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His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god.  He preferred to drop the maha- and -atman , however, and called himself Sam.  He never claimed to be a god.  But then, he never claimed not to be a god.

Published in the midst of the Psychadelic Era, Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light is an epic tale that dances on the line between Fantasy and Science Fiction.  It is not as trippy, perhaps, as his Amber series; but it creates an unusual world, immersed in Eastern mysticism and Hindu Mythology.

It has been fifty years since the soul of the Boddhisatva ascended to Nirvana.  Still, his followers and his friends pray for his return.    A group of his saffron-robed followers are staying in a monastary of Ratri, goddess of the Night, tucked away at the foot of a mountain.

It was in the days of the rains that their prayers went up, not from the fingering of knotted prayer cords or the spinning of prayer wheels, but from the great pray-machine in the monastary of Ratri, the goddess of the Night.

The high-frequency prayers were directed upward through the atmosphere and out beyond it, passing into that golden cloud called the Bridge of the Gods, which circles the entire world, is seen as a bronze rainbow at night and is the place where the red sun becomes orange at midday.

From the very beginning, we get this mixture of myth and tech; the language is that of legend and mythology, but details pop up which tell us we are seeing a science fiction story through a mythological veil.  

The story is actually set on an alien planet, that was colonized long ago, (how long?  The text is vague and rather inconsistant about that point), by settlers from Old Uratha.   Somehow -- and once again, the story is vague about how this came to be -- some members of the original crew gained powers and abilities beyond those of mortal men.  At first, they used these powers to set about taming the wild and dangerous planet. Those were wild and exciting times full of adventures which have long since passed into myth.  Over time, however, those with powers set themselves over the colonists without them, and adopted the titles and personnae of gods selected from the Hindu pantheon.  The gods kept all the technology for themselves, most particularly the mind-transfer technology which allowed them to transfer their consciousness into cloned bodies, becoming in effect a technological version of reincarnation.

One of their number, Sam, also known as Kalkin and the Binder, (and nearly a dozen other names; sometimes it's hard to keep them straight), turned against the gods, and to fight them, revived the teachings of an ancient philosopher of Old Uratha, taking on the role of the Buddha.  But the gods defeated him, and imprisoned him by transmitting his soul into the great magnetic belt surrounding the planet.

Lord Yama is the god of Death and was once the artificer of the gods; creator of incredible wonders of technology.  He was also Sam's implacable enemy, until circumstances brought them both to the same side.  Now he has built a device, hidden in Ratri's monastary, to draw Sam's atman back to the human world.

He is aided by Ratri, who had aided Sam in his earlier campaign and had been punished by the other gods; she is only permitted to reincarnate into old, weak bodies which are incapable of manifesting her full powers.  She can raise her Aspect -- that is, take on a physical form of power, in her case that of an incredibly beautiful woman -- but only for short periods; and her ability to wield her Attributes -- that is, her powers -- is greatly diminished.  She risks the further displeasure of Heaven by helping Yama because she knows Sam is their only hope of defeating them.

Tak is another friend of Sam's who has faced the displeasure of the gods.  Formerly the Chief Archivist of Heaven, he has been punished to ever walk the earth in the form of an ape.  He is shrewd and observant; and even his friends tend to underestimate him.

After sending up many kilowatts of prayer through the great metal lotus he constructed on the monastary's roof, Yama has finally succeeded.  He has captured Sam's atman, dragging it by electro-magnetic force out of Nirvana, and transferred it to the body prepared to house it.  At first, Sam seems confused and disoriented.  He is not happy to have returned to physical existance.  "Why could you not have left me as I was, in the sea of being?" he asks.

"Because a world has need of your humility, your piety, your great teaching and your Machiavellian scheming," Yama replies.

Although Sam's body is in good physical condition, Yama worries about the state of his mind.  His half century in Nirvana has changed him.  Tak observes Sam sitting and looking at a seed, and notices that he is squinting at it.  That is not the way he once taught one should regard nature.  "He does not meditate, seeking with in the object that which leads to the release of the subject," Tak says.  That is the way to Enlightenment.  Now Sam seeks to do the reverse.  "He tries once more to wrap himself within the fabric of Maya, the illusion of the world."

Yama and his friends resolve to wean him away from ascetism by providing him with physical stimulation; good food, "a courtesan or three", and long walks in the outdoors.  And it seems to be working.  But still Yama worries, because he fear the gods may have noticed his experiments and may investigate.  And because now Sam has taken to going off on his own.

One day, Tak follows Sam on one of his rambles and comes across Sam conferring with a hideous monster and surrounded by what look like living thunderbolts.  Sam and the monster are playing dice.

