In fact they "lavish" it on their employees.
No really
Imagine that a woman starts work at Hobby Lobby tomorrow morning — July 1. She joins Hobby Lobby’s health care plan. It includes access, copay-free, to the following categories of FDA-approved birth-control:
Male condoms
Female condoms
Diaphragms with spermicide
Sponges with spermicide
Cervical caps with spermicide
Spermicide alone
Birth-control pills with estrogen and progestin (“Combined Pill)
Birth-control pills with progestin alone (“The Mini Pill)
Birth control pills (extended/continuous use)
Contraceptive patches
Contraceptive rings
Progestin injections
Implantable rods
Vasectomies
Female sterilization surgeries
Female sterilization implants
- National Review
But here are the four things not covered that we poor deluded, talking point liberals are upset about (never mind that this is in a larger part about corporations becoming religious entities which can oppress their employees with the religion of the corporate owner - corporations are people, my friend)
What Hobby Lobby will not cover are four contraceptive methods that its owners fear are abortifacients:
Plan B (“The Morning After Pill”)
Ella (a similar type of “emergency contraception”)
Copper Intra-Uterine Device
IUD with progestin
- National Review
Just a quick look at THE LIST, which some conservative are holding up as some holy writ to bash us heathen liberals with, points out some items which makes the whole list suspect.
Male condoms, female condoms, sponges with spermicide, spermicide (for use alone or in conjunction with diaphragms and/or cervical caps) are all OVER THE COUNTER, requiring NO insurance/medical coverage from Hobby Lobby.
Deroy Murdock of National Review further explains so conservatives can help us liberal simpletons out:
(This new woman at Hobby Lobby cannot use male condoms or a vasectomy, at least not directly. However, if she chose either contraceptive method, in conjunction with her husband, she would have access to it.)
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SHE HAS ACCESS TO MALE CONDOMS ANY WAY!
And here in lies the problem. A list of 16 items that Hobby Lobby will "generously and lavishly cover," in which the first 4 they are not covering in the first place. But that the unthinking, incurious will use.
There are other issues with the list which puts the list into "bullshit pasture, nestled in bullshit valley, beside bullshit mountain.
If the owners fear that those four items are abortifacients - just fear, with no proof, why are birth control pills, rings, rods, patches and injections on the touted list of approval?
The Birth Control Pill is the most popular and widely used method of hormonal contraception. It involves taking a month-long series of pills—three weeks of pills containing hormones, and one without. This allows the woman to have a menstrual period. The Pill contains two synthetic hormones, progestin and ethinyl estradiol and has three mechanisms: 1) it prevents ovulation, 2) thickens the cervical mucus, which makes it harder for sperm to enter the uterus and 3) affects the endometrium or lining of the womb to make it more hostile to implantation. This means the tiny developing baby (embryo) cannot attach to the uterine lining and dies, which is a very early abortion. Even so, they define this as "preventing pregnancy."
- life issues
I won't post their analysis of rings, rods, patches and injections. It's there if you want to read it.
So Hobby Lobby is afeared of the Copper 7 and IUDs that contain progestin (without which the IUD would be inert), but other delivery systems of progestin are fine?
The list makes no sense. But that doesn't matter, its still being touted.
“The Greens and their family businesses respect the individual liberties of all their employees. The Greens and their family businesses have no objection to the other 16 FDA-approved contraceptives required by the law that do not interfere with the implantation of a fertilized egg,” the description reads. “They provide coverage for such contraceptives under their health care plan. Additionally, the four objectionable drugs and devices are widely available and affordable, and employees are free to obtain them.”
-The Blaze
But wait, that means that your okay with those methods in the 16 FDA-approved contraceptives that your side considers abortifacients, but you said that you aren't okay contraceptive that " interfere with the implantation of a fertilized egg." but you have no proof a Copper 7 or other IUD does, but then it should be okay, but you said it's not because it's an abortifacient, but other things your side considers as interfering with the implantation of a fertilized egg, is okay, but . . . but . . .
Does not compute
Does not compute
well actually it does . . . utter bull shit.
Addendum:
As with many things the upfront cost of that uncovered IUD, especially when you have kids, rent, food, bills, etc. make it a rather heavy lift:
Unlike other forms of birth control, the IUD only costs money in the beginning. The cost for the medical exam, the IUD, the insertion of the IUD and follow-up visits to your health care provider can range from $500 to $900. That cost pays for protection that can last more than a decade.
- Planned Parenthood tumblr
"think piece"
What male employee of Hobby Lobby rapes a female employee of Hobby Lobby while using his employer covered Viagra. She is too ashamed and scared to report the crime (most rape goes unreported), but she has to pay for her Plan B/Day After/Emergency Contraception, out of her own pocket.
In effect he has raped her on the company dime but to clean up the mess and not be as affected by it she had to pay from her own pocket.
12:53 PM PT:
The point is actually moot
since the SCOTUS clarified its decision on Tuesday and said that the ruling was not just limited to the 4 contraceptives that Hobby Lobby was objecting to, but would include all contraceptives. How fast willl Hobby Lobby be to delete from its carrrier plan coverage for all contraceptives?
by buffan
Yes but conservatives are using it today to bash liberals for being "ignorant." Kind of funny watching the exchanges.
