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Milwaukee County Executive Scott Walker, citing vote-fraud concerns, is publicly balking at a City of Milwaukee request for almost 260,000 additional ballots in anticipation of high turnout for the Nov. 2 presidential election.

Mayor Tom Barrett blasted Walker's stance, and Common Council President Willie Hines Jr. immediately joined in, saying it was an attempt to suppress the central-city vote.

"I'm going to lay this at the footsteps of the county if there aren't enough ballots in the city," said Barrett.

Barrett said that the 679,000 ballots the county had agreed to print were less than the amount prepared for the presidential election in 2000 as well as for the the gubernatorial race in 2002. He and the city's top election official said that the city requested 938,000 ballots from the county, which, by law, pays for and prints ballots.

Guess what party Mr. Walker calls his own.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 12:48 PM PDT.

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  •  the main stream media needs to get their ass .. (none)
    .. into gear.
  •  Jeez (none)
    The state must believe that the local election officials will use the "extra" ballots to stuff the ballot-boxes. Quite a feat to accomplish if anyone can count.

    Iraq is deja vu all over again.

    by chuco35 on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 04:52:45 PM PDT

  •  Amidst all of this chaos (4.00)
    a great article to read for reassurance for election day is here.

    (Sorry if I'm OT, but all these registration fraud stories are getting me angry and this article was a welcome relief.)

    GOP: All 9/11 All The Time

    by wry twinger on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 04:53:41 PM PDT

  •  Ummmmm....he's a (none)
    er, um, just a minute let me at least guess...he's a Republican?
    Has this guys been living under a ROCK does he see the reports of the rise in voter reg all over the country. Has he heard of ACT? Does he know they are in his state?
    Wake up! The media needs to crawl all over this!
  •  Let Walker hear you (none)
    This Walker character is a shady bastard.

    Feedback form here

  •  Party! (none)
    Guess what party Mr. Walker calls his own.

    If I hear one more Republican say that they are the party of Lincoln, I'm going to toss my cookies.

    If Lincoln were alive today, only a total moron would think he'd be a Republican.

    Oh, right ...

  •  what the hell? (none)
    Why are we just finding out about all of this as voter registration periods are closing?  This really sucks.
  •  Walker... (4.00)
    ...is the biggest tool in the toolbox.  He has his eyes on the governor's mansion in 2006 and appears to be willing to do whatever it takes to get there.   Ethics?  Fairness?  What are those?

    So, like the vast majority of GOPers today, the means no longer matter to Mr. Walker, just the ends.  How sad that this is now the norm.  Lincoln must be spinning in his grave.

  •  ...and Oregon, too... (none)
    Salon.com says a canvasser was seen tearing up completed voter reg forms.

    Oregon college students are also complaining that they were "snookered" into changing their registration from Dem to Repub.

    We need the UN to scope this election out, and fast.

    One-fifth of the people are against everything all the time.--Bobby Kennedy

    by blksista on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 04:59:20 PM PDT

    •  Can't Be "Snookered". (none)
      It doesen't matter what party your registration card says, you can vote for Kerry either way. The Rs were the ones getting snookered if they thought this would help them. Indeed, by declaring R, these registrants probably insured their applications wouldn't be trashed. Now they can safely vote for Kerry in the privacy of the secret polling booth.

      Iraq is deja vu all over again.

      by chuco35 on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:18:07 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  That's actually good news (none)
      It means their cards weren't ripped up and it means we've understated Dem registration.
  •  Hey hey Ho ho now Scott Walker needs to go (none)
    At the risk of being a broken phonograph record ...
    The chairman of the county commission, Doug Haag, who is also the Republican Party's chairman in Milwaukee County, went further.
    Haag said Republican Party officials questioned why voter-registration groups seem to target only Milwaukee's central city and students on the city's east side. And he noted that Wisconsin has same-day registration.

    "Why is there this need to get all these people registered?" Haag said. "If people want to vote, they will vote. If they want to stay in bed and not vote, they don't have to bother."

    These asshats are arrogant and racist.

    Walker rode in on a recall and if he doesn't at least reach a reasonable compromise with Mayor Barrett and city Election Director Artison, then he can ride out on one.

    If there are any Milwaukee county residents reading this who would be willing to circulate a recall petition after 11.2 if Walker fails to compromise on the number of ballots, write to me at:

    paulhmonkey (at) yahoo (dot) com

    For now, let's fire up the LTEs and write to the appropriate officials.

