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Here's a sampling of what we face nationwide.

In West Virginia -- it was bad enough the first time.

In a letter, Berkeley County clerk John Smalls cites calls from a cell phone were made to Eastern Panhandle democrats telling them that they were not registered to vote. The letter also said the calls informed democrats in some cases they wouldn`t be able to vote on Election Day [...]

It`s considered an improper act because when upset citizens called the voter registration office to make sure they were registered to vote, indeed they were. So, who made these misleading calls? The Berkeley County Clerk`s Office traced the number voters gave as the source back to the Eastern Panhandle Republican Headquarters.

Bad enough the first time, as I said. Problem is, despite their "slap on the wrist" (or because of it), local Republicans are still up to the same dirty tricks. From an email statement today:
Democratic leaders in one of the nation's most hotly-contested battleground states are  receiving reports of voter suppression activities that can be traced back to the Republican Party. The suppression activities have continued despite warnings from officials in Berkeley and Jefferson Counties.
Hopefully these WV Republicans face the same fate as those in Ohio who tried to challenge 35,000 new voters for no reason other than disenfranchisement. After hundreds of hearings found zero illegal registrations, the entire lot of challenges was thrown out and the Republican masterminds now face criminal charges.

Speaking of Ohio, I got this from a Toledo volunteer:

I worked all day yesterday at the largest Toledo area Kerry GOTV phone bank at Gallon and Takacs law offices, 3516 Granite, Sylvania. Out of the 8 phone banks that we had here in the Toledo area yesterday, ours produced one third of all of the contacts made.

Both the local phone company and our phone systems provider have confirmed to us that phone relay point into the building was purposely severed. Many volunteers were rerouted to other locations and several also had to rely on cell phones when we found our lines down this morning. We thought it was a coincidence until the phone company verified to us that the lines were intentionally cut.

More Republican dirty tactics.

And more Ohio, check out this letter supposedly sent from the Lake County (Painesville) Board of Election to newly registered Democrats:

Of course, the letter is not from the Board of Election, and it's obviously all bullshit. (From Law Geek.)

In Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the GOP wants to take a page from the Ohio playbook.

Citing a new list of more than 37,000 questionable addresses, the state Republican Party demanded Saturday that Milwaukee city officials require identification from all of those voters Tuesday.

If the city doesn't, the party says it is prepared to have volunteers challenge each individual - including thousands who might be missing an apartment number on their registration - at the polls.

In Ohio, the "questionable addresses" were those were GOP-sent registered mail wasn't accepted. Wherever the WI GOP's list comes from, it's definitely not reality.
City Attorney Grant Langley labeled the GOP request "outrageous."

"We have already uncovered hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of addresses on their (original list) that do exist," said Langley, who holds a non-partisan office. "Why should I take their word for the fact this new list is good? I'm out of the politics on this, but this is purely political."

Still in Wisconsin, let's head to the ultra-liberal University of Wisconsin -- Madison, which should be a huge source of Kerry votes on Tuesday.
UW-Madison students in six residence halls received misleading information this week about how to vote, triggering allegations of dirty tricks.

The Dave Magnum for Congress campaign and the College Republicans took responsibility and apologized for the mailing Friday evening, insisting it was an honest error.

But a progressive group called it a deliberate attempt to confuse student voters. And University of Wisconsin-Madison Chancellor John Wiley, saying he was concerned that students might not know where to vote, had e-mails sent to all students Friday afternoon containing correct information.

The Campus Republican flyer told students they could vote at the polling location of their choice. Obviously, voters must vote in their assigned polling location.

The College Republicans, of course, are mired in a scandal of their own -- bilking innocent seniors of more than $6 million.

The College Republican National Committee has raised $6.3 million this year through an aggressive and misleading fund-raising campaign that collected money from senior citizens who thought they were giving to the election efforts of President Bush and other top Republicans.

Many of the top donors were in their 80s and 90s. The donors wrote checks -- sometimes hundreds and, in at least one case, totaling more than $100,000 -- to groups with official sounding-names such as "Republican Headquarters 2004," "Republican Elections Committee" and the "National Republican Campaign Fund." [...]

Some of the elderly donors, meanwhile, wound up bouncing checks and emptying their bank accounts.

"I don't have any more money," said Cecilia Barbier, a 90-year-old retired church council worker in New York City. "I'm stopping giving to everybody. That was all my savings that they got."

Barbier said she "wised up." But not before she made more than 300 donations totaling nearly $100,000 this year, the group's fund-raising records show.

Makes you glad to be a Democrat, huh? We all knew College Republicans were slime. Now we have hard evidence. I hope to see some of those scum carted off to jail. But I digress, since cheating the elderly of their life savings isn't really voter fraud or supression.

Let's wrap up in Alabama, where Democratic areas have been infested with this flyer:

Update: Here's another one -- a fake letter, supposedly from the NAACP, threatening South Carolina blacks with arrest if they vote with outstanding parking tickets, or if they haven't submitted a credit check, provide two forms of photo identification, a Social Security card, a voter registration card and a handwriting sample.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:21 PM PST.

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  •  See you at the Poles? (3.33)
    My god, I forgot about the Poles!

    George W. Bush: All flightsuit, no flightplan

    by mapantsula on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:22:03 PM PST

  •  And Where (none)
    was our mighty liberal press asking the tough questions on these issues this morning?

    Makes me sick...

    •  just shows how dirty (none)
      the SCLM is. Its amazing that this stuff is not in the headlines
    •  They were probably too busy obtaining (none)

      as in,

      "Well, the Dems do it too, bleh bleh bleh!"  [/sniveling whine]

      I was thinking about this the other day when the CNN anchor and some smooth, well-coiffed African-American Republican operative were tag-team beating up on the head of the NAACP for a supposedly "partisan" speech the guy gave in the summer.  (The IRS have him under investigation for violating the non-partisan tax status of the NAACP; it's total bullshit:  he was critical, severly critical, of Bush, but in no way endorsed anyone specifically.)

      I don't understand.  What do the SCLM think is in it for them?  Are they all on Dubya's charity list?  Do they think they need to back the "winner" for favorable treatment (lobster rolls on Air Force One)?  Or are they just afraid of nasty freeper emails?

      "Fair and Balanced" my ass.  I've got two more words for them:  "CBC" and "BBC."  Maybe if the state puts up the money for a cable news network, that network won't feel the pressure to feed the media's insatiable appetite for content-free news coverage.  The zeal with which the BBC went after Tony Blair in the wake of the Nigergate scandal should demonstrate that such networks in no way have to be in the pocket of the administration they serve.

      Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of nonthought. -- Milan Kundera

      by Dale on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:34:37 PM PST

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      •  the irony (none)
        is a little tough to get around.

        Government funded news orgs like the BBC play it pretty straight and go after the power base.

        Privately funded news orgs in the States are  brown nosers to the right.

        Follow the money, they say.  

    •  Are you kidding? (none)
      I haven't even heard a word about this illegal money scam on elderly voters. That is truly rotten. Imagine they aren't above scamming their own kind! I hope these crooks get something beside a tap on the wrist. In fact I hope they get life in prison. Fat chance, tho'.
  •  Bastards (none)
    Man I would love to give these people a royal beat down.
  •  Is THIS the "democracy" and (3.33)
    "freedom" that President Bush is ALWAYS ranting about "exporting" to the middle east ???


