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As Stephen has noted in the post below, popular PA Rep. Jim Greenwood is unexpectedly retiring, giving Dems another pickup opportunity in a district that Gore and Rendell won in their respective elections.

With little prompting, you guys have reported at least $1,000 in new contributions to Democrat Virginia "Ginny" Schrader (in that previous post's comments).

I'll ante up. $50.01 from me. I would love for tomorrow's big story to be, "Schrader raises $10,000 online in a single night".

Is it time to add a candidate to the dKos 8? Not quite yet. Not until we see how things shake up. But this is a great opportunity to give a boost to one seriously lucky Democrat and see what happens.

And btw, this is why we must contest every district, every cycle.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:20 PM PDT.

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Comment Preferences

  •  Since we're counting... (4.00)
    ... $20.01 from another Massachusetts Liberal.
  •  Ten grand?!?!? (none)
    Man oh man. Get out the bat for that one.

    Alright, fine, I'll toss in $20.01 when I get home.

  •  Ch-ch-check it out (none)
    $30.01 for the lucky lass.  Go Ginny!
  •  Well over a $1,000 now BTW Kos... (none)
    If my calculations are right .. $1,215.31 as of 6:30pm.
  •  Just kicked in my $25 (none)
    Good luck from all of us a Dkos!

    The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much, it is whetherwe provide enough for those who have to little. -FDR

    by kamosa on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:29:10 PM PDT

  •  It might be a good idea to wait to donate money (none) already has a "Virtual Campaign Manager" poll asking if she should drop out and letter a stronger, more well-known candidate run or stay in the race. So, I'm sure some will ask her to drop out and let someone else run and we don't want to waste our money on someone who isn't going to even be in the election.

    Also, I don't really know how the campaign finance laws work and what would happen to the money if she does drop out. Does anyone know?

    •  Nonsense poll (none)
      So what you're describing is just an online poll, not any official indicator of Ginny's campaign strategy.

      Second, why would a sudden lack of opposition necessitate finding a "stronger" candidate than we'd run than when the incumbent was still running?

      •  There's something to that ... (none)
        I, for one, would be pretty happy to see a more qualified candidate in a winnable district.

        If there's a stronger D out there, Ginny should do the right thing and step down.

        •  Won't quit, give her money (none)
          Politicians are very ambitious people.  Schrader ran on a total longshot, putting aside her life for a year.  All I know about her is what's on her website, but very very rare is the politician who just lets someone else run.  And even then it's only because of scandal: Torricelli, Jack Ryan.

          Anyway, she sounds like a fine qualified candidate on her website -- roots in her district, law degree, attractive, life experience raising children, intelligent issue positions.

          Anyone know how she comes across as a candidate in person and in debates and such?

          Also, even though she only had $7000 in the bank, the PA primary wasn't that long ago.  She had a somewhat competitive primary to get the nomination.  My guess is that she's already raised and spent a fair amount.  It isn't like she's only managed to RAISE $7000.  

          Also, one of the articles linked on her site mentions that she decided to run for Congress instead of the state House because of encouragement from the folks at EMILY's list.  So, she seems to have some connections to people who know how to raise money.

          BTW, Greenwood spent over $800,000 on his last two races, and they weren't even very competitive.  This is a pricey district in suburban Philly.

          •  She has only raised $24,531 in total (none)
            And she has gotten only about $11,000 in the since March.

            Plus, she has a debt of $6,000 so her campaign, at least before today, had pretty much no money.


            •  No $$, no name ID, expensive district, ... (none)
              ... no experience. Any veteran staff? Media plan? What kind of shape is the local party organization in?

              It's a tough row to hoe.

            •  $24,531 in total? Is she even trying? (none)
              I hate to be negative here. It's great and all that people are sending her an infusion of a few thousand dollars right now, but it'll be kind of a waste if she's not making the effort to procure the rest of the funds that she will need to win this race.

              Because you can guarantee that the ultimate Republican candidate will be a great fund raiser.

              Let me put it this way. I worked WA-04 in 2000, a rural conservative district in Central Washington State. After 1994, Democrats have done nothing but wither and die out there. Our guy, Jim Davis, was running against three-term incumbent Doc Hastings. DCCC looked at the race but gave it a pass.

              And in the end, we lost by almost 20 points.

              You know how much money we raised and spent?

