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The past few days have not been good ones for those in the GOP and the conservative movement promoting conspiracy theories concerning the Benghazi terrorist attack.  With the news that Susan Rice did not edit the comments she gave five days after the attack, but instead had them edited and given to her by intelligence officials, the entire rationale behind John McCain and Lindsey Graham's hysterical attacks on her has been knocked out from beneath them. (McCain seems to realize that, given he's already backpeddling on his stance against Rice and is reduced to complaining about why he didn't get this information sooner.) Coupled with similar information from David Patreaus and a harsh pushback from Democrats accusing them of rascism and it's no wonder conservatives are currently floundering on the Benghazi issue.  (If you want a good example, watch Rep. Michael Burgess of Texas, one of the 97 House Republicans who signed a letter against Rice's potential nomination as SOS, get raked over the coals by Soledad O'Brien on CNN over his and his fellow GOPers opposing Rice while giving Condoleezza Rice a pass.)

However, as I previously wrote about, the GOP is not about to give up on what they in their heart of hearts believe is the scandal that will finally bring down the Evil Kenyan Muslim Socialist Anti-Christ. So if the intelligence community is now saying Rice is clear, there is only one logical option in their mind: The spooks are lying to us, all the way to the top.

The Republicans' new focus of attack in the faux "Benghazi-gate scandal is Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper, claiming that he lied about the source of changes to talking points on the Benghazi attack given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice.
McCain got the ball rolling during his supposed backtrack on Rice, wondering why Clapper and other DNI officials didn't provide this information during closed door hearings. (Gee, you mean the one you blew off and then got pissy about when questioned later, Senator?) And now that all their earlier attacks on Rice have collapsed, the Benghazi conspiracy nuts, which seemingly consists of all of Fox News these days, are training their guns on Clapper (who, by the way, is a George W. Bush appointee).  Some examples:
- BILL O'REILLY: Now it's James Clapper, President Obama's national security guy who is saying, "Oh, it's me. I sent Rice out there and I took out all the al Qaeda stuff." I'm not buying it. None of this adds up. ...All right so there's a lot of lying going on here.

- CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: I'm not buying it because the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said that a week ago in classified testimony that same Clapper said that they had no idea who changed the talking points and now a week later he seems to say he did? That's kind of strange. I mean I've seen amnesia in my day in my clinical days and that one is pretty quick, one week.

- TUCKER CARLSON: I hate to think the director of National Intelligence lied, is a liar. But I'm not sure I see an alternative explanation. Apparently, he's contradicting what he testified to just last week. Is there annother explanation for this?

- FOX NEWS' STEVE DOOCY: The did say it is out of the [DNI] office. It's not him per se, so we're supposed to believe that a Clapper aide changed what Patreaus had said? That's very, very curious.

 - REP. TREY GOWDY (R-SC): This is the head of our national intelligence and he changed his mind within the course of 24 hours. So how are you possibly going to have any confidence in what he says?

And then here's Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA), who stopped short of calling Clapper a liar, but implicated to Fox News' Stuart Varney that he might be part of the conspiracy:
GINGREY: Now have you got someone who can basically trump the CIA, especially if the president says to him - I am not suggesting that he did, but he could have - look, James, we need to kind of clean this up a little bit...We are doing really well. We're right about time for the election and we are doing very well on national security and this could blow our cover.
Feel free, if you can stomach it, to watch a greatest hits of the attacks on Clapper here. It may give you flashbacks to the whackjobs swarming around the Vince Foster suicide during the Clinton years and their theories about how Foster was whacked by the Clintons or some damn thing. (And Trey Gowdy, I swear to God, sounds like if Gomer Pyle somehow got elected to Congress. Perhaps I don't have to retire the "Gomer Kyl" nickname with John Kyl retiring. I just have to refashion it to "Gomer Gowdy" or something similar.)

At this rate, how much longer until one of these clowns says Clapper was ordered by Obama himself to use poor Susan Rice as a dupe to cover up his crimes? (Oops, I probably shouldn't give them any ideas.) Maybe this is the "big revelation" on Benghazi I heard Sean Hannity babbling about on his radio show a couple days ago (which I've been listening to off and on since Election Day to hear him whine and crab like all the others).

No, no matter how much you debunk their theories, the Benghazi nuts will not let go. Any proof of the ridiculousness of their theories only makes them more sure of their paranoid delusions. And in their desperation to pin something, anything on Obama, they will only get crazier and crazier.

Invest in popcorn futures, because this show is only going to get wilder.

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  •  There is no (20+ / 0-)

    phonier outrage than GOP outrage, and when it comes to Benghazi, it's the phoniest ever.

