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Donald Trump plays word games. We know this.
Michael Cohen once said “He speaks in code.”
He doesn’t say exactly what he means, he doesn’t tell you exactly what he wants. He makes a suggestion — he uses a phrase — and then he lets you figure it out.
How do you think people are interpreting his latest statements about a “bloodbath” if he loses the 2024 election?
So was he really warning that building electric cars is going to destroy the auto industry — or was it something else entirely?
Does anyone seriously think Trump didn’t mean exactly what it sounded like he meant?
He’s already tried to over throw the nation. He already sent a mob to disrupt Congress and threaten the life of his own Vice President.
His own followers — still, three years later — don’t believe that he honestly lost the election in 2020.
It’s sad, it’s ridiculous, it’s completely insane nonsense.
But they’re committed to it. They truly believe that — somehow — every court that looked at the evidence is rigged, biased and/or “bought off.” Trump’s own White House counsel, Trump’s own FBI, DOJ, Homeland Security and his own campaign who hired two different companies to find evidence of “election fraud” and came up empty -— are all “in on the scam.”
It’s a giant magical conspiracy that was accomplished without leaving any reasonable traces.
They still think that the “ballots under the tables’ theory is legitimate even though Rudy Giuliani lost a $148 Million defamation case on that issue.
They still think that Dominion Voting Systems magically “flipped votes” even though there have been repeated recounts and Fox News lost a $787.5 Million defamation judgment over that issue.
They still think that “2000 Mules” is somehow valuable when they got the accuracy of phones GPS completely wrong — claiming it was accurate to 16 inches, when it's really only accurate to 16 feet.
They still think there were fake ballots generated by China with bamboo in the paper. [Even though Cyberninjas didn’t find any bamboo ballots.]
They still think that some votes were changed by satellites from Italy.
I’ll be honest, If I believed all that was possible, if I believed that system was that corrupt I’d be pretty pissed off too. I don’t know what I’d be willing to do to set things right.
We all know what they did.
The question is — what will they be willing to do now? What will they do next if it all happens again?
We know that the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers leadership has been tried, convicted and sentenced for Seditious Conspiracy.
How exactly though — would the Boogaloo Bois react?
Boogaloos were involved in many of the violence we saw during the BLM riots. They were responsible for the first firebombing and firing AK-47 rounds into the Minneapolis police station after the death of George Floyd.
According to court documents, Ivan Hunter, 24, admitted to traveling from San Antonio, Texas to Minneapolis with the intent to participate in a riot. Hunter is a self-described member of the Boogaloo Bois, a loosely connected group of individuals who espouse violent anti-government sentiments. The term “Boogaloo” itself references an impending second civil war in the United States and is associated with violent uprisings against the government.
On the night of May 28, 2020, Hunter was captured on video discharging 13 rounds from an AK-47 style semiautomatic rifle into the Minneapolis Police Department’s Third Precinct building. At the time of the shooting there were other individuals believed to be looters still inside the building. Law enforcement recovered from the scene discharged rifle casings consistent with an AK-47 style firearm.
According to court documents, upon returning to Texas, Hunter made various statements on social media describing the violence in which he engaged in Minneapolis. On June 3, 2020, officers with the Austin Police Department conducted a traffic stop on a pick-up truck for numerous traffic violations. Hunter was one of three occupants in the vehicle. Hunter, the front seat passenger, had six loaded magazines for an AK-47 style assault rifle affixed to a tactical vest he was wearing. Officers found three semi-automatic rifles on the rear seat of the vehicle, one loaded pistol in plain view next to the driver’s seat, and another loaded pistol in the center console. Several days after the traffic stop, federal agents became aware of Hunter’s online affiliation with Boogaloo Bois member Steven Carrillo, who has been charged in the Northern District of California with the May 29, 2020, murder of a Federal Protective Service Officer in Oakland, California.
Hunter was also an associate of Steven Carillo who murdered a federal guard in a Drive-by shooting in Oakland.