  •  Violence? (none)
    The big question is whether the Republicans will escalate from this to outright violence.

    If so then we have seen the challenge of the state monoplization of acceptable violence.

    The tolerance of violence by non-state militias is generally considered to be one of the firt signs of fascism.

    In this case I suspect it might be met with riots.  I hope it doesn't come to that, but I support the rioters if it does.

    "Freedom is Everyday Low Prices" Graffiti 2003, Anonymous

    by dbratl on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:29:26 PM PST

      Pure desperation. It wont help. Even voter suppresion wont help. The 'skins have won, people are tired of Bush's idiocy. Even conservative people like me thinks he's fucked everything up in this county and that another 4 years will bring the rapture via WWIII. I think a few red states are surprisingly going to turn blue. Its game over for the Bush klan.
    •  I have no doubt at all that they will resort to (none)
      violence if Kerry wins but by a very small margin, i.e. 2000 all over again. They were violent in FL then and they will be again if they have to be to "win", i.e. take over by force.
  •  Take Digital Cameras! (3.75)
    Take a digital camera with you to vote. If someone stops you or tells you you can't vote, and you're legally registered, take his picture, his name, and what purpose he has at that polling place.

    In some states, there are laws dictating how close to the polling station campaigning can be. If you see someone illegally petitioning voters, or signs or stickers or otherwise, in this vicinity, take pictures as well.

    I hope Kos puts up a separate Open Thread on Nov. 2 specifically for polling place stories and links to images.

    •  Not Digital -- Use Film Camera (3.40)
      I'm working as a precinct checker/challenger in Michigan and we were told specifically to carry a film camera.  Digital pictures could be subject to challenges since the republicans know to well how easy it is to photoshop a picture.  Since I no longer own a film camera, I'm picking up a disposable.  Maybe I should make that two.
      •  That's preposterous (none)
        Hasn't anyone heard of scanners?  You can scan a film photo, Photoshop it, and print it out on photo paper anyway.  A "real film" camera doesn't guarantee anything, unless they're going to inspect the negatives.
        •  Think about it.. (none)
          You can provide the uncorrupted negatives as proof.  Basically, get away from digital.
          •  Not these days... (none)
            You can send in discs or actual photos to have negatives made... So negatives prove nothing.
            •  This shows you know little (none)
              about the differences in fundamental qualities of film and digital.

              Basically, to get a digital image with "equal quality" to a film image, you have to shoot at 18 megapixels. I don't think there's a commercially available handheld digital camera available to consumers that goes higher than 10--I could be wrong.

              ANYONE with a decent knowledge of film vs. digital photography can tell you immediately with only slight magnification if a photo is digitally printed or film developed. It's even easier with negatives.

              It's a fundmental difference in how the images are recorded and produced.

              With an 18 meg shot, yes, you could produce digital negatives indistiguishable from film negatives. But getting the 18 meg shot ain't gonna happen with what most of us are taking to polls. It's cake to tell any 35 mm film shot from a 6 meg digital shot--the digital shot will print looking cleaner, but can't be blown up smoothly as far, and when it's blown up, it looks different. You'd have to spend a while playing with print and digital photos and scanners and loupes, etc....but once you know, you know.

              When I was doing graphic design, I wouldn't ever try to use a digital photo someone printed and sent to me as a "hard copy photo". The quality just wasn't there. BUt if they sent me the file, it was better quality than a similar shot scanned in from film prints. Once you go from digital to print, going back causes all sorts of problems, which is one reason it's so darned easy to spot a digital print vs. a film print.

              George Bush is Nehemiah Scudder

              by jenrose on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 10:48:30 PM PST

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              •  D'oh (none)
                "The quality just wasn't there. BUt if they sent me the file, it was better quality than a similar shot scanned in from film prints. "

                Qualification: In the sizes I was using most of the time, which was small images in a print magazine. But I could do things with film shots (like blowups to 2 foot by 3 foot posters) that I could not do with even a high quality digital shot. For most of my purposes, the digital images were cleaner, because the only "interference" point from dust was the lens, but from a film camera, dust could be on the lens, the film, the paper, the projector, the scanner.... so a scanned film shot was usually less "clean" than a similar sized digitla shot, in anything less than 8 x 10. But blow it up bigger, and the film would at worst, get a little grainy, while the digital would get pixelated and jaggy. It's just not subtle. And prints are even more clear. A printed digital photo is made up of tiny dots. A film print is "continuous tone"... the resolution is fantastically tiny before you get anything resembling "pixelation" on a good film shot.

                George Bush is Nehemiah Scudder

                by jenrose on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 10:54:41 PM PST

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      •  Get the (none)
        Kodak with a flash. 24 shots, dead simple, good infinity focus. About $12. I use them at work.

        "If I pay a man enough money to buy my car, he'll buy my car." Henry Ford

        by johnmorris on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 06:51:03 PM PST

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    •  In Texas they have to let you vote. (none)
      Your vote is then held and reviewed and a judge decides whether it is counted after it is reviewed. I've been through it. I left my registration  card at home and they said they didn't have me on the rolls. I demanded to vote and this is what they told me and what I did. I don't know the rules in other states but I was lucky and honest voter overseer was there and told me what to do and helped me or they would not have let me vote.
  •  This morning (none)
    the Republican line changed from "preventing voter fraud" to "making sure that every legitimate vote counts by being counted and not offset by a fraudulent vote". Many denials of any attempt to suppress the vote. To their credit, every Democrat allowed on the air said, we want everybody to get to vote.

    "If I pay a man enough money to buy my car, he'll buy my car." Henry Ford

    by johnmorris on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:30:26 PM PST

  •  Sigh... (none)
    Do they really have to prove their stupidity?  Honestly, if democrats were to do voter fraud to this level they wouldn't do it this badly :P

    Seriously, you think they'd spell "polls" correctly.  Agh.  I've always wondered if these efforts were headed by 14-year-olds with spelling problems.

  •  So when will the GOP bring back... (none)
    tarring and feathering?!?!?

    We aren't anywhere close to the violent rough and tumble of the first elections of the Republic (1800-1832). Burning down the buildings of the opposition newspapers and the use of tarring and feathering political opponents were all too common then.

    However, when you begin cutting phone lines and deliberately trying to confuse the other sides voters, that's heading in a direction that we haven't seen in awhile.

    Let's hope we can prove to them the tactics aren't worth the hassle we'll throw back at them.

    Visualize Whirled Peas

    by Hoya90 on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:31:03 PM PST

    •  What Really Worries Me (3.00)
      Is that the next step might include pulling fire alarms, and when that fails to have the intended effect, actually setting some small fires that require building evacuation and fire department response.  And that small fire could then accidentally become a significant one.

      Really, I don't think it's much of a stretch to suppose that people who cut phone lines wouldn't do something like that.

      The GOP has been a borderline fascist party for a while.  I think the line has finally be crossed.

