Framing Torture - can we just be clear about this?

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Sunday October 28, 2007 · 6:25 PM PDT

2007/10/28 · 18:25

Napoleon knew that torture was ineffective. The US military has long known that torture was ineffective. Heck, even the Nazis knew that torture was ineffective: they treated prisoners who actually had valuable information very differently than those they simply wanted to intimidate or terrorize.

But somehow, even when progressives know this, they seem to have a hard time succinctly articulating it. Why? It's not that hard.

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