              $ 4 0 0 , 0 0 0

              She's in a district that Gore won and but she can only scrounge together less than $25,000? Come on. That's just lack of effort. And I'm willing to bet that lack of effort extends to other aspects of the campaign. I've seen far more hopeless campaigns do more than this.

              So yes, this is a prime example of why we need to run serious candidates in every district. Because we need one now...

              --- My opinions are my own and not my employer's.

              by Aexia on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:44:55 PM PDT

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              •  Do you think the district is hopeless? (none)
                Have you heard about any other strong Dem candidates who might be able to win in this district? Or is Ginny all they have?
                •  The district is very winnable (none)
                  It's not even about how "strong" the candidate is.

                  The question is whether she will make the effort to win.

                  Looking at her FEC reports, she has no paid staff and the only things she's bought are yard signs, lit and maybe some newspaper ads. That's fine if you're running for state house.

                  I'm guessing the fundraising operation has consisted of mailing the state party's donor list, holding a couple fundraisers and doing nothing else.

                  --- My opinions are my own and not my employer's.

                  by Aexia on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 06:11:23 PM PDT

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      •  Obviously the poll is just speculation (none)
        But, it shows that more people than just me are thinking that she may drop out of the race to let a stronger candidate run.

        And we would need a stronger candidate in an open race because she had no chance against Greenwood and she was just a sacrificial lamb. However, now there is a strong possibility that a Democrat can win this seat since Greenwood is out.

    •  we don't want that (4.00)
      It sounds like she is a genuine, regular American, who would like to give people a proper voice in the house.  That's what the blog community is all about supporting.  The dems replaced Dean with Kerry because they wanted a "stronger candidate" with more establishment credentials.  We don't have to let the old school Democratic party tell us where our money should go.

      I understand where you're coming form, but personally I would rather see if we can get this unexpected normal citizen in the House.

      By far the most important issue in politics is campaign finance reform.

      by jbrians on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:47:04 PM PDT

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      •  Looks like a qualified candidate to me (4.00)
        I kicked in $50, forgot the penny, worth the reminder so folks will not forget, so add $50 to whatever is reported.

        I take the position that one test of a "strong candidate" is someone who was willing to step up to the plate and file, while others were holding back.   If the GOP comes up with a big gun, then one might wish to re-evaluate the situation, as might she, but her website is an effective one, she and her husband struck me as nice folks, why go looking for what we already have?  an apparently committed and qualified candidate, in a district heavy with Democratic voters.

        Send her some money, so she can capitalize on her opponent's evaporation.   Don't you think the GOP is going to panic and start throwing energy toward plugging the gap?   I do, and she'll need logistics help and $$$ to fight with.

    •  It's a reasonable question (none)
      If we raise $10k and the party switches candidates, that money is locked out of this race (and for timing reasons, probably won't find it's way into other races this cycle).

      The district looks winnable and definitely not in tune with Bush mentality. Ginny looks like a decent rookie candidate with longstanding interest in public affairs but no experience in public office. Could be electable. Could be re-electable, but she'll be on a stiff learning curve.

      Who will the R's put up? They seem to have a deeper bench in the district -- though maybe they'll get into a moderates-v-wingnuts knife fight.

      I say keep pitching contributions, be ready to double up if she sticks in the race, but be ready to change horses too.

    •  She's in to win (4.00)
      The Bucks County chair asked another candidate not to run in the primaries to clear her path against Greenwood.  She's it.
      Read her press clippings: she got involved in politics after the Florida recount; she bought out a showing of F911 (at $7+ per ticket) and asked everyone who went to make a voluntary contribution of $10.  This is a candidate people can and should get excited about.
      Santorum is pushing for Tomlinson to replace Greenwood on the other side; Bucks County Republican leaders want Conti.  Any info on either of them?
    •  I already voted for Ginny (none)
      I voted for Ginny in the primary that put her in the election. She won. That's the democratic process. No high profile candidates with stronger chances showed up when the odds were really high, with Greenwood in the race. Emily's list encouraged her, then let her down. I say support her as the candidate who won the primary and get Emily's list to support her.

      Rob Kall

  •  I kicked in..... (none)
    $25.00 but forgot to add the penny, so add $25 to whatever final total you come up with.
  •  Ten bucks and a penny is all I got to give (4.00)
    That said, I'd love to see that $10,000 headline.