    "The revolution starts now / When you rise above your fear / And when you tear the walls around you down" - Steve Earle

    by pHunbalanced on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:00:44 PM PDT

  •  We need to contact (none)
    Attorney General's office, who is a Democrat.  
    If that doesn't work, have the mayor ask that all poll workers make, oh 1500 copies of ballots per precinct, and count all the ballots.

    I think this is an organized ploy by the Rethugs.  They are specifically refusing ballots because most likely they intend to send Rethug operatives into each polling place, spoil 100 ballots to cast one vote, and thus there won't be any ballots left when the voting rush comes.

    What scumbags.  Everyone can help out here by voting absentee to reduce the rush at the end.

    •  Not so much the AG, (none)
      as the Wisconsin State Elections Board, which is tri-partisan. 4 Dems, 4 GOP, and a Libertarian. (The LP got a seat with major party status after taking 10% in the 2002 Governor race.)

      The next meeting of the State Elections Board is scheduled for Wednesday, October 20, 2004, at 9:30 a.m.  This meeting will be held in the Brookfield Municipal Courtroom, Public Safety Building, 2100 North Calhoun Road, Brookfield, Wisconsin.

      Wisconsin State Elections Board
      17 West Main Street, Suite 310 
      P.O. Box 2973
      Madison, WI 53701-2973

      Phone: (608) 266-8005

      Fax: (608) 267-0500

      Your Blunder War is showing.

      by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:12:35 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Can't the AG sue (none)
        the County executive for violating state and federal voting rights laws?

        Also can we convince the Libertarian on the Elections board to overturn this shit(but  Libertarians don't like government.)

        •  I have some influence (none)
          as the 2nd Congressional District rep on the Wisconsin Libertarian Party's Executive Board. But I suspect this will be fixed before the Elections Board meets next week.

          Your Blunder War is showing.

          by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:31:14 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  My Diary last night (none)
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/13/5015/1720

    "While additional ballots for the City's optical scan machines could be printed when precincts ran out (several Madison wards went to Kinkos for extra ballots in 1996), there would be delays, and the need for extra ballots suggests lines even before running out.

    Better arrange pizza deliveries keep voters waiting at polling places."

    Your Blunder War is showing.

    by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:06:57 PM PDT

    •  Read my post above (none)
      but why can't they make a thousand photocopies before the voting even starts?

      And as I said above I see a planned job here.  It wouldn't suprise me if they plan on sending Rethug people to use up a 100 ballots and 45 minutes to waste time and ballots to prevent people from voting.  You may see this in other places as well.

      •  photocopies won't scan (none)
        We use scanners here. Fill out the ballot and feed it into the machine. It's counted by a computer, but with a hand-penciled paper backup. Sorta like the multiple choice tests you used to take in school. (I don't know if they do that anymore)

        "The revolution starts now / When you rise above your fear / And when you tear the walls around you down" - Steve Earle

        by pHunbalanced on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:19:43 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  not a problem (none)
          In the '98 Madison shortfall photocopies were used, and handcounted in a crunch.

          Your Blunder War is showing.

          by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:23:49 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Excellent (none)
            As long as there is a precedent of this being accepted by the GOPers, then we're in okay shape.

            The city should be sure to give the "official" ballots to the wards that are inclined to go 65-95% D and send the photocopied ballots to the wards that tend to go 50-60% R.

            "The revolution starts now / When you rise above your fear / And when you tear the walls around you down" - Steve Earle

            by pHunbalanced on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:29:11 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

        •  My bad (none)
          but that doesn't change the deal.  Just have the Milwaukee mayor direct the printing out of 1000 extra ballots per precinct and tell Walker to go put his dick up his ass.
          •  Well (none)
            The county orders the ballots. According to Ben your photocopy plan should work, as there is a precedent. We just need to make sure the questionable ballots go to the wards that are less solidly Democratic.

            "The revolution starts now / When you rise above your fear / And when you tear the walls around you down" - Steve Earle

            by pHunbalanced on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:30:55 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  Different ballots (none)
              They need to be customized down to the Assembly District, at least. Any special elections for local races, School Board, etc. in Milwaukee this cycle?

              Your Blunder War is showing.

              by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:36:11 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Oh shit (none)
                There are several assembly seats contested in Milwaukee this year. I don't beleive there are any local initiatives and most local races are taken care of in Spring.

