster) Accountability apologize Apology dishonorable Divide division Lies. Rove LiesRove mcCain rovian Unethical _657625 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:32:44 +0000 https://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/9/625305/-We-Did-It <p>Democrats , we did it.</p> <p>This time , WE did it. We have John Mc Cain right where we want him. Remember how we were worried that the Republicans would be able to put our candidate in a box and make whatever they projected on him stick ? Well, it didn't work. Instead , we are the ones who exposed John Mc Cain , opened the lid on the box revealing him for what he really is and we made the truth about John Mc Cain stick.</p> rss@dailykos.com (WeBetterWinThisTime) dishonorable Erratic Incompetant John Mc Cain JohnMcCain Shame _625305 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:53:36 +0000 https://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/7/622062/-The-Dishonorable-John-McCain <p>From <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/dishonorable.html">FactCheck.org</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>McCain-Palin ad distorts Obama's remark on Afghanistan and support for troop-funding bills.</p> <p>Summary</p> <p>A McCain-Palin ad calls Obama "dishonorable," while distorting his words and votes on troop funding.</p> <p>The McCain-Palin campaign released the ad, titled "Dangerous," and said it would be televised nationally. It recycles a misleading, 14-month-old charge that Sen. Barack Obama disrespected U.S. troops fighting in Afghanistan by accusing them of "just air-raiding villages and killing civilians." It also misrepresents votes in favor of withdrawing troops from Iraq as being votes "increasing the risk on their lives." </p> </blockquote> <p>It's almost sad to see John McCain throw his character and honor under the bus like this...well, it's sad until you realize that he's done so by hurling lies, smearing others, and fostering an atmosphere of hate in a desperate attempt to save his failing campaign. And that's not sad, it's simply dishonorable.</p> rss@dailykos.com (Barbara Morrill) 2008 Barack Obama BarackObama dishonorable John McCain JohnMcCain President _622062 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:00:19 +0000 https://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/14/598561/-Rove-Criticizes-McCain-s-Dishonesty-STRONG-Response-from-Team-Obama <p><a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/mccains_lying_has_gone_too_far.php">Via TPM</a>, in a sure sign that his systematic lying is backfiring, the man who put the Rove in Rovian has criticism (albeit gentle) for McCain:</p> <blockquote> <p>Well, McCain has gone in some of his ads -- similarly gone one step too far, and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the 100-percent-truth test. </p> </blockquote> rss@dailykos.com (david mizner) dishonorable John McCain JohnMcCain Karl Rove KarlRove Liar Lying Recommended Truthiness _598561 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:11:22 +0000 https://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/10/593927/-Factheck-160-McCain-is-Lying-About-Us <p>Check <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/158265">this</a> out. &nbsp;Factcheck.org just said that McCain is not being honest about Factcheck.org itself. &nbsp;Isn&rsquo;t this a riff that writes itself, perhaps for Letterman, a stump speech or an ad?</p> <blockquote> <p>John McCain is so dishonest that he now is even lying about what the objective factcheckers are saying. &nbsp;It&rsquo;s enough to make your head spin. &nbsp;Because his campaign has been caught out in lie after lie, John McCain put out an ad claiming that a neutral fact checking organization called Barack Obama dishonest. &nbsp;But that organization said McCain is the only one being dishonest. &nbsp;John McCain: &nbsp;George Bush's economic policies. &nbsp;Pinocchio's ethics. &nbsp; </p> </blockquote> rss@dailykos.com (LincolnDuncan) dishonest dishonorable FactCheck FactCheck.org Honesty mcCain _593927 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:50:29 +0000 https://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/29/558616/-Slipping-in-the-Shiv-ever-so-gently <p>Sit back and watch the Obamaster at work.</p> <p>One of the main reasons that Obama was able to beat Hilary was that he was able to get under Bill's skin and the infamous temper came out in too many inappropriate ways -- which was predictable given even a cursory knowledge of his temperment. &nbsp;How did Barack get to him? &nbsp;He dissed his role as The Democrat in our time. &nbsp;The king is dead, long live the king sort of stuff. &nbsp;Alpha male sort of stuff. &nbsp;</p> <p>Fast forward to John McCain...</p> rss@dailykos.com (SweetMartha) 2008 Barack Obama BarackObama Bill Clinton BillClinton dishonorable John McCain JohnMcCain _558616 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:09:37 +0000