    Heh, we're like the Fremen in Dune. This huge potential on Arrakis and we're trying to get noticed by the Empire.

    /geek off

    •  you get a 4... (none)
      ..for your geekery and apt analogy.  

      The fremen were only thought to be small bands of smugglers and desert dwellers when indeed they comprised a force that would bring down an empire.

      Long live the fighters!

      "in the year 2000, fools will come to my house to beg me to stop pitying them, but it will be raining and i will not be home. so, i will continue to pity them."

      by zeroweek on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:21:57 PM PDT

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  •  Why the .01? (none)
    Why are people giving $15.01 and $25.01 and so forth?
    •  It allows them to track the donations (none)
      It allows them to track how many donations are coming from us.  That way we get the credit for the good we do.

      The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much, it is whetherwe provide enough for those who have to little. -FDR

      by kamosa on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:37:17 PM PDT

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    •  Marker (none)
      It's a simple way to credit Daily Kos as having referred the contribution.  The more $x.01 donations come in, the more clout this blog has, basically.
    •  Donation tracking (none)
      So that the campaign can keep track of how much money came from Kos.

      --- My opinions are my own and not my employer's.

      by Aexia on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:43:20 PM PDT

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      •  To all that responded: (none)
        cool, thanks for telling me. You guys deserve a lot of credit.

        I want to donate something, but I am not sure to whom or to what organization, nor am I sure of how much. It's not going to be a lot, mind you, since I am still a student.

        •  a little advice (none)
          You probably already know this, but your donation will usually make the biggest difference for campaigns that have very little money (for example, Ginny's campaign has a paltry $7000).  If they were to get another $5000, that's almost doubled their bank account overnight, whereas if the John Kerry campaign were to get another $5000, they wouldn't really notice any difference (what's $5000 when you've raised over $150 million?).  On the other hand, campaigns that have more money are generally the more "important" races (basically: President > US Senate > US House > State Senate/Assembly).

          Then there's the question of who YOU want to support, not just how your donation will make a difference.  That's where you need to look at the candidate's positions.  Maybe it's a dem but he/she is pro-FMA or pro-Iraq, and that doesn't jive well with you.  That's something you'd need to consider.  Maybe it's a totally longshot candidate, but you agree completely with every position that person has.

          I agree with you.  I don't have very much money to spread around to campaigns, and choosing which ones and how much to give is a very tough decision.  My donations are usually $5 or 10 each.  Sometimes I'll go back and donate to the same person again.  Sometimes it's because of something that happened very recently that I want to "reward good behavior," like Kerry choosing Edwards as his running mate.

          There's a lot to think about when you're making donations, especially when you're on a tight budget.  Hope this helps you out!

          •  I'm not too familiar with (none)
            all of the new campaign finance rules, so I am curious, is there any cut off date for giving money to Senate and House candidates?
            •  one cent (none)
              I first heard about the "one cent" from the Dean supports cent for the internet, etc.
              •  DKos was first (none)
                DFA promoted "add a penny" well after the Kosopolitans were doing it.  There's a standard that somehow developed months ago.  

                I tried to let the folks in Burlington know that DKos had the one-cent designation, but, well, politics being what it is ... (they even responded to my initial email, but ...)

                vote early - vote often

                by wystler on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:16:33 PM PDT

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            •  No Cut-off Date (none)
              Most continue accepting contributions after the campaign to pay off any outstanding debt.

              That being said, earlier donations are more helpful, because building name recognition costs $$$.  The only alternatives to advertising to build name recognition are hard-core canvassing (at the cost of oodles of shoe-leather), visibility events (slipshod), word of mouth (grossly inefficient) or getting involved in a big enough scandal to warrant free coverage in the media (not good for a candidate who wants to win).  It also costs $$$ to pay the basic bills to support a campaign office - rent, stationery, computers/phones, etc.

              Cash flow issues really can disrupt a candidate from doing the important thing - campaigning for votes.  By donating now, you'll help put them ahead of the game.

              vote early - vote often

              by wystler on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:13:51 PM PDT

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            •  Cut-off date (none)
              all of the new campaign finance rules, so I am curious, is there any cut off date for giving money to Senate and House candidates?

              November 2nd. ;)

              Actually, that isn't true. IIRC, you can give money past that date(that would apply to last cycle's limits) if there's debt to be retired.

