Bailout Battle Intensifies

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Monday September 22, 2008 · 5:18 PM PDT

2008/09/22 · 17:18

The most concise full report, as of 7:30 Eastern is from the N.Y.Times here.

Most of the negotiations are closed to all, and we need to do some surmising of what is occurring. The original three page proposal that would have made Hank Paulson into the "unitary secretary of treasury" was pretty much an opening low ball bid, to arouse the universal angry response that he achieved, and make any future compromise seem reasonable in comparison.

Now the real game is playing out.

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Dodd's proposal to be partners on up side

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Dodd's proposal to be partners on up side

Along with other changes-oversight committee etc-makes this O.K.

13 votes

It's better, but we need much more

40 votes

Free market is free market-no bailout even with Dodd's changes

31 votes

Conversation with one of those who started the Credit Meltdown

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Saturday September 20, 2008 · 4:08 PM PDT

2008/09/20 · 16:08

He's my friend whom I will refer to as Carl. I'm known at my sports club as the Democrat, the Liberal among the majority Republicans in this area. Carl is one of the good guys. In a conversation when I identified him as a supporter of Bush, his response was "I used to be, but no more....."

This morning he asked me what I felt about the proposed 700 Billion dollar taxpayer purchase of unsaleable paper in the hope to prevent a world wide depression. I refused to answer, launching into a rant of all of those, of both parties, who were responsible in what I described as the climax of the refutation of Reagan's" The Government's not the solution, it's the problem."

Perhaps it was my honesty, my lack of blaming it all on one person or one party, that led to his sharing this true story that explains more clearly than anything how this happened.

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Monday September 15, 2008 · 10:28 AM PDT

2008/09/15 · 10:28

Those words, part of a larger, balanced statement, by Barack Obama is about the collapse of Lehman, and the indication that the Federal Reserve, that is the Government, has ran out of tools to contain the run, not on the "bank" but the system of credit that our economy has thrived on for a half century.

"I certainly don’t fault Senator McCain for these problems" he said. Which I take to mean,

so since I am the Democratic Candidate, no one should make this a personal thing, but rather we should discuss the political economic philosophies that the esteemed Senior Senator from Arizona supports in a calm reasoned manner that befits his dignity and the serious of the subject.

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Obama's Reaction to the Wall Street Crisis

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Obama's Reaction to the Wall Street Crisis

Is perfect,just the right tone

23 votes

Too gentle, needs to turn up a notch

17 votes

He's letting McCain off the hook

13 votes

He's missing an opportunity to destroy McCain and his party

23 votes

None of above

7 votes

McCain-Palin-The Chivalry Ticket

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Wednesday September 10, 2008 · 3:37 PM PDT

2008/09/10 · 15:37

The majority of diaries on this site are new angles of how reprehensible McCain and Palin are. This is absolutely irrelevant to this election, since the more details that come out, the more these candidates will be defended by their supporters.

We are ignoring a basic human instinct that has been put in play, one that overrides substantive political issues. In spite of the vast social changes of the last half decade, there is still a repulsion against a man attacking a woman. Whether this attack is justified, whether the woman is culpable, is a secondary issue.

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Monday September 08, 2008 · 10:57 AM PDT

2008/09/08 · 10:57

He didn't let it slip at a Washington cocktail party, he talked about on last night's 60 Minutes. And if the above title is designed to get this diary read, his comments were designed to sell his book, The War Within, which is excerptedin several articles in the Washington Post.

Obama's vote against the surge, and the drastic lessening of violence that occurred after it, has put Obama on the defensive. While Bush always says that he follows the requests of the top commanders on the ground, this book, based on over 150 interviews, including eleven hours with the President, gives the lie to these words. It was Obama's rejection of the surge that was consistent with the strong opinion of the top Generals in the field.

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Saturday September 06, 2008 · 7:24 PM PDT

2008/09/06 · 19:24

A recent article in the New York Times describes multiple sources confirming Joe Lieberman was McCain's first choice for VP, a choice that would have been evidence of his claim to put "Country First" even above his party's interests.

Dailykos is a vehicle for strong opinion. The very structure of recommended diaries, troll ratings and the language of blogs militates against moderation. When we love we love, and when we hate....watch out.

Two of the people who have been most despised by Dailykos over recent years happen to be the person that John McCain selected, Sarah Palin, and the one that he actually wanted, Joe Lieberman. And what is more interesting is that whatever we may feel about the man, Joe Lieberman, except for foreign policy, is about the extreme opposite on domestic and social issues from Sarah Palin.

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If McCain had insisted on Lieberman

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If McCain had insisted on Lieberman

There would have been a revolt of Republicans

54 votes

Joe would have had to convert, but McCain would have been trounced

8 votes

It would have shown courage, but McCain would have been trounced

34 votes

All of the above

89 votes

None of the above

6 votes

Some of the Above

30 votes

Pie

10 votes

Obama on Bill O'Reilly's "The Factor"

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Thursday September 04, 2008 · 7:22 PM PDT

2008/09/04 · 19:22

Respect, or more accurately the lack thereof is what I took away from the first of this several part interview just aired. It's repeated in most areas so you can still watch it.