Afterwards, Yama explains to Tak that what he saw was not actually a demon; and here is one of my favorite passages; the one that in my opinion tips the novel into the Science Fiction side rather than fantasy:

"If by 'demon' you mean a malefic, supernatural creature, possessed of great powers, life span and the ability to temporarily assume any shape -- then the answer is no.  This is the generally accepted definition, but it is untrue in one respect. ... It is not a supernatural creature."

Tak does not see what difference this makes, but Yama continues:

"Ah, but it makes a great deal of difference, you see.  It is the difference between the unknown and the unknowable, between science and fantasy -- it is a matter of essence.  The four points of the compass be logic, knowledge, wisdom, and the unknown.  Some do bow int that final direction .  Others advance upon it.  To bow before the one is to lose sight of the three.  I may submit to the unkonwn, but never to the unknowable."

Yama goes on to explain that the Rakshasa were the original natives of the planet, creatures of pure energy.  They once had corporeal forms like humans.  "Their quest for personal immortality, however, led them along a different path from that which Man followed."    Sam was the one who defeated the Rakshasa, using his power of electromagnetic manipualtion to bind their energy-forms into magnetic bottles.  Much later, though, he released some as part of his campaign against Heaven.  Now, Sam was going off to gamble with them, putting his own body up as stakes.  "It must have been the only way he could call upon his life-will, to bind him again to his task," Yama muses; "by placing himself in jeopardy, by casting his very existence with each roll of the dice."

The next day, a stranger calling himself Aram arrives at the monastary.  He claims to have taken a vow of poverty and begs leave to stay the night.  The beggar seems very knowledgable on the subject of philosophy, and intensely curious about the saffron-robed followers of the Buddha who are also staying at Ratri's monastary.  He asks the monks if some new teacher has arisen or perhaps some old one returned, whom he might learn from.

Yama confronts the traveler.  "Why do you spell your name backward, Lord of Illusion, when all your words and actions herald it before you?"  The itinerant beggar is actually Mara, god of Illusion.  The two gods engage in battle.  Mara changes his form, several times; ultimately taking on the shape of Kali, the goddess of death and Yama's former lover; but in the end, Yama breaks the Dreamer's neck.

This makes their situation even more urgent.  The battle took place in front of witnesses and and half the monastary saw a god murdered by another one.  The gods possess technology to scan minds and replay memories, which is used by the Lords of Karma to judge which souls are worthy of reincarnation.  It is only a matter of time before Heaven learns what happened.

It's up to Sam to persuade the monks that what they saw was different than what actually happened.  It's a difficult task, and one Sam is reluctant to perform.  His time at One with the Universe has made him less comfortable with sophistry than in past lives.

"Who asked you to lie about anything?" Yama says.  "Quote them the Sermon on the Mount, if you wnat.  Or something from the Popul Voh, or the Iliad.  I don't care what you say.  Just stir them a bit, soothe them a little.  That's all I ask."

So Sam preaches a sermon to the assembled monks; one which encourages them to doubt their own witness of Yama's battle.  He also plants the seeds of a new dualism:  Beauty vs. Ugliness.  "It is difficult to stir rebellion among those to whom all things are good," he explains to Yama.  "If such a one does not choose to believe in good or evil, perhaps then beauty and ugliness can be made to serve him as well."

As Sam and his friends leave the monastary, they see the Thunder Chariot, a fighter jet designed by Yama for the god Shiva, passing overhead.  Sam's war against the gods is entering a new phase.  They board a ship bound for Khaipur, where Ratri owns another establishment; less holy than the monastary, but no less venerable; which they can use as a base.

Sailing down the river, Sam contemplates his past lives...

NEXT WEEK:  Chapter 2; Sam's reminiscences begin.  Siddhartha comes to town to buy a new body; but the world has changed.  He chats with an old friend, a new deity, and makes the decision to challenge Heaven.

Originally posted to Readers and Book Lovers on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 06:50 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (36+ / 0-)

    Late again in posting this.  Ironically, I spent the time I should have been working on the draft this afternoon watching Avatar: The Last Airbender.

    My own understanding of Hinduism, Buddhism and Hindu mythology is very sketchy, so I cannot say how much of what Zelazny lifted is authentic.  I'd welcome comments from anyone more knowledgable than I.

    "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

    by quarkstomper on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 06:48:31 PM PDT

  •  It's been a long time (12+ / 0-)

    since I've read Zelazny.  I may have to head to the book boxes and dig him out.

    Sarcasm. Just one more service I provide.

    by Grannus on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 06:58:31 PM PDT

  •  Thanks! (10+ / 0-)

    I loved Amber, but I have not read this one.  