              --- My opinions are my own and not my employer's.

              by Aexia on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:15:16 PM PDT

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        •  try actblue (none)
          they are a very good site and provide links to all the candidates running for federal office...

          The link is provided up thread (second post I think)

          For state races, check out DFA's Dean Dozen, they have tons of candidates (want 400 I think) and provide info on them...

  •  This has hit the blogsphere (none)
    like a nuclear explosion...

    I rushed around to post it but damnit, it was at every blog I visit....

    I can't wait to see what amount they raise by tomorrow....

    $10,000 is nothing...

    If just 1,000 people give $25, we could raise $25,000 overnight.....a lot of people giving a little bit makes repugs cry!!!!!!!!

  •  The DCCC blog has a quick post about this... (none)
    but no link to the Schrader campaign!!!!

    I love the DCCC blog (far better than the DSCC one, IMO) but I'm pretty disappointed that the didn't even link to teh Schrader campaign. Mentioned her and that they only have ~$7,000 in the bank but didn't bother to link.

    Added links to the Kos stories and the Schrader campaign to their comments. I really hope that the DCCC doesn't throw her under the bus for a 'better candidate.'  That kinda stuff realyl gets me. Run a 'better candidate' EVERY time. Quit with the sacrificial lambs in districts assumed to be 'safe' for the GOP.

    We must contest EVERY district.

    A Dean Democrat and proud of it. We will work together to take our country back.

    by descolada99 on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:40:22 PM PDT

  •  $25.01 (none)
    Just chipped in my 2501 cents, so to speak.

    Go get 'em, Ginny!!

  •  Turkee for Schrader (none)
    Given today - I matched Kos.  I think her position on same-sex civil union is good - more than just I support or I don't support.  

    I suggested that her website might admit that she's a Democrat.

    "pay any price, bear any burden"

    by JimPortlandOR on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:41:51 PM PDT

    •  I liked her SSex Marriage posting more than.. (none)
      .. most also.  Good for her for not ducking the issue.

      And since you are keeping track...
      I got an unexpected windfall today of $45... I guess it's a sign to forward it to Ms. Schrader (plus the penny!)

  •  I'm in... (none)
    ...for $25.01
  •  $25.01 from me, too. (none)
  •  It's nice to think that a Republican House seat (none)
    could go to the Democrats, but even if we win, we lose something. A moderate Republican will be leaving.
    •   A moderate Republican will be leaving. (none)
      Consider what happens when all the moderates take off.  The GOP will be so out of touch with the average conservative they will lose tons of votes. Maybe not in 2004, or 2006, but eventually.  Bush's "New GOP" could kill their position as a powerful national party.

      Why not? Who is buying all this anti-gay marriage nonsense? Who approves of Iraq? The core. Soon it will be the hard-core.  I'm looking forward to watching them implode.

    •  They are a dying breed.... (4.00)
      ...and it's a shame they are dying out, but at the start of every Congress they vote for Dennis Hastert and Tom DeLay as their leaders.   Everyday I picture President Kerry at the podium giving his 1st State of the Union Address with VP Edwards and Speaker Pelosi standing behind him.

      Arlen Specter isn't on your side. Joe Hoeffel is. Compare their records.

      by Jeff in PA on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:57:38 PM PDT

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      •  That would make me both smile and cry (none)
        This year, with GOP lunatics in charge everywhere, could be the year to get the Senate and House back in the people's hands.

        "pay any price, bear any burden"

        by JimPortlandOR on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:19:51 PM PDT

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      •  Great idea. (4.00)
        "Everyday I picture President Kerry at the podium giving his 1st State of the Union Address with VP Edwards and Speaker Pelosi standing behind him."

        Visualization is a very powerful mental tool, even more so when it's multiplied by the numbers available here. Think positive thoughts, people!

        We want to say to Bush, "Listen to the people, for often the voice of the people is the voice of God." -- Archbishop Desmond Tutu, February 15, 2003

        by Mnemosyne on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:46:38 PM PDT

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  •  $20.01 (none)
    From a Pittsburgher who wants to see my mauve state go true blue.  
  •  OK (none)
    in for 25.01

    It's amazing what happens when you listen to the other person's opinion --- GWB, 12/18/00

    by Doug in SF on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 03:53:15 PM PDT

  •  This is not really related to this open seat, but (4.00)
    it's good news nonetheless. I've just read that the reason Kerry is pulling money from Missouri is that he wants to stay out of the primary struggle between Gov. Bob Holden and Sec. of State Claire Haskell, something he felt he needed after a tense scene a while back. Once that's over, he plans to put more money into it.