      Canis lupis packs
      And herds of chelonians
      Spell doom for Dim Son

      by JJB on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:38:06 PM PST

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  •  So, I'm assuming (none)
    our legions of lawyers are working on this? That MoveOn and the DNC are paying for radio and TV ads in these areas providing correct information? Sending out flyers? Amassing all the volunteers that no longer have anything to do in Oregon because most ballots have already been mailed in to make phone calls to people who might be getting false information?

    I must not think bad thoughts. --John Doe

    by Joan McCarter on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:31:12 PM PST

    •  Yes in Ohio (none)
      I've received several phone calls and mailings with the correct voting information.  In fact, MoveOn PAC called and asked us to check in with its volunteers at the polling place once we've voted so they would know to stop calling us Tuesday.
      •  Same in Minnesota (none)
        I got a call two days ago making sure that I was registered to vote and new when/how to do it. I don't remember what org it was from, though.

        Visit the PagodaBlog for hackneyed totally original political and philosophic commentary.

        by Juppon Gatana on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:19:40 PM PST

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      •  Good to hear (none)
        Disenfranchisement really pisses me off. I heard an essayist on NPR last week talking about how the Republicans are the party of the little guy (that he could say this with no irony in his voice just blew me away). My response, in a letter to Morning Edition, was why if the Republicans are so concerned with looking out for the litty guy, they weren't willing to have that person's vote count.

        I must not think bad thoughts. --John Doe

        by Joan McCarter on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 06:47:41 PM PST

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      •  Berkeley County (none)
        DCDemocrat, Berkeley County's Precinct Captain 16, was all over the effort by the local Republicans. What Kos leaves out about the Berkeley County effort is John Small, who gave the slap on the wrist to the Republicans, is a Republican.
        You can read here how the Republicans' effort may have backfired on them.
      •  We've been getting visits (none)
        for the past two weeks. We get to vote early in Colorado, and I've had several personal visits and multiple phone calls letting us know where and when we can vote. Lots of involvement in the GOTV drive here.

        All four members of my household voted last week, BTW.

  •  In Milwaukee 2 Nazis with Swastikas and Kerry sign (3.50)
    Late yesterday I was passing out Kerry stickers in front of a supermarket.  Two African American women informed me that near another supermarket they had personally seen 2 men, dressed as Nazis, complete with Swastikas, holding Kerry signs.

    Although they told me the men looked "silly" and "people were laughing at them," what they saw must have persuaded them to go to another supermarket as well as to inform me, since they must have thought I was someone official, given my self-appointed role of passing out stickers.

    These women were certain this had been a Republican "trick" but nevertheless it is very disturbing and indicative of how desperate the other side is, if they have to resort to such tactics.

    I am proud to be a Democrat and ashamed that the Republicans are showing such a despicable image of the United States to the rest of the world.

  •  you can't eat enough to vomit enough (none)
    The bogus BoE letter is the worst.  Feh.
  •  Holy Toledo. (none)
    I was making calls from the phone bank at Gallon & Takacs yesterdayin Toledo. When we left last night, the front door handle was broken and now I think it was done intentionally.

    That place was buzzing yesterday. I made outgoing calls from 1pm to just before 9pm. There were plenty of other volunteers. I just got back to Chicago today and I can't fricking believe the filthy Republican bastards cut the phone lines!

  •  Underreported? (none)
    I went down to the Whittier, CA Democratic club office this evening to pick up a new Kerry sign, as mine was stolen within hours of being put up a week or two ago. They casually mentioned that their windows had been broken, a door window pierced by a pellet gun from (maybe) someone driving by, vandalism on their signs and windows, and notes and writings of an unknown (disagreeable) nature left in their mail slot. They noted that people sometimes come in to debate them, but said that was alright by them -- they welcomed a good debate, just not vandalism or anonymous notes.

    I know there've been reports of things like this all over the country, perpetrated on both Democratic and Republican establishments, but I couldn't find a note of it in any local paper or the internet. Is this sorta stuff going underreported?

  •  United Republic of Banana-land (none)
    I know we're all focused on the next 48 hours, but Holy Cheese and Rice! This crap, and we're the world's oldest constitutional democracy?!!

    I'm embarrassed--and horrified--at the same time.

    But no more after this Tuesday . . . .


  •  We Need To Pass Out T-Shirts (4.00)
  •  If you listen (none)
    To the Republican line, the only people that are guilty are Democrats.  I try to watch a variety of news sources, and Fox only seems to report on the allegations against Democrats.  Unfortunately, the press as a whole seems to have skipped this issue entirely.

    McCauliff and Gillespie were guests on This Week this morning.  McCauliff handed Gillespie a copy of the letter from ohio ON THE AIR.  I was very pleased.

    If I didn't read and think for myself, I could be a Republican

    by bonddad on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:36:43 PM PST

    •  election day coverage (none)
      although, according to the wash post daily ap wire free crap paper [express], the networks are structuring their coverage tomorrow around seeking out reports of voter intimidation at the polls.

      nbc has set up a hotline to report voting problems -- 866-myvote1 -- as well as providing numbers to call in each state: [the graphic here is, of course, broken, but may be up later; news stories at the bottom of the page follow suppression around the country]

  •  Prosecute, prosecute, prosecute (4.00)
    After the elections, these people have to be prosecuted.  With a felony on their record, we can ensure they will tell their cronies that they shouldn't do this 2 years from now.  We can't take this shit.  The best way is to enforce the laws.  I hope the US attorneys do their job.  We have to make sure these people are prosecuted.
    •  Amen (none)
      I bet they think this shit is cute.  Let them have some time in jail to think about how cute it is.  
      •  Agree 100% (none)
        And Eliot Spitzer is just the sort of focused SOB to do it as (hopefully) the next Attorney General.

        "If English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for us." - former Texas Governor Miriam Ferguson, on barring foreign language teaching

        by JT88 on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 07:11:31 PM PST

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        •  Naw (none)
          Give me someone with an itch on their shoulder.  Someone who wants to take these guys down and parade them before the masses on their way to the guillotine.  

          Someone like ... Mary Frances Berry!!!!!!  Wait does she have a J.D.  Just checked - SHE DOES!  From the University of Michigan nonetheless!!!!  And she has a record of handling large federal government bureaucracies!!  She was the Assistant Secretary for Education in the Department of Health, Education and Welfare during Carter's administration, so basically she was the Secretary of Education.

          OH YEA!  


          "If they don't do their duty by the Democratic Party, they are the most ungrateful people in the world!" -Harry Truman

          by DWCG on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 10:27:56 PM PST

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  •  Boy... (3.72)
    I hate these fuckin' people.
    •  Troll Rating from Kozmo (4.00)
      Why was this troll-rated?  JohnnyAppleseed is expressing his well-justified outrage.  I hate these people too.  I and thousands of other volunteers are busting our asses to get people to the polls.  Republicans aren't willing to do that kind of hard work though, so they resort to dirty, immoral, illegal tricks.  I am outraged and I understand Johnny's outrage too.  Somebody should troll-rate your ass, Kozmo.
      •  Thanks (4.00)
        I appreciate the support. Maybe the troll rater didn't like the language. I forgive him as long as he is in this thing to help us defeat these monsters.

        The funny thing is that Republicans think that they have cornered the market on patriotism, yet they want to do the most un-patriotic thing of all which is to disenfranchise voters.

