Put up or shut up!

tnd

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Sunday November 07, 2004 · 10:00 PM PST

2004/11/07 · 22:00

I have read this site avidly for more than a year but have found mania about the election over the past several days to be unbearable. For many reasons . .

Whatever anger I feel about the elections cannot overcome my need for rational discourse.

With a skeptical eye turned towards the elections . . .in the absence of hard data on fraud, certain posters (yes, you!)are wasting their energies on a dead-end approach to this electoral end-game.

Yes, let us support an audit and yes, let us push to have all votes counted, this is sensible.

On the other hand, PISS OFF if you cannot handle the need of some to have FACTS to support wild allegations of fraud.

Let us NOT turn ourselve into some twisted version of the opposition.

Therefore, in short, stop flaming other liberals. Stop attacking those who want to know more, who test your case, who seem cynical . . Rather, ask yourself, what additional proof can I provide to make the case and help those who question me, make the case to others not of this community in a CREDIBLE way.

Cheers. Or not as the case may be.

The Collapse?! Not.

tnd

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Tuesday November 02, 2004 · 10:05 PM PST

2004/11/02 · 22:05

I despair just a bit. I certainly share the glum views of many posters on Dailykos - although I hold out for a victory in the end.

That being said, we are on the receiving end of a 30-year plus campaign to seize control of the levers of our societal debate - one which has suceeded.

We cannot expect to win so easily and we MUST dig in even further and fight - meaning we must build a successful machine to counter-punch and to fight for free expression. Big gains have been made during this election-cycle - win or no.

As a worthy of ours once said: The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Trite on my part . . . probably . . .

I think the message is . . . sleep it off and get up to fight the next day or none of us are worth our salt.

Cheers!

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