In the wake of recent wobbles, we're looking at our list and carefully evaluating the members whose votes we feel good about. We don't want to encourage people to give money to members of Congress unless we believe that they intend to stand by their commitments. You'll find these members with Rep. Grijalva and Rep. Ellison on our Health Care Heroes Act Blue Page. So far, we've raised $11,470 and we'd like to raise more to encourage this kind of committed progressive leadership.
The fundraising response to Joe Wilson's outburst was impressive, but he's in an extremely conservative district and we can't expect it to be a progressive stronghold. We should also remember to rewarding those who are always there for us, who we count on to defend progressive values. Progressive leaders like Rep. Grijalva need our help right now, and they very much deserve it.
INTERVIEW WITH REP. RAUL GRIJALVA (PT. 1)
JH: I want to thank you so much for your leadership on healthcare, you really led the charge; it's been really inspirational.
RG: Thank you. I don't know if it's inspirational, but we've been...on that issue, I'm not trying to divide the party, or be obstructionist, or try to demean the Obama Administration. As I tell people over and over, we're just trying to be consistent with what we started to say a long time ago. When single payer got taken off the table, the last toe hold we had left was the public plan. With that removed, then you're basically replicating what's already there, and that's not going to work.
We're going to get pressure that additional people will be brought on to the rolls for Medicaid. We're going to get pressure that the reforms being instituted on the insurance companies, regulatory issues. We're going to get pressure that the law will include no preexisting conditions denial. And, all that being said though, without an independent, competitive, consumer-driven public plan, fundamentally we're going to end up subsidizing the same companies to pick up more poor people now. We're going to subsidize...Plan D gets left alone, so we never close that donut hole, and so we continue to spend $850 million a year to subsidize the pharmaceuticals to give the benefit that they should give anyway,
I think there's going to be tremendous pressure on all of us individually that a win is a win. I think that enough time has passed that we get the opportunity to evaluate what a win is. I understand the intentions; they're good, but now I think the American people want results. And so, that's what...
EG: And, if the President came to you and said ‘you've really got to do this for the good of the country, vote for a bill that doesn't have a public option,' what would you say to the President?
RG: I would say that we're just being consistent and that we're not the ones sabotaging this thing. That our insistence on this is based on real public policy and that we don't want a trigger, that we don't want a public plan that has no network of providers. I'm open to discussing how the rates are set, that's fine. But those two fundamental points...just...because it's all in the definition of how you define what a public option is. If you define as kind of a gesture, an empty gesture, then people can say look I have a public option, it's the content that's the issue.
I think the President respects the fact that these are principled issues that we are taking, this is not petty. I'm not doing it...I'm not saying no just to be spiteful or petulant; this is a principled vote - a principled decision. I...we don't get the opportunity to tinker with huge policy law often. This is it.
JH: Has the White House ever encouraged you on sticking to this?
RG: Yes. I think... the conversations I've had with the President have been, "I support a public option, it's politically rough to try to get it done." OK. And that we insist that, that the fight's worth it.
MS: Does Rahm Emanuel understand that?
RG: I don't know. I don't talk to him.
MS: Does he talk to anybody?
RG: Well, he doesn't talk to me, but he must talk to somebody.
JH: It's my understanding that you were the one all along who has been whipping your fellow members of the Progressive Caucus to join together: strength in numbers. I think that that has been really tremendously inspirational to people.
RG: I think it's time that our caucus grew up.
JH: Absolutely, this is a first.
RG: We have been good soldiers. We have been good accommodators. We have swallowed things that were bitter. And that's OK, that's part of the process. But, there come some principled issues that if we hang together, I believe we can be very formidable. And this is a test.
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