        We are going to kick the chief disenfranchiser out of office on Tuesday, and we are going to continue our assault on these people until they can't even elect someone to dog catcher.

        We are going to have a GOTV campaign that lasts in perpetuity.

    •  I gave a 4 to counter the troll rating. (none)

      When your opponent is drowning, throw the son of a bitch an anvil. - James Carville

      by sgilman on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:42:57 PM PST

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  •  Filthy. Fucking. Bastards. (none)
    I note with some optimism that the Toledo phone bank was in a law office.  Presumably, those fine folks won't let this slip through the cracks.

    A proud member of the reality-based community!

    by roxtar on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:42:04 PM PST

  •  Suggested first bill for President Kerry (none)
    New penalties for pulling stunts like this.

    MANDATORY sentence: 20 years plus a felony on your record, plus a HUGE fine.

    And set aside money in the budget for a new task force to prosecute the offenders.

  •  REPORT Voter Fraud HERE (4.00)
    Michael Moore has set up a form to report Republican election fraud:

  •  This is outrageous. (none)

    "Today there is no substantial challenge to American ideals. The question is this: Where, with all our wealth and capabilities, do we lead mankind?" Gen. Clark

    by theprogressivemiddle on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:47:19 PM PST

  •  And where is the corporate media (none)
    on these issues?

    Ugh. This is so disgusting.

    No one, NO ONE, has asked BC04 why the BC04 New England Chair Jim Tobin was around for months after they knew that Tobin was involved in the phone jamming scandal up in New Hampshire. (if you want info on this, search Josh Marshall's TPM).

  •  another instance? (none)
    Here in Providence, RI, phones went down at a phonebank calling Florida and New Hampshire.  I didn't suspect anything until I read about the Toledo incident, but now I wonder.
  •  Why would Hispanics try to vote fraudulently? (none)
    I'm sure these people will be challenged in Milwaukee, but think about it:

    If someone is not a citizen, if they are there illegally, then they are going to keep their head down and not seek trouble!

    The mere fact that they are able to get along without much english is not evidence that they are trying to vote fraudulently.

    I'll be a pollwatcher on Tuesday and I'm concerned about the rights of Hispanics to vote being challenged and interfered with.  

    Read below for my experience this morning of trying to get to know the neighborhood where I'll be doing pollwatching on Tuesday:


    Well, I had to come home and write this up, after I stopped at a hispanic bakery and got 2 pastries to console myself.  Having eaten them and seen the latest poll numbers, I feel better.

    Today I did a dry run of my Tuesday am route - first downtown (to pick up the 2-way radio to communicate with my "team leader") and then over to the park, wherein lies the community center with 2 polling wards I'll keep an eye on.

    I parked the van and walked down the park, across the street and over to the "Basilica," a 19th Century Polish "basilica" with at least one very fanatical adherent.  Anyway, mass was in progress and I strolled around the church and back toward the parking lot.  Took a look at the leaflets someone had left on car windshields.  They were predictably Repub slanted.  I had already decided on my own that I was not going to politick by a church out of respect.  

    I'm strolling back around the church, now in front of it.  Simply walking slowly of a Sunday morning.  Suddenly, I hear someone say - in the nastiest possible voice:  "This is a Catholic Parish!"  I looked at her quizzically and she just about poked my shoulder where resided the Kerry sticker.  Mind you, I had not made a move to in any way disturb the peace or disrupt anything.  She had to go on - telling me how Kerry wants to murder babies!  This lady was worked up - merely at the sight of a Kerry sticker!  I reasoned that there was really no point in responding to this.  But somehow felt unwelcome, there on that public sidewalk in front of a church.

    As I think back it seems to me (raised a Catholic, mind you) that I had had far more respect for the church and the worshippers and Sunday morning peace than had this lady who had just "been with the Lord."

    God help us!

    Now, think about this.  Here I am, trying to get a "feel" for the neighborhood, where I'll be a pollwatcher.  So I slowly walk back to the van and drive back to the same street, heading now in the opposite direction of the basilica.  Lots and lots of hispanic businesses are evident, including the aforementioned bakery, open on Sunday, and very warm and welcoming to me - despite wearing a Kerry sticker.  A little further on down the road, another bakery, also open, sporting Kerry window signs, at least 2 by my count.

    So here's the conclusion.  It's obvious that the hispanics are not opposed to Kerry, nor do they fear a Kerry sign would dissuade hispanic customers.  Yet, the basilica just down the street has at least one very vocal churchgoer, who clearly cannot abide Kerry, anything Kerry, or anyone wearing anything Kerry.  

    I'm picturing potential problems on election day!  I'm envisioning watching people like the nasty churchgoer berating the gentle hispanic souls doing nothing more than standing in line to vote - yet, based on my simple polling standard (Kerry signs in some hispanic stores) - likely waiting to cast a vote for Kerry.  Will this selfsame nasty person be a poll watcher, confronting the voters?  Or will she be unable to contain herself, while standing in the same line with such voters?  

    She had a bad effect on me, I can tell you!  And I hate to think about those gentle souls trying to vote.  I hope and I pray for a peaceful voting day.

    What is it about these self-righteous individuals?  Do they not think I have just as much right to walk in front of a church, yea to attend it had I chosen?  Do I not have a right to my Kerry sticker - even by a church?  I fear what we have come to.  I worry for the evident fear that must lie in the heart of such a woman, that she becomes outraged by a sticker!  

    Reminds me of the Taliban berating women without a veil or without a male escort.

    I now know a bit about this neighborhood.  I figured initially I'd been placed there due to my last name.  Now I wonder if it's because I'm a psychologist and hopefully acquainted with conflict.

    Our nation worries me.  The rage fueled by bush worries me.  But I am determined to defend the sacred right of each person to vote.  I am not there to intervene, only to report.  But I am allowed to encourage people to stay in line and cast a ballot- and that I will!

    •  Maybe she's Opus Dei (none)
      There is a small but active Opus Dei subgroup among Milwaukee Catholics, IIRC.
    •  kerry-abortion-catholics (4.00)
      Lowest abortion rates are in Belgium and Netherlands where it is legal.  Highest are in South America, predominantly catholic, where it is illegal.  The deciding factor isn't legality, it's the extent to which a society protects and supports its poor.  Making the Democratic party paradoxically the best choice for both pro-choice and anti-abortion citizens.  One-issue abortion voters should stop selling their birthright for a bowl of Republican soup.
    •  Catholics get fooled again (none)
      My parish priest made a point of encouraging everyone to vote and  saying that "pro-life" candidates can be wrong on everything else as far as he is concerned. Being Catholic apparently means that your vote belongs to whoever claims that title. My car had a voter guide on it after Mass. Fortunately there was a dumpster nearby.

      BTW, my entire Polish/Irish Catholic family, with a son just back from the Gulf and another scheduled for deployment in 2005, is voting Kerry. That includes my 6 siblings and both grandmas.

      That the Reps are laying the basis for a claim of voter fraud indicates to me that they don't think they can carry Wisconsin and will have to tie it up in the courts where they think they can steal the election again. It also sets them up for four years of "he's not my president" after Kerry wins. How sad. This is what our democracry has come to. Tommy Thompson took Wisconsin's rep. as a clean government state and trashed it beyond easy repair.

