We may or may not forgive these people, but the fact that some MAGA podcasters are peeling away is a BFD.
They have a lot of influence.
They have the pulse of right-wing culture.
They would not be doing this without the support of some of their audience.
This is a clip from Ben Meiselas at the Meidas Touch Network:
As watching the show takes time, giving you the show description and then the key takeaways about the reactions of the podcasters.
Show description:
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump getting abandoned by all the MAGA podcasters who can’t stomach him after his cover up of the Epstein files and Pam Bondi’s horrible hearing and Meiselas speaks with Democratic Congressman Jared Moskowitz about his reaction to being in the hearing and questioning Pam Bondi.
Here are the money morsels on the various podcasters (and I don’t know much about these people, because, you know, these are not people who interest me). I have taken the show’s automatically generated transcript and corrected some of the spelling, but the rest is how they were speaking.
LIZ WHEELER
(one of the people who showed up in February 2025 and got an “exclusive Epstein binder”). According to Ben Meiselas, here’s what she posted: “Pam Bondi’s testimony was a total disaster. In one exchanged, Congressman Jerry Nadler asked Bondi some very straightforward questions. How many of Epstein’s co-conspirators have you indicted? How many perpetrators are you even investigating? And in response, Bondi lost it. I didn’t hear any number. I didn’t hear any explanation. All I heard was a raised tone of voice, hurled insults, a flustered demeanor, and filibustering. And she [Wheeler] goes, “I don’t think the Democrats were acting in good faith.” Whatever. But she goes, “But Bondi’s catastrophic hearing yesterday and her entire handling of the Epstein files for the last year are exactly what not to do as attorney general.”
JOE ROGAN.
Here’s what Joe Rogan had to say. Let’s play it. “So we know Sultan Ahmed bin Sullean Sul Suliam [no idea about the actual spelling] sent the torture vide to Epstein. This is in 2009. Um, so Epstein was saying, that, ‘where are you? Are you okay? I love the torture video.’ Jeez. ‘I am in China. I’ll be in the US the second week of May.’ What the ???, man? And why is his name redacted? Why would your name be redacted if you’re not a victim?
ANDREW SCHULZ.
Let’s play it. “So now that we know that everybody from Trump, Patel, Bondi, Bon, you know, like everybody who was involved in this, ah, ‘this is just a hoax.’ We don’t have anything like they’re all on record saying versions of this, right? With the latest tranche, all of that is a lie. Yes. Right. We has it been [sic] proven effectively that is complete falsehood. What is a falsehood? The statements that this is just a Democrat hoax and I don’t even know what that means.
The Meidas Touch clip also includes a bit with Marjorie Taylor Greene, but it’s not really on point, and the rest of the clip is a conversation of Ben Meiselas and Congressman Jared Moskowitz. Moskowitz actually asked Bondi to let him know what the burn book had to say about him (excellent needling).
Yeah, these podcasters need to do more to make up for what they did, and people need to blame the felon more than Bondi, but it is a great sign of a huge shift.
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