    There is no such thing as an off year election. Every election effects each other. We need to work as hard in 2014 as we did in 2012.

    by pollbuster on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:18:13 PM PST

    •  Rather than do real work they "Phone it is" (1+ / 0-)
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      That's what it means to be a Republican in Congress these days. They are Phony leaders of America.

      The Democrats create jobs. The Republicans create recessions.

      by Tuba Les on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:17:36 PM PST

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    •  Think of it as channeling, and as a positive ... (2+ / 0-)
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      OleHippieChick, majcmb1

      I just saw this situation in a new light. It is sort of like Birtherism. It's not phony outrage so much as redirected outrage. Their state of outrage is over having lost the election, and is "all because of this terrible, awful negro" in the White House. But they can't really admit that, even to themselves, so they channel that energy into other outlets. Orly is stuck in Birther mode, others have moved on. It gives them something to anchor their hopes. They think they've got the goods on him, if only they could figure out exactly what those goods are.

      This is a positive in the sense that it probably is keeping some of the more unhinged of the disappointed cult members from taking violent action. Just like the Birthers, as long as they have what is in their minds a reasonable hope that they can get rid of Obama, it may keep them within the bounds of appropriate behavior. Meanwhile, again like Birtherism, their beliefs and theories on "Benghazigate" are off-the-wall enough to make non-indoctrinated Americans think of them as loons. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert may help nudge that perception along as well.

      Free: The Authoritarians - all about those who follow strong leaders.

      by kbman on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 11:58:09 PM PST

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  •  Their theories would be better suited (10+ / 0-)

    for the covers of lurid tabloids, prominently displayed alongside "real" photos of a Bigfoot shopping at a health food store.

    They need something to attack on. Benghazi will only serve until something better comes along.
     

    "The human eye is a wonderful device. With a little effort, it can fail to see even the most glaring injustice." Richard K. Morgan

    by sceptical observer on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 08:34:34 PM PST

  •  More and more, John McCain resembles Gollum (13+ / 0-)

    chasing his "precious." He's been my representative or senator for nearly 30 years, and I remember a guy whose views I often disagreed with, but he was sane, approachable, and often surprised you by voting against his party. That all seemed to change when Karl Rove handed him his ass in the SC primary, and the next thing we knew he was embracing Falwell and others he previously condemned as agents of intolerance. And he keeps digging deeper.

    We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us.

    stay together / learn the flowers / go light - Gary Snyder

    by Mother Mags on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:26:04 PM PST

  •  CIA Lying To US (5+ / 0-)

    Gee what an outrage, the CIA lying!  

    Isn't lying a part of the CIA job description?

    Poor man wants to be rich. Rich man wants to king. And the king ain't satisifed until he rules everything. B.Springsteen

    by howd on Thu Nov 22, 2012 at 09:51:50 PM PST

    •  Not revealing sensitive sources and methods is (4+ / 0-)
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      certainly part of the job description. The agencies would have been irresponsible to come out immediately in public statements of what they knew. Knowing precisely what often leads to how and that is a dangerous place to go, quite literally for those involved in the how.

      The fact that so many in Congress don't seem to get that or are simply disregarding it is the amazing thing. The fact that the "military" man, McCain is prying about in that area like this is a sign he is irresponsible. Then Congress is about as leaky as a sieve. Look at the blowing of covers by Congressional release of documents early in this charade.

      Unfortunately it is difficult to just revoke clearances for Congress and with so many egos fueled by what is becoming literally anti-American and borderline treasonous hatred of the current administration on the TP/GOP side blowing covers is probably going to be common. Among most of this gang Goldwater's "extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" might be better expressed as "sedition in the defense of the party is no vice."

      The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

      by pelagicray on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 05:26:21 AM PST

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  •  It Was Colonel Mustard W/ A Candlestick..... (0+ / 0-)

    He did it.  Blame him.  He was the one Barack Obama instructed to change the talking points.

    No, wait a moment.  It was really Bullwinkle.  Yeah....that's it.  Barack Obama told Jessica Rabbit to do it, then Bullwinkle told Susan Rice what to say on all the talk shows.

    Back up.  It was really the Roadrunner.  He's so fleet of foot he could fool even that old fradulent fool.....John McCain.

  •  Did you know Stevens was selling arms to Muslim (6+ / 0-)

    Brotherhood?  Honestly.  A friend of my husband's (whom I've volleyed back and forth with over the years with political emails) demanded to know what I thought of Benghazi.  I thought he was going to bitch about Rice so I said it was a tragedy and sent him some reliable links.  Nope, he thinks Stevens was selling the M.B. illegal weapons and those weapons were used to kill him.  That's the reason we let them die, (or to use his words, "sacrificed" them) instead of riding in for the rescue.  I swear I'm not making this up.  He sent me the email yesterday and I did a short diary about it earlier.  