    •  Slightly similar incident this morning (none)
      I went to my car after the early morning Mass at the St. John the Evangelist parish church in Seattle to find a leaflet on my windshield advising me that Sen. Kerry was a heretic and all the rest of it--I hardly need go into details.  Apparently this has been going on for at least a few days because the pastor took a little time out before the dismissal to tell us that the parish had nothing to do with the distribution of such material.  (I know the Father fairly well and I believe him; he's not that sort.)  I didn't think at the time to look about the parking lot but I suspect that the flyers were placed only on automobiles bearing Kerry-Edwards stickers.

      I figure that whoever it was that did this must have waited until the administering of the Eucharist, when people were least likely to be leaving Mass or arriving for the next one.  I sort of remember a couple of persons leaving immediately after taking Communion, but I've done the same myself when I'm in a hurry or in a bad mood.  For all I know the persons distributing the flyers aren't Catholic; Protestant Republicans have been playing hard to detach Catholic voters from the Democratic Party.  And certainly there have been enough ultraconservative Catholics who are quite willing to be suborned.  (I can think of at least one in my personal acquaintance.)

      I wish they'd realise that they're gaining nothing.  The Bible-belt fundamentalists may be willing to tolerate Catholics for a time because they're the enemy of my enemy &c.  But I believe that I'm not far wrong in guessing that, at bottom, the fundamentalists think that Catholics are papist, idolatrous heathens, always have been, always will be.  The Catholics who have signed over their souls to the Republican Party should know that they are not making any friends.

      Invisible airwaves crackle with life, ripe antennae bristle with the energy

      by Ernest Tomlinson on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 11:22:03 PM PST

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  •  We must get rid of the electoral college system (none)
    I know this is obvious to most, but it still needs to be stated often.  The Presidential election is the only election that everyone in every state votes for the same office in, and the winner of that office is President of all the people.  As soon as a candidate wins a tiny majority in most states under the current electoral system, every other voter for that candidate is neutralized in the eyes of other states.  This is just wrong!  For example. if there are 30 million people in California and all of them vote for one candidate, 14,999,999 votes are basically negated by this ridiculous system.

    We must either go over to proportional awarding of electoral votes in each state by federal law, or better yet, do away with the damm thing altogether!  It is time, and when the Dems win this time, this cause should be a priority with the slogan, remember 2000 and what pain was brought on this nation by this unfair system. Let the people speak!!

    Political censorship is the root of all evil! It is the antithesis to a functional democracy!!

    by truthbetold on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:50:38 PM PST

  •  Source of Flyers Story? (none)
    Anyone know the source of the Jefferson County, Alabama flyers story?  I'm in that area and would love some ammo to use when alerting the local press.  

    I'd also love to find one.

  •  NPR: Excellent report on voter fraud. (none)
    The show is called "This American Life".  This week features an excellent synopsis of voter fraud committed by republicans.  Just follow the link (Play on Real Player)

    Make sure to fast forward to 20:49

    They even mention Atrios and DailyKos!!!

    •  The whole show's worth listening to... (none)
      The first story does profile a previously undecided voter who intends to vote for Bush, but who admits that his decision is basically irrational.  The final two segments (following a day of MoveOn canvassing in Columbus OH and profiling a family deeply divided along political lines) are similarly worth listening to.  
  •  poetic justice (none)
    to prosecute some of these fuckers under the Patriot Act and then reform it- the cutting telephone lines would without doubt be called domestic terrorism if we did it. I have also heard from people I trust of (unoccupied) cars with anti-Bush bumperstickers being raked with gunfire- and I'm in North Cali, probably the most monumentally anti-Bush locale outside NYC. If they want a civil war there are those of us that will give it to them, but let's try to  prevent that with a massive GOTV resulting in a landslide and mandate so overwhelming that their dirty tricks will be moot. The world is waiting for us to send them off to the scrapheap of history. Let's step up.

    A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free people.

    by faugh a ballagh on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:53:07 PM PST

    •  dirty tricks (none)
      I don't think dirty tricks should ever be a moot point.  I'm furious.  Political parties and their ideologies are not part of our country's founding documents, but the right to vote is.  You play games with voting, you belong in jail or worse.  This goes to the very deepest source of power and government in the US - the vote.  Republican operatives consistently place the fundamental rules of democracy below their lust for power.  This gaming is regularly given a pass by the Coin-Op Media, show-pony Christians and even world-weary dems.  Make no mistake: this is treasonous.

      Want to restore faith in American Democracy?  Prosecute every last infraction of a single American's right to vote, whether GOP or Dem sourced.

      •  not so, actually (none)
        > Political parties and their ideologies are not part of our country's founding documents, but the right to vote is.

        No, there's no right to vote in the U.S. Constitution.  That's one
        reason to eliminate the Electoral College and replace it with
        a popular vote system.

  •  This is the dark and dangerous side (none)
    of the group that has hijacked the Christian Coalition, the Bush Administration. Politics, Texas style. This is also the kind of behavior that will turn the stomachs of the vast majority of truly good christians - who are actually the vast majority of voters, not only in the Republican Party, but in the country as a whole.

    They are imitating the TV evangalism formulae, shilling God and Country out in front of the masses, making snarky jokes and giving the finger to the poor suckers when they get offstage. And true to the formulae, they're praising the same people they are bilking of both money and freedom.

    Trouble is, the magic only works if you keep up the illusion that you are "christian" too. The more this kind of information gets out to the   general public, the more Bush and his cronies will be abandoned by their loyal and bilked base.

    Push this info, people, and keep it coming.

  •  Man sets trap, nabs would-be Kerry sign thief (none)
    We may be in store for more violence after Bush loses becuase these people are really big time sore losers. Violence completes the partial mind.

    "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you suck seed."--Curly Howard

    by JackAshe on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 04:58:07 PM PST

  •  A little irony for the people of Jefferson County: (none)
    "Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions ... too plainly prove a deliberate, systematical plan of reducing us to slavery." -Thomas Jefferson

    My troika was pursued by wolves...

    by jexter on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:01:59 PM PST

    •  no shortage of irony in that vein (none)
      Nothing new to Jefferson County, home to Alabama's biggest city, Birmingham.
      That damn flyer really jarred me. Even though Birmingham is home to one of the pre-eminent medical research facilities in the country, it continues to stoop under the memory of Bull Connor his dogs and goddamned water cannon. The targets of those cannon (and their descendants) want nothing more than to put those days behind them. But sadly there are many who would love to bring them back. These vomit-inducing throwbacks are a cancer upon America. Damn them all forever.
      •  Here, here! (none)
        I say this as a descendant of not a water cannon target but a German Shepard almost-target...which is why my parents left.  I'm sorry, but the vandalism, cutting of phone lines, etc.-- I absolutely see that as the domestic terrorist Klan tactics they are.  Some might think I'm being over the top, but I don't think so.  Really I don't.  I absolutely cannot stand these people, and before they go rot in hell, I want to see them prosecuted.

        BTW, my Mom still can't stand the sight of German Shepards to this very day.