    Seeing it explained clearly helps since I would probably not understand this without help.

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    by cfk on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 07:08:24 PM PDT

    •  The Mythic Past (7+ / 0-)

      The story's background is explained, but only in bits and snatches which kind of have to be pieced together and are described in a legendary manner, even by people who experienced the events.  For example, the homeworld of humanity is never called "Earth"; when it is referred to at all, it is called "Old Urath".

      What threw me the first time I read it is that much of the book is a flashback from the first chapter.  I didn't get that at first and found it confusing.

      "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

      by quarkstomper on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 07:32:42 PM PDT

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      •  L/L plot structure (5+ / 0-)

        's true, this book is layered w/ multiple flash-back/forwards, it took me several reads to put the pieces together. but w/ each pass-through, i was ever more impressed w/ Zelazny's skill as a novelist.

        but it's much more than a tour-de-force of structure - the structure serves to increase the story's tension, by demanding ever-increasing attention from the reader.

        •  The Circle of Life (4+ / 0-)
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          In prepping for this diary, I read what some other people have written about this book.  One source observed that since the flashback sequence feeds back into the first chapter, the bulk of the book form a kind of cycle, reflecting the Eastern philosophy of Life as a Great Wheel.

          "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

          by quarkstomper on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 06:08:15 AM PDT

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  •  ONE OF MY FAVORITES!!!! (5+ / 0-)

    Fantastic freakin' book.

    Tipped and Rec'd Gladly!!!!!

  •  Thank you for reminding me of one of my (3+ / 0-)
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    favorite writers  when I  was in high school.  Unfortunately, it looks like nearly none of his books are on the kindle.  I put them on my wish list so I can go back and check on them from time to time to see if they get put up in electronic format.  I would love to see Zelazny reach a new audience.

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    by Sychotic1 on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 07:43:27 PM PDT

  •  Clarke's Third Law (8+ / 0-)
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

    — Arthur C. Clarke

    I love the idea at the heart of the book; the blurring of science, magic and spirituality to a bystander who doesn't understand the context of what's going on. This is also a well-used trope in fantasy, science fiction, etc.
    • "Babylon 5" reveals the Vorlons to be energy beings who've manipulated the other younger species in the galaxy to see them as religious deities when they're outside of their encounter suits. The end of "Babylon 5" indicates humanity will one day evolve into beings similar to the Vorlons.
    • Marvel Comics takes a similar advanced technology position with their "God" characters like Thor, Odin and Hercules. Marvel's well known scientist characters, like Tony Stark, Reed Richards and Hank Pym, do not believe Thor is really a God, just an alien using technology beyond our current comprehension.
    • The "Ancients" on "Stargate SG-1" are basically humans that have evolved to a higher plane of existence, and most of the myths of Earth were either created by ancient humans trying to explain the alien things they had seen or by aliens trying to manipulate humanity. All of the "Stargate" series are essentially about humanity little by little understanding more & more about the Ancient's technology & expanding outward into the universe.
    • John Carpenter's 'Prince of Darkness' plays with the idea that Jesus was actually an alien sent to help us fight the Anti-Christ, who is actually the son of an "Anti-God" alien trying to open a gateway into this universe for his father.

    •  Kirby Tales (5+ / 0-)
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      Jack Kirby's comic book THE DEMON originally had a similar theme.  Although as written, it seemed to be about magic, in the artwork all the sorcerors and demons weilded stuff that looked like alien technology.  Of course, that might just be because that's how Jack Kirby drew things; but I suspect that in Jack's original vision, it was all alien technology that the people of Authurian times interpreted as magic.

      There' a Jack Kirby story in connection with Lord of Light that I'll be telling later on.  Remind me if I don't.

      "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

      by quarkstomper on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 07:54:53 PM PDT

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  •  I liked Lord of Light (4+ / 0-)
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    a lot  and recently re-read it.

  •  Brings back old memories. (4+ / 0-)
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    I always thought that the powers being used by the main characters were originally created by technology, but the book is very vague about the past.

    The dilemma of how technology is used is a real one.  Will the benefits of technology be used to support a few at the top, or will the benefits be available to everyone?  So far it mostly has been helpful for the many, at least in some of the time in democratic societies.  But civilization is still very young.  If I could have one wish, it would be to see how it all turns out a thousand or ten thousand years in the future.

    "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell

    by Thutmose V on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 07:59:10 PM PDT

  •  One of my favorites... (5+ / 0-)

    Now I really have to read it again!!
    Thanks for posting.