Later, he privately messaged Steven Carrillo, another alleged “Boogaloo Boi” in California, urging him to “go for police buildings”, according to the federal criminal complaint.
“I did better, lol,” Carrillo allegedly replied.
Hours before Carrillo sent that message, according to the complaint, federal prosecutors say Carrillo had driven to Oakland with an accomplice, and, as protesters were demonstrating blocks away, shot two officers guarding a federal courthouse in downtown Oakland, killing one, David Patrick Underwood.
Carrillo was later charged with killing another law enforcement officer, a Santa Cruz sheriff’s deputy, in an ambush attack in June.
Boogaloos were involved in much of the violence that took place during many George Floyd and anti-Covid-19 Protests in 2020 which had been blamed on BLM and Antifa.
Members of a shadowy movement known as the Boogaloo Boys have been implicated in a series of violent protests and the distribution of misinformation regarding the COVID-19 coronavirus and in violent racial protests in a number of cities in the U.S. In addition, the Boogaloo Boys have been specifically mentioned in charging documents against Steven Carrillo filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. Carrillo is charged with killing a member of the Federal Protective Service and wounding another. In addition, he has been charged with killing a sheriff’s deputy in Santa Cruz County, California.
The Boogaloo Boys, of which Carrillo is alleged to be a member, have been deeply involved with disinformation activities following the lockdowns related to COVID-19.
In a
report made public on June 17, 2020, Blackbird.AI traces these activities including the armed mob that protested at the Michigan statehouse on May 1, 2020, and the subsequent flood of disinformation to the Boogaloo Boys.
“In the lead-up to these protests and others like it across many other states around the country, there was significant online inflammation of what was characterized as the government's unusual and overbearing reach into private lives in the form of closing down cities and businesses due to the COVID-19 pandemic,” the report says.
We’ve had people attack the offices of the FBI in Cincinatti.
WILMINGTON, Ohio (AP) — An armed man clad in body armor who tried to breach the FBI’s Cincinnati office on Thursday was shot and killed by police after he fled the scene and engaged in an hourslong standoff in a rural part of the state, the Ohio State Highway Patrol said.
The confrontation came as officials warned of an increase in threats against federal agents in the days following a search of former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.
The man is believed to have been in Washington in the days leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection and may have been present at the Capitol on the day of the attack, according to a law enforcement official briefed on the matter. The official could not discuss details of the investigation publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
We had Cesar Seyoc the “MAGA-Bomber” send pipe bombs to the media and politicians.
Cesar A. Sayoc Jr., the fervent supporter of President Trump who rattled the nation last fall when he sent homemade pipe bombs to former President Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and other prominent Democrats, was sentenced on Monday to 20 years in prison.
Mr. Sayoc pleaded guilty in March to mailing 16 bombs to people he considered to be Mr. Trump’s enemies. The F.B.I. said the devices were packed with powder from fireworks, fertilizer, a pool chemical and glass fragments that would function as shrapnel, but they would not have worked as designed.
We had the attack in Christchurch New Zealand where the mass murderer praised Donald Trump and said he was the “protector of the White Race.”
The manifesto--which has been described as racist “rambling” and deliberate internet “shitposting”--contains a coherent, if deeply disturbing, overarching narrative based on several key concepts and beliefs expressed by far-right white supremacist, anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and “Patriot” anti-government movements.
The narrative can be summarized as follows: “white nations,” according to the manifesto, are experiencing an alarming cultural and racial demographic decline, the latter being fueled by low white birthrates and mass immigration/migration. The declining white population in these countries, coupled with rising numbers of immigrants--especially those from Muslim-majority states--is leading to a gradual non-white “takeover” of these countries. The ultimate outcome of this process is the permanent demographic and cultural demise of its European-heritage majority, which is described as a “white genocide” and “great replacement.” (The manifesto’s title, “The Great Replacement,” is a verbatim reference to a Muslim-centric variant of the white genocide concept that xenophobic figures allege is taking place in France and the rest of Europe.)