        I think, therefore I'm damned.

        by AuntiePeachy on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 07:15:32 PM PST

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  •  Help Refuting GOP Charges Of Dem Fraud (none)
    FOX quoting Plain Dealer article about dual registrations in Florida and Ohio implying its the evil democrats. The article contains this:
    Double registrations cross party lines: About 11,000 Republicans and 9,600 Democrats are registered in both states.
    There are actually more Republicans than Democrats!!!

    Charges of democratic districts with more voters than voting age adults recorded in Census. University Of Pennsylvania explored it 2 years ago and found this:
    When researchers compared the EDS figures with data for eligible voting-age residents drawn from the 2000 U.S. Census, they determined that in the 2000 presidential election there were more registered voters than voting-age residents in Alaska and Montana and that 32 states have at least one county with more registered voters than eligible voters. This determination led them to the conclusion that registration rolls in these, and many other counties and states, are grossly inaccurate
    Those democratic bastions in Alaska and Montana!!!
    Have a diary up with links but it is sinking in the morass.

  •  GOTV vs Poll Monitoring (none)
    Okay, another question, you guys give great answers.

    What is more important on Tuesday, being inside the polls monitoring the challenges and other bullshit that is gonna go on, or being outside the polls doing GOTV work?

    •  if you have people skills, GOTV (none)
      if you have a legal background, get inside and threaten lawsuits/criminal charges against anyone that tries stupid shit
    •  GOTV IS CRUCIAL NOW! (none)
      It's my understanding that there are plenty of poll monitors.  But unless voters are coming, we have little to monitor.

      Keep those voters coming!  Urge everyone to stay in line and vote no matter what.  Standing in line is a vote for democracy.  Proudly wait to vote.  Long lines, while a nuisance to a voter, drive the other side nuts!

      Once they get to us, we'll do our best to make sure they stay and vote!

  •  When the election is over ... (4.00)
    ...whoever wins - I'm even more convinced today than I was a week ago that it will be Kerry - we need to go after these &&@ers in multifanged attack mode.

    Legal action, of course, as others have said. But also push hard to ensure that local media outlets in all these places write or broadcast the stories being recorded here at Daily Kos (as well all the others we haven't yet seen). And also push hard to make sure these media stay on the story right up until there is resolution.

    Every time a newspaper or local station - Sinclair group or otherwise - tries to present the idea that somebody registering Democratic under the name of Micky Mouse is equal to the severing of a phone line, we need to inundate the letters page or broadcast station's e-mail and call it bullshit. Every time. Make 'em know we're watching. Kosopolitans in or near those communities can keep us up-to-date.

    These *^#%$&#@s think they can get away with this because they have gotten away with it in the past. Never again.

    Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy.

    by Meteor Blades on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:08:18 PM PST

    •  Force the media to do their patriotic duty (none)
      Breaking up media conglomerates has to be a long term goal if we are going to take back our government.  But in the short term, Meteor nails it when he says "Make 'em know we're watching."  Our response to Sinclair was awsome in both speed and power.  Let's get ready to do the same thing to any media outlet that suggests:
      • Dirty tricks by both sides balance out;
      • It's a small unorganized group of bad apples that's responsible;
      • All's fair in love and politics;
      • This kind of thing doesn't really have much of an impact;
      • It's sort of amusing;
      • It's impossible to stop, so why try;
      • It's an American tradition.

      This shit is so un-American it makes me feel like my hair is on fire.  So let's light a fire under the collective asses of OUR free press.

      And since I'm on a bit of a Jefferson kick (one of our original Big Dogs), here's this:

      In 1799, Thomas Jefferson wrote the following to friend and former student, Archibald Stuart:

      "Our citizens may be deceived for awhile, and have been deceived; but as long as the presses can be protected, we may trust to them for light."

      My troika was pursued by wolves...

      by jexter on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:48:56 PM PST

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    •  It's important to set a precedent (none)
      The media is expecting a few GOP plums to be delivered before inauguration regardless of who wins. They sold something they don't even own by not VOLUNTARILY maintaining high standards on war reporting, and now election reporting.

      We have to stop any whiff of Clinton-era witchhunts and beltway media frivolity. We have to make it crystal clear that GOP thuggery will not be rewarded (as it was in the Reagan era and beyond.)

      CNN is no better than Fox or Sinclair. They need to be hit in their licenses and stock. Churches with political ambitions should have their tax exempt status revoked. (Have all the free speech you want, Preacher ... just not on my dime and at the expense of my rights.) I think that covers my peeves list. :-)

      This machine fights fascism - motto on Woody Guthrie's guitar

      by Peanut on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 08:48:30 PM PST

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  •  RICO act (none)
    So when does the is the Rackateering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act take effect?

    TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 96
    Prohibited activities
    (a) It shall be unlawful for any person who has received any income derived, directly or indirectly, from a pattern of racketeering activity ... to use or invest, directly or indirectly, any part of such income, or the proceeds of such income, in acquisition of any interest in, or the establishment or operation of, any enterprise which is engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce.

    § 1961. Definitions   
    "Rackateering activity" means:
    any act which is indictable under any of the following provisions of title 18, United States Code: Section 201 (relating to bribery), ... section 1028 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents), section 1029 (relating to fraud and related activity in connection with access devices), ... section 1341 (relating to mail fraud), section 1343 (relating to wire fraud), ... section 1503 (relating to obstruction of justice), section 1510 (relating to obstruction of criminal investigations), section 1511 (relating to ... section 1512 (relating to tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant), ... section 1546 (relating to fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents), ...

  •  NPR Report (none)
    Heard an NPR report this evening with devastating commentary on Republican dirty tricks and voter suppression.

    Well documented story naming many Repubs who are facing indictment or have been indicted already.

    Can someone locate a transcript?

    From the lower, left quadrant of the political compass (, DrKen

    by DrKen on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:21:48 PM PST

  •  S. Dakota. (none)
    Republicans are already recycling old rumors from 2002 to try to suppress the Native American vote.  A lawyer from Virginia claims that the Daschle campaign is paying voters $10 plus a free meal at the casino, and that they're paying people to drive other reservation residents to vote by the voter.  There are also claims of at least five people voting twice.  These would be interesting claims if they weren't already used and found false in 2002 against the Johnson campaign.  I wish I could find links, but I'm not even sure these allegatiosn have hit the news yet - they're just what I heard while out and about this weekend.  
  •  make sure local press is alerted (none)
    Anyone who is in the local area of any of these criminal activities should notify the local press. It is still early enough to have coverage of this. Call local TV stations and send letters to the editor.This will publicize these outrages and also inform people who have misinformation.

    Have you made phone calls today at GOTV

    by marysk on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:27:27 PM PST

  •  Challenge the President's vote! (none)
    This stinks all around, coming from the Leader by Lawsuit. He couldn't pass the test he's imposing on others, and now he's trying to shred their rights even further.