    "Y'know what intelligent people call someone who runs around saying NO to everything all the time? A three-year-old who needs a nap." BiPM

    by stevenwag on Sun Oct 16, 2011 at 08:07:53 PM PDT

  •  Thank you! (4+ / 0-)

    My favorite book by my favorite author.  I can't tell you how many times I've read it, but it's definitely a double digit number.  I'm still terribly sad that he was taken from a world that desperately needs his writing at a far too young age.

  •  The Exhausted Hero (4+ / 0-)
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    Zelazny wrote about heroes in a period when anti-heroes were popular. His characters had doubts, but they were about the world at large rather than about themselves. They were recognizably human, though.

    Lord of Light was the culmination of Zelazny's early career, when he was a Rock Star in SF Fandom -- each work seemed more ambitious and successful than the last.

    There WAS a fad among the prodigious numbers of worldwide youth concerning the Vedas, Upanishads, Hinduism, as well as the many forms of Buddhism.
    Herman Hesse's Siddhartha was a major hit, and its simplicity was a major factor in its popularity.

    Zelazny's crew from Urath cynically adapted "the most stable society in history" for their own purposes, which allowed the author to literally play with the Pantheon of South Asia -- scholarship be damned, or at least used for effect.
    Anti-Colonialism is a serious component of Lord of Light -- the humorless Devil is a stubborn Christian crewman who strongly disapproves of his shipmates' divine commedia, but his answer is an army of zombies.
    I'm afraid the allure of Heavenly Power seduced the reading public as much as the fictional spacefarers, though, and they tended to ignore the ironies that disturbed Sam throughout the book.

    Literature and writing fit poorly in the insanity-making hype of Pop, and I think it was good that Zelazny "backed down" a bit after this book.

    It's ... ridiculous to expect the market to police itself as it would be to expect a baserunner to walk off the field if no one is calling outs.

    by MT Spaces on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 01:44:58 AM PDT

    •  Black Nirriti (3+ / 0-)
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      Black Nirriti is an interesting character, and I'll be talking more about him in later chapters.  For most of the novel, he appears only on the fringes like a boogeyman in the background.  But when we actually meet him, he is not entirely unsympathetic.  

      He's still a fanatic, though, and his zombie schtickis big-time creepy.

      "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

      by quarkstomper on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 06:19:04 AM PDT

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      •  Nirriti fell into "the ends justify the means" (1+ / 0-)
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        He wanted to fight against the pseudo-Gods, but unlike Kalkin, he lacked personal power.

        And perhaps he felt it was wrong to assemble armies of living people to die fighting, even if it was for their own freedom - a point at which Sam did not stick. Hence, zombies.

        I have to wonder what Zelany's love life was like at that point in time. The character of Kali was just a little too close to ultimate evil.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 07:58:39 AM PDT

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        •  I Wonder... (1+ / 0-)
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          I've always wondered if Nirriti's power actually was to animate the dead, and this blasphemous ability comined with his dogmatic theology caused him to become unhinged.  But that's just speculation.  The novel leaves a lot of things vague.

          You raise a good question about Kali.  The women in Zelazny's books, at least the ones I've read, tend to be support characters at best.  The most sympathetic female character in Lord of Light is Ratri, the goddess of the Night, who also runs the Khaipur establishment which Yama calls "the Fornicatorium".

          I would not call Zelazny a mysogynist by any means, but he's not exactly a writer who deals with feminist themes.

          (He does, however, touch on transexuality in a couple places; we'll get to one of those in the next chapter).

          "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

          by quarkstomper on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 08:17:32 AM PDT

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          •  Zelazny, like many SF writers (1+ / 0-)
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            casts himself (in various forms) as the protagonist.

            Damn near every one of his heroes is male, smokes, has a wry sense of humor, and is agnostic about the local deities.

            In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

            by blue aardvark on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 08:32:36 AM PDT

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            •  True (1+ / 0-)
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              It might be interesting to compare Sam/Corwin/Conrad from Zelazny's novels to the Eternal Champion of Michael Moorcock's.  But since I've read little Moorcock, someone else will have to make that comparison.

              "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

              by quarkstomper on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 08:38:49 AM PDT

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  •  thanks quarkstomper (4+ / 0-)
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    L/L is one of my favorite sf books, i read it in the early '70s. i've think of this novel as an exemplar of 'underground' sf, authors such as Philip Jose' Farmer & Harlan Ellison (and of course, the 'Dangerous Visions' collections that H. E. put together).

    thanks for reminding me of the 'many kilowatts of prayer' trope, reading that phrase always gives me a smile. every now & then, i'm reminded of the pray-o-mat machines when i'm punching my PIN into an ATM. ntm the obvious connection to the prayer-booths in Lucas' "THX-1138" movie.