    Interestingly enough, the columnist, Jo Mannies, suggests that he advertise through the mail. She cites a few examples of where it worked. nDocument&Headline=Kerry's+lower+profile+here+gives+3rd+District+hopefuls+an+opening

    •  Confirms my suspicions (none)
      Thanks.  I suspect that.  

      I have no idea how I will vote in that.  We must win this governorship.  If we lose, the Repugs will control General Assembly and the governor's mansion.  This will be a disaster for my state.

      Blind faith in bad government is not patriotic.

      by MoDem on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:33:55 PM PDT

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      •  Missouri: Holden v. McCaskill (none)
        They are debating at this very minute.  Listen in at

        Their second and last debate is tomorrow night at 7:00pm CDT.  Listen at the same place.

        IMHO Holden wins the August 3 primarily easily but will be out of money.  It is going to be very tough fight in the General.

  •  Since everyone else is doing it (none)
    I gave $50.01. Might double that once things settle down and she's still in...
  •  I think that she'll do just fine (none)
    If we can just convince her to get a new web designer.

    Heck, she's got a Master's degree and a law degree, her hubby is a Philly police dectective and most importantly, she had the courage to step up to the plate.

    From looking at her schedule it seems to me like she's running a vigorous campaign.

    A quick note- with the CampaignContribution system (from Aristotle) you can add a note- nothing but NOTHING boosts the spirits of a rookie candidate like a little cash and some good words. (And mention that you're a dKosmopolitan.)

    •  Her website is better than many PA Dem candidates (none)
      I agree that her website could be zippier, but it ain't bad.  If you want to see some truly uuuuugly sites, check out the sites for Steve Porter, Steve Drobac and Paul Politis, also running for US congressional seats from PA on the Dem ticket.  Ewwwww.  At least two of them are hopelessly underfunded.  But if any Kossacks with web design skills feel so inclined, let's give them the benefit of the "Kossack Eye for the PA Dem Guy".
      •  We Can Do Better for Her... (none)
        She has the basics it's true, but the packaging is choppy and unsophisticated.  If we could polish her site up a bit, it would make her more accessible to internet giving, taking her well beyond a mere $7,000 reserve.  Tonight's online fundraising drive should open her eyes to the vast potential and importance of a suave net presence.  

        Anyone out there have the time to offer their services or advice?  (That's if Schrader would like the help, of course.)

        More dangerous are the functionaries ready to believe and to act without asking questions.

        by Titian on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:43:12 PM PDT

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  •  Santorum and Hart want Tomlinson to run (none)
    According to Senator Rick Santorum and Congresswoman Melissa Hart are urging State Senator Tommy Tomlinson to run as the GOP nominee. He defeated former Democratic Congressman Kostmayer in his state senate race in 2002.
  •  I just contributed (4.00)
    $20.01, my first for a Congressional candidate and as a registered participant of Daily Kos.
  •  20.01 (none)
    Just contributed 20.01 to Schrader from a proud New Mexico liberal! Boy, this is fun!
  •  Kah - ching!!! (none)
    I just got this email.  It must mean I smell Republican fear.  Go Ginny!

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Schrader for Congress []
    Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:21 PM
    To: Ernest T Bass
    Subject: Thank you for your contribution!

    Confirmation No.:     118XXX
    Contribution To:      Schrader for Congress
    Name of Contributor:  MR Ernest T Bass
    Date of Contribution: 7/19/2004
    Amount:               $25.01

    Please print this receipt as acknowledgement of your contribution.

    If you have any questions regarding your contribution, or for further information, please send an email to the Contribution Administrator at Your contribution will appear as a charge to, not Schrader for Congress.

  •  It's a Wonderful Life! (none)
    Go Ginny Go!

    What the heck, I like this so much, I'll repeat it in this thread too.

    If It's a Wonderful Life were set around Halloween instead of Christmas, and we were bombarded with showings on TV before Election Day, we would never elect another Republican.

