RKBA: Open Thread Thursday

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Thursday October 06, 2011 · 5:23 PM PDT

2011/10/06 · 17:23

Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a DKos group of second amendment supporters who also have progressive and liberal values. We don't think that being a liberal means one has to be anti-gun. Some of us are extreme in our second amendment views (no licensing, no restrictions on small arms) and some of us are more moderate (licensing, restrictions on small arms.) Moderate or extreme or somewhere in between, we hold one common belief: more gun control equals lost elections. We don't want a repeat of 1994. We are an inclusive group: if you see the Second Amendment as safeguarding our right to keep and bear arms individually, then come join us in our conversation. If you are against the right to keep and bear arms, come join our conversation. We look forward to seeing you, as long as you engage in a civil discussion. If you're just here to disrupt or troll, expect to get a Do Not Respond (DNR) comment and then be ignored. Insults, lies, and willful ignorance will be dealt with by normal community moderation. Disagreement by itself is not considered trolling.

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Wisconsin passed shall issue and it will take affect come November 1st. But there are some issues...

Republicans who run the Legislature, joined by a number of Democrats, approved the concealed weapons legislation in June, and Republican Gov. Scott Walker signed it in July. The law kicks in Nov. 1, leaving Illinois as the only state with an outright ban on carrying concealed weapons.
Van Hollen, a Republican who has long backed allowing concealed weapons, is responsible for writing administrative rules that will implement the law. Walker would have to sign off on the rules, which would also be reviewed by lawmakers.

This should be interesting. I just hope they recognize my permit. It'd be in their best interest since I don't spend my money in Wisconsin if I can help it. -KV

Michigan doesn't allow tasers at all. Or maybe it willl...

People who have a concealed pistol license would be allowed to carry a Taser under a package of bills passed in the Senate on Tuesday morning.
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Michigan has 286,639 people with a valid concealed pistol license, according to the Michigan State Police. The 2010 Art, Beats & Eats festival in Royal Oak was stung with controversy when organizers tried to ban concealed weapons at the event. So many people complained the rules were changed to allow visitors to bring their handguns.
Jones said the number of licenses could increase if Tasers are legalized.

Wisconsin again: Castle Doctrine? One can only hope.

The bill strengthens what is known as the Castle doctrine and it has strong backing from the National Rifle Association and state law enforcement agencies. Before it was approved by the Assembly Judiciary Committee this week there was some debate about the definition of someone's castle or dwelling, as the bill defines it.
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The criminal law section of the state Bar Association is on record against the bill because it would require judges and juries to presume that a homeowner feared bodily harm from an intruder they shot and killed. The bar fears that could become a presumption in favor of a murderer. Supporters of the bill say that homeowners should have a right to shoot first and ask questions later if someone breaks into their house.

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