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I'm at JFK waiting for my flight out, and there's lots of good stuff in my email. Such as this, from Oliver Willis over at Media Matters:
The soldier's letter that Bush referenced in his acceptance speech was from Joe Roche, adjunct fellow at the National Center for Public Policy Research.

"The National Center is THE CENTER for conservative communications." - Tom Delay

Nice. And Bush made it sound as though it was a genuine letter from an average soldier. It was a PR missive.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 02:25 AM PDT.

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  •  our president forgot to read (none)
    the webmaster note.
  •  I AM SHOCKED.... (none)
    ....ok, so I'm not shocked at all.  

    Now for the diary whoring.  This is the full text of Bush's speech with annotations and commentary noting some inaccuracies and inconsistencies.  

    Visit my blog for no apparent reason! And don't vote for Bush.

    by utlaw guy on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 02:33:10 AM PDT

  •  Editorial on the Fear Factor (none)
    But for all their fear stoking and vitriol, the Republicans could not credibly rebut Democratic claims that Bush and Cheney have bungled the war on Al Qaeda. That they led America on a wild goose chase in Iraq that fomented extremism where there was none. That they recklessly alienated allies. And that they embody a "crony capitalism" that rewards the privileged and neglects the needy, even as it drives the nation deeper into debt.

    Those charges have yet to be answered.

    But in this season of simple-minded attack politics, American voters are unlikely to hear the candidates seriously debate these matters. Voters can only steel themselves for even nastier sound bites. Years after 9/11 Al Qaeda's impact continues to be felt. The fear factor still holds the world's mightiest nation firmly in its irrational grip. mp;cid=1094163010850&call_pageid=968256290204&col=968350116795

    Our hopes are high. Our faith in the people is great. Our courage is strong. And our dreams for this beautiful country will never die. - Pierre Trudeau

    by tribe34 on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 02:43:31 AM PDT

  •  60 Days (none)
    This thing is going to be a very ugly war.


    Interesting fact of the day:

    Since 1952, every Republican ticket except one has had a Nixon, Dole, or Bush on the ticket.

    Those are all folks who are highly skilled at fighting dirty.  Hope against fear, indeed.

    •  But it was the same Nixon or Dole every time (none)
      not "a Dole" or "a Nixon" unless Julie ran and I missed it.

      I don't know if it's letting them off easy or making it worse to say that since 1952, they only had one ticket w/o Tricky Dick, Bob Dole, GHW Bush or W.

      "We cannot out-psycho Al Queda" -- Jon Stewart

      by sendtoscott on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 08:34:29 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Bush by numbers: Four years of double standards (none)
    A terrific ariicle in The Independent

    "1 Number of Bush administration public statements on National security issued between 20 January 2001 and 10 September 2001 that mentioned al-Qa'ida.

    104 Number of Bush administration public statements on National security and defence in the same period that mentioned Iraq or Saddam Hussein."

    •  Ditto (none)
      Flagging steveb's Independent article (link above) as being a good "send to Rethug friends to piss them off" article.
      0 Number of minutes that President Bush, Vice-President Dick Cheney, the Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, the assistant Defence Secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, the former chairman of the Defence Policy Board, Richard Perle, and the White House Chief of Staff, Karl Rove ­ the main proponents of the war in Iraq ­served in combat (combined).
  •  NY Times editorial (none)
    OUCH.  That has to sting a little.  

    "One should guard against believing the great masses to be more stupid than they actually are"

    by HiD on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 03:14:12 AM PDT

  •  Roche (none)
    I just realized I've read this guys editorials in the my local newspaper.  Scroll down on the following web page to see some of what he has written about M. Moore destroying military morale and a soldier's view of Reagan's death.

    He got out of Iraq about the same time as my cousin -- but has a bit different take on the situation there.

    I hope he brought back good pictures and video footage for his political campaigns.  We may have to do some grass roots work against this guy in 2028.  

  •  AWESOME Washington Post article (none)
    This article does a very good job of clarifying all the distortions on Kerry's record....and it's on page 1 of the Washington Post!  There's very little "he said, she said" junk, and a lot of facts.

    Kerry's vote last year against the administration's $87 billion proposal to fund troops in Iraq and pay for Iraqi reconstruction has also been the focus of Republican attacks. "My opponent and his running mate voted against this money for bullets, and fuel, and vehicles, and body armor," Bush said last night.

    Kerry actually supported all those things, but as part of a different version of the bill opposed by the administration. At the time, many Republicans were uncomfortable with the administration's plans and the White House had to threaten a veto against the congressional version to bring reluctant lawmakers in line.

    This post is just a preview. Get the full effect at

    by TrentL on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 04:48:07 AM PDT

  •  Reminds Me (none)
    of Tim Russert airing a letter to the editor during a Dean interview that was written by one of Kerry's people.

    On another note ... Arnold made a glaring gaffe that no one is covering ...

  •  Something Fishy (none)
    A co-worker friend of mine, formerly a JAG in the military, doubted the authenticity of this Roche letter that's being discussed here.

    There are apparently two men named "Joseph Roche" in the Army and it appears at least possible that neither of them is the Joseph Roche who wrote this letter. Neither of them is in an Engineer Batallion.  

    It would be a truly foolish move if this letter was made up.

    "I want my country back." - Howard Dean

    by Answer Guy on Fri Sep 03, 2004 at 06:41:41 AM PDT

    •  Bush: the lies are the worst part (none)
      The world is a hard place. If Kerry had been president for the last 4 years, maybe he would have walked into some of the same traps as Bush.

      The problem is that Bush is so intellectually dishonest and arrogant that he makes every situation worse than it has to be.

      He doesn't even try to put a positive spin on reality. He just plain lies, then he cackles as his buddies libel his opponents. In this case, he illustrates his fundamental dishonesty by using a fake letter simply to save a little time. Of course, if his people weren't a bunch of lazy bums, they could have gone through the White House mail and found a similar kind of letter written by a real soldier who doesn't work for the NCPA.

  •  and another thing... (none)
    Authentic or not, that letter from Roche was written in early April.  Apparently not even denizens of far-right thinktanks have had anything laudatory to say about the occupation of Iraq for the last five months.
  •  Make a list (none)
    Can someone please make a list of the things Bush said in the speech that were just utter lies or intentional propaganda, e.g.

    -Soldiers Letter
    -10 million Afghan voters when their are only 9.8 million registered

    much appreciated

  •  Could this backfire on Roche? (none)
    You know - we discussed the other day the issue that active-duty members of the armed forces if present as delegates would be in violation of DOD 1344.10.

    Reading over that statute, and given that this was a political essay now being used at a partisan convention in a speech designed to solicit votes - mr Roche might want to contact the President and ask him not to use that letter again for partisan reasons as knowingly allowing it to be used thusly may put him in violation of that very regulation.

  •  sweet damn i knew it (none)
    as i watched bush's speech in real time, i kept thinking that this soldier seems awfully familiar with the letter-to-the-editor templates at the RNC website.

    god bless MMFA

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