                "The revolution starts now / When you rise above your fear / And when you tear the walls around you down" - Steve Earle

                by pHunbalanced on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:38:50 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

          •  Milwaukee City Clerk (none)
            rather than Mayor. At least in the '98 Madison shortfall that's how it was done.

            Your Blunder War is showing.

            by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:40:08 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

  •  Office Contact Info (4.00)
    Scott Walker  

    901 N. 9th Street
    Courthouse, Room 306
    Milwaukee, WI 53233-1458  

    Office Email: CountyExec@milwcnty.com  
    Office Phone: 414-278-4211  
    Office Fax: 414-223-1375  

  •  it happned in 1998 (none)
    In 1998 Dane County (Madison) ran out of ballots. I know a bunch of people at the polling place I covered for Tammy Baldwin's campaign did not vote. People were expected to wait at the polling place an indefinite amount of time until new ballots arrived.

    This would have been a huge issue if Feingold lost by a narrow margin since most of the disenfranchised would be Feingold voters.

    Wisconsin has same-day voter registration so, in theory, one can have more people vote at a precinct than are even registered there.

    Election supervisors need to be cautious. Running out of ballots corrupts the process.

    •  how many? (none)
      IIRC I had a list of about 24 people that walked away rather than vote in one precinct.
      •  You're right... (none)
        it was '98, not '96 as I posted above. Which polling place were you at?

        Your Blunder War is showing.

        by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:21:18 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Badger Bowl (none)
          The Badger Bowl was across the street.
        •  All about the Feingold (none)
          FEINGOLD! I think you've just nailed this one on the head, pal.

          Feingold owed his re-election to Tammy Baldwin's amazing GOTV campaign in 1998. Feingold's appeal in 1998 was limited to the urban areas (esp. Madison & Milwaukee), whereas the rural areas of the state (i.e., the rest of the state) voted for conservative flake, Mark Neumann. I remember the margin of victory being 2% or less. Without the UW-Madison student turnout, Feingold would have lost.

          While Feingold is likely stronger across the state for his seniority in Congress, the Rethugs would love to take out an urban area, and get Feingold out. Let's beat this back, Milwaukee!

          •  Russ is much stronger up Nort' (none)
            than he was in '98. All those listening sessions add up, the Patriot Act is unpopular, and he has changed his views and votes on 2nd Amendment issues. The last Badger Poll, while poorly weighted, had a quarter of all Bush voters splitting their tickets to vote for Feingold.

            Your Blunder War is showing.

            by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 06:36:33 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  Forget corruption (none)
      State, local and county officials need to start running the cost-benefits of
      not having enough ballots.

      That could turn into a law and order issue, very quickly.

      And the army and most of the national guard is overseas.

      Only GOPeacocks are allowed to preen. :)

      by cskendrick on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:30:04 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  do the right thing; fix the problem (none)
        They should have enough ballots b/c it's the right thing to do.

        If 100,000 ballots are a fraud hazard 100 extra ballots are a fraud hazard. Fix the problem that allows extra ballots to be "insecure". Don't limit the number of ballots.

        •  Speaking of ballots (sorry for delay) (none)
          Florida's FUBAR all over again.

          It's the ultimate voter suppression tactic:

          We're stupid down here at Election Central; you might as well not vote!

          You can't fight stupid. It's the most powerful force in the universe.

          You can only hope to contain it. :)

          Thanks to GW, Clinton may yet be on Mt. Rushmore. :)

          by cskendrick on Mon Oct 18, 2004 at 01:48:03 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  I reported this to my ACT leader in Milwaukee (4.00)
    and she wrote back:

    "Thank you.  I am speechless at how unacceptable this is.  Infuriated, in fact.  I just forwarded it to our state director, among others.  She
    had not seen it yet.  This should get distributed as widely as possible. I am going to forward it to WI Citizen Action next.

    Thank you."

    I am asking all Wisconsinites and Milwaukeeans in particular to join me in a letter-to-the editor campaign regarding this story.  I think we need to get ACT, MoveOn and WI Citizens Action volunteers all over the state to get this blasted all over TV news and print news in the state.  I'll provide all the contact info when I get home from work.

    •  Urge people to get out and vote EARLY (none)
      Before the ballots run out. Leave the Repugs standing around wondering why they can't vote.

