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“Dominion was not founded in Venezuela to fix elections for Hugo Chávez,” the suit says. “It was founded in 2002 in John Poulos’s basement in Toronto to help blind people vote on paper ballots.”
Zing!!!!!!!
Dominion Voting Systems on Monday filed a lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani alleging that the former New York City mayor spread numerous defamatory statements about the voting machine company while he helped lead former President Trump's failed post-election legal campaign.
The company is seeking $1.3 billion in damages over what it called a "viral disinformation campaign," alleging that Giuliani made malicious false accusations against Dominion, including that the company had engaged in voting fraud and election fixing.
"For Dominion - whose business is producing and providing voting systems for elections - there are no accusations that could do more to damage Dominion's business or to impugn Dominion's integrity, ethics, honesty, and financial integrity," reads the 107-page complaint filed in federal court in Washington, D.C.
- Dominion Voting Systems filed a lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani on Monday.
- It accused Giuliani, lawyer to former President Donald Trump, of defamation, and is seeking more than $1.3 billion in damages.
- Giuliani had spread the conspiracy theory that Dominion used software to change votes in the November presidential election from Trump to President Joe Biden.
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In the lawsuit, Dominion accused Giuliani, former President Donald Trump's lawyer, of creating "a viral disinformation campaign about Dominion," referring to more than 50 statements he has made.
"Rudy Giuliani actively propagated disinformation to purposefully mislead voters," Dominion CEO John Poulos said in a statement. "Because Giuliani and others incessantly repeated the false claims about my company on a range of media platforms, some of our own family and friends are among the Americans who were duped."
Since Trump lost the election in November, Giuliani had spread the conspiracy theory that Dominion and Smartmatic, a rival election-technology company, developed software that flipped votes in the November election from Trump to President Joe Biden. The allegations have been thoroughly debunked.
The New York Times first reported on the lawsuit.
The lawsuit should come as no surprise to Giuliani. In December, Dominion's lawyers sent a letter to Giuliani telling him to preserve documents in anticipation of an "imminent" defamation lawsuit.
Next up, Fox News?
So, honest question for you legal-eagles out there: Dominion has to prove that Giuliani’s statements were intentional lies, right? And that there was damage to Dominion?
The damage is obvious.
But how do they prove Rudy was lying, without exposing their entire design secrets? He lied about Dominion voting machines changing Trump votes to Biden, right?
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Laying out a timeline of Mr. Giuliani’s comments about Dominion on Twitter, his podcast and Fox News, the company notes that Mr. Giuliani avoided mentioning Dominion in court, where he could have faced legal ramifications for falsehoods. “Notably, not a single one of the three complaints signed and filed by Giuliani and other attorneys for the Trump Campaign in the Pennsylvania action contained any allegations about Dominion,” the lawsuit says.
The lawsuit also links Mr. Giuliani’s false statements about Dominion to the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6, noting that he mentioned the company in his speech at a rally for Mr. Trump before the attack, as well as numerous times on social media as the Capitol was breached.
This is the next best thing to Trump being indicted.
Monday, Jan 25, 2021 · 3:17:03 PM +00:00 · AlyoshaKaramazov
Some choice quotes from around the internets:
“Rudy and whatever lawyer he can get to take his case will undoubtedly seek a change of venue from D.C. It won't work. I look forward to the D.C. jury watching him on tape defame Dominion at the insurrection pep rally, after he had been sent a detailed cease and desist letter, and then rendering its verdict”.
Good. And what about indicting Rudy for inciting the riot? Remember, he advocated "trial by combat" at the rally, and that is certainly what happened.
It may seem unusual, but the Dominion lawsuits and others like it may actually help strengthen our democracy. Out of fear of getting sued, generators and promoters of lies for money are already dialing back the lies and may take a preventive posture toward promoting falsehoods in the future. Lies spoken by the ex-president and his supporters and amplified by social media and right wing outlets are at the source of why this country is divided. If we are to strengthen our democracy (a participative decision making process), the participants MUST have truthful information to base their decisions on. Otherwise, it is garbage in, garbage out.
If nothing else, the insurers of Fox et al have already laid down the law, and made their “commenters” read statements on their shows, to eliminate liability.
Here we see the problem with doubling down. Giuliani was able to ignore the risk of getting sued when Trump owned the Justice department. Doubling down is a wonderful strategy - the best - until things change. This will be a trial balloon for Dominion, next they will sue Trump.
Monday, Jan 25, 2021 · 3:53:09 PM +00:00 · AlyoshaKaramazov
Is it just me, or has Rudy started orangeing up lately?
You can see where the orange stops and the green vampire-skin begins.
Or is he molting??
Monday, Jan 25, 2021 · 4:56:16 PM +00:00 · AlyoshaKaramazov
Questions from UsernameUnavailable, who wrote a diary at about the same time, about this.
I would still be interested in answers to the questions I asked about Dominion in mine:
Do they do only paper ballots?
Do we think they are truly the “good guys”?