The main characters in this story are the attacker, the West’s passive racially-unconscious white majority, Muslims, and actors he directly labels or portrays as “traitors” -- such as elected officials, unnamed non-government organizations, business leaders, and “Antifa/Marxists/Communists.”
We had the attack in Pittsburgh’s Tree Of Life Synagogue as a counterattack to the “Great Replacement” of White people.
The Department of Justice charged Bowers with 63 felony counts associated with that attack on the synagogue on the morning of Saturday, Oct. 27, 2018, including 11 counts of hate crimes resulting in death. Bowers, 51, faces a potential death sentence if found guilty.
Bowers allegedly entered the synagogue wielding a Colt AR-15 rifle and three Glock .357 semi-automatic pistols. Authorities say he used all of them that morning, killing victims whose ages ranged from 54 to 97 and wounding six others in the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S. history. Bowers allegedly yelled the words “all Jews must die” during the attack. He allegedly started the roughly 20-minute rampage around 9:45 that morning, focusing his hatred and violence on people who had gathered peacefully to read from the Torah.
We had a mass shooting in an El Paso Walmart which was directed against Latinos who are “invading the nation.”
A Texas man was sentenced to 90 consecutive life sentences in prison for carrying out a mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3, 2019, killing 23 people and injuring 22 more.
On Feb. 8, Patrick Wood Crusius, 24, pleaded guilty to a 90-count indictment with 45 counts of violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act and 45 counts of using a firearm during and in relation to crimes of violence. The defendant was sentenced to one life sentence for each count in the indictment, including for hate crime acts that resulted in the deaths of Andre Anchondo, Jordan Anchondo, Arturo Benavides, Jorge Calvillo Garcia, Guillermo Garcia, Leonardo Campos, Angelina Englisbee, Maria Flores, Raul Flores, Adolfo Cerros Hernandez, Alexander Hoffmann, David Johnson, Luis Alfonso Juarez, Maria Legarreta Rothe, Maribel Loya Hernandez, Ivan Filiberto Manzano, Gloria Irma Marquez, Elsa Mendoza Marquez, Margie Reckard, Sara Regalado Monreal, Javier Amir Rodriguez, Teresa Sanchez, and Juan Velasquez.
And we had yet another mass murder in Buffalo New York perpetrated against African Americans — again in support of the “Great Replacement Theory.”
Federal prosecutors will seek the death penalty against a white supremacist who killed 10 Black people in a mass shooting at a Buffalo supermarket, they said in a court filing Friday. Payton Gendron, 20, is already serving a sentence of life in prison with no chance of parole after he pleaded guilty to state charges of murder and hate-motivated domestic terrorism in the 2022 attack.
The Justice Department, in the filing, said that "the United States believes the circumstances … are such that, in the event of a conviction, a sentence of death is justified."
And now we have Trump threatening a "Bloodbath" if he doesn’t win in November.
I wonder what he just might mean by that?
I'm sure it’s just a harmless innocent statement. Right?
I just got this warning message:
Hi Vyan. You should omit the misleading preamble from your newer stories. It is not a question of whether we subjectively "like" the titles or content of your stories. The question is whether the titles and content are objectively accurate. When titles and content are inaccurate and amount to misinformation or clickbait, our policy is clear (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/6/23/2177000/-New-policy-to-combat-mis-and-disinformation-in-community-stories). Write accurate content and we won't be compelled to intervene. That's your choice, not ours.
Hmm.
Look, guys — if you want to have a discussion of the policy and how’s it’s applied or how I should post titles in the future — when I’m not suspended — my kosmail is open. I’m open to that discussion and I’d rather have it in private not drag it out in front of everyone.
Actually, all of this should have *started* with that discussion. But it didn’t.
And for the record, I’m not angry or upset about any of this -— anymore — but I do have some concerns and thoughts about how this policy is being applied.