    L/L introduced me to Eastern religious thought, and while the novel extrapolates from Hindu philosophy, it's pert' clear that Zelazny had a good working knowledge of the Bhagavad-Gita (viz. the "few sing prayers to breath" section). as best i can tell, Zelazny's use of Hindu & Christian religious thought in this novel never denigrated the original source material, rather, he decried the repression that accompanied an enforced religion.

    there's a great passage (forgive my hazy memory) where captain Jan tells Sam that he's still a good Christian, when he runs out of Hindu swear-words!

    reading L/L greatly expanded my world-view, next thing i knew, i was reading LotR, Lao-Tzu & Carlos Castaneda.

    's weird though, i never folllowed up on Zelazny's other books. i did read "The Doors of his Face, the Lamps of his Mouth" in a Nebula collection, & still love that story.

    usually when i find an author that rings my bell, i'm all over reading everything he wrote. for some reason, i never followed up w/ Zelazny. are his Amber or Berserker books worth a read? do they have the same kind of imaginative drive? if so, i'd love to read them.

    •  Amber is my favorite series (3+ / 0-)
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      It is one of the best fantasy series, and owes nothing to LOTR.

      "...You know why their symbol is the letter 'D'? Because it's a grade that means 'good enough, but just barely.' You know why the Republican symbol is 'R'? Because it's the noise a pirate makes when he robs you and feeds you to a shark." Bill Maher

      by wrights on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 03:44:05 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly (2+ / 0-)
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        It's hard to imagine a more disparate set of fantasy worldviews than Tolkein's re-worked Christianity (good Creator, bad Rebel, everyone chooses sides) and Zelany's billions of parallel worlds with order and chaos at the poles.

        In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

        by blue aardvark on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 08:00:56 AM PDT

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    •  The Berserker series (5+ / 0-)

      ..was by Fred Saberhagen.

      We are not given mercy because we deserve it, but because we need it.

      by Ahianne on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 07:36:22 AM PDT

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    •  I Liked Amber (0+ / 0-)

      I liked his Amber books.  His deptiction of alternate realities as "shadows" of a sort of Platonic Ideal world is interesting and the series is rich in ideas.  The main character Corwin develops from a frankly self-centered royal brat out for revenge to a more responsible figure with a deeper understanding of his actions and of the world around him.  There are occasionally places where I suspect Zelazny was making things up as he went along and where the plot threads don't quite match up exactly; but the ride is so much fun I can forgive the holes.

      I've only read about half of the second Amber series about Corwin's son, Merlin, and I didn't care for it quite as much.  Of course, if I had stuck with it to the end, I might have a better opinion of it.

      My Dad used to have This Immortal, (also known as "...Call Me Conrad" ), Zelazny's first novel, but I somehow never read it.  

      I have read Roadmarks, one of his later books which takes on a highway through time and has an extremely disjointed narrative structure.  It's tricky to follow and comes to a conclusion too abruptly, but nevertheless it has some delightful bits in it.  (Like the retired android assassin, or the Marquis de Sade and the T-Rex, or Adolf Hitler driving a little black VW up and down the highway of time trying to find an alternate world in which he won...)

      I can also recommend his short story, "The Unicorn Variation", about a chess game with some unusual stakes.

      "All the World's a Stage and Everyone's a Critic." -- Mervyn Alquist

      by quarkstomper on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 08:35:08 AM PDT

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    •  Berserker... wasn't that Fred Saberhagen? (0+ / 0-)
  •  An most excellent novel (2+ / 0-)
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    I liked the way that the former ship's chaplain was portrayed - first as an bad guy, lord of zombies, but later as a man who had railed against the assumption of the roles of deities (and the subjugation of the ordinary people).

    In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; but in practice, there always is a difference. - Yogi Berra

    by blue aardvark on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 07:51:16 AM PDT

  •  Zelazny is one of my favorite authors (0+ / 0-)

    While I do like LoL, I feel that Isle of the Dead is a better book.

    Both deal with a technology/religion dichotomy and the resultant stories raise serious questions of ethics. What would you do if you had the power of the "gods"?

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    by Unit Zero on Mon Oct 17, 2011 at 09:37:06 AM PDT

  •  My oldest and dearest (1+ / 0-)
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    absolutely loves Lord of Light.  

    I find the plot so convoluted that I have never (and because of my friend, I have tried multiple times) got past the third page.

    Strength and dignity are her clothing, she rejoices at the days to come; She opens her mouth with wisdom, and the law of kindness is on her tongue.

    by loggersbrat on Tue Oct 18, 2011 at 08:32:09 PM PDT

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