      I am angry that so many sons of the powerful and well-placed ... managed to wrangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units - Colin Powell

      by Pescadero Bill on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:55:13 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  You Can Smell the Fear (4.00)
    It's becoming abundantly clear that the only way that the GOP feels it can win (read, "steal") the election is through a coordinated campaign of voter suppression, intimidation and registration fraud.  While in a sense, that's really good news for our team in that they recognize that we have an inherent advantage, there remains a distinct possibility that due to the short timeframe between now and Election Day, they could get away with it -- or at least enough to achieve their desired result.

    In addition to promoting this out to the "mainstream" media, local, state and federal authorities, this should serve as further incentive to assist the many attorneys (including trial lawyers!) who have volunteered and enlisted to take these battles into court on citizens' behalf.  Here's a link to volunteer for the DNC's Voting Rights Initiative:
    http://www.democrats.org/vri/volunteer/index.html

  •  A Socialist city... (none)
    It just goes to show that even the opposition knows if everyone voted, Democrats would always win.
  •  Could This Be Kerry's Haymaker? (4.00)
    Tonight JK could cite 4-5 specific instances of Bush's field operatives all over the country blatantly trying to disenfranchise voters -- then ask (indirectly, if course) Bush if he'd tell his operatives to stop. Bush's obvious comeback is that there are charges of irregularities both ways -- and that's where Kerry'd have him: JK could say something to the effect of, "I've given you five [or whatever] specicifc instances of your operatives trying to run a crooked election, Mr. President. I could give you another dozen if time permitted. Can you, sir, provide one specific example of my supporters trying to turn this into a fraudulent election? (Any half-bright Freeper -- but I repeat myself -- could do it. But ya know darn well Dubya couldn't.)

    Then after the "debate," stick with it: find one polite, bland way after another to suggest that the GOP's trying to steal another election.

    It'd be exactly the kind of titillation America loves, and a small bit of election theft insurance to boot.

  •  Worst case plan (none)
    Print extra ballots privately. Come to the rescue when the County paid batch runs out.

    Your Blunder War is showing.

    by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:16:24 PM PDT

    •  That's Illegal (none)
      Only the state can legally print ballots. But your post points out the obvious flaw in the state saying that it won't print the extra ballots the local officials are asking for in an effort to prevent fraud. Shoot, if anyone wanted to stuff the boxes they could just have extra ballots printed themselves and do so. It's not like printing money. But of course it's hard to get away with.

      The reasoning behind not printing sufficient ballots is pure old fashioned hogwash.

      Iraq is deja vu all over again.

      by chuco35 on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:29:23 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Colorado has major problems too (none)
    Link

    Although this story is a couple weeks old and I know I've seen diaries and comments regarding it, it is prevalent to this conversation.  While the GOP CO SOS's new rule does not affect presidential ballots, it makes it impossible for CO's newly registered voters (of which there are about 300k link) and anyone else who doesn't go to the correct precint to vote for anyone else running for office in the state.  That's votes taken away from Thomas, Salazar (both of them), Conti, and all local races.  So far the SOS's office is only sending form BS responses to emails.  It's a blatant violation of Bush v. Gore, the 14th amendment, and the HAVA (which the SOS claims only gurantees the right to vote for president and no one else).  What a dirty tramp!!!

  •  Who cares? (1.83)
    People, stop worrying already!  It is clear that the Democratic leaders want us to focus on the issues.  Don't let concerns about not being allowed to vote distract us from the issues.  We must stay focused.

    After all, if voter suppression was really a problem, surely the DNC would be calling for FBI investigations, Congressional hearings, journalistic investigations, etc.  So far I haven't heard anything significant.  That must mean that our votes are secure.  They are the experts.

    So please let us return to the important issues of the campaign.

  •  ACORN? (none)
    Does anyone know anything about the GOTV group ACORN?  I've just been reading lots of stories about fraud and their voter registration effort in several states, including NM, CO and FL.  They're left-friendly.

    I'd like to think that it's not true.  Can anyone confirm/deny?

    I'll post links if people are interested.

    That was a _big_ mistake, Bart. No children have ever meddled with the Republican Party and lived to tell about it. - R. Terwilliger

    by MrSnrub on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:25:43 PM PDT

    •  ACORN Is Not Doing What The Rs (none)
      are doing. they are registering and turning in both R and D registration forms. They have not been accused of doing otherwise. The Rs tried to make a big deal out of the criminal backgrounds of some of the ACORN registrars. But it died down because there was no voter fraud or other harm shown. ACORN is a non-party affiliated organization of community volunteers. The stuff we've been talking about involves R operatives and R money. ACORN has a long established funding base which does not include the DNC or other party connected grouping, and has been doing community work independently for decades.