    White House argues to deny voting-rights lawsuits to public
    LA Times, David G. Savage and Richard B. Schmitt


    [quote] Bush administration lawyers argued in three closely contested states last week that only the Justice Department, and not voters themselves, may sue to enforce the voting rights set out in the Help America Vote Act, which was passed in the aftermath of the disputed 2000 election. Veteran voting-rights lawyers expressed surprise at the government's action, saying that closing the courthouse door to aspiring voters would reverse decades of precedent. [...]

    in legal briefs filed in connection with cases in Ohio, Michigan and Florida, the administration's lawyers said the new law gives Attorney General John Ashcroft the exclusive power to bring lawsuits to enforce its provisions. These include a requirement that states provide ``uniform and non-discriminatory'' voting systems. They also must give provisional ballots to those who say they have registered but whose names do not appear on the rolls.

    ``Congress clearly did not intend to create a right enforceable'' in court by individual voters, the Justice Department briefs said. [/quote]

    Democracy Now: Bush Administration Attempts To Overturn Decades of Legal Precedence & Block Voting Rights Lawsuits From Voters


    [quote] In legal briefs filed in Ohio, Michigan and Flordia, the Bush administration is arguing that only the Justice Department, and not voters themselves, may sue to enforce the voting rights set out in the Help America Vote Act which was passed after the 2000 election. [/quote]

    Democracy Now interview: Steve Mulroy, former Justice Department voting rights litigator. He now teaches law at the University of Memphis. 04/10/29 Transcript at link

    PLEASE, any NAACP, voters rights groups or those more knowledgeable than myself on voters' rights issues -- that would be plenty of you :-) -- CONTEST THE PRESIDENT'S ELIGIBILITY AS A VOTER ON ELECTION DAY. At the very least, report him as a potentially fraudulent voter to bogus GOP "fraud squads" and make it a matter of public record before election day.

    I don't mean this as partisan harassment. I'd be against any candidate benefitting from voter suppression. GWB's military records released as an eleventh hour news dump, combined with new reports showing that what he claimed as "volunteer work" at the PULL drug rehab was mandated service cast doubt that he honestly filled out the voter registration he would have to submit to vote in Crawford, Texas. (Not sure whether he'd have a new reg for DC.)

    I'm against all frivolous challenges to voters. It's just plain wrong that GWB should benefit from what the GOP is maliciously imposing on others in a national strategy of voter suppressi -- when he couldn't pass the test himself! He's refused to answer questions about past cocaine use and has dodged signing jury duty and other forms that contain similar requirements to declare unresolved criminal penalties. And now his WH lawyers are trying to innoculate him from penalty?

    No, unh unh -- maybe it worked in 2000 but not this time. (I'm researching this further and sending it to voters' rights groups and activists to see if someone can pose a strong challenge. Please email me at or post if you have suggestions.)

    This machine fights fascism - motto on Woody Guthrie's guitar

    by Peanut on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 05:38:56 PM PST

    •  Man (none)
      Honestly, you've got to wonder where the fucking outrage from our media is.

      "If they don't do their duty by the Democratic Party, they are the most ungrateful people in the world!" -Harry Truman

      by DWCG on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 10:54:36 PM PST

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  •  The Poles? (none)
    What's that, a strip club?
  •  I miss it when... (4.00)
    they would just wear the white sheets and pillow cases on their heads, and burn crosses, and fire bomb homes and churches.  At least they were proud to stand on principle then!!!  Where is the pride?  Where are the strong democratic values? Where are David Duke and George Wallace when you need them most?  They wouldn't hide behind anonymous mailings.  They'd show up with police in riot gear with attack dogs and fire hoses.  Now those were the days of good ole voter suppression! What has become of this country, when a people and party of power can't even suppress the vote openly! The shame of it all!
  •  Is this really restricted to republicans? (none)
    If a democratic organization were doing this, would I hear about it here?
    •  maybe, maybe not (none)
      but you would hear about it WITH EVIDENCE other places, instead of vague aspersions. plus, the dems couldnt do a lot of this crap even if we wanted to. too much of it requires that the victims lack faith in the legal system or lack the time and or money to fight it.
    •  Yes. (none)
      This has been discussed time and time again on dKos.  Most Democrats do not support voter suppression of any size, shape, manner or form.  Most of us on this board would rather lose an election than win it dishonestly and have to try to govern from a position of questioned legitimacy.

      Proud Member, Controversial Daily Kos Extremist Group

      by DC Pol Sci on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 06:28:19 PM PST

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    •  Yes, it is restricted to Republicans (none)
      a) It's the very fact that Republican Party has become home for these sorts
         of people that has led to the sorts of policies we so want to end.

      b) Democrats generally benefit from voter turnout, so this sort of thing
         isn't in their interest.

      c) Your second question is a bit offensive; do you actually have any evidence
         of Dems doing this?  If so, report it here -- many people on this board
         have taken strong stands against unethical behavior from our side.

  •  All I can say is, (none)
    you BASTARDS.

    Anyone who works to keep legitimate people from voting, no matter who they may go vote for, is a first-class scumbag bottom-sucking bastard.

    Sorry for the language, but when I read about crap like this it makes me want to scream.

    Not everyone is able to get the real information, not everyone has what we do -- a connection to a community who will alert us to fraudulent efforts.

    At least there are hundreds of thousands of Dem boots on the ground this year, and I can only hope that we are able to minimize the damage that has clearly been intended by the fascist wannabes who are currently in power.

    As an aside, tonight's group here in South Cleveland -- there were over 200 people prepping door-hangers for distribution tomorrow night and on election day.  They kept coming in to help.  At least half if not more were folks who came in on buses from DC.  I am continuously amazed at how many people are really coming together to (re)defeat Bush.  If he wins, it will only be by crook or by crook.

  •  Now calm down everybody (4.00)
    Look, these are the death throes of a party that never dreamed it could manage to steal all three branches of government, and is now being brought back to reality but the unstoppable force of common sense.

    The critical thing here is to report, investigate, and out these miscreants, naming names.  A name and a photo in the paper of each individual caught for voter intimidation, fraud, and the like, will all but prevent this sort of thing ever happening again.

    But I'm not seeing names.  I'm seeing "them" and "organizations" and the like.  I want names.  

    Why? Because after the collapse of the Republican Party, these people are going to go join something else.  And we don't know what else that is...and the organizations will all have new names.  But these people won't have new names. At least not many of them.  And by outing them, creating a record in the press and in the courts, we are effectively editing out the worst of the worst of American political bullies.

    So, thank them for bringing themselves out into the open.  That way, we can rid ourselves of them...because I don't know about you, but I don't intend for this to be the last election of my American life.

    Will they have an effect?  Well, I think since we're getting so animated about it, it will only increase the outrage, and we will cancel their crimes out. (We should have ad buys about voter we?) Their efforts, unless involving systematic fraud on the inside (cf. Diebold) will not be enough to save der fuhrer.  He is gone.  But it could throw some little races that collectively form a cesspool for these freep creeps to spawn and mutate.

    So let's hear it for outrage!  But more importantly, let's document and investigate.  Those tens of thousands of lawyers need some red meat for their pro bono donation to democracy, and the good news is, we've found plenty for 'em.

    Sic'em grrlz n' boyz.

  •  Mail Fraud is a serious crime (none)
    These folks need to be pursued and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I imagine that several other laws have been broken here as well. Get'm on all of them. Cut them no slack. This cannot be allowed to continue. Jail time.