    I bought a hoodie to show solidarity with Trayvon Martin, but nobody notices me.

    by shades at midnite on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 12:17:21 AM PST

  •  If anyone is looking for the full story (3+ / 0-)

    It can be found in a recent article by Horace G Campbell in Eurasia Review.

    The links have been connected and there are many including the relieving Carter Ham of his position as the head of AFRICOM, the resignation of General Petraeus from the CIA and the assignment of Rear Admiral Charles M. Gouette as the commander of the USS John C. Stennis strike group.

    These three changes at the top of the US military establishment are all related to the failed NATO intervention in North Africa and the subsequent war and killings that have been unleashed by militias in Libya, especially in Benghazi.

    These changes exposed the new autonomy and war fighting capabilities that were being experimented where the CIA and the leaders of the military command structures such as AFRICOM and Central Command (CENTCOM) made policy independent of the executive branch and civilian leadership.

    This experiment shattered with devastating consequences for the entire military apparatus ensnaring generals, financial speculators, media specialists on the military and politicians.

    This is a long article, nearly 7 printed pages. The details are listed and explained very well. I am certain there will be surprises for readers as there were for me.

    The article explains how Ambassador Stevens was caught in a battle between militias and the CIA, that "the CIA was running a base in Benghazi for recruitment of 'extremists' to fight in Syria".

    In one section with the heading "General Petraeus and the Disrespect for Barrack Obama the author writes:

    ...  It is important for readers to grasp the deep arrogance of Petraeus in relation to Obama. Much of this has come out in the formulation that Petraeus attempted to ’box in’ the president over the deployment of troops to Afghanistan.
    There are many startling revelations in this piece. In closing the author writes:
    Petraeus and his supporters had been confident that the circle of war and destruction would continue for generations. With the support of the media Petraeus had been confident that the full details of the destruction in Libya and alliance with the militias could be kept out of the public domain. ...

    Orwell - "Political language ... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable"

    by truong son traveler on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 12:31:15 AM PST

  •  I hate this (1+ / 0-)
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    yet Americans need to know how low these GOPers will sink. I need to know. When they go after Obama with their impeachment crap i don't want to be playing catch up.
    I need to see it coming.

    So thanks for wading threough all the nauseating shit and putting it all togeather, with links, so we don't have to.

    •  It's coming................... (0+ / 0-)

      the Teahadists have Orangeman's short and curlys in their grip and they will pull until he allows impeachment hearings to begin. It might not be this month, this winter or in the spring under a new Congress AND it might not be over Bengahzigate; but it will happen within the next 12-15 months.

      There will be hearings, all the Rethugs in the house will vote to impeach and it will be sent the Senate where the "trial" will clear the POTUS. It is all theatre. It is all Kabuki.

      Overall it will make the GOP look like the idiots they are but they can't help it or control it. The RW loon base is "wagging the dog" and will continue to until they are silenced, voted out or the GOP splinters.

      Plan on it happening but don’t sweat it. While I know it will raise my already elevated blood pressure at times; I am working on my anger/stress reduction and relaxation exercises.  In the final analysis it will be a boost for out side.
       

      The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation--HDT

      by cazcee on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 07:29:05 AM PST

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  •  RWers cant even locate Benghazi on a Map. And you (2+ / 0-)
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    have David Gregory who said last Sunday that Libya was in the middle east. I was like 'Dude, just because its an arab amd muslim country, it doesnt mean it has to be in the Middle East'.

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 02:43:23 AM PST

  •  Obviously Charles Krauthammer is confusing Clapper (2+ / 0-)
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    majcmb1, semiot

    with Petreaus. Clapper wasnt on the Hill last week and just like Hilary Clinton he has yet to testify because he has a busy job to take care.

    "Rick Perry talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans." --- James Carville

    by LaurenMonica on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 02:47:10 AM PST

  •  yawn...haven't watched tv since nov. 6... (2+ / 0-)
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    OleHippieChick, tampaedski

    scoreboard

    I've already forgotten who the Republican candidate was in 2012

    by memofromturner on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 03:26:20 AM PST

  •  If I were a serious Republican, I would be (1+ / 0-)

    VERY PISSED OFF about all this fake Benghazi crap, especially when you consider that these same conspiracy mongers blew the last week of the election on this crap instead of focusing on Obama and the economy, which was the sane strategy.  

    It's like they really just can't help themselves.