      This is like comparing rotten apples and sweet oranges.

      Iraq is deja vu all over again.

      by chuco35 on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:42:10 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Please (none)
    CALL SCOTT WALKER'S OFFICE.

    TELL HIM TO PRINT ENOUGH BALLETS AND STOP SUPPRESSING THE VOTE.

    OR

    WE'LL START A RECALL TO SEND HIM OUT THE SAME WAY HE CAME IN!!!!

    Scott Walker  
    901 N. 9th Street
    Courthouse, Room 306
    Milwaukee, WI 53233-1458  

    Office Email: CountyExec@milwcnty.com  
    Office Phone: 414-278-4211  
    Office Fax: 414-223-1375  

  •  Get to court NOW (none)
    and seek a writ of mandamus.

    Walker will move once someone delivers one.  A court directive to an official to do his job under penalty...

    O it is excellent to have a giant's strength; but it is tyrannous To use it like a giant--Shakespeare, Measure for Measure, Act II

    by ogre on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:34:00 PM PDT

    •  No more Mr. Nice Guy. (none)
      Walker is an asshat. We can't play nice with him. Someone in Milwaukee has got to know a good local Democrat attorney who'll jump on this.
      •  Gerry Boyle? (none)
        just kidding
      •  This Is Too Widespread (none)
        and nationally organized by the RNC for a good local D lawyer here and there to deal with. The DNC needs to step up and fund a sufficient legal response. We need to get some of those silk stocking guys (or ladies) from Philly or DC involved, and on retainer with the DNC. And the DNC needs to act fast. They should be filing suits now in all affected states to insure that victims of the RNC are allowed to vote.

        Iraq is deja vu all over again.

        by chuco35 on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:59:04 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  It's got to start somewhere (none)
          I agree -this is widespread, practically indemic. It should be attacked everywhere. But cranking up a national investigation and a national response on this by the DNC is way too time consuming and costly.

          An individual attack as I described above could happen quickly and be effective. Coordination of such an effort, or many such efforts, wherever needed, through or with the DNC would be fine, but the point is, it's got to happen extremely soon. The DNC is running candidates and elections, not necessarily looking at every municipalities doings. Local eyes can and should pick this up. And have. I say: run with it.

          •  It's just a matter of filing 6-7 suits (none)
            involving 6-7 affected states. A good law firm should be able to do the paperwork in one day. The though problem is logistics. the DNC is best set-up to do this. And filing these suits does involve, IMHO, "running candidates and elections". Plus the publicity would be dynamite, it seems to me. But shit, I hope not but it looks like the DNC is dropping the ball here, so your idea may be all that's left for us.

            Iraq is deja vu all over again.

            by chuco35 on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:02:57 PM PDT

            [ Parent ]

    •  Walker will cave (none)
      faster than a case can be brought. The shitstorm's already flying.

      Your Blunder War is showing.

      by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 06:47:59 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Is this what they meant (4.00)
    when they said that terrorists may find a way to delay the elections?

    "How do you ask someone to be the last man to die for a mistake?" -John Kerry

    by tryptamine on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:39:37 PM PDT

  •  Walker is a snake (none)
    I live in WI and he wants to run for Gov in 06.  Let's stop him in his tracks!!!!!
    •  His gubernatorial ambitions... (none)
      may be our saving grace.  I am convinced that Blackwell's 180 (Maybe it was more like a 150) on paper stock here in Ohio is due to his desire to avoid bad publicity that could hurt his gov. run in 2006.
  •  This is all happening in your imagination (1.00)
    Come on people! There is not widespread voter fraud going on.  Look, if there were, wouldn't the DNC be issuing press releases about it?  These people are professionals in the heat of a presidential election.  You don't think they aren't paying attention do you?  

    After 2000, surely Terry Mac wouldn't sit idly by as Democrats' registrations are thrown away.  Bill Clinton wouldn't take lazy naps in Chappaqua while ballots aren't being printed in inner cities.  He was the first African-American president.  He wouldn't ignore his brothers and sisters when their rights are being denied.

    If there was voter fraud going on, Democrats would be clamoring for hearings like the Republicans did after Rathergate.  If there was voter suppression occuring, Democrats would be holding press confrences.