O'Reilly has an "expert" who often evaluates body language, and he has learned a few tricks from her. There is much that is non-verbal in an interaction, mainly who is in charge. O'Reilly immediately defined his Alpha Dog role by the tone of his voice and his impatience when Obama failed to respond to the exact question, in the appropriate tense, that he posed.

Here's the video of the interviewthat was provided in a comment.

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Interview with O'Reilly

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Interview with O'Reilly

Great idea, can only win votes

46 votes

Audience will be impressed by Obama's intellect

57 votes

O'Reilly will become an Obama Fan

14 votes

Shoud have stayed away

195 votes

Other

28 votes

"Father God" Is a Democrat

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Tuesday August 26, 2008 · 10:24 PM PDT

2008/08/26 · 22:24

I know that "unity" is the theme of Dkos tonight as we bask in the pleasure of the party together for a single purpose, electing Barack Obama. But, somehow I'm not feeling all warm an fuzzy. So, I'll explain why.

"Father God" Is a Democrat-- is the distinct impression I got from Monday night's benediction by the noted evangelical inspirational author Don Miller. After the adjournment, but before any of the ten thousand in the audience could leave, they were told to stand, and listen to this prayer.

Some of you may have missed it, so you did not get the full religious experience that was the added bonus of this otherwise very secular convocation.

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Rev. Miller's Benediction

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Rev. Miller's Benediction

Was inspiring, and good politics

8 votes

It's America Bud, get over it

7 votes

No one paid attention, we have to do it

2 votes

It was harmless, but party should avoid prayer

4 votes

It was offensive, and we should have skipped it

0 votes

We need to take a stand for separation of Ch. & St.

9 votes

New York Times: "The surge, clearly, has worked..."

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Thursday August 21, 2008 · 1:38 PM PDT

2008/08/21 · 13:38

This is the words of Reporter Dexter Filkins from today's article, the paragraph continuing as follows:

The surge, clearly, has worked, at least for now: violence, measured in the number of attacks against Americans and Iraqis each week, has dropped by 80 percent in the country since early 2007, according to figures the general provided. Civilian deaths, which peaked at more than 100 a day in late 2006, have also plunged. Car and suicide bombings, which stoked sectarian violence, have fallen from a total of 130 in March 2007 to fewer than 40 last month. In July, fewer Americans were killed in Iraq — 13 — than in any month since the war began.

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On Iraq, Obama should

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On Iraq, Obama should

deny the surge worked

16 votes

point out it won't last

5 votes

express hope that it is permanent

25 votes

acknowledge he was wrong on the surge

7 votes

wrong on surge, but right on opposition to war

10 votes

something else, see comment

15 votes

Pastor Rick Warren acknowledges his Bigotry

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Tuesday August 19, 2008 · 6:03 PM PDT

2008/08/19 · 18:03

It was on the Larry King show yesterday. He did not admit to a prejudice against Blacks, Jews or Women. In fact he implied that he would vote for most anyone except one group.

Larry King posed a question, " Does a person have to believe in god to be president?"

Warren's answer:

I would say so. I couldn't vote for a person who was an atheist, because I would think -- I think the presidency is a job too big for one person. I would think there's a little arrogance that says, I don't need anybody else. I could vote for someone of different religions than mine, but I don't know that I could personally vote for somebody who denies that we need somebody greater than ourselves to help us.

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Pastor Rick Warren is

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Pastor Rick Warren is

A religious bigot, who deserved condemnation.

98 votes

A good old boy, who has found a group to defame

25 votes

A regular main stream American, let it go

24 votes

A good man, who loves his God, as should we all

7 votes

None of above--see comment

17 votes

"60 Minutes" and the Triviality of Murder

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Tuesday July 29, 2008 · 7:38 PM PDT

2008/07/29 · 19:38

From the "GodFather" blockbuster movies, to "The Sopranos" the mafia has become a profitable genre for American entertainment. In the process, we have to ask whether our evaluation of these individuals has been shifted. By examining their lives, their internal struggles, their personal quirks and motivations has the outrage at their actions been lost. Has there been a shift from seeing these people as a scourge of society, to something quite different, members of a unique specialized community that must be judged on their own rules.

Last night 60 Minutes had an interviewwith John Martorano, Occupation: The Executioner. The tone of the interview was non judgmental, even friendly in recounting the old friendship between the subject and a deceased member of the 60 Minute staff.

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Saturday July 26, 2008 · 2:17 PM PDT

2008/07/26 · 14:17

Remember the slogan of the 2006 campaign for Congress, "End the Culture of Corruption." Actually it should have been "It's Our Turn Now." Yes, I know this is a blog whose purpose is to support the election of Democrats to office. But isn't this based on the assumption that Democrats are adhering to certain larger principles, other than simply perpetuating themselves in office.

The reason given for passing this bill in to prevent a meltdown of the housing market that will cause an economic catastrophe that could rival the great depression. And this is the answer given for any objection to the inherent unfairness, or imperfections or even perpetuation of a Moral Hazard, (see finance section) that could deeply undermine our free enterprise system

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