    Again, if I were a Republican, and I was hurting over having just lost an election, and if I was sane, as most Republican rank and file are, then I would be so disappointed in this shit.

  •  I think I will go with pork skins this time round (0+ / 0-)

    instead of popcorn, in honor of these great redneck men.
    Plus, pork belly futures are already a huge commodity.

    Buy Aldus Shrugged : The Antidote to Ayn Rand, and tear Ayn and the GOP new orifices. Plus, I get a small royalty, and Jeff Bezos and his employees get the rest. Not a bad deal, as he is not that much of a dick, relatively speaking. @floydbluealdus1

    by Floyd Blue on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 04:43:32 AM PST

    •  Hell, I learned that when I was like 10, (0+ / 0-)

      at that Barbara Streisand movie with my mom and my sister!

      Buy Aldus Shrugged : The Antidote to Ayn Rand, and tear Ayn and the GOP new orifices. Plus, I get a small royalty, and Jeff Bezos and his employees get the rest. Not a bad deal, as he is not that much of a dick, relatively speaking. @floydbluealdus1

      by Floyd Blue on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 04:44:05 AM PST

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  •  It's odd (2+ / 0-)
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    they switched from Obama not sending extra security to the stuff about who was lying and who knew what when. When they were complaining about security they at least sounded plausible. Maybe they dropped that when Dems pointed out that they had voted to cut security for embassies. But I didn't think that would stop them.

  •  Looks like Daddy Obama (0+ / 0-)

    is gonna have to get a switch out and discipline these hooligans!

    being mindful and keepin' it real

    by Raggedy Ann on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 05:53:57 AM PST

  •  Since Benghazi was "at it's heart a CIA operation" (0+ / 0-)

    A mission where "the State Department presence in Benghazi "provided diplomatic cover" for the previously hidden CIA mission"...

    The GOPers continued public demands that the Administration publicly give details of a covert mission out over national/ world cable news networks seems to me to be a wee bit...um...treasonous.  

    I don't know why the Administration isn't taking Graham, McCain, and the GOPer Spite Brigade behind closed doors & thoroughly reaming them for deliberately putting national security--a covert operation that may still be ongoing in some phases; and covert operatives at risk--in order to play political games.  

    According to the linked article, Stevens was well aware of the covert nature of the Benghazi mission. Two of the former Navy Seals killed in Bengazhi  were CIA Agents That is a fact that the CIA originally asked news agencies not to broadcast, and no doubt the Administration did not want to have Ms. Rice broadcast it on national television, as long as the fact that the Benghazi mission was a covert operation could be kept quiet.  

    But, the GOP--as usual putting Party before country--wouldn't conduct their inquiries of the Administration in private, in the interests of national security and covert operatives lives--these attention whores conducted their inquiries in front of world news cameras.

    Did/do the GOPers really expect that the Administration spokesperson should go on national TV following the disruption of a covert mission and give all the details to the world public--and the enemy--while covert agents/ missions may well still be at risk??  

    They kept asking about why there weren't more troops protecting the Ambassador.  Duh...Do full platoons of US marines usually accompany CIA operatives on covert missions, Senator McCain??  Maybe if you were more concerned about the good of the country instead of your spiteful vendetta against a political opponent, you'd admit that you are wrong.

  •  If you think the comments of prominent ... (1+ / 0-)
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    Catte Nappe

    Repubs are bad, you should see some of the stuff that's floating around in Glenn Beck's fan base.  A truly whacked-out righty that I know has been insisting for weeks that the Ambassador was in Benghazi trying to recover shoulder-fired missiles that we had given the Libyan rebels at Barack Obama's personal insistence.

    Never mind the fact that they had absolutely no need for shoulder-fired missles once NATO started flying over Libya and grounded Gaddhafi's entire air force.  And never mind the fact that they got most of their armaments, other than small arms, from Gaddhafi's weapons storage facilities one his government started falling apart.  They don't care about facts.  They just care about finding some excuse -- ANY excuse, no matter how implausible -- to blame the entire thing on Barack Obama.

    Bin Laden is dead. GM and Chrysler are alive.

    by leevank on Fri Nov 23, 2012 at 07:38:20 AM PST

  •  Look for the long game (1+ / 0-)
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    Catte Nappe

    The Rs can read the polling that shows BHO as being the only D for ages to overshadow the Rs on national security issues. The exit polling and virtually all the public polling makes that clear. The idea on Benghazi is not to actually find anything that might really show a coverup or a scandal but rather to damage Obama's national security standing. The Rs have to do this to get back into power and this will be only the first of many such efforts. They aren't aiming to score a knockout-although they hope for one- but rather to simply score weakening body blows.

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