    Clearly there is only one answer: We are all imagining this.  I know, I know. I feel foolish too.  

    We MUST get back to the issues.  Tonight, Kerry needs to hit Bush with a KILLER sound bite about social security caps.  And I'd follow up with how Bush's NCLB plan fails to measure student learning in a holistic manner.

    •  F*cking please. (none)
      That load of horse puckey would be laughable, if this stuff wasn't so deadly serious.  
    •  Are you swinging a... (none)
      ...pocket watch? Repeat after me...there is no fraud...you are happy with the election process...Florida 2000 never happened...you are getting sleepy...when I snap my fingers go back to talking about issues...SNAP!!

      Wait a second. It's true, they're trying to screw us again!!

      I've never been very good at being hypnotized.

      George W. Bush unelected, false leader. Your days are numbered.

      by MichaelPH on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 06:01:35 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Uh (none)
      [Bill Clinton] was the first African American president

      That's a very....interesting...statement.

      :::backs away slowly from scary blog poster:::

    •  It was funny the first time (none)
      but now it's trolling.

      "The revolution starts now / When you rise above your fear / And when you tear the walls around you down" - Steve Earle

      by pHunbalanced on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 06:13:36 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I can't win! (none)
        I've been telling Kossacks for weeks that we need to shut the fuck up about "issues" and focus on election fraud.  And that's the royal "we".  That is, the party leaders, those with actual public platforms, needed to step up to the plate and start fighting fire with fire.

        I was troll-rated then.  (Granted, I often used harsh language and showed little other than contempt for the idiots running the party.  My feelings weren't hurt.)

        And surprise, surprise! There is massive cheating going on all across the country.  Shit that would make Nixon blush.

        Yes, I am making phone calls.  Yes, I am emailing.  But, you know what? I am so fucking sick of the morons who are running the party.  And frankly, I'm pretty sick of Kerry.  What does it take to get these assholes worked up?  

        p.s. To all the Kossacks who are doing yeoman's work trying to hold the last tattered shreds of our democracy together, my hat is off to you.  Don't take any of this personally.  I just wish I saw as much action and energy at the top.

  •  My quick and short letter: (none)
    To the Esteemed Mr. Walker,

    I'm sure the people of the great state of Wisconsin would want you to insure that there are enough ballots for all. I think to err on the side of having more ballots than necessary is the best course of action. Guard those ballots for security concerns if you are worried about fraud. I credit you for worrying about fraud, but I feel that your course of action is unwarranted. Please print enough ballots! Democracy shall not be trifled with! It doesn't matter the party in which a person is registered, you, Mr. Walker as Milwaukee County Executive, must make certain there are enough ballots for all.
    Thank you,
    [MichaelPH]

    George W. Bush unelected, false leader. Your days are numbered.

    by MichaelPH on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:57:48 PM PDT

  •  Thanks for putting this on the front Page! (none)
    and THANKS! for the address.
    I have a huge family in WI.  Some are even Republican Elected Officials.

    They are ALL getting an email from me as we speak.
    Rep. or Dem.  this is un-AMERICAN!

    "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

    by badgerette on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 05:58:05 PM PDT

  •  CALL NOW (none)
    CALL THIS GUY'S OFFICE NOW AND ASK WHY THEY ARE NOT PRINTING ENOUGH BALLOTS FOR VOTERS IN MILWAUKEE!  YOU WILL GET THROUGH WITHOUT PROBLEM!

    Scott Walker  
    901 N. 9th Street
    Courthouse, Room 306
    Milwaukee, WI 53233-1458  

    Office Email: CountyExec@milwcnty.com  
    Office Phone: 414-278-4211  
    Office Fax: 414-223-1375  

  •  Iowa Absentee (none)
    I was on a bus ride with someone from IA this weekend. She said she filled out the absentee form 3 times. they kept sending it back to her telling her she did it wrong even though she had followed directions.  she said that most people would have given up.

    I wonder if this is wide spread problem in Iowa?

    •  Call Now and ask to speak to Mr Walker (none)

      The woman who answers is nice.  I ALMOST got through to Mr Walker on the phone (I was put on hold while they checked)... they said that I couldn't talk to him because I was calling from Oregon... so make those calls now!