    George Bailey was a Democrat. Mr. Potter was a Republican.

    by 537 votes on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:21:46 PM PDT

  •  For those counting at home... (none)
    $450.09 given thus far through
  •  Another 25.01 (none)
    Go Ginny!

    I just love the idea that this woman is suddenly getting contributions from all over the country. I hope, if she doesn't know why, she figures it out fast!

  •  20.01 from an FL-13 resident! (none)
    Let's make those R's think twice about putting up another candidate to oppose Schrader!

    Meantime, in FL-13, we have FOUR candidates in the Democratic primary for Katherine Harris's seat.  They are having a forum tomorrow night in Bradenton.  I'll go, and report back as soon as I can.


    Doing my part to piss off the Religious Right.

    by AAbshier on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:25:02 PM PDT

  •  I gave $75!! (none)
    But I forgot to add the .01

    Anyway, here's the email confirm:

    Contribution To:      Schrader for Congress
    Name of Contributor:  MR ____
    Date of Contribution: 7/19/2004
    Amount:               $75.00

    Please print this receipt as acknowledgement of your contribution.

    If you have any questions regarding your contribution, or for further information, please send an email to the Contribution Administrator at Your contribution will appear as a charge to, not Schrader for Congress.

    Will James R. Bath reveal the secret behind George Bush's National Guard Service before it's too late?

    by pontificator on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:28:31 PM PDT

  •  $50.01 from San Diego.... (none)
    I can just taste a take-over of the House!
    •  That's turkee you're tasting! (none)
      And ain't it sweet?

      I'm in

      Confirmation No.:     118039
      Contribution To:      Schrader for Congress
      Name of Contributor:  MR L____
      Date of Contribution: 7/19/2004
      Amount:               $20.01

      "The Turkee Blues"

      The turkee flies on Monday, Tuesday I got no cash left in my account

      Yah, the turkee flies on Monday, Tuesday I have to go without

      But when that turkee flies on Monday, you know we'll throw the rascals out

      I don't belong to any organized political party, I'm a Democrat--Will Rogers

      by Dancing Larry on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:50:49 PM PDT

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  •  For the tally . . . (none)
    I sent $20.00 but forgot the .01. I mentioned it on the earlier thread but repeat here in case you missed it and want to amend the tally. This is so exciting.

    Candor defeats paranoia -- Allen Ginsberg

    by ponderer on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:41:20 PM PDT

  •  About what is happening (none)
    A little over a week ago I attended a fundraiser for Robin Carnahan, the daughter of Mel Carnahan (he died in the plane crash before the 2000 election) and Jean Carnahan who was named to his seat after he beat John Ashcroft.

    Robin talked about how amazed in 2002 when all of sudden huge amounts of money began to appear in their bank account.  I had the impression she was not aware of how her mother's campaign was pushed by the blogsphere and she is still not aware of how it is happening in this cycle.

    I wonder when the radical right figures out how to generate this enthusiasm.

    Blind faith in bad government is not patriotic.

    by MoDem on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:41:30 PM PDT

  •  From one PA mom (none)
    to another. Just contirbuted my $50.01
  •  $690.16 so far on ActBlue (none)

    Anyone else wish they could see the looks on the faces in the campaign office? :-)

  •  Little bit (none)
    $10.01 from Bush Country.
  •  Bat thread redux (4.00)
    Dunno if there's any of my fellow BFA alums here at the moment, but if there are, doesn't this thread remind you of something?  So much like the bat threads of the old days, dang, there's that lump in my throat again.

    I don't belong to any organized political party, I'm a Democrat--Will Rogers

    by Dancing Larry on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 04:55:44 PM PDT

  •  Tomlinson (none)
    He seems like yet another of the PA GOP Toomey/Hart/Santorum lunatic brigade. Would he be able to win in a district like this? Are they that welcoming to hard-righters?

    Greenwood has about 800K in the bank. Can that be given to whoever replaces him on the ballot?

    I hope that if they do replace the person currently on the Dem ballot, that the ugly flame wars and DLC mind games that accompanied the Salazar/Mike Miles CO primary don't start up again. Rendell seems to know what he's doing, for the most part.

    Will the stronger focus on this district help Bush or help Kerry?