    And for the folks in Sylvania, tell them that Brig. Gen. David White, co-founder of Sylvania, veteran of the War of 1812, son of Revolutionary War veteran David White, wouldn't stand for this manure. He was an upstanding fellow and wouldn't tolerate these sorts of shenanigans for one minute.


    Andrew C. White
    Third Great Grandnephew

    "Do what you can, with what you have, where you are." - Theodore Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 06:23:50 PM PST

  •  nov 4 (none)
    This is right out of the Onion;

    Republicans Urge Minorities To Get Out And Vote On Nov. 3
    MIAMI, FL--With the knowledge that the minority vote will be crucial in the upcoming presidential election, Republican Party officials are urging blacks, Hispanics, and other minorities to make their presence felt at the polls on Wednesday, Nov. 3.

    Someone should let them know the GOP takes them seriously.

    Hmmm... Maybe Cheny really is going to invade the country if not elected.

  •  take a breath before you read this (none)
    now, i think kerry is going to win this one - if the election is fair. if he loses, it will be because of voter fraud. i am as certain as i can be about this considering i'm technically predicting the future...

    but, my question to you is this:
    what happens if kerry loses on election night? can we count on a strong enough dem legal team? can we count on the media to actually talk about voter fraud in a truthful manner? i hate to think about this, but what if it happens?

  •  Special day to vote for the gullible (none)
    Remember?  was it 2000 or 2002 when the Repubs sent out messages telling voters that, due to big crowds at polling places, Republicans should vote on Election Day and Dems the day after?  Am I remembering that correctly?
  •  If anyone can get an message to a public Dem (none)
    Ideally to McAuliffe.

    The Dems should publicly announce that they will be collecting as many of these anonymous flyers as they can.

    They will then be hiring private investigators to fingerprint them all, with the hope of identifying the culprit or at least preserving the evidence should it useful someday.

    Remember, these neofascists are stone cowards. The simple threat of possible exposure will shut many of them down.

  •  Who's up for some paranoia ? (none)
    One day before election the military put into service a system could theoritcally be used to jam any type of sat communications, including radio-tv, internet up-down links, satelite telephones, etc...

    Washington could now, in theory, shut down just about every modern form of world communications at will.. [the same eletromag waves that mute satellites can mute cellphones, radios, local TV broadcast...]

    They could virtually shut us off from the rest of the world if they wanted to.

    Better dig out and dust off the CB radios! Cable TV, DSL and Cable modems would still work, (but not accross the Atlantic)

    The device was put into service considerably earlier than had been projected': February 2004 plans indicated the completion date would be 2010

    Yahoo! News - U.S. Deploys Satellite Jamming System

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Air Force quietly has put into service a new weapon designed to jam enemy satellite communications

    The so-called Counter Communications System was declared operational late last month at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, the Air Force Space Command said on Friday in e-mailed replies to questions from Reuters.

    The ground-based jammer uses electromagnetic radio frequency energy to knock out transmissions on a temporary and reversible basis, without frying components, the command said.

    The device appears to have been put into service considerably earlier than had been projected by the Air Force as recently as February.

    [On February 2004], a long-range planning document... said such a system would let the United States by 2010

    You want the Truth ? You can't handle the Truth ! ~~~~ See my blog here~~~~

    by lawnorder on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 09:28:59 PM PST

  •  Toledo (none)
    Yup, I vouch for the problem in Toledo.  I flew from New Jersey to spend the day calling area Toledo Dems to GOTV and I had to use my cell phone - dirty Republican tricks.

    On the bright side, I would say that at least 70% of the lawn signs, bumper stickers, and buttons around town were Kerry/Edwards.  I spoke to a number of Republicans voting for Kerry and very few Dems voting for Bush.

  •  How about a Constitutional Amendment (none)
    Guaranteeing the right to vote to all citizens.  And let's create a national voter card to be sent to all citizens on their 17th birthday and to be updated easily through the post office and/or DMV.

    Registration should be automatic and voting should be a protected constitutional right.

    "If they don't do their duty by the Democratic Party, they are the most ungrateful people in the world!" -Harry Truman

    by DWCG on Sun Oct 31, 2004 at 11:14:08 PM PST

  •  This is nonsense (3.00)
    How does this sort of fraud happen!

    Where I come from (New Zealand) all voting information comes from an independent body (Electoral Commission) and no one else can publish any information about where and when to vote (especially political parties).

    I know the US presidential election is governed by each state and the Electoral College chooses the President, but this level of corruption is unknown outside the US.

    I know NZ only has 2.5 million voters and is really a single state electorally, but the exposure the level of cronysism prevalent (what's new) in US politics is astounding.

    I think Kerry will win (For God's sake he must!) but wouldn't it be ironic if Kerry were 537 votes ahead in Florida and the Supreme Court (Stephen G. Breyer's condisered dissent aside) reversed their entire 2000 Bush vs Gore argument to give the election to Bush.


  •  You really have to wonder (none)
    what political philosophy those that vote GOP have, it certainly isn't democratic, there are many names that come to mind but democratic isn't one of them.
    GOP supporters you are fascists through and through, congrats!
  •  Regardless who wins ... (none)
    ... a major criminal investigation needs to be launched on Republican dirty tricks during this election cycle. These guys make the Nixon gang look like pikers when it comes to low-down conniving. Send a few hundred to prison, including Rove, and maybe the message will get through that you cannot tamper with the vote -- the most fundamental right of our system.
  •  Ohio Judge bars challenging at polling places. (none)
    This may be old news but check out the link:

    linked text

    "Sane Sane they're all insane; fireman's blind, the conductor's lame." --Tom Waits

    by plato11 on Mon Nov 01, 2004 at 07:33:44 AM PST

  •  See you at the poles... (none)
    ... but is that the North or South pole? Also, I may be late, as I'm sticking around to vote on the 2nd.
  •  Voter Suppression in Iowa (none)
    In Johnson County, absentee ballot counting started today, and Republicans have challenged 4000 absentee ballots.  Johnson county is the most heavily Democratic county in the state, and it typically provides the margin of victory for Democrats statewide.
  •  Las Vegas NV phone/ vote fraud? (none)
    I just received a call from my Mother who flew to Nevada from California to GOTV. She has been hearing from other canvassers who are reporting that someone is calling Democratic voters and telling them that they can vote over the phone. Has anybody else heard about this?
  •  Watch out Minnesota - just found out about this (none)
    One of our precinct volunteers just called in saying an unknown orginization had called him, asked for him by name, and gave him the wrong polling location (all the way across tow).  Apparently, they were Republican enough not to block caller ID, because he called them back and got the BC04 campaign.

    We have a pretty decent history of honoring elections here, but don't let that fool you: they are out to win, no matter how many rules they have to break.

    The answer is November 2nd; Phrase your question carefully

    by nullspace on Mon Nov 01, 2004 at 06:01:17 PM PST

  •  Confirmed registration-suppression in Flagstaff (none)
    A citizen this morning came into the AZ Dems office to report that he had registered with some students in front of a grocery store in late August, and when he requested a vote-by-mail ballot last month, the registrar said he wasn't registered. It's been reported up to the state legal team. He's looking for the receipt.

    R [written Tues AM, connection interrupted, didn't get to submit 'til late]

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