      Scott Walker  
      901 N. 9th Street
      Courthouse, Room 306
      Milwaukee, WI 53233-1458  

      Office Email: CountyExec@milwcnty.com  
      Office Phone: 414-278-4211  
      Office Fax: 414-223-1375  

    •  Problem not Widespread (none)
      I live in Iowa and work for a 527 (I'll let you figure out which one), and while there are periodic problems with people moving, or filling out the form incorrectly, for the most part everything is going extremely smoothly.  I, for example, have already voted absentee.
  •  Not Enough Ballots Will Be A Widespread Problem (4.00)
    The problem you guys have been talking about in Madison is going to be a huge problem all over the country-at least anywhere that Repbugs control the number of ballots.  If my memory is correct, there was a problem with this in St. Louis in 2000.  If my memory is correct, a state judge required the polling places to remain open after the deadline, in large part, because there were not enough ballots and a federal judge-one assumes a Republican-ordered the polling places to close.  

    With a huge increase in registration-to the Democrats advantage-and an equally large increase in Republican efforts to suppress voting, I can almost guarantee that there will be many many primarily inner city areas that mysteriously run out of ballots.

  •  I can't win! (none)
    [reposted from a hidden troll-rated thread]

    I've been telling Kossacks for weeks that we need to shut the fuck up about "issues" and focus on election fraud.  And by "we" I really meant that the party leaders and officials, those with actual public platforms, needed to step up to the plate and start fighting fire with fire.

    I was troll-rated then.  (Granted, I often used harsh language and showed little other than contempt for the idiots running the party.  My feelings weren't hurt.)

    And surprise, surprise! There is massive cheating going on all across the country.  Shit that would make Nixon blush.  Fucking SHREDDING registrations.  Nixon wouldn't need to break in to Watergate today.  Terry Mac would meet G. Gordon Liddy to unlock the office doors.

    Yes, I am making phone calls.  Yes, I am emailing.  But, you know what? I am so fucking sick of the morons who are running the party.  And frankly, I'm pretty sick of Kerry.  What does it take to get these assholes worked up?

    p.s. To all the Kossacks who are doing yeoman's work trying to hold the last tattered shreds of our democracy together, my hat is off to you.  Don't take any of this personally.  I just wish I saw as much action and energy at the top.

    •  Oh wait! (none)
      I forgot.  They're busy paying attention to the issues.
    •  This is OUR JOB! (none)
      Checking on quantities of ballots printed in your municipality is your job as a citizen. Irregardless of which candidate you support, keeping an eye on the performance is not something a national campaign should have to worry about.

      Co-ordinating this is exactly what the Blogosphere is good at collecting information that's not centrally located, and giving it to those who can use it. if necessary, any local resident has standing to complain or sue. The State Party should have a database of local Attorneys.

      Your Blunder War is showing.

      by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:10:36 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  In a situation like this... (none)
    ...don't we need to know how many people voted in Milwaukee County in 2002 or 2000, and then compare that to the number of ballots printed for this election?  Because if the number is smaller this year, then the problem is much more serious than it seems...
    •  New message to swing-staters (none)
      Vote early. Vote early.
    •  The number of ballots printed (none)
      according to Walker's scheme, would be less than were printed in 2000, but more than were used in 2000.

      There has been some population growth in the county, but not in the city. However, turnout is expectedto increase dramatically. See, it's not just Kerry v. Bush or Feingold v. Michels that's driving things up here, but the local race for US HOuse. The growing African American community is very excited about the chance to elect Wisconsin's first ever black congressperson. Turnout in some 80-90 wards is expected to shatter all previous records. Wards that had maybe 500 votes in 2000 are expected to soar up to 1100-1400 votes. That would be too close for comfort (due to error by new, inexperienced voters) under Wlaker's scheme for 1600 ballots per ward.

      "The revolution starts now / When you rise above your fear / And when you tear the walls around you down" - Steve Earle

      by pHunbalanced on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:01:41 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Milwaukee call-in radio WTMJ (none)

    Your Blunder War is showing.

    by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 06:52:53 PM PDT

  •  CNN has a story now (none)
    Lou Dobbs is doing a series called "Democracy At Risk."  The "teaser" clip they showed was of a young man complaining about registration forms being ripped up.

    "Why do they call it the World Series if it's always played in the Bronx?"

    by randym77 on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:03:11 PM PDT

  •  There are less than 938,000 people in Milw Co (none)
    There is certainly a small risk of running out of ballots, but let's not get too weird here. There are fewer _people_ in Milwaukee County than the number of ballots that the City of Milwaukee asked to have printed. That is foolish and it could lead to problems.