    •  Tomlinson isn't as bad as Santorum (none)
      Tomlinson is fairly socially conservative and mixed on issues like the environment. So, he is better than Santorum and Hart. He may be too conservative for a district like this that leans slightly democratic nationally and slightly republican in the state. Jim Conti, the other GOP name being floated, is more moderate and would probably be a stronger candidate for the Republicans.
    •  800K in the bank (none)
      can't be transferred to another candidate's committee.

      I'm guessing everyone on his campaign staff will get fat bonuses and then they'll refund the rest. Not sure if they could even continue spending after dropping out.

      --- My opinions are my own and not my employer's.

      by Aexia on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 06:21:48 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  In for $50.01 (4.00)

    I have to say, Kos, that this site has done what 18 years - half my life now! - of frustration has not, and that's made me put my money where my mouth is politically.

    So far this year, by my calculations, I've donated almost $3000 to various campaigns large and small, and the majority of those donations stem from something I learned about right here.

    Thanks again for lighting the fire.

    "Nothing is built on stone; all is built on sand, but we must build as if the sand were stone." - Jorge Luis Borges

    by adamgreenfield on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:01:01 PM PDT

    •  Ditto Adam. (none)
      18 years of fuming rage and it took Howard Dean to show me a direction and the blogosphere to show me a way to make a difference. Until the still-rotting corpse of television advertising politics is finally driven into a shaft of pure light from the people and explodes into the ash it was always made of, Cash is King. So I help where I think it will help most. Ginny's the latest. Go team!

      Never pet a burning dog.

      by El Payo on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:26:42 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  $25.01 from Rhode Island... (none)
    I doubt Patrick Kennedy will miss it.

    "Nonsense!" said Alice, very loudly and decidedly, and the Queen was silent.

    by RIposte on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:01:27 PM PDT

  •  I'm in ... (none)
    For $20.01.
  •  Bucks County (none)
    Mining the Almanac (subscription only--buy the book and you get a subscription) for some quick stats that may be of interest: PA-08 is Bucks County (pop. 646,000); third highest income in the state (median $59,000); mostly urban; mostly white; blue collar 21%, white collar 68%; 4.5% poverty status; 13% veterans.

    PA-08 went 51% for Gore (46% Bush) in 2000.

    And, last but not least, it looks like Greenwood spent around $890,000 on his campaign in 2002 (he won with 63%).

    I'm &y and I approved this message.

    by abw on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:04:02 PM PDT

    •  And I'll add (none)
      Anecdotally, I know that at least a few of those white collar Bucks County people are arch-liberal professors (like my metallurgy advisor) at the University of Pennsylvania. I shall have a word about campaign contributions with them all when we next meet--for they have what's known as disposable income and they cannot stand the way things are going under the Republicans.

      Oh, one more thing I should have written above (but you probably guessed): PA-08 is a big chunk of suburban Philadelphia. There is one district between it and the urban districts (Joe Hoeffel's district, the 13th).

      I'm &y and I approved this message.

      by abw on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:20:47 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  A Small Corner of Philly, Too (none)
        In the 2002 election I was surprised to get to my polling place and discover that I wasn't voting in the contested PA-13 election. A handful of divisions were tucked into PA-08 in the 2000 redistricting, which I hadn't even heard about in any of the press coverage. Ticked me off something fierce.

        Also, Bucks County shares a border with Northeast Philadelphia, so it does bump up against the city limits. In fact, I believe Tomlinson's office is a stone's throw outside Philadelphia. Granted, the far NE is the Republican pocket of Philadelphia. But it's part of the old PA-03 that was solid Dem and most of it's now in Hoeffel's PA-13.

  •  OT--open thread? (none)
    Sorry to bust in on the love-fest here, but Kos or whoever, when you have a chance could we get another open thread?  The last one is buried . . .

    Okay, resuming regular programming.  Go Ginny!  They're gonna be one surprised campaign tomorrow morning . . .

    Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. - Albert Einstein

    by Leslie in CA on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:10:01 PM PDT

  •  SSP (none)
    Just tossed in $25.01 via ActBlue - and posted about Ginny on my blog. Suggest doing so if you have a blog of your own - let's light up the blogosphere tonight.

    Swing State Project - Analyzing the 2004 battleground states.

    by David Nir on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:10:25 PM PDT

  •  Turkee for Ginny! (none)
    Mark it, Dude. $50.01 from me.