    Is Walker being too cautious? Probably, but let's have a sense of perspective. If 800,000 people vote in Milwaukee County, we will have had a serious problem with fraud. If we have 938,000 vote, it will be an indefensible crime.

    George Bush is suffering chronic mendacity syndrome.

    by freelunch on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:13:03 PM PDT

    •  Not all Milwaukee ballots are the same. (none)
      each Assembly District needs its own. then there's the matter of guaranteeing that no polling place runs out while another is sitting on a bunch.

      Your Blunder War is showing.

      by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:27:29 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Three points (none)
      One's a quibble, the other two are serious.

      #1 (the quibble) ... 2002 estimates put the county population over 938,000. Of course county population is irrelevant here.

      #2 Walker doesn't want 938,000 - he wants 679,000.

      #3 Many of the people voting will be new voters, more likely to spoil their ballots. Additionally, GOPers are likely to engage in dirty tricks again, intentionally spoiling ballots. There should be at least 67% more ballots than there are expected voters.

      So, that said, 938,000 ballots is a bit excessive, but 679,000 is likely inadequate ... at the very least too close for comfort. Walker and Barret are both smart men and know what they are doing. Walker wants to suppress the vote in the city while Barrett knows full well that 1600 ballots per ward could lead to shortages in some areas.

      "The revolution starts now / When you rise above your fear / And when you tear the walls around you down" - Steve Earle

      by pHunbalanced on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:31:03 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Olbermann On The Case (none)
    MSNBC's Countdown just teased into a break, it's #4 story about 'trashed ballots', etc. Waiting...

    BINGO!!! We have cable news uplink! Props' Kos!!!

  •  Update from AP (none)
    AP
    Barrett said the city could pay to print additional ballots, as it did when it spent $42,000 in the September primary to ensure it had enough. But he conceded the city overestimated in that election.

    Walker said he is worried about the possibility of voter fraud with too many ballots floating around.

    "We don't want to be known on a national basis for anything to do with elections," he said, referring to the media attention on Florida after the botched 2000 presidential election.

    They also have comments from election officials for several other Wisconsin Counties. Only Brown County (Green Bay) suggests further query.

    Your Blunder War is showing.

    by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:25:12 PM PDT

  •  C'mon, Johns.... let's get after it (none)
    Kerry said he would have legal teams around the country ensuring the right to vote.  

    The KERRY campaign NEEDS TO GET ITS ASS IN GEAR.

    This needs a rapid legal response in every single place where it is occurring.  So far I don't see this happening.

    But I sure hope it is happening behind the scenes.    

    There are too many lawyers supporting the Dems this year to sit back and watch this shit happen without a response.

    Someone PLEASE tell me our side is pursuing aggressive legal action on these fronts.  

  •  contact info for Scott Walker . . (none)
    to tell him that enough is enough. link to diary with contact info: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/13/19036/625

    http://www.viewfromtheleft.blogspot.com

    by TexasDemocrat06 on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 07:57:26 PM PDT

  •  Calling Wisconsin Kossians (none)
    you're hereby invited to my 50th Birthday Party this Sunday, Oct. 17th 3 til? on Madison's East Side.

    email:  bmasel at tds dot net for directions

    Your Blunder War is showing.

    by ben masel on Wed Oct 13, 2004 at 08:36:29 PM PDT

  •  Here's (none)
    my letter to Scott Walker:

    <Dear Mr. Walker:<p> I am extremely disappointed to hear that you, as Milwaukee County Executive and co-chair of the Bush Campaign in Wisconsin, have decided to print only 629,000 ballots for Milwaukee County.  You are undoubtedly aware that this number of ballots is less than the total number of ballots cast in the 2002 gubernatorial campaign, let alone the total number of ballots cast in the 2000 presidential campaign.  Your decision is blatantly political and designed to suppress voter turnout in Milwaukee County.

    Your action has not gone unnoticed and is now circulating through the Internet blogs, including DailyKos.    

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/13/154857/7  
    Unless you relent and agree to print a fair amount of ballots for Milwaukee County, we will launch a campaign against you that will make Katharine Harris look like Glinda the Good Witch of the North in comparison.  Worse, we will do whatever we can to see that Mark Green gets the Republican nomination for governor in 2006.

    Sincerely,

    XXXXXXXXX>

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