    Never pet a burning dog.

    by El Payo on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:11:55 PM PDT

  •  20.01 for Schrader (none)
    It is so exciting to see this community in action - we may be looking at 1994 turned inside out!
  •  mo' money (none)
    I contributed $20.01 an hour or two ago, then realized it didn't track to Kos because I didn't do it through Act Blue so I didn't get the fun of watching the numbers pile up.  So I went back to Act Blue and gave another $10.01.

    What the heck, it's only money.

  •  I gave $20.01 earlier... (none)
    in case it hasn't been counted yet. Did it through her site, and mentioned I was from dKos.
  •  on the issues (none)
    I went to her (much-maligned) website and her positions on the issues made up my mind for me real easily.  She has nicely articulated positions that I agree with on a number of issues.  I was on the fence about contributing, but that convinced me.  Just another $15.01, but I guess every little bit.  

    I really wish I could have seen her face as all these contributions started coming in!

  •  Another $20.01 thru ActBlue (none)
    I read her positions on the issues and thought they were clear, strong, to the point, and right on the money. So I sent her some of mine  - thru ActBlue.

    Go Ginny!

    "Those who betray the trust...are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors." - George HW Bush

    by DavidW in SF on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:35:45 PM PDT

  •  Another $25.01 (none)
    From Nevada.  Time for those of us on the West Cost who are just getting home to step up to the plate.  
  •  I'm just a poor pizza delivery guy... (none)
    But I threw in my $10.01.
  •  50.01 (none)
    from New Mexico!  The Spirit of the Deaniacs LIVES!
  •  $20.01 from Seattle (none)
    through ActBlue. Pretty cool. I also just coughed up another $20.01 for Nancy Farmer, because I got a really lovely thank you letter from her today for last quarter's (very modest) donation. Nice that they take the time to send a letter to small donors, too.

    liberal: Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. (American Heritage Dict.)

    by Joan McCarter on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 05:58:51 PM PDT

  •  Who will the GOoPers put up? (none)
    Will they end up fielding Greenwood's ultra-conservative primary challenger, Joseph V. Montone?

    BTW, here's the results from the PA-8 primary:

    District 8

        Candidate     Votes    

        SCHRADER, VIRGINIA WATERS (DEM)     23,794    

        LINGENFELTER, TOM (DEM)     15,934    

        MONTONE, JOSEPH V. (REP)     17,119    

        GREENWOOD, JIM (REP)     38,024    

    Haven't been able to find any links to Montone's primary site so far.

    "Those who betray the trust...are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors." - George HW Bush

    by DavidW in SF on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 06:02:35 PM PDT

  •  Add me to the list (none)
    $25.01 from me.  I also liked the comments on Gay marriage.
  •  1501 pennies (none)
    keep rockin', folks.
  •  $100.01 from Philadelphia (4.00)
    This is a very winnable district, but it's also very, very sensitive to carpetbagger money.  Ginny's not a superstar, but she can take the seat if Rendell and Brady go out there to raise $ for her.

    I'm in for $100.01

  •  $50.01 (none)
    from Pittsford NY
  •  wow... (none)
    14K in one night.. likely to hit 20K I would imagine.  these fundraising things are expensive.. though not much different than a movie ticket, parking, soda and popcorn, that's about 20 bucks where I live!

    Bush must not be elected in '04!

    by esherard8 on Mon Jul 19, 2004 at 06:16:51 PM PDT

  •  I'm in (none)
    $50 that I can't afford are being delivered to Ginny. And a penny.

    I know what its like to run a tough race in PA when the CW is you don't have a chance. I worked my ass off for Scott Conklin in PA 09 back in '01, when the Conventional Wisdom was we didn't have a chance. We gut snubbed by just about everyone who could in DC, (including the ineffective and arrogant DCCC...glad to see they're slowly changing their tune), and ended up losing by a tiny tiny margin. I remain convinced that if the blogosphere were just a wee bit more developed back then, you would have put us well over the top and we'd have another D voting for Speaker Pelosi today.

    Keep giving folks. It's all about the small donations. Small and loosely joined is a great motto for 2004.


  •  Nice (none)
    More good knowledge to know.

    Faux news needs faux wood blinds to shade the failures of the Bush presidency.

    by dopies on Sat Sep 04, 2004 at 02:04:49 AM PDT

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